Obama talks about Israel, Syria and Trump in his final interview as president
U.S. president defends controversial foreign policies, warns people not to underestimate the president-elect
In his final interview as U.S. president, Barack Obama touched on his sometimes controversial approaches to foreign policy in Israel, Russia and Syria, and the "unusual" transition between his administration and that of president-elect Donald Trump.
Speaking to CBS' 60 Minutes, the outgoing president reflected on his legacy and his biggest challenges during his eight years in office during the hour-long interview.
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A number of Obama's policies — from health care to his contentious relationship with Israel — could be short-lived as president-elect Donald Trump becomes the 45th president later this week and vows to reverse some of those policies.
Soured relations with Israel
The increase of Israeli settlements has "gotten so substantial" that it is inhibiting the possibility of an "effective, contiguous Palestinian state," Obama said.
He dismissed the idea that there is a "major rupture" in the relationship between the United States and Israel after last month's decision by the U.S. to abstain from a United Nations vote condemning Israeli settlements.
"Because of our investment in the region, and because we care so deeply about Israel, I think [the U.S.] has a legitimate interest in saying to a friend, 'This is a problem,"' Obama said. "It would have long-term consequences for peace and security in the region, and the United States."
Don't 'underestimate' Trump
Trump has been vocal about his disapproval of many of Obama's policies, often voicing his disagreement on Twitter. Most recently, Trump lashed out over hypothetical comments Obama made that he would beat Trump if they ran against each other in a general election.
Over the holidays, Trump accused Obama of throwing up "inflammatory" roadblocks during the transition of power and his administration of treating Israel with "total disdain."
Doing my best to disregard the many inflammatory President O statements and roadblocks.Thought it was going to be a smooth transition - NOT!—@realDonaldTrump
Obama acknowledged it's been an "unusual" transition, adding, "I suspect the president-elect would agree with that."
He warned people not to "underestimate the guy" and urged congressional Republicans and Trump supporters around the country to be sure "that as we go forward, certain norms, certain institutional traditions don't get eroded, because there's a reason they're in place."
Obama said there needs to be a focus on "making sure that our democracy stays healthy, and making sure that we maintain that sense of solidarity."
"We are moving into an era where a lot of people get their information through tweets and soundbites and some headline that comes over their phone," the president said. "There's a power in that. There's also a danger — what generates a headline or stirs up a controversy and gets attention isn't the same as the process required to actually solve the problem."
Russia and the Syrian civil war
With that, he said he's been "disturbed" by intelligence reports about Russia hacking the U.S. election.
"I have been concerned about the degree to which, in some circles, you've seen people suggest that Vladimir Putin has more credibility than the U.S. government," he said. "You're not going to be able to make good decisions without building some relationship of trust between yourself and that community."
Obama also reflected on his approach to the civil war in Syria, as it approaches its sixth year with hundreds of thousands dead and millions displaced around the world.
The president acknowledged that his "red line" declaration about the use of chemical weapons by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government wasn't in his 2012 speech and that he didn't have to use those words. They later prompted harsh criticism, since the U.S. did not follow through on the threat.
"I would have, I think, made a bigger mistake if I had said, 'Eh, chemical weapons. That doesn't really change my calculus,"' he said. "And regardless of how it ended up playing, I think, in the Beltway, what is true is Assad got rid of his chemical weapons."
Wih files from CBC News