Academy Award-winning actor Olympia Dukakis talks about the politicization of the gay marriage debate, and recalls a painful moment from her cousin Michael's 1988 Presidential campaign involving country music singer Loretta Lynn. Lynn, campaigning for then-Vice President George H.W. Bush, remarked that Michael Dukakis was not her kind of politician, adding, 'Why, I can't even pronounce his name!''
She's in the red chair tonight, along with activist Nazanin Afshin-Jam.
On America's debate on same-sex marriage:
"Well it's... I mean, how to answer that... It's unbelievably ridiculous, number one. It's painful to listen to it, number two. It's a time for scoundrels using issues like that to politicize and to fraction, make fraction - I mean, where do you go with it? It's all those things, you know? I'm glad that he spoke up, I'm glad that Biden did. I knew he'd felt that way. I could that from watching, even listening to him from when he first started, but I think it was - I mean it's now... It shouldn't be important, but it is. And so it's important and I'm glad he did it. I'm glad he spoke up."
On Loretta Lynn's statement:
"She actually said when she was introducing Bush, "How can you vote for a man who can't pronounce his name?" And everybody laughed. I remember watching that, I remember feeling a deep, old, old pain and anger from when I was a kid in Lowell, Massachusetts, which was a mill town. So the parents fought in the mills, the kids fought in the streets. Listen, by the time I was twelve, I had my own knife... But eventually, I became New England fencing champ for three years.... That's from that little knife!"