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Cure or Con?

Erica Johnson investigates one of the country's fastest growing alternative health treatments: homeopathy. Ontario homeopaths are about to become the first province in Canada to regulate homeopathy — lending credibility to this unproven practice.

Canada's leading consumer ally takes a long hard look at the theories, and the remedies. For the first time in Canada, we conduct a test of homeopathic medicines, investigating the science behind these so-called medicines. In light of our results, we ask both the Ontario government and Health Canada why they are lending credibility to the homeopathic industry. Johnson also meets up with a rep from the world's leading manufacturer of homeopathic medicines, who admits that even the company says how homeopathty works is a mystery.

Watch, as we witness a Vancouver group of skeptics taking part in a group overdose of homeopathic remedies. Perhaps most disturbing we learn that some homeopaths are treating cancer patients with homeopathic remedies. A leading cancer specialist says there is no role for homeopathy in the treatment of cancer, that it is a "scam that is not evidence-based."

There has been an unusual amount of interest in our story on homeopathy, "Cure or Con?". In one case there was a complaint to the CBC Ombudsman, Kirk LaPointe. He has now ruled on that complaint, and you can find his report at The Office of the Ombudsman website. [PDF 350kb]

Recent 50 Comments

Too bad the producers of Marketplace couldn't bother to recruit some qualified experts to argue both sides of the issue. Really, a group of yahoos on the sidewalk swallowing a whole bottle of a remedy 'proves' that it doesn't work?
You all just got schooled by Wylde on Health on CP24. The host acknowledged his bias & they had qualified experts to present their cases. That's how your 'investigative journalism' should have been performed. Nice try. I'm certainly going to have a hard time taking Marketplace seriously again. I guess I just freed up some time in my week. Thanks!

Shame on CBC for airing this show. You say you were investigating? I didn't see any true investigating or open mindedness in this program. You went in thinking it was a 'con' and that's all you looked for. I don't mind looking at opposing views of an issue and hearing both sides and then making my mind up, but from what I saw there was only one, very biased view point presented, and that's not investigative journalism to me.

I used to view Marketplace as a useful and informative program until this show. ie. because conventional science cannot measure homeopathic medicine ... its must be a scam ??? Where was the information on "how" homeopathic medicine works. I say works because I have OFTEN gone through conventional medicine because of limited financial resources .... at great cost to our health care system and not resolve my problem. I have then went to a homeopathic practitioner with very quick results and paid a fraction of the cost. No exaggeration - a fraction of the cost.

Sadly, this was a poor example of "investigative" journalism and within a few seconds I could tell how off kilter this was going to be. CBC/Marketplace portrayed a complete lack of respect and understanding of a time honored system of medical treatment used around the world. You have only showed us your ignorance, especially with the "scientific" method you chose to show our nation how a proving works! Shame on you.

However, the issue is not whether homeopathy works or not (it does), or whether you can dissect it under a microscope. An energy medicine is one of many things in life and in science that cannot be fully explained, but that does not mean it does not exist. I would be more concerned about how qualified an MD is to prescribe homeopathic medication and what they would prescribe it for? It may be one thing to take a short course to know how to prescribe treatment for a cold or flu, but quite another to treat a person's entire constitution.

The homeopathic physicians I have been fortunate enough to encounter have made it their life's work and have had years of study and training.

My favorite comment so far was this: "As a retired nuclear reactor physicist I am very aware that only a small percentage of reality has been uncovered by "scientific" scrutiny." Followed by a personal experience with homeopathy.

Much was made of the fact that no molecular trace of the active ingredient remains in a homeopathic remedy. It cannot be measured with our existing instruments, therefor it cannot lay claim to reality.

Proponents of homeopathy will retort that it works through mysterious forces which we don't yet know how to perceive or measure. The fact that we don't quite know HOW something works should not keep us from continuing to observe, experiment, and use, if no harm is done in the process.
In a similar vein, microbes were causing disease long before humanity developed the instruments to see them. Some smart folks noticed that greater cleanliness seemed to foster a lower death rate. They were ridiculed and hounded. Ignaz Semmelweisz is the best known example.

Anecdotal evidence is indeed not scientific proof. However, if it keeps piling up it should at least suggest that a serious look is warranted.

I too was very disappointed in your 'expose' of homeopathy. The bias of the feature was clear from the beginning. When my son was 3 years old he was diagnosed with severe asthma. No western doctor (and we saw several) could offer any insight into why he may have gotten asthma, what his triggers were or how it could be cured. (Puffers suppress symptoms but do not cure asthma). We started seeing a homeopath and within a few treatments he was fully cured of asthma. He is now 19, has no asthmatic symptoms whatsoever, has a very robust immune system, is never ill even with the common cold, and is more energetic and healthier than this peers. There is no way he could have talked himself into a cure at age 3. Since then our whole family - 3 generations - has benefited greatly from homeopathy for a variety of ailments. It is 'health care' that those of us who see homeopaths are engaged in, not the 'symptom suppression' and 'illness treatment' that western medicine offers.

In reply to a comment from Gary

Unfortunately the CBC did treat it as a big joke instead of doing a serious show investigating homeopathy treatments. If they say they are going to investigate something do that instead of going in with a preconceived notion and then setting out to have a bit of fun mocking, smirking and rewording what people have said to suit the story line they already have in mind. I felt like I was watching the kind of great investigative journalism I might find on entertainment tonight
Poor, biased reporting by CBC. I expected more and that wouldn't be asking much in this case.

In reply to a comment from Penny Williams

I agree with you .... I'll never bother to watch
' Marketplace ' again after this bias so-called reporting. They've lost any credibility for me.

In reply to a comment from Elspeth

Right on Elspeth. Most people go for assistance when whatever they are suffering from-flu or cold-is at it's worse so no matter what they take -even nothing- they are likely to then start feeling better as the normal course of recovery starts.

In reply to a comment from Theresa

I am appalled at this program you went in onesided why didn't you talk to people who tried it. I have a GP but my primary healthcare profreeional is Naturopathic. I am one who will always look for naturopathic remedies. After 25 years of migraines with no relief from medical healthcare. A neurosurgeon told me there was nothing else he can do for me as no medication prescribed helped me. All I got out of prescribed medication is kidney problems. Within a very short time of being under a Naturopaths care I was down to very few migraines I had headaches that lasted weeks at a times now the longest headache is a day. So talk to people who try it. You only got one side of the story.

Just because "science" can't figure it out or explain it, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Science here was measuring chemicals not energy. People, this is all about energy. Something pharmaceuticals don't deal with or apply. The reason it is gaining popularity is because it works. Ask me, my family and I have been using homeopathy for over 20 years - no side effects, but effective treatments that have helped us. The only way to know is to try. No fears needed, as you can see - no one over-dosed. Please don't get mislead by this misleading. If it's good enough for the Queen .....

So science and government are better than mother nature when it comes to our health? I think not.

I am appalled at the ignorance displayed by the lack of "investigative" reporting on this topic. You went in to this one sided with your mind already made up!! Of course there is no measurable ingredient other then lactose and sugar. You weren't using the right tools to measure the ingredients. It's energy that is the active ingredient. I have used homeopathic remedies for many years with great success. When medical doctor have told me there is nothing wrong, homeopathic medicine solved my pain. It saddens me that more people don't try homeopathic medicine. They turn to perscripton drugs, with side effects that they then need more drugs to counter act. The thought that it is a placebo I don't buy in to as well. I have in the past used a remedy that I thought was the correct dose that worked for me in the past for the same issue and it didn't work. It was the wrong potency, when I used the right potency it worked instantly!! You can't self diagnose with homeopathic, sure some remedies will work for everyone for the same issue, like arnica (bruising, inflammation and pain) but others are very specific. Just try it what do you have to lose, homeopathic are very inexpensive as well.

I have to say that I would love to know more about why homeopathy and other alternative therapies are growing. The program was very one-sided.

I believe the program was called "cure or con?", which is confusing to me, because it gave no voice to the many parties out there that represent the cure.

Judging from the feedback, perhaps we can look forward more shows covering this topic in the future.

CBC Marketplace stressed the amount of money that was being spent on Homeopathy and that it is increasing dramatically. Homeopathy is a small part of the total spent on alternative medicine. It is very inexpensive medicine – most remedies cost under $10.00. However, many Alternative Health Care Practitioners are trained in Homeopathy but don’t practice it. The time required to find the “best remedy” takes so long that they can not make money at Homeopathy. We use Homeopathy a lot because (we and other) have energetic or informational assessment devices which assist us to select the best remedy quickly for each individual.

CBC, i never thought i'd say this - poor poor poor journalism. Homeopathy is effectively used around the world and will continue to grow and flourish because it works.

In reply to a comment from Cory Albrecht

If, as you say, the effect is only as placebo, then why is it effective for cure and prevention of mastitis in herds of dairy cows, for example? Homeopathy is much more commonly used by farmers in Europe than those in North America. They would not use it if it did not work; their livelihood is at stake!

This discussion almost has religious overtones, no verifiable evidence required, anecdotal stories are enough?
The largest company selling the remedies cannot explain how they work?
Adults who use these remedies are on their own and should not expect the province to assist in covering the expense of "drugs" with no measureable active ingredients.
The woman treating her child while avoiding vaccines which are proven effective is endangering his life and the the lives of other children he comes in contact with.
Offering this as a treatment for breast cancer could delay effective treatment while the cancer spreads and becomes impossible to stop.
More anti homeopath videos.
Enemies of Reason Richard Dawkins clip re homeopathy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KbLHii8M2A
Amazing Randy homeopathy clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U
People who believe homeopathy need to find evidence from reliable sources supporting it, so far I have not seen any and don't expect to.

Refreshing! I was beginning to think that investigative journalism was dead. It was great to see a news show that accurately presents the science, without feeling the need to give equal time to cranks insisting, "Homeopathy works because the sugar pills have magic energy that science can't detect!" or "Homeopathy works because water has memory!" (I guess in those pills, the water molecules must have passed their magic memory on to the magic sugar molecules).

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/memo/homeopathy/ucm1202.pdf

The report concludes:
Most comprehensive systematic reviews of RCTs in homeopathy (individualised or standardised
treatment) have concluded there is evidence that the homeopathic intervention differs from placebo
treatment.

Very poorly researched piece. CBC did not do their homework at all. Homeopathy has been proven to work.

I always used to respect the CBC so imagine my dismay as I watched this programme. If I had not watched it myself, I would not have believed that the CBC would have produced, much less aired a programme so obviously biased. Clearly, Eric Johnson did not do any real research into the subject or this would not have been aired.

This was not journalism. This was sensationalism at its worst! Something I expect from the "newsrags" on the supermarket shelves! Shame on you, CBC! What a waste of the taxpayer's money. Worse than that, you have misinformed the public and possibly harmed people who would have been helped or cured by homeopathy.

The only way to redress your mistake, and I believe it must have been a misjudgement as I hate to think this was done deliberately, would be to produce and air a show with real research and speak to people who are really knowledgeable about the subject. Even a first year student could have done a better job than the "homeopath" you interviewed. How far did you have to go to find her? Anyone can find directories listing homeopaths with years of service, great skills and profound knowledge of the subject.

You have tarnished your reputation with this biased show! It cannot be called genuine journalism.

In reply to a comment from Bozena

A huge number of illnesses get better on their own. Like colds and flu and earache and some food poisoning and sports injuries and so on. When you go to your medical doctor, just ask if there is something that can help without having a prescription. (Doctors think that people want a prescription - or they are perhaps too busy/seeing too many patients and a prescription is the easiest thing.) If family doctors had a fitness trainer and a dietician down the hall, and they referred their patients to them, that would likely help a lot of people.

In reply to a comment from CJ

At the same time you took that homeopathic remedy, you started eating a more healthy diet, and you began an exercise program. Perhaps you also quit a stressful job at that time. If you go back to your previous lifestyle, your blood pressure will go up again.

Those people who believe in the use of Homeopathy will continue to believe in spite of your poor reporting. On the other hand you may have convinced someone not to try it who would otherwise may have been helped, gently, effectively, without side effects, without stitches, without toxic drugs, without pain. Hey nice work Marketplace good job. Nothing like messing with the right of people to make up their own minds, do their own research, ask their own specialists, practitioners, friends and family. Ya you go ahead and sway everybody in your direction, because you know everything right. You are the experts on things that can't be explained by regular run of the mill science. Because gee I don't know all things different or usual, on this god's good earth can be explained away in 15 minutes. There is no use really trying to explain Homeopathy to the common man or women because well they are just too common right, so just go take a pill, that will fix everything. I wonder who is funding your programs and paying your bills.

In reply to a comment from Facepalm

Your view of being skeptical as a default to scientific discovery is valid as long as it isn't biased like your view and this program's take is.
Skeptics like yourself come to the very place you're trying to avoid. Like your plucking of studies to support your bias, (The way the Lancet discredited itself) and like denigrating homeopathic results to credit allopathic ones, and excuse me, I heard the lady saying she could help the cancer, I didn't hear the word cure. Notwithstanding that there haven't necessarily been cures.
The research in homeopathy needs time to catch up with experiences of patients and practitioners. Its coming along, but people like you that would rather close the file, and witch hunt, oppress discovery. Same with programs like this.
For example, for me, it was a given there wasn't any detectable substance in remedies and the the mode was something immaterial. And I accept dynamic forces at work in healing, that aren't so explicable. At the same time homeopathy is explainable in a dynamic way, based on the law of similars, not even remotely elaborated on in the show.
But then I read this piece of research that makes it pretty clear you can actually find nanoparticles in remedies way beyond Avagadros number.
When I heard the woman from Dolisos saying the technology hasn't been developed yet to find the active ingredients, I, a homeopathy supporter thought: why is she saying that? It works dynamically. I put it down to editing, but then maybe she saw this article:
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:WN__5VXYLEcJ:www.homeopathy.org/research/basic/Homeopathy_and_Nanoparticle.pdf+Extreme+homeopathic+dilutions+retain_3;starting+materials:+A+nanoparticulate+perspective&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjmTLPeDszEYugCaOXVFXm-ZNq_ljJl1xmffboWiPNZxGO-cSoa3Kbqz_hd0_PPZuA jHSZ6XpUKMNnTrdiHegWFxLPtgMgS0gON2gQ9H7g8ymXvws9sRbfVnRV_8h8ev0CdWDqd&sig=AHIEtbT0F8BQ 1tT- Tmt_cj2DkKgsHRuaiw&pli=1

Hmm I wonder why this wasn't included, instead of using taxpayer's dollars to show something we already know at U of T, and using taxpayer's dollars for a program to oppress science. Thats gone too far!
Disgusting!

It is extremely sad that the standard of my favorite TV station have dropped to this abysmal level.
The CBC is supported by our tax dollars. I am wondering if a major review of the standard of reporting of CBC is needed to ensure that programs are unprejudiced and unbiased. I certainly would not wish for my tax dollars to be used for such poor quality and deliberate biased programs.
As Canadian we should have the right to choose for quality and not for extremely poor journalistic standards.

It seems illogical that the scientific method used in western medicine’s clinical trials should apply to a completely different philosophy of medicine (I.e. Homeopathy that is based on individualized treatment). But these methods have been demanded by the scientific community in order legitimize homeopathy. The fact of the matter is that major studies and independent researchers have demonstrated that homeopathic protocols can fit the methodological standards used in conventional medicine in nosologically defined disorders, in which personalization of symptoms is limited. Unfortunately members of the medical profession and media have failed to perceive the existence of this body of studies.

A highly comprehensive study to read comes from an Italian Advisory Board titled, Homeopathy: the Scientific Proof of Efficacy. This study hoped to stimulate open-minded physicians as many European countries include homeopathic medicine in their legislation, and health authorities have approved homeopathic pharmacopoeia thus giving homeopathic medicines the status of ‘drug’ in many countries.

The specific objective of this meta-analysis was to see if it was possible to be certain, beyond a reasonable doubt, that homeopathic medicines have therapeutic effect (or interact with living beings and restore health). The advisory board selected only studies that complied strictly with scientific methodology and criteria used by the international scientific community (I.e. in accordance with Helsinki Declaration on Therapeutic Efficacy). The results were ‘surprising’ to many as they concluded homeopathic medicines undeniably possess therapeutic efficacy.

It is natural for any individual raised under Western Medicine values to have, at first look, questions and doubt and incomprehension regarding this very complicated system of medicine. But upon timely and in-depth study of this amazing science and art it becomes crystal clear that homeopathy is not a con! The true scholars of homeopathic medicine know the augments of placebo and the questionable dilution methods etc are the same old stale arguments than can undoubtedly be debunked. The efficacy for homeopath can not only be seen in the everyday observation of a classical homeopathic clinic (and 200 years of success using the same unchanging classical principals) but yes scientific studies….but you have want to have to see them.

Yes, homeopathy is a young medicine and like any science there is still so much to learn. That’s what makes this dynamic and highly individualized method of healing so exciting! Instead of thinking into the future and moving towards integrated medicine like many other countries (so we can really do justice to our patients), egos and dollars are getting in the way of progress and integration in the area of healthcare.

After watching this show, now I am truly disappointed in CBC's reporting on homeopathy. This was so biased, and not enough time given to actually find people who homeopathy has helped without the use of conventional medicine. I, for one, have been one of those people who homeopathy has done wonders for. It works on ailments you
have, not ones you do not have. The people eating the sleeping pills obviously did not have sleep problems, or did they consume 8 cups of coffee before they did that? Who is to know from the reporting coverage? It is also amazing this show has cropped up now, when homeopathy has been around for a very long time, and because Ontario wants to legitimize it, suddenly it requires tearing apart by people who have never used it. We who do use it, are lessening the expenses in the health care system, by seeing our family doctors far less than we ever used to.
There should be a second part to this homeopathy show by CBC and this time, talk to people who are
actually helped. As for the non-believers, you cannot comment on something you have never tried yourself. You might be pleasantly surprised. And, yes, Belladonna does work for migraine headaches, sugar pills do not. Did the fellow who took the Belladonna actually have a headache when he took it? Would you take Advil for a headache if you did not have one?

Homeopathy - a superficial and scathing report
The scathing report by the CBC program "Marketplace" on Friday 14th January, and its cameo appearance on "The National" with Peter Mansbridge the night before on the subject of homeopathy is probably the worst piece of reporting on a complex subject that I have ever seen. The depiction of a healing paradigm that has been around for 100s of years in such a profoundly crass manner was extremely disappointing to say the least.
It is arguably difficult to "prove" that "homeopathy works"; in the same way that it is difficult to prove that "antidepressants work". Proving whether treatments work or don't work in the area of human health is fraught with extraordinary complexity, and is not something to be tackled by a half hour journalism "exposé".
Homeopathy is undoubtedly a healing method that uses an unusual premise - namely that a natural substance that can cause certain symptoms, when diluted sufficiently, can be used to remove those same symptoms. This dilution factor increases rather than decreases the potency, and it is precisely because there is not a molecule of the original substance remaining that homeopathy purports to work. No one would deny that this is an absolutely strange and foreign concept. However, you cannot prove whether it works or not with a scientific model that has the opposite point of view - namely that increasing doses of a substance have an increasing beneficial effect!
The program gave more camera time to a bunch of crackpots standing outside a Vancouver Hospital trying to "prove" that homeopathy is useless by swallowing large amounts of a substance that has "nothing in it" than they did to a reasoned and balanced discussion of a 200-year-old healing method.
In 1988, the head immunologist at INSERM in Paris France, the late Jaques Benveniste, discovered that he could reproduce the 'dilution effect' in the laboratory. In a complex series of experiments, extraordinarily well controlled, he showed that in diluting a solution of human antibodies to the point that there was virtually no possibility that a single molecule remained, that the effect on human white cells was just as though they had encountered the original antibody. His article was published in the well-known medical journal Nature. What followed were scathing attacks on a reputable scientist who lost his reputation and his grant money as a result. Since then there have been many attempts to replicate his work, some of them successful and some not. This is common in the scientific community. The concept of a dilution effect remains controversial but not irrefutable.
I use this example not to support or deny the benefits of homeopathy, but only to exemplify the kind of emotional reactions we have to what we do not yet understand. The reaction of the scientific community was quite "non-scientific", emotional, and destroyed any understanding we might have gained of what would be considered an unusual phenomenon.
The only support that I would give to the Marketplace program is that it did uncover one of the heinous aspects of science - the idea that we can cure illness, particularly chronic illnesses like cancer. Nobody should ever claim that cancer can be cured - and this includes the highly debatable modern "scientific" treatments using chemotherapy and surgery. None of these has ever been subject to a double-blind placebo controlled study - the so called 'gold standard' for proving therapies. The outright hypocrisy of this is not called attention to by the Marketplace program. The program also calls attention to the fact that the homeopathic "vaccines" are claimed to be as good as regular vaccines. I have never seen support in the literature for that particular claim. However, I have seen much support in the literature for claims that homeopathy works for a number of quite severe complaints of a variety of dysfunctions. I don't think anybody has ever measured how much harm might come from substituting regular vaccines with homeopathic vaccines; although we do know that harm can certainly happen from regular vaccines - another factor not mentioned in the CBC Marketplace program.
Likening homeopathy to taking a placebo is an argument without dialectic. Scientists who study placebos understand that absolutely everything has a placebo effect - upwards of 30% or more. The implication in the program is that homeopathy is a placebo, whereas nothing that is orthodox has a placebo effect which is also misleading and invective.
The CBC program also, I believe, did inestimable harm to the federal government's responsible program of regulation by suggesting that only products that have been proven to be "cures" should be regulated. This is absolute unmitigated nonsense. Just go to your local drugstore and look at all the cold remedies that sit on the shelves that people buy by the truckload! None of these has ever been proven to work, (in fact many of them have been shown to have no benefit), and yet they are regulated, promoted, advertised and consumed by thousands people! Let's not fool ourselves - the ability of the scientific community, (often aided and abetted by multinational pharmaceutical companies with a lot of money to spend and profits to be made), to actually prove anything is severely limited by our simplistic and outdated model of healing and science.
I am seriously disappointed that Marketplace and The National insists on sensationalist tin-pot journalism to denounce a whole healing approach in what was 30 minutes of diatribe. They should stick to denouncing and rooting out consumer products and high cell phone bills and stay away from complex issues that require more thought and deliberation than could possibly be contained in a 30 minute magazine program. Shame on the CBC!

In reply to a comment from Cory Albrecht

Unless you have taken a homeopathic remedy for particular ailment or emotion and have felt the relief, then you have no right to comment on whether it is a waste of money or not. As for regulation--who is in line to profit?? Big Pharma is seeing that people are getting fed up with paying big bucks for prescriptions that seem to need more prescriptions to counteact the side effects of the drugs so they want a piece of the action. It's called a monopoly. As we can see with "monopolies" they do not work in the best interest of the population. Do you like having a choice on a cellphone plan or would you like to be a slave to one company--like ie. Bell Canada before deregulation. Do you like not having a choice. Open your mind.

In reply to a comment from B

Does anyone see the bigger picture?? This isn't about Homeopathy........it's about government/big pharma passive aggressive control over your healthcare. The drug companies want your money. First they are taking away your freedom to buy natural health care products, now they want you to believe, because they are greedy (and scared), that you are wasting your money on homeopathic medicines. You aren't seein your freedom of free choice being taken away from you. Wake up. If you don't believe in it don't buy it. Why give up the freedom to choose. We all pick what we want to "waste" our money on and some of us like to choose an alternative medicine instead of drugs which cost a fortune. The Royal family uses homeopathy, there are actual Homeopathic Hospitals in Europe, and India is the leading country that supports and uses homeopathy. This is about taking your freedom--nothing else.

It was obvious you were determined to show that homeopathy doesn't work and people are being ripped off, as opposed to doing a thorough investigation of the subject. Ridiculing the treatment by having people stand on the street and consume vials of a remedy only demonstrated a bullying approach, and I now question how much serious research you do for any of your programs. Is it always better to take a pharmaceutical drug that even in the recommended dosages, can have all kinds of side effects? Many people who use homeopathic remedies have already tried the Western medicine approach without success. The homeopathic remedies aren't expensive and since people pay for them out of their own pockets, rather than through government or private insurance, why do you need to make this look like a giant ripoff? I'd say your time would be better spent looking at how pharmaceutical companies gouge us. Homeopathy has helped me and others I know. If you have hay fever, try Pollinosan and see for yourself. At least you can be assured it won't hurt you.

I have used homeopathy for many years and I know it works. people who don't know the effects should not be judging it. I think that because so many people are turning to natural forms of healing, the pharmaceutical companies are getting a little worried? To bad no one is investigating all the side effects of conventional medicine, which sometimes can even be the cause of death.

I would guess 95% of the people supporting this quackery wouldn't be swayed by any critical analysis no matter how it was presented.

Think hands over the ears while shouting - "LA LA LA LA"

Why? They can't have their precious beliefs questioned. At all.

Plenty of people here have calmly and politely pointed out that they do in fact, understand the principles and practices of homeopathy - far better than some who claim classically trained professional expertise.

It has also been calmly and politely pointed out why these practices are a farce and certainly not deserving of our tax dollars anymore than the Separate School Board.

If people want to faithfully slather themselves in snake oil, fine.

Not on our dime.

Cue the calls of coldhearted closed-mindedness bathed in my own ignorance...

Ya know, ancient "acupuncture" needles looked a lot like medieval bloodletting tools, not the sexy sleek surgical steel of those of the relatively recent past...

Of course, those who like to quack that they are doctors try to make it sound so much more difficult and profound

White lab coats are expensive

Google "Korsakov Method" it's really quite a simple process and then "projection"

Instead of just deriding homeopathy on the grounds that it can't possibly work, why don't you buy yourself a first-aid remedy, learn what it's for, and then try it as it is meant to be used????

Don't believe everything you see...that was a
poorly presented, closed-minded show clearly illustrating typical western arrogance by essentially saying that, since science is unable to show proof, then it must not exist! We are not GOD, we do not have the answers to EVERYTHING and it's highly doubtful that we ever will! Homeopathy at its most basic, is an energy treatment modality wherein the original substance is distilled down 'til all that remains is the energy signature inherent in that paticular substance (there is energy in all things). That energy essence when ingested or placed on the body then resonates or 'speaks' if you will, to the energy of the body, seeking to correct whatever imbalance that is present. Unlike conventional medicine which generally seems only to seek 'the quick fix', to cover things up with a 'bandaid approach' by treating symptoms without seeking to find, address, and hopefully correct, the cause of the symptom(s).

Good job CBC and CFI homeopathy is a scam and this is the way it should be treated in the media... as a big joke!

Last spring, after surgery for a crushed tibia plateau, I experienced excruciating pain when the nerve block wore off. I had been given Oxycontin which at the maximum dosage did not alleviate the pain. My naturopath sent over arnica, a homeopathic medicine and as it started to work, I weaned myself off the Oxycontin. I am so grateful that I had a choice. A choice that worked for me.

Last spring, after surgery for a crushed tibia plateau, I experienced excruciating pain when the nerve block wore off. I had been given Oxycontin which at the maximum dosage did not alleviate the pain. My naturopath sent over arnica, a homeopathic medicine and as it started to work, I weaned myself off the Oxycontin. I am so grateful that I had a choice. A choice that worked for me.

In reply to a comment from Abber

They have shown evidence, you just haven't bothered to learn about it and read it.

So negative! So naive! The mind plays a huge role in healing. 'Active Ingredient' drug companies and Homeopathic remedy companies know this. They're both making tons of money. Whatever works for you. There are results on both sides and there are snake oil salesmen on both sides. Do your own research, stay positive and healthy and don't let this negative journalism get you down.

In reply to a comment from Cory Albrecht

They have shown evidence, you just haven't bothered to learn about it and read it.

In reply to a comment from Cory Albrecht

Perhaps you should look at this study . I have treated a group of cats with a homeopathic remedy only for hyperthyroidism, one of them are now 19 years old, ( treated 10 years ago) and many responded curatively. http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/wsava/2006/lecture2/Dobias1.pdf?LA=1
Why do people think that we have to be able to explain everything. Sometimes things just are the way they are, they work and we do not know exactly why. All we need to do is to look at the stars and galaxies and immediately, it becomes clear that we know very little about how the universe functions.

Good article here.

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/homeop.html


Found this show to be the usual uninformative, sensationalized journalism that these shows always provide and should not be taken as any scientific evidence either way. In short it is an ignorant production as expected, holding no value or merit.

Now for some humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0
That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E

Tired of reading the endless spam posted on this in the quise of criticism...tired ooooh I am dissappointed in CBC ... ... big Pharma is behind this... CBC it is biased..tired of listening to people who wont owe up to the fact they are pushing quack medicine.. well take a break have a laugh and watch the video above.

If you need evidence that Homeopathy works, there are thousands of walking evidences out there who have overcame all sort of diseases. Sure, you and all those so-called “scientists” can claim that it is all “placebo effect”, but how do you explain that when it comes to a baby or even a pet who can’t be fooled by placebo.
Didn’t you ask yourself before airing this program that if Homeopathy is nothing but fraud how come it has survived more than 200 years, is now the fastest growing health care industry in Canada, why it’s legitimate practice in Europe & around the world, why QE and Montreal Canadians have chosen this method among all other things that were available?
You’ve spent most of your program trying to prove that there is no substance in Homeopathic remedies ... well, I have not seen a single Homeopathic source which claims otherwise, so don’t see the point that you’re trying to say.
I am not surprised that the way that these remedies work may not be fully explainable yet ... how much our current level of science and knowledge knows about non-physical aspects of remedies and human body?
You are claiming that you don’t have any link to anywhere, then in the best scenario, you’re unintentionally acting as media in the propaganda of big pharmaceutical companies which are worried about losing their market to Homeopathy more than well being of paitaints. I used to trust your program as my source of information or as you put it “consumer watchdog”, but if the rest of your investigations are like this one, I would rather find another source for myself.

Dear CBC, why did you censor my comment when I had important clinical evidence to offer in answer to the questions you raised on the show?

As a retired nuclear reactor physicist I am very aware that only a small percentage of reality has been uncovered by "scientific" scrutiny. 20 years ago, I reluctantly resorted to homeopathy to treat tri-geminal neuralgia ( very Painful) as conventional medicine's only solution was very risky surgery. Several months of homeopathic treatments by an experienced practicioner freed me from all pain. That was 20 years ago with no recurrence!

For those of you who feel homeopathy is a viable alternative, go to http://whatstheharm.net/
Too many people (and a lot of them KIDS) are hurt because of the use of sugar pills masquerading as science-based-medicine.

Statistically speaking, recovery rate for those taking homeopathic remedies are no different that letting the disease run its course without treatment (which sometimes means death).

Shame on those who use homeopathy on critically ill people.

 
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