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3 companies competing to replace Phoenix named

Ceridian, SAP and Workday will vie to build new public service pay system in a procurement that's moving at "warp speed," according to a member of the team that's leading the process.

Ceridian, SAP, Workday will vie to build new public service pay system

Steve MacKinnon, parliamentary secretary to the minister of PSPC, Treasury Board president, Joyce Murray, Hull-Aylmer MP Greg Fergus, and PIPSC president Debi Daviau speak at a news conference about the next phase of a new federal pay and HR system. (Julie Ireton, CBC )

The federal government has named the three companies that will compete to replace the failed Phoenix pay system.

Since its introduction in 2016, Phoenix has caused serious problems for thousands of public servants across Canada who have been improperly paid.

Last year, the government announced its plan to eventually scrap the multi-million dollar pay system, but only once a new and much improved technology is in place.

On Wednesday, the government announced Ceridian, SAP and Workday will compete to provide that replacement. All three companies were on a short list of five vendors released last year.

Ceridian is a Toronto-based pay systems specialist with offices across Canada, including Ottawa. German multinational SAP creates software to manage business operations that's already widely used in government. Workday, which delivers cloud applications, is headquartered in California but has offices in Canada and around the world.

Jacquie Manchevsky and Vernon von Finckenstein are part of the Treasury Board team working to replace the Phoenix pay system. (Julie Ireton/CBC )

A flexible process

The team at Treasury Board tasked with finding the replacement said naming three finalists will give the government the flexibility it needs in case there's a need to pivot to a different solution along the way.

We went to a raft of public servants to ask, 'What do you need?'- Jacquie Manchevsky, TBS

While only one of the companies will eventually be given the task of designing and implementing the new system, the other two firms might still be brought in to provide certain components, depending on the evolving needs of the hundreds of federal departments.

The next stage will be developing a pilot project and figuring out how the new pay program can run at the same time as Phoenix until the old system can be phased out.

In contrast to Phoenix, which was built on a one-size-fits-all software program that has to be constantly modified, Treasury Board officials said the new system will be customizable, flexible and "evergreen," meaning it will be able to change as technology and the needs of the government and its employees change.

Money runs out next year

Treasury Board Secretariat (TBS) was given $16 million over two years to figure out what kind of system to build and who should build it. That money runs out in March 2020.

Treasury Board president Joyce Murray told reporters Wednesday that she understands a new pay system can't come fast enough for public servants.

"We're absolutely committed to investing what is required to do this project properly. This can only be done with extensive user testing, full pilot projects, proper training and full examination of government's HR processes. We're committed to doing this work and doing it well."

The team leading this project says it's been a transparent procurement process that has involved public servants and their unions.

"We went to a raft of public servants to ask, 'What do you need?" said Jacquie Manchevsky, the corporate secretary for the project at TBS.

The team set up booths in lobbies of federal buildings across the country, where they used iPads to test different ideas with public servants.

Union participation

Manchevsky says unions have been extremely supportive and have also participated in the evaluation and design process.

She said compared to traditional government procurement processes, this one has moved ahead at "warp speed" and has been embraced by the industry players they're working with.

Unlike during the development of Phoenix, the government's own IT staff have a role to play this time, according to Debi Daviau, president of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada (PIPSC).

"We're now involved as a union and our members' expertise is being sought," Daviau said. "I can look at a member and say, 'There's a light at the end of the tunnel.'"

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