Rae Spoon and Ivan E. Coyote, Lee Henderson
In this episode (originally aired January 12, 2015):
* Donna Bailey Nurse says if you liked Boy, Snow, Bird by Helen Oyeyemi, you'll love Emancipation Day by Wayne Grady
* Lee Henderson on The Road Narrows as You Go
Shelagh's extended conversation with Rae Spoon and Ivan E. Coyote
Rae Spoon was born in Calgary into an evangelical Christian family. Rae felt from childhood that life as a girl wasn't the right fit. A few years earlier growing up in Whitehorse, Ivan Coyote experienced a similar sense of feeling "square peg'ish" about being identified as a girl.
Both Rae and Ivan have experimented with different gender and sexual identities and sometimes the outside world hasn't agreed with their choice.
In their collaborative book Gender Failure, they begin with stories of childhood and describe the transformations each of them has undergone in establishing identities that feel like a better fit than the girl assignment they both received at birth. Both Rae and Ivan describe themselves as people who failed to fit into the gender binary.
Rae is a writer and musician. Ivan is a performer and writer. As well as the book version of Gender Failure, the two collaborated on a touring stage show of the same name.
Shelagh reached Rae Spoon in Montreal and Ivan E. Coyote in Vancouver. We hope you enjoy this extended version of their conversation.