Tapestry

Being the Change Part 1

Ijeoma Oluo talks to host Mary Hynes about race — namely, how hard and needed those conversations are. Oluo, author of So You Want to Talk About Race, discusses where these conversations go wrong.
Protestors demonstrate outside a Starbucks on April 15, 2018 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Police arrested two black men who were waiting inside the Center City Starbucks which prompted an apology from the company's CEO. (Mark Makela/Getty Images)
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(Originally published in April 2018)

Ijeoma Oluo talks to host Mary Hynes about race — namely, how hard and needed those conversations are. Oluo, author of So You Want to Talk About Race, discusses where these conversations go wrong and what we have to acknowledge going into them.

Later Andrea Chiu explains how Oluo's book helped her talk to her wife about race, and how having an ally brought them closer together.  

 

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