Severe rusting of ill-fated Elliot Lake mall didn't alarm engineer

An engineer had long known about severe rusting of steel beams at Elliot Lake's Algo Centre mall when he signed off on a report declaring the structure to be sound, less than two months before it collapsed, a judicial inquiry heard Thursday.

Robert Wood, Gregory Saunders declared Elliot Lake's Algo Centre Mall roof structurally sound

An engineer had long known about severe rusting of steel beams at Elliot Lake's Algo Centre mall when he signed off on a report declaring the structure to be sound, less than two months before it collapsed, a judicial inquiry heard Thursday.

Testifying at the probe into last year's fatal collapse, Gregory Saunders said he signed off on an inspection report prepared by his partner and fellow engineer, Robert (Bob) Wood, on May 3, 2012.

"We would consider the members still structurally sound," the report stated. "It is our opinion that the observed rusting at this time has not detrimentally changed the load-carrying capacities of the structure, and no visual signs of structural distress were observed."

Seven weeks later, on June 23, 2012, part of the roof-top parking garage at the Algo Centre Mall caved in. Two women were killed and several other people were hurt.

The judicial inquiry under commissioner Paul Belanger has already heard how the steel support structure — corroded by years of water and salt penetration — finally gave way.

Told it was 'surface rust'

Saunders said he had forgotten signing several reports dating as far back as May 2005 that clearly noted leaks and severe rusting when he reviewed the final inspection document.

He admitted taking no action on the earlier reports, but could not explain why they failed to raise any red flags.

"It's hard to fathom as an engineer that an owner would go through and let leakage last so long," Saunders said.

Wood made no mention of the long-standing leakage, or of a 2009 city order for an extensive inspection of the mall, when he presented the final report, Saunders said.

The two men discussed the inspection, which was required for a mortgage, for about 45 minutes.

Wood told Saunders the maintenance man had walked him around the shopping centre.

"Apparently he checked the worst spots, as far as I know," Saunders said. "We went over the degree of rust. Bob told me it was surface rust."

"Basically, you're taking his word for all of this?" asked commission lawyer Bruce Carr-Harris.

 "Yes," Saunders replied.

 Asked if it would have made any difference if Wood had brought the long-standing issues about leakage and rust to his attention, Saunders was non-commital.

"It may have been helpful," he said.

'Made some mistakes'

The inquiry also heard how Saunders and Wood, who were partners in M.R. Wright based out of Sault Ste. Marie, Ont., were both found guilty of professional misconduct in 2010 for their work on an unrelated bridge project.

"I made some mistakes in signing off on the drawings," Saunders conceded.

Wood ended up losing his licence after failing to write remedial exams, but Saunders successfully completed his exam work.

It was reported earlier that Saunders lost his engineering licence in relation to the mall's collapse. During testimony at the inquiry Thursday, he said he is a certified professional engineer.

The public inquiry looking at the cause of the roof collapse has been underway in Elliot Lake since March.

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The inquiry was established in July 2012 by the Ontario government to report on events surrounding the mall roof's collapse, and the deaths of Lucie Aylwin and Doloris Perizzolo, as well as the injuries to others and the emergency management and response.

The hearings are expected to conclude with testimony from former premier Dalton McGuinty on Sept. 12.

Elliot Lake inquiry schedule

Witness Name

Dates  (subject to change)


Gregory Saunders, engineer, M.R. Wright

June 6

Robert Wood, M.R. Wright

June 6 and 7 (and 10 if necessary)

Ron McCowan, McCowan and Associates, considered purchase of mall

June 10

Rhonda Lendt (Bear), former mall manager, Eastwood Mall

June 11

Rob DeBortoli, City of Elliot Lake CEO

June 12

Judy McCulloch, manager, customer service, Scotiabank 

June 13

Jaime Hass, certified engineering technologist, Pinchin

June 14

Ed Hudson, former inspector, Ministry of Labour

June 14

Rick Hamilton, mayor, City of Elliot Lake

July 8

Antoine-René Fabris, lawyer, retained by Eastwood Mall Inc.

July 9

Lesley Sprague, clerk, City of Elliot Lake

July 10

Dale Craig, expert, engineer, J.L. Richards

July 10

Roger Jeffries, engineer, Ministry of Labour

July 11

Levon Nazarian, leasing manager and real estate adviser, Eastwood Mall

Starting July 12 and continuing the week of July 15

Robert Nazarian, owner, Eastwood Mall

Week of July 15



  • This story was changed from a previously published version to correct an error. It was previously reported by CBC that Gregory Saunders lost his engineering license in relation to the mall's collapse. This was reported in error. Professional Engineers Ontario confirms Gregory Saunders is a member in good standing. CBC regrets the error.
    Sep 12, 2013 4:26 AM ET

With files from The Canadian Press