The Next Chapter

Michael Winter, Ursula Franklin

"Underneath these ancient trees are these teenagers who have never seen their old age, their natural life span."-- Michael Winter In this episode, we explore the human complexities of war and peace with novelists Michael Winter and Francis Itani; physicist-feminist-pacifist Ursula Franklin; and former Prime Minister Joe Clark.
From the cover of Into the Blizzard by Michael Winter.

In this episode (originally aired November 10, 2015): 

* Michael Winter on Into the Blizzard: Walking the Fields of the Newfoundland Dead
* Frances Itani on Tell
* Ursula Franklin on Ursula Franklin Speaks
* Joe Clark on Engaging China by Paul Evans


Shelagh's extended conversation with Michael Winter:

(Stephen Crocker)
This year marks the hundredth anniversary of the First World War.  All year there have been centennial ceremonies and gatherings, and more to come, with people around the world remembering and looking back. Michael Winter's new book also looks back at World War One. It's called Into the Blizzard: Walking the Fields of the Newfoundland Dead.

Into the Blizzard describes the physical and psychic journey Michael took when he followed the path taken by the Royal Newfoundland Regiment one hundred years ago.  He juxtaposes his journey with that of the young soldiers who came from city, town, and outport to the battlefields of Europe.  It's part memoir and part meditation on how we remember.

Michael Winter has won the Writers' Trust Notable Author Award and his work has been longlisted for the Scotiaband Giller Prize, the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, the Writer's Trust Fiction Prize, and the Commonwealth Writers' Prize.

Michael is from Newfoundland, and divides his time between St. John's and Toronto.

We hope you enjoy this extended version of his conversation with Shelagh about Into the Blizzard.

​Shelagh's extended interview with Dr. Ursula Franklin

​The news anchor Tom Brokaw coined the term "the greatest generation" to describe the Americans who grew up during the Depression and sustained the ravages of the Second World War. Shelagh thought of that description after she read a book of speeches by the acclaimed scientist, pacifist, and feminist Ursula Franklin.

Ursula Franklin isn't an American but she is a member of that great generation of people shaped personally by the War - very personally in her case.  

She was born in Germany and spent the war in a forced labour camp. Her parents were both in concentration camps.. Miraculously, all three survived and came to Canada. 

Ursula Franklin has spent her life in this country devoted, as she says, to "being useful". She's put her intelligence, discernment, and humanity to many uses. She's a physicist who has made important discoveries and advancements in science, a Quaker who has advocated tirelessly in the service of peace, and a ground breaking feminist.  
Ursula Franklin Speaks is a collection of speeches and interviews from 1986 to 2012. She collaborated on it with her friend and University of Toronto colleague Sarah Jane Freeman. 

We hope you enjoy this extended version of Shelagh's conversation with Dr. Ursula Franklin.


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