Warren Buffett, Jamie Dimon urge end to quarterly profit forecasts
High-profile business leaders pen article on why they think quarterly profit forecasts are hurting the economy
Investor Warren Buffett and JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon are encouraging public companies to stop predicting their quarterly earnings and focus on long-term goals.
The two executives said on CNBC Thursday that companies that focus on hitting their quarterly numbers may do things that hurt them in the future, such as delaying investments or changing when certain gains are recorded.
"When companies get where they're sort of living by so-called 'making the numbers,' they do a lot of things that really are counter to the long-term interests of the business," Buffett said.
Dimon, who also leads the Business Roundtable group, and Buffett co-wrote an article about why they think quarterly profit forecasts are hurting the economy.
Dimon said companies might forego investments they should make in their business, such as marketing, hiring or research, in order to hit short-term goals. Dimon said he could generate hundreds of millions of revenue for the bank by agreeing to some interest rate swaps.
"It can put a company in a position where management from the CEO down feels obligated to deliver earnings, and therefore may do things that they wouldn't otherwise have done," Dimon said.
Buffett has never provided profit forecasts and doesn't even have an investor relations department at his Berkshire Hathaway conglomerate. In the past, Buffett has said that he could record some of Berkshire's unrealized investment gains at almost any time if he wanted to make a quarter or year look good, but that wouldn't help the company succeed in the long run.
"I've never seen a company whose performance has improved by having some forecast out there by the CEO that we're going to earn X," Buffett said.
Both men said they still want companies to release detailed quarterly and annual financial data, so investors can evaluate them.
"Whenever those two heavyweights speak, the market has to absolutely listen," said Barry Schwartz, the chief investment officer at Baskin Wealth Management.
"It's so silly that CEOs and their CFOs give quarterly forecasts and guidance," Schwartz said. "Investing, especially in stocks, is long term...To give forecasts quarterly is short-termism."
Business Roundtable said it supports companies moving away from offering quarterly guidance and focusing on long-term goals. The group said public companies should be managed for long-term prosperity, not to meet the latest forecast.
Berkshire Hathaway is also working with JP Morgan and Amazon to find ways to reduce health care costs for the three companies. Buffett and Dimon said Thursday that a CEO has been hired to lead that effort, and the companies expect to announce that choice within the next couple weeks.
There has been great interest in these companies' health initiative since it was announced early this year, but few details have been released so far.
with files from CBC News' Meegan Read