Upon Further Review

Whats all the fuss about anyway. Fighting happen in hockey...it always has. The reason why this fight s blon wn up is b/c it involves the Roys... Nadeau should have defended himself. I understand not wanting to fight but not just sitting there taking a beating... At least try to defend yourself...throw a couple back or grab the other guy...dontjust curl up. And Roy Sr. didnt tell his son to beat an unwilling player. It looks to me more of a father to son gesture...as in "if you have to...go for it" kind of thing to me. I love hockey and everything about it... Dont say you love hockey but dont like the fighting in it...It's part of the game... Admittedly you shouldnt fight if the other player doesnt want to but stuff happens, he's been suspended and its done.I've been playing hockey since i was 4 and a player slashing or tripping without the ref noticing is more of a danger and i'd rather take off the gloves and beat him up then risk him hurting a teammate... Whch is why hockey has fighting in it...sometimes players have to do something themselves and this is how they do it

So, okay Patrick Roy and his son are the bad boys of Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. Fighting is not something that a Hockey Fan has not seen before this event took place. All sports have their violent temperaments i.e. Football, Baseball, Soccer and so on… I agree it was ugly to 16 years old fighting, however, it was no uglier then a player using his skate on another player ankle, leg in the NHL. Let us move on.

This is what happens when you make athletes millionaires. Roy was always a piece of work. Giving someone like him the venue to carry on his violent and over the top arrogance is the price we pay for supporting pro sports and its disgusting wages.

Perhaps Mike Tyson can purchase a team to coach. Then, rather than have Patrick and the wonderful son he raised in his own image, gooning to impress dad, you could have tyson goon the opposing coach in Roy. Unfortunately, I don't believe Tyson invoking brain damage on the already brain damaged Roy, would make Roy understand what a despicable menace to society and his own son that he actually is.

Went to the leafs habs on saturday, and I havent seen as Many P. Roy jerseys since 93.

Pretty halarious seems a Patrick Roy got kicked out for verbally abusing Owen Nolan. Koivu decided to chirp as well, but ended up getting a third man in.

It took this "roy" a good 15 minutes to leave, as he was high fiving every habs fan in the section.

Good to see that "roy" fans take on a little bit of sir patricks character when cheering.

P.s. Patrick should not be facing any consequences, he should nto be held accoutnable for his sons actions. Patrick made his name, Jonathen tarnished it!!!

Mr Dawson of Toronto said:
"How was this any different than what Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore. There was an intent to injure no doubt."

There was no intent to injure in the Bertuzzi incident. There was certainly an intent to break the rules of hockey and an intent to cause pain, but any objective look at the actual event in Colorado will show that Mr. Moore's injury was caused by Mr. Bertuzzi falling on him *accidentally*.

Before anyone goes after me, I want to point out that anyone who accidentally injures someone while breaking the law is still guilty of assault.

If you're breaking the rules, and someone gets hurt, then you are responsible. Period. End of discussion.

But please be clear: there's no evidence of an intent from Mr. Bertuzzi to end Mr. Moore's playing career.

He might have been a great goalie, but not a coach or leader as we all saw how he act on the bench. The actions of both he and his son, and the team... should not be tolerated. There should be legal charges against them. The other golie never intented on fighting, that is not part of the game... or they would not need penalties for it! Big brave man when he has a team behind him and lots of padding. Remove them both from the league for life!

He might have been a great goalie, but not a coach or leader as we all saw how he act on the bench. The actions of both he and his son, and the team... should not be tolerated. There should be legal charges against them. The other golie never intented on fighting, that is not part of the game... or they would not need penalties for it! Big brave man when he has a team behind him and lots of padding. Remove them both from the league for life!

Give me a break, all of you have never met Patrick Roy, how the heck can you know if he is a good or a bad person. There have been hundreds of worse incidents in junior hockey than the fight between his son and the Sag players. Patrick Roy is a winner and thats what counts. If you asked his junior players if they would want him to stay or go, they would all want him to stay as their coach.

Keep up the awesome work Patrick.

Sam

Sanctimonious in the dictionary has a picture of Ron McLean,please stop the piling on of the Roy Family .If they were FOG (FRIENDS OF GRETZKY ) nothing would be said of this minor hockey incident .As a lifelong Hab fan I much prefer Patrick`s behavior than Ken Dryden`s selling out to the Leafs and as a meally mouth politician .

Lloyd in Ottawa I noticed that too, the player skating into the ref like a freight train. Whammo...ouch.

Roy would make a great coach in the NHL. I'm not sure when hockey turned into figure skating but the truth is that it's a tough game and incidents like this have always happened. Jonathan's actions were wrong and he was punished for them. I think the suspension was too long and anyone who disagrees doesn't know hockey. Darren McCarty continued to pound on Claude Lemieux when he was prone and in the turtle position and he got a standing ovation and no suspension (he wasn't even kicked out of the game). This is about people hating Patrick Roy for no other reason than the fact that he was the greatest goalie ever to play the game and people without talent tend to hate those who have it.

FIGHTING SHOULD BE DEFINED AS TWO PLAYERS SQUARING OFF AND GIVING SOME SIGN THEY WANT TO GO. WHAT ROY DID HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIGTHING DEBATE. THAT WAS AN ASSUALT!

Patrick Roy jeopardized the careers and health of the players on both teams with his actions. He was lucky there wasn't a serious injury.

Roy may be a Hall of Famer, but it's clear that when it comes to self-control and discernment he's a Hall of Lamer.

Coaching is all about Leadership. Quite frankly Patrick Roy has been displaying poor leadership as a coach.

Would he make a good NHL coach one day? Sure! just not one with a lot of class.

Patrick Roy was great as a goalie.As a person to look up to,he is at the bottom of the barrel.

Suspend them for life. Hockey is a joke for not banning fighting. No other sport allows it.

So Roy is a God to young hockey players...?!?!

I don't think so.

Just goes to prove...the nut doesn't fall to far from the tree...

Face it...Roy and Roy Jr just set hockey back 50 years with that action...NICE MOVE!!!

On New Years Day in Buffalo 80,000 fans didn't buy tickets to watch a fight...

Is this what we want as our national sport...

How ironic that probably the most passive country on this planet is home to the most violent pro-sports...what a joke...

Nice going Roy...!

fighting is a part of hockey it just needs to be a controled part of hockey these guys have a lot invested in their careers and so do the parents so there is a lot of built up responsiblies so there is always going to be aggression, heat and revenge I can only imagine what it would be like to have been beaten as often as the Leaf's for example and not come out sometime onto the ice ready to slash everything is sight but control and a ,mindset "lets do a better job this time out",should be the adult decssion these guys make I wish them luck and I hope they do

There was a bigger story that was totally missed in this "Roy" story. As the cameras focused on the junior Roy as he raced to the opposing team's net, a player totally toppled a referee who was racing to the scene. No menton of that event has been made since. Where's the corresponding penalty/suspension? Instead, people continued to focus on the Roy family. Watch the video carefully. I feel sorry for the ref.

These things happen in hockey all the time, as of matter of fact there has been much worse incidents in hockey's past. The only difference now is that you get media types who blow up the situation and politicians who try to use the situation as a springboard to gain votes by considering outrageous ideas like legislating fighting out of hockey. Not to mention our new found appreciation to appease the American audience!!!!

Let me first say that the insurance companies will probably dictate what happens to fighting in the future.

I think many people are unclear on what warrants an "assault" while playing hockey, most of all the police and the courts. There is not a consistent standard applied...yet.

I believe that the courts will look at the intent of the sport as to how it applies an "assault". In football the defensive player is to stop the offensive player from gaining yards. In basketball you are to score more baskets and in hockey you are to score more goals. Seems simple doesn't it?

But what is allowed in those contexts, how willing are the combatants, and what purpose did it serve to those ends I think is what the court will look at.

I'm like many here that believe hockey is part of the game but if the hockey leagues don't better police themselves the fan base will change. Many people who don't like fighting have already tuned out and those that are having trouble justifying watching are searching for the game of hockey that they knew growing up...not what they are watching on TV right now.

Some argue that there is always a place for fighting in hockey. Well, just because it's always been that way doesn't mean that it should continue. It's time to change the face of hockey to give our children positive role models. Fighting isn't tolerated in society, and hockey is a part of our society. Whenever I see a fight at a game, I just have to role my eyes and shake my head. It's the most disappointing aspect of any hockey game for me. If players have aggression on the ice, they need to learn how to suck it up and deal with it like the rest of us. Coaches and parents can give their kids these tools. If a player can't handle their aggression on the ice, then they shouldn't be playing hockey.

Roy Sr is just a mouthy goon who had nothing better to do than cause headaches for officials and coaches when he played....
...come and try that shenannigans in Canada's Birthplace "Lil Waa"...be a much different story...Fin.

What is so intriguing about fighting in hockey? I watch the sport because I want to see an awesome pass or a play leading up to a goal, or because I want to see a goalie make a great save. What do you remember from a special hockey playoff game, the game winning goal, the game deciding save or a fight between two goons who do not belong in professional sports? Players cannot "police" themselves. Are you going to let players decide when it is offside or not? Saying that fighting has always been part of the game is so old and past tense. Should we go back to playing without helmets too? Get rid of all the equipment and play with woodensticks? Please, grow up hockey! And CBC and all other media, please stop gloryfying fighting. It is time for hockey to grow up.

In reference to DJMack's (BC) post, which was echoed by many, he stated..

"2 guys squaring off, respectfully removing their helmets, and having a go at it until one has too much dominance is a true hockey fight - and it has a place in the game."

..and then went on to lambast the violence of the sport.

I couldn't agree more with the first quote, but all this whining about fighting in hockey is the very root of these problems in the first place.

Whether they ban fighting or allow it, I don't care. I love hockey. But it's time to get off the fence and make a decision one way or the other to either allow it or outlaw it.

Do people realize if you take your helmets off in major junior to fight, you are going to be hit with penalties and misconducts to the point where you will get suspended for numerous infractions?

All these stupid rules, whether for "safety" or to curb "goon" behaviour (like the instigator penalty) don't work.

The most dangerous players out there are the ones who both hit and carry their sticks high, not the fighters. And it's time they remove the rules to allow those who do fight to take care of those problems without putting their team in the whole.

I'd much rather watch someone come over the bench to beat the ever living snot out of someone who has been taking cheap shots at my star players, then those same star players being carried off on stretchers or concussed.

I have a question.... What business is it of Mr. Jean Charest's that we TRY and remove fighting from our game? Last time I checked, the province of Quebec, or any other province for that matter, has no right or business becoming involved in any CHL league. I think it would be wise for Mr. Charest to stick to politics. You don't see the CHL commissioners telling our provincial premiers how to run their provinces, do you?

I cant understand why there so often has to be fighting in hockey. Fighting should be banned. Great example from the coach in this one. Great apology from the player as well not even mentioning a sorry to the goalie he pounded. Throw both out of hockey. I dont care if their name is Roy, Bertuzzi or whatever. Shame on hockey. Anything really getting done about this? Of course not. Year after year another incident. Thats why I HATE the sport.

Jonathan Roy is guilty of assault. There's an unwritten rule that you don't go after someone who doesn't want to fight. Roy broke that rule, in spades. He should receive at least a one-year suspension and a very heavy fine. His reinstatement should be made conditional on his receiving psychiatric treatment in the meantime. Only sick, demented people behave as he did.

I am not exactly sure how much his father was involved in the incident, but he definitely deserves some blame, and a harsher penalty than the league has administered. At the least, Patrick should be out for the rest of the season.

If Patrick--for all his great achievements as a player--is considered suitable for an NHL coaching job on the basis of his conduct here, then the sport of hockey is in grave danger indeed. It is at serious risk of descending to the realm of the Roller Derby, with its gladiatorial, Roman-empire-type combat interludes. If people want to watch pugilistics, let them go to the boxing ring where at least some minimal standards of sportsmanship are observed.

This incident makes me want to puke. It is a black day for the sport of hockey.

Jon

Never mind the past, we're talking about the right now. Yes, fighting is part of hockey. But the word/term fight or fighting implies willing participants. That was not the case here, Bobby Nadeau (let's not forget him, he's the victim in all this and seems to have been overshadowed by the media machine focusing on the Hot-Head Roy duo) was standing in his goal crease, leaning against the net, Jr. Hot Head skated over to him PULLED his mask off and proceeded to pummel the bejesus out of him. For what? They weren't even having words that I could tell. That my friends is an attack, an assault, a beating. This should be treated criminally just the same as if you got jumped and assaulted in a parking lot. Don't use the sport as an excuse to condone this. And Patrick Roy, Hot-Head Sr, has the nerve to say in the media the last few days have been painful for his son? Pardon me if my sympathy is a little weak for the 2 of them. I imagine the pain is being felt by Mr. Nadeau. This incident has solidified why the world perception of Ice-Hockey as being the sport of goons. Shame on both of them, and especially Patrick Roy as a father.

Chris from wpg
your post was probably the funniest thing I have ever read on here, yet still had a valid point.

Also, shooting 100mph pucks at pedestrians would land you a charge more along the lines of assault with a deadly weapon / disturbing the peace / criminal negligence / instigating.

Thanks for making me laugh this early in the morn.

I am so sick of the attention this is receiving, simply because people are so jealous of the Roys.

Jon Roy is only 19 - do you really expect a 19 year old to be able to control his "adrenaline" during a fight when practically every other player is fighting?

I am a goaltender myself, and I honestly believe in order to be a good goalie you must have a bit of a temper. You must be competitive, aggressive, and willing to do whatever it takes to support your team.

Give it up!

~ Proud supporter and long time fan of Patrick Roy

Very interesting reading from all you HOCKEY experts. Hopefully your recommendations
do not fall on deaf ears.

Just remember Stomping Toms Song.

(Oh the good old hockey game)

Vince Kennie

What a bunch of hyperbole from the hockey world's Henny-Pennys. There was a fight between teenage boys...big deal! Teenage hockey players often do not display effective impulse control and sometimes do what we saw replayed and editorialized ad nausem...they lose control and get in a big brawl. Noone got hurt and the sun came up the next day over the hockey world. So people, give it a rest.

Ban fighting in hockey.

Condoning something on the ice that would get you arrested on the street is moronic.

If hockey does not do it Governments will. Ban fighting now!

I think the league did the right thing.It wasn't from behind the other goalie didn't want to fight but he know he was coming>I think the NHL should look at the NHL first like stepping on other people with your skates. Pronger,Simon.And like the no touch icing.Roy will be a great NHL coach one day i beleve.

it is a sad day to see a former nhl hockey player involved in a bench clearing brawl.
what does this teach our young kids about
the pride and integrity of hockey today.
patrick roy should take a good look at his
past accomplishments and remember his true
pride of the game and sportsmanship.

I have been playing hockey for 55 years. The baviour demonstrated by this goalie should lead to his permanent ban from organized hockey. He is a disgrace to the sport and to all sportsman.

It's not like Roy Sr. told his son to jump the opposing goalie and rip his helmet off and wail on him.

However, Roy Sr should have simply done nothing and kept himself out of it. Although what do we know about the intensity of that game. It's not like Roy Sr. never dropped them against the Red Wings in a playoff game. Did he get suspended then? What about the Avalanche coach? Can't remember.

Like father like son. Seems to me Roy Jr. is a head case. But is he a good goalie? This may have cost the Remparts a playoff round and the big bucks that go with it, so I believe that the loss in playoff revenue from 2nd and 3rd round games will be stiff enough.

Patrick Roy's actions were perfectly fine. He saw that his son wanted to fight, so he waved to is son to go fight. His hand gesture says "If you're going to fight...go and fight." It does NOT say "go down to the other end and keep punching the other goalie even if he doesn't fight back, and then flip the bird to the crowd." Fighting is part of the game...and if you are going to do it, then go do it. In no way does Patrick Roy's actions intimate to his son to go and assault a player. Patrick Roy did condone a fight with the other goalie...the problem is that Jonathan did NOT fight the other goalie--he assaulted him.

Jonathan Roy could have gone down to the other end, and when the other goalie turtled, skated away. But he took it too far. Jonathan's actions were that of a goon. But that does NOT mean that Patrick told him to be a goon.

I find that voluntarily attacking another player really takes away from the game. If the attack by Jonathan Roy was the result of an overload of adrenaline and frustration (as he would like us to believe), it still amounts to having lost control.

Mastering yourself and pushing your physical limits should really be at the center of hockey. Fighting is often a sorry cop-out for lack of talent, or it's done in retaliation. Either way, making room for fights, accepting them as part of hockey, can only take the space that should be occupied by true talent.

I agree that fights are spectacular and have always occured in hockey games - but that doesn't mean we can't evolve and make the game better.

Decisively punishing the Roys (job loss, or a REAL suspension) would've been challenged because of prior cases, that's understood. Still, if we have any love for the game, at some point we'll have to move away from the adolescent point of view that fights are inevitable. Let's get real - they are if you lack the guts to send the right message or are too intellectually feable to imagine why and how to.

It's not about who, it's about what he did on the ice, I don't care if it was Joe Blow from Cocomo, and his son Mook,there would still be a public outcry for the actions that happened.

Jeff,
What I want to point to most of the respondants so far is this...

You probably didn't know Chicoutimi was playing Quebec in the playoffs until this happened. You probably didn't know Pat's kid was playing goal.

What Jonathan Roy did was wrong, don't scrap a guy who doesn't want it. I'm not the type to blame the victim, but come on, Nadeau, man up a bit, take your gloves off and at least if you don't want to fight, defend yourself. Don't just stand there. What did you think was going to happen? Were you trying to draw a penalty? I think they were past this point.

Overall I would blame the referees most in this situation. if a player is going berzerk, you get him off the ice, or at the least make sure he is skated to his bench, and you make the coach know that he DOES NOT LEAVE and for all his antics, Pat Roy would respect a stern official and the kid would likely have stayed put.

I think it's great that everyone gets to come out and say how bad hockey is or fighting is and we all get on the blog wagon. Noone talks about the other 1000 games of OHL or QMJHL or WHL games tha are played hard by fine young men in the spirit of the game. the fact something gets out of hand once or twice a year can't be avoided.

Patrick Roy will likely go on to be a top notch coach in the NHL. He has all the qualities many coaches and players(duh) need. He single handedly won two cups for the habs, and pushed the Avs over the edge and took them to the next level on their cup runs. This to me is a game that got out of hand, and it's not a big deal.

Although I love the game, and still play from time to time at age 55, the Roy incident just confirms that my decision to quit refereeing after more than 20 years was the right one.

Does hockey (in general) believe that game quality referees will be attracted to the sport if it condones such brutality?

2 guys squaring off, respectfully removing their helmets, and having a go at it until one has too much dominance is a true hockey fight - and it has a place in the game.

One guy pummeling on another player disinterested in engaging is just plain assault. Rage out of control. And there is no place in hockey for it.

So, it would follow that there is no place in hockey for J. Roy, and if his father had any class or love for the game, he would be ashamed of his son for his actions. Unless he ordered them, in which case there is no longer any place in hockey for P. Roy.

At stake is the future of the game, and the quality of our officials.

This is simply not acceptable in this sports when a player engages a fight and still hitting the opponent down on the ice when the opponent did not want to engage to begin with.

Although a ban will be a loss for the sports, both coach and player, regardless of their relationship, should be suspended for a whole season. This is pure objective judgement, not sweet justice or revenge.

That should serve as an example in this league, as the NHL has also done with players stepping outside the bounds.

On the other hand, Nadeau had the right to press changes should he choose (which he should) on Roy the son for assault.

People, please stop comparing a hockey fight to fighting on the street! It makes no sense. Most of the stuff that happens on the ice would be illegal off of it. Should a good bodycheck during the game be banned as well, because if I catch a guy walking with his head down on the sidewalk I can't throw a shoulder into his chest and flatten him. That would also be assault. Or what if I started firing 100mph slapshots at random people walking down the street? I'm sure that would be considered assault as well. These examples sound ridiculous, but so does all the ranting about fighting. What Roy did was clearly brutal and he deserved to be suspended, but there's nothing wrong with two hockey players that choose to drop their gloves and have a good scrap.

If you're not saying Patrick Roy's behavior is right, then why not write more about what's wrong with his antics and how it affects the players, fans, his family (most pointedly in this case, his son) and the culture of dysfunction it creates.

The courts have long taken the position that a distinction exists between a brawl/fight in the streets and a brawl/fight during a hockey game (the first being deprived of social value). The time has come for the politicians to step in and change the law. There is simply NO social value in the brawl that took place between the Ramparts and the Sagueneens (or for any brawl/fight in hockey as far as I am concerned). If people aren’t allowed to settle their disputes with a fist fight in the streets, they shouldn’t be able to do so simply because they’re in the middle of a hockey rink!

Ban Roy [sr] from coaching. His having encouraged his son to skate the length of the ice and physically assault the other net minder is completely unacceptable and outrageous.
Since when did we blindly accept the notion that a contact sport just had to include fisticuffs?
One litmus test of our appetite for hockey fights is that if you're at a game, leave your seat to head to the restroom and you hear a loud roar from the crowd... you cannot just assume that a goal has been scored. It usually means a fight is underway. This is just totally insane.
I think that zero tolerance for fighting should be instituted top down!

Boo hoo the boys are fighting. News flash. Boys fight. As a boy you know it is always a possibility that you will be in a fight. It is almost a given from the time you are very young. As a boy who plays hockey, (I did) there should be no doubt in your mind that you may once in a while be in a fight, and wether or not you started it is irrelevant, as is the reason it started at all. It is reality. Yes there is a lot of testosterone. That is the same ingredient that fuels the action and makes the game so exciting and popular. If you are on the ice during a bench clearing brawl, and do not want to be involved then "get off the ice". Don't just stand there and watch as someone skates the entire length of the ice to hunt you down. In hockey it has always been considered a taboo for anyone but a goalie to fight with another goalie. Part of the reason being the large amounts of equipment that goalies wear, and the restricted movement because of it. Roy did what many goalies have done, and then ended up taking on a forward from the opposing team. ??? Where is the justice for that? Patrick Roy's choice to motion for his son to go and get the other goalie was correct in that situation. It sends the message, that not only will we beat you in hockey, but if you wanna play rough, we will beat you in a scrap too, and it sends the message to all other opponents that they will be facing in the future. We are not scared of you. We will beat you.
It is a powerful tool, of psychological intimidation that has been employed by all who wish to win in highly competitive sports.
The human species has not evolved as much as some would like to convince themselves that it has. Fighting is still part of life, just like in the animal kingdom, which I will remind you, you still are a part of. A world renowned Yoga teacher once said at a seminar that I was at..." Men have two major purposes in life, Protection and Procreation".
Cliff Easton

I have no problems with the fighing in hockey, at least on any level in which "adults" play. One rule - at the first sign of a fight, when the first glove comes off, all officials off the ice for the duration of the fight. This would give those in attendance a longer break for the washroom and to get another beer, and those watching at home could maybe have a little nap.

Patrick was an arrogant pompus sack of S*** becasue he could be. He was the best goalie in the game at the time, and maybe ever, so who says he had to be modest about it.

Changes in hockey have to be made at the NHL level, so until Gary Bettman and Colin Campbell and Paul Kelly decide that they actually want to improve their product and move forwards rather that lose loyal fans by running such a storied league into the ground with their questionable management style, then get used to it.

This is modern day hockey for now and if you dont like it, please dont watch, dont buy tickets, dont buy merchandise, dont buy pay per view. I hear all these people complaining, well why dont you do something about it, boycott. If you want the League brass to know that people arent happy, then dont support the League. Case in point, The Leafs have once again missed the playoffs this year and their immediate future is looking Very grimm (and all thanks to the MLSE) but they will still sell out everysingle game and season ticket next year in the most expensive hockey market, you figure it out.

The argument you're using to give reason for Roy being of NHL coach calibre is exactly why he should not be hired as a coach. Any coach that is as unstable as Roy is, is a coach who's apt to say something in the dressing room that's equivalent to putting a price on an opponent's head. His penchant for solving on ice frustration through violence instead of through other means was once again made evident in his blatant hand gesturing instruction to his son to "go assault" the other goaltender at the other end of the ice.

I think they should be charged. There is no place for this stuff in hockey. Patrick is making sure that is son is as much of a baby as he is. Let him go after someone that will fight back (THATS WHAT I WANT TO SEE)

That is plain and simple. It is assult causing bodily harm. He should be charged.

Being a proud hockey dad of two, a hockey coach, and a hockey player... I cannot condone the actions of Jonathan Roy in any way, shape, or form! What happened in Chicoutimi is a real shame... plain and simple.

That ain't hockey.

Fighting is not part of hockey. If it was, there wouldn't be suspensions handed down. There's a difference between a fair fight and being pummelled and assaulted. Get serious!

I have a quick and short question for Patrick Roy: " IF THIS WAS MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO and IF THIS HAPPENED TO YOU (YOU WAS A GOALIE), what are your reaction? "

Okay people enough is enough .The media blows on ice incidents out of preportion with everything players do being rebroadcast over and over . In the old days most games never had a single camera at them so no one really knew what when on . Do you think this little dust up was bad or Patrick Roy waving to his son to join the brawl would have even been noticed in 1966? Hockey has turned into a cross between figure skating and basketball. It is said that now the skilled players get to show their stuff well that is crap.To me a skilled player is one that can give and take a hit as well as pass and score as well as drop the gloves .The old players could do all this because they knew enough to keep their heads up . Now it is okay to skate into the middle of the ice with your head down .The game has turned soft and I really don't care to watch it anymore. Maybe we could start a league that is actually real hockey. Maybe even play it in towns in Canada that appreciate real hockey .

Never made pro, never made semi.

My dad coached me throughout rep, and well, I have my fair share of stories where I disobeyed, took advantage of, or disrespected, only because this was my father before he was my coach, and felt as if I had some leniency compared to the other players.

I remeber getting in a fight one game, where I beat the isht out of the guy, to a point where not only did I celebrate, but I also egged on the opposing bench.

I was benched, and punished accordingly, nonetheless, if I had a different coach, one where I would have feared my position on the team, I probably would have acted differently. I felt invinsible with my father on the bench, and for season after season, i literally was.

Im much older now, and have developed more mature morals. My opinion today is that Father Son tandoms on the bench should not be allowed.

Roy should not be reprimended seems Jonathen is his Son. No one knows what was said on the ice. I had a goalie who would have reacted the same way as Nadeau, nonetheless that goalie, was nothing but a Puss, with a huge mouth. Maybeeee Nadeau deserved some of waht he got (i will not defend roys actions seems he used excesive force)

The professional sport of Hockey encourages behaviour like this with Rock-Em Sock-Em videos, endorsing clubs to have ‘enforcers’ and ‘goons’ on teams and glorifying players who accumulate the most penalty minutes, then when something like this happens “Hockey” throws up it’s hands and says “Oh my, how could this have happened in our sport? This is deplorable!” and makes a token attempt to curb violence and feign concern by dispensing a few meagre fines and 2 weeks off for offenders.

From my point of view the institution of hockey encourages violence and rule-breaking, and frowns upon actual athleticism and players who choose not to fight. It is no surprise that this type of attitude will trickle all the way down to the youngest of players as they try and emulate the bloodshed seen in the higher levels of this sport.

Oh, it seems that it already has.

Hockey should mirror the society it's played within and that includes regulation. If some guy had walked the length of the bar to attack me like that, unprovoked and with whom I'd had no disagreement, he'd be charged and I'd see him in court to answer to it. What's so different about hockey? I don't buy the "it's all part of the game" line either. Sure, fighting has a place on the ice, but it has to be controlled and the parameters strictly enforced. If two guys drop the gloves and both want to go for it, I say let them, why not? But this was an assault, plain and simple. Roy snr incited it and Roy jnr was stupid enough to go for it. That father and son combo, in any other walk of life, would be seen as a menace but because it was Saint Patrick people come out of the woodwork to justify it.

Hockey has evolved over the years and I hope that one day the powers that administer this great game will have the guts to throw people like the Roy duo out of the game, plain and simple. 50 years ago, face masks for goalies were not part of the game and a large proportion of fans, owners and players alike balked at the very notion of goaltender headgear. Can you now imagine the game played without it? No, didn't think so.

One day, goons like this will either be a thing of the past or the game will have died as the sport all true hockey fans hold dear.

RIP decency and respect for your fellow athlete.

To all of you with this silly notion that
"What happens on the ice stays on the ice" i.e.- keep the courts out of it. GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE !!! Do you or I get this kind of protection in the workplace ? What if the player hauls a gun out and shoots some one ?
30 game suspension ? My point is , where would you ever draw the line on this but I guess if you're going to give the players carte blanche to do whatever they wish ,a line will never have to be drawn. The very idea of giving these testosterone fuelled athletes a free ride for their actions is preposterous.

I strongly believe that the QMJHA should suspend Patrick Roy from his coaching position and his son handed a suspension for the remainder of the play-offs. To me, criminal charges should be laid upon both Patrick and his son, particularly Patrick. What a display of the true nature and persona of Patrick Roy, a**hole extraordinaire. He is fortunate personality is not considered when players are inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame. What an embarrassment to the sport.

I simply don't get all the references to an "assault". An assault is a criminal code offence. In the context of a hockey game an "assault" does not exists. If the players fights and exchange punches it's a not an assault. We refer to it as a "fight" unless a player goes Bertuzzi or McSoley on you.

The other goalie wussed out and was smart enough not to retaliate, therefore sending J.Roy in the box and putting his team on a power play. Advantage Chicoutimi - That's why penalties exist in hockey.

And yes if this happened in the streets it would be an assault - however this is not the case. Therefore all those references to an "assault" are non-consequential because it does not reflect the circumstances in which the act occurred. If J.Roy's actions constitute an assault then we should label a baseball player ramming hard into the catcher or a massive NFL linebacker tackling and slamming a running back's head to the ground an assault, err not! These actions are referred to as "stealy a base" or "making a tackle".

My 2 cents.

I normally feel the legal system has no place on the ice, but after watching, and re-watching the vid of this.

i have come to one crappy conclusion, this little SOB should be brought up on assault charges.

there was no reason for him to do what he did, a hockey fight is a hockey fight but when the guy is unwilling to fight you, and you hit him when he is on the ice, not once or twice, but stopping to see if anyone is going to help the guy then hitting him again twice more. i am sorry this Roy like his father should be put out to pasture.

what a bum like father like son. the apple dosent fall far from the tree

Skip, I understand what you're saying, but it's ridiculous to think that the same rules should apply on the ice, that do on the street. So slashing is "assault with a deadly weapon", every time two enforcers fight, they get charged with assault. And everyone is so quick to chastize Roy jr for this, not thinking that the other goalie had to have done something pretty bad to set him off like that. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that he was right in what he did, and by no means do i condone his action, but why is nobody even asking what this other kid did, maybe put some of the blame on him. There have been incidents WAYYYYYYY worst than this that have gotten practically no media attention, if this wasn't Patrick Roy's kid, it wouldnt' even be a story.

This is not the first time Patrick Roy has shown his true colors. Having watched him closely during QMJHL games at Harbour Station I am shocked but not surprised. Like Father, Like Son! I dare an NHL team to pick him up as a head coach. In the real life of the NHL, he would be eaten up by other coaches and GM's. Don't get me wrong, I am not a tree huggind bleading heart liberal, I just don't like to see an animal like Roy Jr loose on the ice period. It was caught on tape, Roy Sr motioned for his son to attack. I hope there are criminal charges placed here. Patrick Roy, You Are A Scum Bag of Gargantuan Proportions! By far, NOT st patrick. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. A fine example to young hockey players. I sincerely hope you are dealt with in the courts.

The best punishment for both Roys is to not let them coach or play in the NHL. Afterall how good a goalie is Jonathan Roy if he got shelled for seven goals in two periods. Secondly why did his father do to his son exactly what the Montreal Canadiens did to him on the last night he played in a Montreal uniform.
Neither Roy is NHL material, the son proves it by his crappy play and moronic demeanour. The father proves that he's not mature enough to join the pro ranks as a coach. If Patrick Roy didn't co-own the Remparts, his future as a coach might not be a sure thing.

This incedent was not hockey. This was assault and I believe Bobby Nadeau should be able to press criminal charges against Roy. I beleive the punishments assigned were too light. Patrick Roy and his son should be ashamed of themselves.
As Canadians living in the USA we are hard pressed to get hockey coverage here. It was such a shame to see this incedent covered on CNN with the report questioning 'what is wrong with these hockey players?' It wa an embarrassment and a black eye on the game of hockey.

I feel this is beyond a question of hockey fighting.. This is a quesiton of HOCKEY RAGE!!! I think there is a very thin line between what we saw with Jonathan Roy and the behavior we call ROAD RAGE... He went purposely after a player.. And what is even worse,, he had no true remorse, and gave the finger to the spectators, and then literally bragged to a reporter..... »If I were the parents of this young man, I would be very , very concerned at this point.. His behavior was not normal..
And if it is true that his father encouraged him to do this, then that makes it all the sadder.. A parent would would do that, needs himself to take a very good look at his own anger issues. And if this was done, by the slim chance to get publicity.. Then God help the game of hockey.

To Alex from Edmonton and the rest of the whiney pacifists....Hockey is a physical game and there are a lot of emotions and adrenalin is running wild. There is a history between these two teams and it boiled over again. There was an all-out brawl on the ice with all players from both teams squaring off. For the most part, when that happens, the goalies tend to square off as well. It happens and you have to live with it. Do you all cheer for Canada's National Junior Team anymore, after what happened a number of years ago against Russia at the World Juniors? Of course you do. It happens and you move on. The two teams involved have, so should you! And to St. Patrick...I supprted you after that embarrassment in Montreal and I will support you today. See you in the NHL!

I agree with fighting being part of the game (as long as it is between two willing participants). I will cheer a fight on dureing a heated game. In this paticular case from the clips I seen Roy made his way up the ice and beat an unwilling opponent to the ice, after letting up for a few moments (maybe long enough to catch his breath) he started beating his opponent as he lay on the ice.
For this he gets a 7 game suspension? In the real world this is called assult and he would face a monetary fine along with possible jail time. Am I missing something here?

Well here we go again. Another distrubing incident in our beloved game of hockey. Now first let me say that i am against ridding hockey of fighting. I believe its the best way for players to vent their frustrations rather than a two hander across the face or a shate across your leg or anything severe like that. If two guys wanna stand toe to toe and go at 'er to vent out then let them. In this case for the Roys im not sure that it will even affect them. Roy Jr maybe. His 7 game sentence i think was enough, he could have gotten a game or two more. His team getting hammered and an incident breaks out he gets the whistle and the nod from a fellow goaltender, an excellent, proven winner and possibly one of the best goaltenders of all time, not to mention his father/coach...to skate the length of the ice to do some business. Roys actions could have been misread as he whistled and motioned to Jr to come to the bench but when he went directly to the opposing goaltender with no attempt to stop him from big daddy then we knew the intention. Sr Roy should have been slapped hard for his decision and part in the melee. Nadeau had absolutely no intention to fight...nor to even defend himself which i couldnt understand but yet Jr still pummelled away. As for Jrs second fight, i would have loved to see him get his comings but unfortunately he didnt. Jr was frustrated but his actions were aided buy the decision of his famous father...whom Jr probably knows not to cross. Now daddy has always been flambouyant but always backed himself by his play. Now that hes a coach, and possibly a good coach, by no means is he a role model nor should he be in a position of authority because a full team of crybaby, spoiled Roys, is a team of bombs ready to explode on a whim at his command. Maybe Patrick Roy should be the one in command of the forces in Afghanastan.

I think that it's time for the NHL to step up to the plate and set a better example for the youngsters and their hockey leagues. There is no place for fighting in hockey; it needs to be banned completely. The best games to watch are not the ones that have fighting. I for one will not be putting my kids into hockey specifically because of the fighting; at least until the rules are changed. If players can't control their aggression, then send them packing and waving goodbye to their hockey career forever. That will turn some heads and cause others goons to think twice.

Should both be fined $40,000 each for incouraging and insiting a fight!!!!This is appalling let alone totally disrespectful to the game!!!

I have played hockey all my life and I am almost 50. I have seen many talented players but that doesn't mean they are also talented people. Patrick Roy and his son are a classic example of this.(no class) As long as hockey players are continously recruited for talent alone there will always be stupid incidents like this one. I have been a Habs fan all of my life but I have no respect for a player like Roy he is nothing short of hillbilly and in regards to his son....well the apple doesn't fall from the tree.

This was a random act of violence. What is hard wired into the brains of the Roys' that would lead them to act this way? Hockey is a fast game, and tempers do flair, but this was simply out of control and dangerous behaviour. There needs to be a way to discourage players from thinking they can get away with going crazy on the ice.Yet another sad moment in hockey history.

I scanned almost every post here pretty carefully and one of my curiosities was not satiated. Does anyone know what triggered the episode? Was it merely a 'dusting' as I read on a news report or is there more bad blood between these two? That 'reasoning' aside, I saw the replay of the incident and it is pure assault and this punk kid Roy will be prosecuted if there's any justice at all. If I catch my son praising this kind of egomaniacal beating, he will find his happiness compromised, I guarantee you. What are we teaching our youth? Wake up, parents! We can learn from this horrible incident and utilize it for healthy education.
Thank you to Sheldon of Maine for his honest comments. Sheldon, we need you at these games. Don't give up on the sport. We need you and your kind to be there and to stay vocal on these issues.

To say this is a part of hockey is a complete disgrace to the game. Why is it so trendy for some folks to dismiss senseless violence as 'part of the game' they claim to cherish as their own? These actions lack the honour and integrity that makes hockey the beautiful game it is. Yes, fighting will always be a part of hockey. Yet these were acts of cowardice. Those of you that condone it should be ashamed as you are the cowardice minority that fail to understand both the game and the stupidity of your words. Do you have children? Shame on you if you do.

What we saw was an assault, done by a halfwit kid, ordered by a halfwit dad. I hope the police finds them guilty of assault, that should end their unpunished acts.

What a disgusting but predictable escalation of violence on the ice under the banner of a hockey game. Remember that final playoff game seven in New York, the "after the bell" thumping delivered by scum bag Mark Messier against Trevor Linden? No? Not a word was said about it in the media. The message: "It's okay to cold cock someone if you're on a rink." I boycott New York games. Remember Steve Moore's dirty attack on Marcus Naslund? No? Naslund has never played well since then. No real punishment for Moore. That must mean it is okay to attack and assault another player, right???? We all seem to remember the thumping of Moore by Bertuzzi and some subsequent litigation. As long as we - the fans - let them get away with it, they will persist in acting like goons instead of skilled players. Who cheered young Mr. Roy on? Who encouraged him? The fans did. Sickening. Ultimately the fans control this. I have in the past, and will continue to, walk out of an event that turns into a goon festival. I love a great hockey game and really hate it when things like this ruin it. It's not what I pay money for. Both Patrick and Johathan need to get out of the hockey world. And they can take other like minded morons with them. They are a cancer to the fine game of hockey.

a good fight,or a good hit can be exciting part of the game. But watching what Johnathon Roy did, was disgusting. A real turn off. Theres no place for that in todays hockey. Father and son are an embarassment to the league, and to the game itself.

Of course, Roy is a draw. But really is he "fit" to lead or direct a team? He is a ego maniac and will that type of personality go well where team concept is supposed to rule?
He may be a hockey legend and one of the greatest goalies to lace em' up, but being a good goalie doesn't mean he is a good person. His character is a selfish mean one. Not good for a team

Patrick Roy is not bigger than the game of hockey ! Somebody please tell him that !!
Patrick Roy played the game with natural hockey skills, but all his other skiils are no better than goon Tie Domy ! (Tie Dummy)Not good for NHL .........

Patrick Roy has some mental problems and now his son has them too.
Fighting is a part of hockey, but a REGRETTABLE part, not a desireable part. But what Jonathan Roy did is all about egomania and mental illness. please stop treating the Roys like they deserve any respect.

I watched the video of the attack. If a father encouraged his son to attack another individual and the son followed through with it in another venue (i.e., neighbourhood, mall, school, etc.) and there was evidence such as a video tape, would not there be charges laid?

Perry Bonnell

yes, fighting as you noted between consulting combatents. This was person i.e. Jonathan Roy beating the *&%* out of Bobby Nadeau. That is out and out abuse of another human being. As always, not of any importance to show that beating someone up is WRONG. Let's keep the importance on the face that money is the paramount in sports and sadly to many areas on this planet. The fines should have been much much more and Messrs. P. and J. Roy gone for the season.

I've never been a fan of fighting in hockey -- I always believed that the game was about skill and sportsmanship. Still, I accept that tempers flare and the occasional tussle may occur, and appropriate penalties will be handed-out.

What happened with Roy was NOT a fight. Skating the length of the arena to attack a player who is clearly minding his own business is assault, pure and simple.

As for the suspension, seven games is a joke.

You forgot to mention that Sladok's attack on Kadri earned him all of a two minute minor and no suspension. He was back at it on Monday in Game Three and finally got suspended for five games for his bullying in that game.

Changes direction, then skates the length of the ice, can see the opposing goaltender is not going to fight.. assaults him anyhow!!! Might be a hockey game, but, both parties must want to dance, if not!!! ASSAULT
And his unstable "Dad" is equally responsible, those suspensions were a JOKE!
Nadeau should follow up on this in court.
The Roys' are an embarrasment to the game,full stop!

And what do you all think will happen when young Roy meets up with some 'frustration' on the home from a bar. I will lay odds he will fight. Fighting has to be stopped.

I was disgusted with that whole incident! It is time to start "cracking down on this stuff!" Patrick Roy and his son should be ashamed! What are these leagues waiting for? Someone to get killed before they react? The suspensions and fines are a joke and I am thoroughly disappointed!

The problem with hockey is the leadership they won't do anything until some poor kid get kill. Then you will see those loser come out and say "oh we had no idea that this could happen". For those so call fans who say fighting is part of the game, you guys are just nuts, its a distraction more than anything, it allows lame teams to rely on their knuckle head to take out talented players. So in my view fighting goes against what hockey is all about.

With all due respect Sir, permit me to disagree with You. Showbussiness? Lafleur, Carbonneau, Beliveau, Mahovlich, Dryden, Richard etc... these are the players that contributed to make this Sports Our National Sport.

Patrick Roy is a self-centered individual and should not be showed in example to our Kids. His career was filled with display of his " show bussiness " abilities. He even confronted the President, in front of 21,oo0 & on National TV.

Allow me thi irony: The NHL doesn't need a French Don Cherry.

Sincerely,
Claude

Another hockey league has shown that it is unwilling to deal with the goon show. Another slap on the wrist to fulfill an obligation that they are doing something about it.
This shows that only law enforcement is the only possible way that we can get decent hockey. My complements to Quebec for saying that they are looking into this aspect. Complete the job. Make an example of not only the Roy family but keep it up next time to show hockey people that you mean it.
Patrick Roy a coach? Let's remember his conduct on and off the ice. I can only liken this to Babe Ruth's aspiration of baseball team management. He was told "Babe, how can you manage a team? You can not even manage yourself."

The junior goon should be charged in criminal court with assault because that's exactly what it was. Tho old goon should be charged as an accessory to assault.
What a proud moment for Hockey and for Canada.
Zero skills - all muscles and testosterone - no brains.

It is appaling that this goes on in sport. This behavior is role modeling the worst that is considered 'sport'. You might as well showcase drunken brawls at the local pub! When will semi-pro leagues and pro-leagues forbid this garbage? This is the same sort of sordid nonsense as was seen in the Todd Bretussi fiasco. Suspend both the father and the son for life!

If I had been the goalie,> young Roy would have had my goalie stick smack on the noggin ,it seems it is only a place to put his helmet anyway and not used for anything else. I.m so happy my son who is now 37 never played hockey not even once ,but he has repesented Canada at several world Karate Championships Iguess thats why he,s so disaplined and would never pull a boner like that bloody idiot

What a joke our sport has become; the only sport in the world that not only allows fighting, but reveres it. In most sports, you would be be out of the tournament within seconds. People use b...s...t lines like "If you don't fight, you're a wuss". It wasn't that long ago in the NHL that players like Gretzky showed us all how a high level of skill wins games. Patrick Roy is showing his son that if you don't like what is going on, have a suck attack and assault someone. What a crock!! It shows a lack of skill, maturity, basic social skills. Good luck in prison after the short career is over.

My wife and I raised foue sons and they all still live here in Amherst and all of them are in contact every day and one reason why we are so close as afamily is that if one of them did something as disgusting as your Mr Roy did they would not have to wait to see what punishment the league would hand out as they know that I would personally kick their ass up their back so far they would have to lay down to crap. I dont condone violance and never had to use it but again if he was mine he would have been a sorry young man when he and I met in the dressing room, but it is obvious that Patrick Roy , was a good goalie but has been a complete failure as a father. The son is responsable for his action but a large percentage of the blame should be given to those who raised him.It takes an idiot to raise an idiot.

This is so blown out of proportion. If this young mans last name was not Roy this would have just been another brawl in the Q. This is a mild brawl compared to many I have witnessed in this league, but you never heard about them and why?? Because there were no famous names on those teams to put in the spotlight.

Funny thing is I only see people commenting on Roy. What about Rioux leaving the box to chase Roy and fight him?? Don't see anybody having an issue with that. If your going to charge Jonathan for that attack on Nadeau, you should charge Rioux for the same by chasing Roy down while he was skating off,even though Roy pummeled him as well.

People need to relax a little bit.

Marek. I’m baffled trying to understand your logic and position? Two weeks ago you were merrily expounding your glee from watching fights saying “it's my right to embrace it, even get worked up over it, especially when it's a really good hockey fight, packed with emotion, suspense, and purpose.” Now your position is that Roy motioned his son to “attack the other goalie, who wanted no part”. “I can never condone that. Consenting combatants only.” Roy was in 2 fights. One where he attacked the goalie and then another immediately after when a player tried to defend his teammate. So which fight and what actions of Roy are dishonorable and which are noble? Because as you said “thankfully the NHL has taken the right approach to fighting and quietly let it exist.” You also said you “prefer fights that come out of the play and have a point.” Isn’t a blowout reason enough for a brawl and which of the on ice fights was one of your preferred acts of violence? “Organic, unexpected are the best.” Another question I have is if I was frustrated by performance in something (job, marriage, politics, school, sports etc) and took my frustration out by beating someone on the street, playground or office how do you classify the action? “Awful and in many ways indefensible?” Would you say to onlookers “if you don’t like it, don’t watch it?” I can’t decide what’s more comical. The violence on the ice or listening to pundits like yourself back peddle after any of these incidents, take the high road and say, there’s no place for stuff like this in hockey. Even the League Brass who don’t have weak stomachs had the balls to say the QMJ H L “finds the events (not just Roy) which took place over the course of last weekend’s games deplorable and unacceptable. We are deeply troubled by the incidents.” Your newly adjusted moral stance and justification for Roy Sr.’s hot temper comes off as adolescent and incoherent. And “I’m not saying it’s right, it’s just a reality.”

The more we accept this behaviour the worse it will get. All this will do is raise the bar on hockey violence. I dont mind the confrontations that occur in the game but there should be a limit. I am sure if the names of the goalie and coach were different and more generic the punishments would have been different.I hope my provincial residence doesnt discount my feelings. Many players have been seriously hurt. Some for life. Does it take a death to get things changed. As I said before like Don Cherry says its a rough sport with enough rock'em and sock'em.

Patrick Roy and his son should be punished by law for instigating violence. They proved that they are two dummies with millions of dollars in their accounts but nothing inside their heads. Their act enraged the nation. Shame on them.
Ron

Aside from the great career Roy had, his "spoiled kid" attitude and "poor loser" character has affected his offspring and came back to haunt him because he never grew up himself!

To all those agreing that the Roy's were out of line.
Put your money where your mouth is.

Boycott all games involving the Roys'.

That'll make the leagues take note.

I'm all for letting fighting be a part of hockey, especially professional hockey. Just one rule I would insist on if I were in charge: At the first sign of a fight, when the first glove comes off, all officials off the ice for the duration of the fight. No exceptions.

To Nick from Montreal: I can only hope that your comments: "True hockey players take it like men and they find an opportunity for payback. It's like an honor code. Don't complain, be tough. AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ICE STAYS ON THE ICE. LEAVE THE COURTS OUT OF IT. They have no business to regulate the rules of hockey" are of the highest satire. Please say that you're not serious!

Picture for a moment a hockey player skating up behind an unsuspecting player (a player who jostled him - legitimately - against the boards) after the whistle, and then swinging his stick, two-handedly, like an axe, and smashing the other player in the face. The other player drops to the ice, unconscious, face and mouth smashed in - facing months, if not years, of rehab and physiotherapy, along with multiple surgeries.

Is this part of the game? Take it like men? Leave the Courts out of it? Are you serious????? I have personally witnessed the absolute brutality of such an attack, as I've described above. Because it's hockey such behaviour should be accepted? There is emotion in all sport, but there is also discipline. Hockey players must learn to control their animalistic impulses - plain and simple. There is NO excuse for the actions of either of the Roys - their conduct is - quite simply - criminal.

And yes - I am a long time player and fan.

Here are my thoughts:
a) Patrick Roy used his clout and status as a Quebecois hockey icon to prevent his assitant coaches from getting in his way on Saturday night, and to have his players do his dirty work.

b) Jonathon Roy will not play in the NHL because of what happened in Chicoutimi. By influencing his son as a parent first, as a coach second, Patrick has just deep-sixed his son's pro-hockey career (hence the "I'm sorry" press conference).

c) Patrick Roy clearly pointed @ Jonathon to ambush Bobby Nadeau and sucker punch him. What was Nadeau supposed to do, flee the situation and look like a wimp?

d) Patrick Roy is classless and has a severe inferiority complex that has stunted his ability to shape young hockey players into good people first, hockey players second.

e) Jonathon Roy, 18 yrs. old, looked like a seasoned NHL pugilist in Chicoutimi. Where does an 18 year old GOALIE learn to fight like that, unless he's going to use his skills in the future? Patrick, that's dispicable.

hockey can bring on the emotions.

but by not discouraging brawls ( little bitty fines aren't discouraging ) leaves the alternative i.e brawling is encouraged.

at the moment it is a war game rather than a sport.

maybe game clips should be posted on CNN.

The video of Jonathan Roy attacking the opposing goalie clearly should be evidence for the prosecution in a 'Criminal' charge of Assault.
What else is it? It was not a hockey fight when only one person fights and one shows restraint, good judgement and didn't fight back at all. The police should do the right thing and prosecute. If this happened anywhere other than a hockey arena there would be no debate.

Jonathan Roy should be charged and suspended for YEARS not weeks.

This display by coach and son Roy are one of the reasons why my kids do not play hockey and some of these responses only affirm the barbarianism. Hockey people cannot control the game - perhaps the commentator and reviewers have had too many concussions? Roy senior is an idiot and the son is a close second.

After spending a good many years coaching and sixteen years refereeing amateur hockey I think the suspensions given to patrick roy and his son johnathon does not fit the crime this is a disgrace to amateur hockey as a whole.The suspensions should be much more severe. as for Patrick Roy he should be barred from coaching amateur sports over his motioning to his son to attack the oposing goaltender.

Come on people. Between the 3 CHL leagues and the NHL 6780 regular season games will be played this year. Counting the Simon / Ruutu incident, the Pronger / Kesler incident, the Roy incident and the Sladok / Kadri incident and throwing in another half dozen for good measure, "ugly incidents" occur in less than 0.0015 % of the high level hockey games played in these leagues. They get plenty of media attention and are not actions management, players or fans should be proud of but they are hardly epidemic.
The game is played at high speed and with a great deal of passion by big men. To be honest, members of the hockey world as well as we fans should be proud of how rare they are.

Johnthan Roy acted very foolishily and should be punished much harder.

At one time you had the odd fight in Hockey. You even had the benches cleared and yes it was exciting. It wasn't all the time though. Now the younger fans expect the fights and stop watching unless blood is spilled, and this is the case in more than just hockey. It's time to get back to what the sport is suppose to be. Yes, there will be rivalries. Yes, there will be fights but hopefully not the amount there is now. As for your last comment, "I’m not saying it’s right, it’s just a reality", you may not say it's right but you did just condone it with that comment.

@tucker - ya fights are a part of hockey but that was not a fight it was an assault

What is most dissapointing is the number of people that refer to fighting as such as major part of the game. As if fighting has become part of the 'rules of the game'...or without it, it's simply not hockey. Maybe the NHL should institute a new rule that forces a fight within 20 seconds of a face off? Might as well make it official.

Or better yet, why not just add a puck and net to extreme fighting competitions. Then we'd only have to watch one 'sport'.

I'm not a wuss - and love hockey - but it seems skill, competition, smarts and strategy are no longer what is required to keep fans watching. It's sad for real atheletes and real 'sports' fans.

I thought this was a Junior hockey leauge. That is what is most disturbing. These are kids/young adults who are looking for guidence from a trusted individual, in this case P.Roy. What would have happened if the other goalie was killed by one punch (it happens)? Oh the ratings will be worth it?

As a fan who practically worshiped Roy, I have to say that I am thoroughly disgusted by what I saw in that game! As a longtime official I am even more disgusted and passed on a chance to go to the Lewiston Maineiacs/Cape Breton game tonight just because I am tired of the testosterone driven cockiness over talent attitude that exists in Jr. hockey now. There are so many aspects of CHL and NHL hockey that are being emulated by kids at all levels and, unfortunately the bad is mixing in with the good and all is being looked at as acceptable. It seems that nobody even gives a second thought to the absolute lack of respect for another player that is consistently displayed at all levels of the game anymore and until all the leagues take rules enforcement MUCH more seriously I am afraid I see no improvement in the forseeable future. I am tired of watching vicious hits from behind being called simple boarding or even let go altogether when officials at lower levels are struggling to send messages that these actions are unacceptable and are the "bad guy" for enforcing the rulebook. Does somebody have to be paralyzed, or even worse, killed, before something is finally done to send a message? I hope not! Meanwhile Roy Jr gets a measly 7 games for a criminal act and his father, my former teenage hockey hero, may as well have gotten an "atta boy". Lifetime suspensions? I don't think so; but some form of real message had an opportunity to be sent and, sadly, it wasn't. Hopefully somebody wakes up soon and sees the talent drain from Canada to the NCAA ranks and realizes that it is happening for a reason!!

It's a total joke.If I had done to someone on the street what Patrick Roy's son did to that goalie I would be charged with assault.The other goalie did not even want to fight and yet he still kept getting pummelled.Reminiscent of Todd Bertuzzi and Steve Moore.The behaviour we accept on the ice should be the same as we accept on the street.

Hockey has always had fighting and was built on this as part of the game. When you go to a game and a fight starts the crowd goes wild. You never hear OH! Stop!

I have been going to junior games for years and there have been some really good fights. For all the punching that goes on I have never seen anything more then the odd black eye and some sore hands. The worse injury I have ever seen was a broken hand from punching a helmet. The fights looks far more serious then they are.

I noticed Nadeau got up, dusted his gear off, laughed and played the rest of the game no worst from the wear.

It is not figure skating, curling, ping pong or Sunday shopping. It's Canadian hockey! The fastest, toughest most exciting sport in the world.

What a disgrace...this is the problem with hockey fighting...the line can easily become blurred betweeen two "consenting" fighters and this kind of aggression that is nothing else but criminal assault. I'm a huge hockey fan, but I agree with the minor league ref who posted here earlier: fighting is not in the rule book as something to be tolerated, and it should not be tolerated, even in the circus that is the NHL. If I want fighting, I'll watch boxing. But I want hard-working, fast-paced, competitive hockey...it's exactly b/c the game is physical that there needs to be far more respect among the players, and fighting only decreases that respect. J Roy should've been suspended far more severely, and same with his cry-baby father. I'm disgusted.

No matter what suspensions have been handed down and no matter what opinions are created by this incident, permanent damage has been done. This is not to say that suspensions are not warranted. In my opinion, both deserve everything they got and more. Patrick and Jonathan Roy will always be remembered for this incident. Jonathan moreso than Patrick, as Patrick has flown off the handle and embarassed himself many times already in his career as a player, and a coach. The reputation of Jonathan Roy will be tarnished from here on in. No matter what direction his career takes, he will always be remembered as a savage who appears to require major interventions in the area of anger management and abusive behaviour.

Bravo Patrick Roy! You raised a goon! A classless goon.

Patrick Roy has no class and should be suspended the rest of the season.With all the contraversey in the NHL now with the Simon and Pronger incidents why would the NHL wanted to bring back the old Philly style of hockey. They keep preaching to make the game faster better and be role models for our future hockey players.
This behavior basically condones violence and is one small part in our problems in society and the justice system. Parents and other role models need to be just that Role Models. Society needs to stop being bleeding hearts and bring back strong morals by getting rid of these bums.

Everyone, relax. Like it or not, this is apart of hockey, always has been, and always should be. The only difference now is that with new media at every game, it spreads throughout television and the internet and gathers more attention. Gordie Howe is a great example of an NHL star who could score and knew how to give a beating. He ended numerous careers of opposing players, and we read about it in hockey history books in awe, like he was some folklore tale.
I have played hockey my entire life. And after playing Junior A hockey in Ontario I have seen many dirty players injure other players. True hockey players take it like men and they find an opportunity for payback. It's like an honor code. Don't complain, be tough. AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ICE STAYS ON THE ICE. LEAVE THE COURTS OUT OF IT. They have no business to regulate the rules of hockey. People who have played hockey at higher levels will understand me. There is a risk involved in hockey, everyone knows this when they sign up. Learn how to protect yourself. Nadeau should have stuck up for himself. What he did was almost as embarassing.

Penalties and fines were not big enough to pass the message that violent acts of aggresion are not allowed.
My son just last week was struck intentionally in the ribs with a skate from another player. Since it was a practice the coaches did nothing about the situation and I'm still waiting for an asnwer from the minor hockey league on what will happen about this.
I find that the sport is getting out of control.

I love hockey and I love hockey fights. If you don't like hockey fights, better start watching the European teams and their 2nd class leagues or you can watch some nice figure skating.

Hockey without fights is like substituting the meat from my hamburger with some type of vegetarian mixture...not the same, not as enjoyable and surely would not pay for it.

Signed: the average joe, who like to drink beer and watch hockey.

I disagree with some of the comments here regarding how the NHL is just a sell-out league and isn't based on the values we try to enstill in our minor programs and for the children. Patrick Roy IS controversial, he has always been, but he also always wins, he was one of the best goaltenders to ever play the game and is now a very successful coach. So bloody what if he sent his goalie down to go and fight as well? Patrick Roy didn't hit anyone, Pat Burns would have done the same thing.
I do agree though that Nadeau watched Roy (Jr.) charge down the ice right at him, Roy is a top athlete but it isnt like he snuck up on him, or could he nor any goalie professional or not skate the length of the ice so fast that Nadeau didn't notice.

Hockey has always had fighting and was built on this as part of the game. When you go to a game and a fight starts the crowd goes insane. You never hear OH! Stop!

I have been going to junior games for years and there have been some really good fights. For all the punching that goes on I have never seen anything more then the odd black eye and some sore hands. The worse injury I have ever seen was a broken hand from punching a helmet. The fights looks far more serious then they are.

I noticed Nadeau got up, dusted his gear off, laughed and played the rest of the game no worst from the wear.

It is not figure skating, curling, ping pong or Sunday shopping. It's Canadian hockey! The fastest, toughest most exciting sport in the world.

So much of what is happening in hockey in the last few years is very disappointing. The league has made some good rule changes to improve the game we all love here in Canada and I am not against a dustup between two willing players. But the intent to injure the opposition and win at all costs has almost made it a game I don't want my kids watching.
Play hard, play fair, may the best team win, hardly, the best cheater and brutal hitters are what is covvitted. Spoiled jerks like Roy can do anything they want just because they were a good player. Look at Chris Pronger, yes a good player but any decent league would have nailed him to a wall for his underhanded dirty playing years ago. Instead he is given small, insignificant penalties and suspensions and bascially allowed to do whatever he wants because he is a " top ranked player"
Having a bad temper should not be considered a good thing or something that should just be shaken off. Make this premadonnas act like grown-ups and control thier anger.
Being good at a sport should not allow you to be a jerk!

Jean Constantin says: "Let’s not forget that Canadian junior major hockey is nothing else but a form of entertainment on par with pro wrestling and ultimate fighting. It presents a violence oriented form of hockey."

Come on, Jean, the CHL is a no more violent brand of hockey than the NHL. This "Roy Incident" is not a common occurrence in Major Junior hockey. The hockey at the Major Junior level is the BEST amateur level of hockey, period. Why do you think most of today's NHL players come from the three Major Junior leagues?

Jean says: "the Quebec league is considered to be hte least rough of the three junior major leagues with the Western league earning the grand title for offering the toughest brand of hockey!

Oh joy!"

Well, we haven't had any incidents like this or the recent OHL incident, so what's so tough about the WHL? If you mean 'tough' as in competitive, intense and elite-level hockey, then yes the WHL is the 'toughest' League. If, however, you mean 'tough' as in a propensity for violence, then you are quite mistaken.

Are you a NCAA recruiter, Jean?

Absolutely disgusting behaviour by both coach and son and they should both be suspended indefinitely. How are we to teach our kids respect and fairplay with such absolute nonsense such as these two. No one should go to any of this teams games anymore. Teach these people a lesson about decency and correct punishment for their foolish actions. The coach should be stripped of any hall of fame notations too. What a bad representative for the good game of hockey.

When a brawl breaks out and a goalie skates the length of the ice to fight the other goalie, whom he's had no reason to be antagonistic towards, is the best (or worst) example of stupidity among hockey players.

Oh, and yeah, players are really manly when they pull the sweaters over their combatant's head so as to blind them.

And, yes, I'm sure this is all part of "The Code", whatever that is. All of which proves "The Fact": A lot of people in hockey are simply stupid.

If the game seeks to be one that teaches sportsmanship and fair play then why all the debate? What happened was clearly NOT an act of sportsmanship and fair play and so it falls on the league to say how far off expectations and rules the infractions are. Is anyone suggesting these two have not acted like morons and deserve something reasonable hardsh? Is anyone suggesting you want your kids watching this and saying..this is how the game is played? (seems some are on here) My point is, look at the league at this point...not these two and ask, is the punishment just. To me the answer is no...they both need it far harsher...but then I don't run the league. As long at the league lets these things go with wrist slaps, people will go elsewhere. My disposable dollars go to support games where sportsmanship and skill are what I show up to see...not the WWF.

"I'm not saying it's right, it's just a reality."

How about saying it's wrong?

If you have nothing to say then don't write an opinion piece.

Patrick Roy is not a good coach,he should get a life,I think he is a hot head and it appears his son was showing off for his dad.Is son probably will never make the nhl so what does he do he picks a fight with someone who clearly did not want to fight.Someone should sue them both

I have never been a Patrick Roy fan. No one can argue with the stats and acheivments and I am proud that a Canadian was able to do those things but I just wish it wasn't him that did it. He has always been been a quick tempered baby and now this is being passed down to his son and it is really to bad. I hope Jonathan isn't a circus show for the rest of his life.

This was assult and he should be charged as a criminal. What a poor excuse of a player to do this. Terrible example for young players. 7 games out what a joke.

I agree 1000% completely with MIKE from Albert
....posted March.25-2008 @ 02:21\
and my kids will most likely never watch such type hockey again.....................
David Fox

I never had a big problem with the minimum fighting that inevitably breaks out in hockey because it is a full contact sport. Where both combatants contribute to the provocation than fine, it will happen. However, Jonathon Roy's performance was pure brainless and apparently, supported by his father. There have always been fights in hockey but Johathon Roy's case, that wasn't a hockey fight, that was outright criminal assault! The idea of a loose canon like his father coaching in the NHL makes me think it's time for me to start focusing on some other sport. If you want to see what real hockey is about watch guys like Sidney Crosby. We don't need these clowns!

The QMJHL has just proved that it WILL tolerate any on ice action with it's suspension of the Roy's, what a joke.7 games for a second string goalie (who couldn't stop a beachball,stats prove this),the rest of the year and more of next year would have made more sense.P Roy has done nothing for junior hockey but give it a bad name, it's guys like him who make me sick,time for anger management boys.Maybe Bobby Clarke will draft JR, he likes marginal cheap-shot players(ie.Steve Downey)

I think Patrick was a terrific goalie and would probably make a good coach but he needs to muzzel himself. He made a fool of himself in Moncton and has always had a bad temper and cannot take any critism and certainly hasnt been a role model as far as being a man who makes good judgements and that is probably whyhis son did what he did just following in his old mans footsteps. As far as the suppentions went Im not sure because does anyone remember how Team Canada brawled with russia and what happened there.

This incident is confirmation for me that Patrick Roy is the biggest EGOMANIAC ever to lace up a pair of skates.

Is that his fault? Partly, but it is also the fault of the NHL - which takes these young kids and throws ridiculous amounts of money at them to chase around a piece of frozen rubber!

Then, when the talented ones get noticed, they are placed on pedestals and worshipped like gods!

Yes, Patrick Roy was probably one of the greatest goalies to ever play in the NHL. But it is also no secret that he was probably the most egotistical and self-centred player in history as well.

Throw in his famous 'bad temper' and make him a Major Junior coach and what you get is the biggest disservice to young aspiring hockey players today and a blight on hockey in Canada.

What's unfortunate is that this will probably make him a hot property when NHL teams go looking to replace their coaches at the end of this season.

What's most scary is that there are coaches in arenas in small town Canada who are jsut as bad - they just don't get caught on tape...

I can't believe people think it is good to fight. I was a ref in minor league hockey and nowhere in the rule books did I see it was ok to fight.

Hockey is rough, yes. Hockey has contact, yes. And what makes hockey fun to see is a legal check that is both hard and fast. When goons like this go on it only causes more people to loose interest.

I have a few American friends who don't want their kids to watch hockey or be involved in hockey because of the fighting. And it all happened since the Bertuzi event.

Canada better clean up its act or it will loose its premier place in hockey. Just to give you a hint, look at the roster of the Canadiens. There are 13 non-Canadians, and 10 Canadians. That should tell you something!

This was so embarrassing to watch, I could hardly sleep knowing that I had not voiced my opinion sooner. And what about the so called "punishment" that was handed down? this is more of a vacation than anything. 5 games for a coach that should be nowhere near a bench and a measly $4000 dollars? P.Roy probably laughed along with his son at this as he pulled the money from his sons piggy bank. Then the 7 games and the $500 fine to Jonathan? is this some kind of a joke? Fingering the crowd, making a mockery of an interview and then basically assaulting the other goaltender and others? where is the great sport of hockey headed? you want to see players like this in the NHL someday? all I know is I think both this "child" and his father may be the ones who need a beating and I think the penalty that was handed out is an absolute joke and the lhjmq should be ashamed that they even have these losers in the league. Flared tempers are not an excuse, especially at this level of hockey

Fighting, of any kind, should be banned from hockey at all levels, right from midget and junior all the way to the NHL. In my opinion it takes away from the sportsmenship of the game.

I would hope, that the majority of the Remparts fans are embarassed about the Roy's actions. What occurred last weekend was nothing to be proud of. I remember the gooning that went on in the playoffs here in Moncton when the Wildcats were constantly on Sidney Crosby. I was not proud of the team. I was embarassed. As many have said here, I don't mind a scrap between 2 willing combatants. As far as the reaction of the other goalie, I think he was completely taken off guard. He was probably thinking we'll just hold onto each other's jerseys and waltz around. Which is often the case for goalies. When Roy assaulted him, it was just that. The league should be embarassed, the team should be embarassed and the fans should be embarassed. It was an embarassing moment for hockey.

Jonathan Roy should be charged with assault and banned from competitive sport for life for his outrageous behaviour.

Fighting does not have to be a part of hockey anymore than it has to be a part of Basketball, Baseball or any of the dozens of team sports that are played with skill and sometimes speed in which a fight is a rareity. It was the fights that caused me to stop careing about hockey, and it is the fights that assure that the NHL will continues to take a back seat to other sports and generates TV ratings below that of Poker. What a sad fate for a great game.

I have been involved with hockey for over 25yrs and after watching the "Roy's" in action understand why most of the civilized world find our game deplorable , they should both be banned from the sport for a year to set an example!

With incidents like this, weak consequences from the QMJHL, and attitudes like Tanner, Graham and the author of this article, it's no wonder that hockey is described as "angry Canadians with no teeth".

My comment is that Patrick Roy should be banned from any involvement in any hockey period... I would go to the extent of barring him from attending his son's games as he his an uncontrollable spoiled little brat that will never change... so for the better of Hockey in General, ban him from any function whatsoever...he's a disgrace and his status in the hall of fame should be removed for life...his actions to me are just as bad as when Glen Hall the goalie was found to be betting on his hockey games and that is just as bad...so get rid of him...don't give him the time of day and espescially through the media...he gloats for it...shame on you for giving him that attention.

To all who suggest either father or son should be banned from hockey for life: You are a disgrace to proud canadian hockey fans.

How was this any different than what Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore. There was an intent to injure no doubt. It is just that one did not get injured with a career ending injury.. But my point is that there is no difference in this...

Patrick was an arrogant, pompus sack of s--t
when he played and obviously those admirable qualities have been passed on down the family tree.

That's right, if the fans go, it's OK. And, when the fans get bored of men beating on one another with their fists, they can bring in chairs, or ladders. Then, when the winner is proclaimed, we can give him a big ol' belt.... Oh, I'm sorry, we are talking WWF?

I stopped watching NHL years ago when the focus shifted from hockey to big $$$. Whatever you want to call it these days, it ain't hockey. Just have the strength of character to call it what it is. Fittingly, many hockey halls are called 'colliseum'.

Bravo, Jeff. Screw the fans, screw the sport, screw the traditions, screw the young kids with passion for hockey. These days it's all about draining the last bit of "disposable sports dollars". What a sellout the NHL has become.

Jonathon Roy was not coming to shake the other goalies hand and discuss who was winning the 10 man brawl going on down-ice. Nadeau should have defended himself or at least tied up Roy. I guess he was hungry - unfortunately he got fed a knuckle sandwich. Sports are very emotional and there will always be fights. If you see someone approaching you with their dukes up, be prepared to defend yourself, man.

Suspensions are in order because this was hardly a fight between two willing combatants. But let's leave it at that and keep the occasional dust-up in the game we love.

French CBC just posted the Quebec Junior league sentence: The coach (Patrick) got five games and the son (Jonathan) got seven games.

In the real world, the punishment would hardly fit the crime but in the world of junior major hockey it’s considered adequate and probably even severe by some.

Let’s not forget that Canadian junior major hockey is nothing else but a form of entertainment on par with pro wrestling and ultimate fighting. It presents a violence oriented form of hockey.

No wonder more and more talented young Canadian players choose the US college road over Canadian junior major hockey. Where would like your son to play this beautiful game?

Finally, the Quebec league is considered to be hte least rough of the three junior major leagues with the Western league earning the grand title for offering the toughest brand of hockey!

Oh joy!

And they wonder why hockey doesn't catch on. Nothing will happen again. Because it's Roy he and the deduction will get a slap on the wrist and be sent home smiling. Cool sport....I thought they were going to serious about this kind of stuff?

This talk of banning both Roys from hockey forever is foolish. Jonathan should be suspended. Patrick should be suspended for as long or longer if it can be shown that he encouraged the attack. Keeping them both away from the sport? Ridiculous.

The true test of a man is if he learns from his mistakes. Suspend them. Reprimand them. Make it known that any further infractions will not be tolerated and may lead to harsher sanctions. Patrick Roy is known to have a bad temper. Has he ever been forced to acknowledge and accept a punishment for this? They threatened him with charges in relation to his attack on Pierre Cardinal last year, but nothing really came of it.

Give both him and his son a chance. Jonathan gets punished for attacking his counterpart. Patrick gets punished if he encouraged it. Both are made to understand that their actions were unacceptable.

Some people are incorrigible (paging Chris Pronger), but many learn to keep their anger to themselves or at least channel it in a more constructive way. Get them some counseling. Try helping them first before they're simply tossed out.

Taking the team out of the playoffs? Stupid. Many players on the Ramparts have done nothing wrong.

A strong, measured, reasonable response is needed here, not knee-jerk bannings that would simply be overturned on appeal.

Patrick Roy has to stop flip-flopping on issues. Wasn't it the same goalie who demanded a trade from Montreal because his coach wouldn't pull him from a crappy game? I wonder if his son would like to do the same?
At least with a seven game suspension, Jonathon can rehab his Chicoutami fingers.

I doubt Patrick wanted his son to pummel the other goalie 300 times to the head the way he did. This incident is an embarasment. In what way or form would there be any need for this to happen? 2 positions that are the furthest away from any contact. This young Roy is a first rate goon. Doesn't do much for Canadian hockey

No, the Colisée Pepsi will not be filled "with the type of people who stop at highway accidents to see the carnage". Most of the tickets were sold last week. The Colisée is almost always full for the Québec-Chicoutimi games (with fans from both teams). And there are always tons of families with kids. What Jonathan did is horrible, but the kids and families that will be there tonight will be there to cheer for their team, to cheer for Esposito, ... Yes there will be some morons at the game, but it won't be the majority! We have a league for the ones who only like fights in hockey (semi-pro), but Remparts and Sags fans are hockey fans who disagree with what happened Saturday!

Lord Patrick has clearly not changed much since his playing days. He still thinks that the sun shines out his rear end.

I think he would have a very exciting and short career as an NHL coach. His head is way too big. It was bad enough that he thought he was the most important part of the team as a player; imagine that from a coach!

This is why hockey is now garbage. Both Roy's should receive lifetime suspensions and Jonathan should be charged with assault.

IMHO:

Patrick Roy has assured himself an NHL coaching position.

Patrick Roy has assured The Remparts a sell out for the rest of the season.

Jonathan Roy will eventually cost The Remparts the series.

Jonathan Roy, someday will see the inside of a courtroom,

Just like Dad

This is very infortunate and very bad judgement by Patrick. I always thought that being such a great goalie during his tenure in the NHL, he would make a good coach...WRONG! I agree that Patrick, his son Jon and any other member of the Roy family should have a lifetime ban from sports!! Period!

Yes, the Colisee Pepsi will be filled tonight. But not by hockey fans. The arena will be filled with the type of people who stop at hiway accidents to see the carnage. They won't care how the incident came about or how to stop future incidents, but only attend in the hope it will continue.
This is not hockey. Messr's Roy should be both banned from the " sport ".

I think that the league should deal with this very serious incident. I think that a lifetime ban from organized hockey for the young Roy and a lifetime ban from coaching for Patrick Roy should be applied, if there is evidence he encouraged the attack in any way. And I think the team should be eliminated from further playoff play this year. Perhaps then players will realize that there are real consequences to unprovoked violent assaults. Patrick Roy the coach, as mentioned in the article, showed poor and unsportsmanlike actions earlier as a coach, but this incident is a whole new low level.

If Roy motioned his son to go and fight he should be suspended indefinitely.

Although I was not there, I can only imagine what the atmosphere was like. Do you think the people in the stands were sitting in their seats, commenting about how disgusting fighting is in hockey? Or do you think they were booing because their goalie was getting pummelled? I can guarantee that the fans in Chicoutimi would have been cheering on Nadeau if he did the same to Roy as what was done to him. Right or wrong, fighting and the odd act of "goonism" is part of Major Junior Hockey and the fans love it. As for Patrick's chances of landing a NHL job....does the saying not go something like this, "Any publicity is good publicity." See you in the NHL St. Patrick where you will once again be able to turn towards the HAB bench, as you hoist the Stanley Cup as coach of the Avalanche, and tell them what a mistake they made!