Michael Duheme named interim RCMP commissioner

The federal government has announced Michael Duheme will lead the RCMP in the interim as they hunt for a permanent leader.

Former employees warn structural and cultural issues remain for next RCMP leader

New interim RCMP Commissioner faces challenges

3 months ago
Duration 1:46
Michael Duheme is selected as interim RCMP Commissioner as Brenda Lucki winds down her controversial tenure. The change comes as the force faces enormous challenges around police culture.

The federal government has announced Michael Duheme will lead the RCMP in the interim as they hunt for a permanent leader.

Duheme serves as deputy commissioner of federal policing and will take the helm tomorrow after RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki's retirement.

"I have every confidence that his extensive experience in policing across the country and around the world has prepared him well to lead our national police force," said Public Safety Marco Mendicino in a statement.

Duheme, originally from Chambly, Que., started his career as a general duty investigator in Nova Scotia and has served stints as an officer with RCMP's Emergency Response Team, a member of the Kosovo peacekeeping mission, a VIP personal protection officer, the first director of the Parliamentary Protective Service and commanding officer of National Division in Ottawa.

As the head of the RCMP's federal policing wing, he's had his hand in some of the country's most sensitive files.

Duheme has made recent appearances in the public spotlight, accompanying Lucki to the Emergencies Act inquiry last fall and last month gave an update to MPs probing allegations of foreign interference.

WATCH | RCMP announces new interim RCMP commissioner Michael Duheme 

RCMP announces new interim RCMP commissioner Michael Duheme

3 months ago
Duration 1:45
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the search for a permanent commissioner continues and adds the government will choose someone who, in light of recent police tragedies, 'will keep the men and women who protect Canadians safe themselves.'

While Lucki's time in the post saw her navigate some profound challenges, some former RCMP employees say a lot of those challenges will still be around when the 25th commissioner eventually takes office.

"They are doomed," said Eli Sopow, a former civilian member who served for 20 years on research and analysis teams.

"It doesn't matter who you put in, because the structure is all broken. It's like one of those Escher drawings where you see stairways going all over the place ... That's the RCMP."

Lucki was the RCMP's first permanent female commissioner. She followed in the footsteps of Bev Busson, now a senator, who served as interim commissioner.

When she was appointed in 2018, Lucki was tasked with modernizing a police force in the grips of a sexual assault and harassment scandal.

"She was given an impossible task," said Karen Adams, one of the first women to don the red serge after the force allowed women to serve back in 1974.

The RCMP was forced to compensate more than 2,300 women who experienced sexual harassment or abuse — including instances of rape — and discrimination based on gender or sexual orientation while serving in the RCMP. In all, $125,266,500 was paid to claimants and their lawyers.

Adams was one of those claimants.

She said she had no idea what she was getting into when, at age 22, she joined the first graduating troop of women.

"I was interested in helping people," she said.

"I was so naive … I don't think any of us were prepared for what was coming our way, to be honest."

RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki during a Change of Command ceremony in Langley, British Columbia on Tuesday, September 20, 2022.
RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki takes part in a change of command ceremony in Langley, B.C. on September 20, 2022. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

Adams, who has written a book about her time in the force, has said she was raped by her supervisor. She said she was too afraid to report it and instead suppressed the experience, which left her to suffer from PTSD.

Adams would go on to have a 28-year career in the RCMP. She worked alongside Lucki when they were both corporals 

"The biggest issues in the force [have] been cultural issues. And culture is very hard to change," she said.

"And Brenda, and any commissioner that follows, is going to have a huge, huge problem attempting to change the culture."

Lauren Bernardi, a lawyer and workplace investigator, said police culture in general has been prone to workplace harassment. 

RCMP officers have to respond to traumatic events and often live in isolated areas, she said, which can lead them to believe that the only way to be a police officer is to be tough and strong at all times.

"Transforming any culture is hard, because you're talking about behavioural change for individuals," Bernardi said. 

"When you think about the RCMP, how big they are, how dispersed people are, it makes it that much more of a challenge."

Bernardi said she has seen some signs that the RCMP is moving in the right direction — like the establishment of the Independent Centre for Harassment Resolution, which has outside investigators review allegations of sexual harassment or abuse in the ranks.

"I think it is a massive undertaking and maybe we don't always appreciate how hard that is," she said.

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3 months ago
Duration 20:49
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Sopow, now an associate professor at University Canada West, said Lucki's successor will have to grapple with structural issues, duelling mandates and a confusing command structure.

The force has contracts with most provinces and about 150 municipalities to provide frontline policing. It's also in charge of federal policing, including investigations of foreign interference, cybercrime and organized crime.

Sopow said he doesn't understand why the head of a police force — even a national one — reports to the federal public safety minister.

"The RCMP is a police service. Its culture is unlike anything else. It is not the agricultural department," he said.

"Where the RCMP has consistently found a real problem is, how do you lead and manage an organization that has to be credibly responsive to public safety ... with [this] uber-bureaucratic structure? Well, it can't."

Karen Adams was one of the first women to don the red serge after the force allowed women to serve back in 1974.
Karen Adams was one of the first women to don the red serge after the force allowed women to serve back in 1974. (Submitted by Karen Adams)

The RCMP's relationship with the federal government has plagued Lucki throughout her time as commissioner. She was accused of meddling in the RCMP's investigation of the 2020 Nova Scotia mass shooting by pressing investigators — on the federal government's behalf — to make public details about the weapons used by the gunman.

Both Lucki and Emergency Preparedness Minister Bill Blair have denied interfering with the RCMP's investigation.

During her testimony before the Emergencies Act inquiry — one of her last major public appearances as commissioner — Lucki said it's time to bring in better guardrails between the national police force and the federal government to avoid future allegations of political interference.

She was also criticized over her response to allegations of systemic racism in the force and to the families of the victims of the 2020 mass shooting.

WATCH | Trudeau says Otawa will take 'diversity' and 'Indigenous representation' into account for next commissioner

Government will take 'diversity' and 'Indigenous representation' into account in choosing a new RCMP commissioner: Trudeau

3 months ago
Duration 1:36
Asked about Brenda Lucki's replacement, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says an independent process is taking place and will ensure that the final choice represents the 'fullness of Canada.'

Mendicino's office said more details will be made public about the hunt for the next commissioner soon.

"We will be searching for an exceptional new leader who will keep our communities safe, while advancing the reforms necessary to maintain the confidence of all Canadians. We look forward to sharing more details about the process in the near future," said his office.

"We will search out somebody who reflects the best values and capabilities and skills and who is committed to continuing to reform this institution," Mendicino said last month.

A 'ship that's sinking'

Sopow said that while he doesn't believe Lucki was the best choice back in 2018, some of the problems she faced in the job were bigger than her and still need addressing.

"God bless her heart. You could put anybody in there you want and it won't work. It simply won't work," he said.

"How can you put somebody as captain of a ship that's sinking without any radar, any devices, anything to give a direction of where it's going?"

Adams said she believes that if the next commissioner wants to make changes, they'll need to start at the RCMP's training depot — "the cradle of the force."

"It all begins there. It's that sense of, 'Do as you're told, don't question, learn to not speak up,'" Adams said.

During her time as commissioner, Lucki did act to modernize the depot's screening tools to make the RCMP more diverse and avoid recruiting people with racist beliefs.

"I hope they can work things out so it becomes a safer place," Adams said of the next commissioner.

RCMP members are pictured wearing their red serge uniforms during a Change of Command ceremony in Langley, British Columbia on Tuesday, September 20, 2022.
RCMP members are pictured wearing their red serge uniforms during a Change of Command ceremony in Langley, British Columbia on Tuesday, September 20, 2022. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

"For women, for people of colour, for First Nations people. I just hope it becomes much more inclusive than it has been over the last 150 years."

Nearly 50 years after women were first allowed to join the force, Adams said she still hopes women can see the RCMP as a worthy career path. But it's not something she would have recommended to her children.

"I'm glad my own daughters didn't pursue that career."


Catharine Tunney is a reporter with CBC's Parliament Hill bureau, where she covers national security and the RCMP. She worked previously for CBC in Nova Scotia. You can reach her at catharine.tunney@cbc.ca

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