Tapes reveal Trump never told Georgia officials to 'find the fraud' but did press them to investigate
On phone call about Nov. 3 election, Trump said, 'When the right answer comes out, you'll be praised'
CBC News first published this Associated Press report on Jan. 9, 2021. It was updated by the AP on March 15, 2021, to correct that The Associated Press, based on information provided by a source, erroneously reported that Trump pressed the investigator to "find the fraud" and said it would make the investigator a national hero. A recording of the call made public two months later revealed that Trump did not say either and instead said that if the investigator looked into Fulton County the investigator would "find things that are gonna be unbelievable." Trump also told the investigator: "When the right answer comes out, you'll be praised."
The original story is here. The corrected Jan. 9 story follows below.
While election officials in Georgia were verifying signatures on absentee ballot envelopes in one metro-Atlanta county in late 2020, President Donald Trump pressed a lead investigator to look at a different county, saying the investigator would "find things that are gonna be unbelievable."
Trump also told the investigator: "When the right answer comes out, you'll be praised."
The December phone call, described by a person familiar with it who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to describe the sensitive nature of the discussion, is yet another link in the chain of the extraordinary pressure campaign waged by Trump on state officials as he sought to overturn the results of the November election, which he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
3 calls held over a month
It is one of at least three phone calls, held over the course of a month between early December and early January, where Trump sought help from high-level Georgia officials in subverting the election — only to be rebuffed each time. Trump lost to Biden in Georgia by 11,779 votes.
The call to the investigator preceded Trump's Jan. 2 call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in which he asked election officials to "find" enough votes to overturn Biden's win in the state. It occurred as election officials were conducting an audit of signatures on absentee ballot envelopes in Cobb County. Trump pressed the investigator to look into Fulton County, a Democratic stronghold that contains most of Atlanta.
The audit, which reviewed more than 15,000 signatures, found no cases of fraud. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation helped conduct the signature audit.
Trump and his allies have for months made false claims about Georgia's signature verification process for absentee ballots and about the results of the November election. Among other things, they demanded an audit of the signature matches.
The White House had no immediate comment. The call was first reported on Saturday by the Washington Post, which said it was withholding the name of the investigator, who did not respond to requests for comment, because of the risk of threats and harassment directed at election officials.
Various election officials across the country and Trump's former attorney general, William Barr, have said there was no widespread fraud in the election. Raffensperger and other officials in Georgia have repeatedly disputed Trump's false claims about the election and said it was conducted freely and fairly.
Congress certified Biden's electoral college win early Thursday — hours after a violent throng of pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol.
During another call in early December, Trump pressed Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp to order a special session of the state legislature to subvert Biden's victory. Kemp refused.
Trump repeatedly lashed out at Raffensperger and Kemp, both fellow Republicans, and others he saw as standing in his way of overturning his election loss.
In last week's call with Raffensperger, Trump urged the secretary of state to change the certified results.
"All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have," Trump said. "Because we won the state."
Raffensperger said in response: "President Trump, we've had several lawsuits, and we've had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. We don't agree that you have won."
Legal experts said the call raised questions about possible election law violations by Trump, and several Democrats in the state have called for an investigation to be opened.