'Have you ever been to a daycare?': 6 key moments from Ontario leaders' debate

Not much was off limits as Ontario's three major party leaders sparred on stage for the final time before election day. They covered everything from Hydro One to Adolf Hitler.

Doug Ford, Andrea Horwath, Kathleen Wynne sparred over hydro, health and Adolf Hitler

Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne, left, shakes hands with NDP Leader Andrea Horwath, right, behind Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford following the end of the third and final televised debate of the provincial election. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

To get a sense at just how wide-ranging this debate was, at one point the leaders were talking about memes of Adolf Hitler. Not much was off limits as Ontario's three major party leaders sparred on stage for the final time before election day. 

PC Leader Doug Ford, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath and Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne talked hydro, health care, climate change and voter trust, taking shots at each other and blasting their differing visions for the province.

It was sharp, testy and at times, downright divisive. Here were some of the night's highlights.

'Sorry, not sorry'

Wynne: "Sorry, not sorry"

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Liberal leader Kathleen Wynne opens debate with saying, "Sorry, not sorry," about the last five years. 0:50

Wynne made the quip right off the top in the opening statements, acknowledging that people don't like her but touting her accomplishments in education, childcare and minimum wage. 

It may have seemed unexpected but it coincided with a new Liberal ad of the same name, released during the debate. 

According to Twitter, #sorrynotsorry was also one of the most tweeted hashtags during the evening — and Wynne the most mentioned leader.

'You want people to believe that we sold Niagara Falls'

Horwath challenges Wynne on Hydro One sales

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Kathleen Wynne gets fired up after Andrea Horwath challenges her on Hydro One sales. 1:31

In one of Wynne's most impassioned moments, she had to fend off Horwath's suggestion that the Liberals have little to show after selling off a portion of Hydro One.

"You want people to believe that we sold Niagara Falls and we did not," said Wynne. "Every dollar ... is going to infrastructure."

'God forbid the NDP'

Ford: “What would happen to my job God forbid the NDP ever got in?"

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PC leader Doug Ford criticizes the NDP on jobs. 0:39

There was loads of fear-mongering about a potential NDP government — with worries raised by both Wynne and Ford. Ford invoked former Ontario NDP premier Bob Rae's name and kept repeating that things would get "10 times worse" under an NDP government.

Horwath defended herself, stating this was "not 1990" and she was "not Bob Rae." The tables turned when Wynne asked Ford what would happen to schools, hospitals and services under a Ford government.

'You have to listen to them'

Horwath to Wynne: "You have to listen to them"

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PC leader Doug Ford talks about getting input from frontline healthcare workers, but Liberal leader Kathleen Wynne fires back and NDP leader Andrea Horwath responds. 0:42

One of Ford's routine rambles about health care and growing the economy was sidetracked when Wynne called Ford out on not having a fully costed platform, with just 11 days left until the election.

"You could have had those conversations then you could have had a platform written," she said. "You talk to the people in the field, you understand what they are going through."

But it was Horwath who got the final word in, explaining that it's about more than just talking. "You have to listen to them," she said.

'Your plan will not work'

Wynne to Horwath: "We share a lot of the same values"

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Liberal leader Kathleen Wynne tells NDP leader Andrea Horwath the two parties share values, but that the NDP's plan will not work. 0:43

According to poll tracker, the NDP are (just barely) the front-runners, thanks to a recent surge in support. So it's no surprise that Horwath was the prime target for a good portion of the debate.

A significant attack came from Wynne who pointed out her similarities with the NDP but deadpanned "your plan won't work." Horwath fought back, attacking Wynne's record and accusing her of not paying attention to the struggles of "everyday folks."

'Have you been to a daycare?'

Wynne to Ford: "Have you ever been to a daycare?"

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Liberal leader Kathleen Wynne asks PC leader Doug Ford if he's ever been to a daycare. 0:21

There were a few light moments sprinkled throughout. When Ford talked about the government and daycares shutting "down at 4:30", Wynne called him out, asking if he had ever been to a daycare.

The audience laughed but Ford didn't crack a smile. He jabbed back: "I'm planning [on] going down to Queen's Park."


Haydn Watters is a roving reporter for Ontario, primarily serving the province's local radio shows. He has worked for CBC News and CBC Radio in Halifax, Yellowknife, Ottawa and Toronto, with stints at the politics bureau and the entertainment unit. He also ran an experimental one-person pop-up bureau for the CBC in Barrie, Ont.


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