Two logical choices for Leafs' long-term GM
Tuesday, January 22, 2008 | 12:13 PM ET
The Leafs have gone back in time and re-hired Cliff Fletcher in a Wayne Embry-esque way to clean up the current mess that is the Toronto Maple Leafs.
(By the way, we'll have Mr. Fletcher on Hockey Night in Canada Radio today at 4:15 p.m. ET (Sirius ch 122) as well as Gord Kirke - the sports lawyer hired by Richard Peddie to assist in finding a new Leaf Prez & GM - at 4:30.)
But the question of full-time replacement for the general manager position is an interesting one and one that has many layers to it by nature of the market that we’re talking about: Toronto.
My suggestions are not sexy, showbiz-type names like Brian Burke or Lou Lamoriello, but rather two names that fly under the radar to all but the most rabid of hockey fans. However, both are very highly respected around the league.
Jim Nill: Currently the assistant GM and vice-president of the Detroit Red Wings. Considering that the Leafs need to rebuild - not reload - this is a team that needs to be built through the draft.
Yes, there will be painful years ahead for the blue and white therefore the team needs a GM that will make the best of a bad situation. Enter Nill. Detroit has the reputation around the league as getting the most out of the draft, that’s not exactly a secret (look where they picked Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk). Nill has also worked as a scout for the Ottawa Senators and has overseen all the Detroit Red Wings drafts since 1995. Nill comes in with three Stanley Cup rings (the current Leafs management collectively has zero) and most importantly, in working closely with Detroit GM Ken Holland, he understands the concept of not being afraid to surround yourself with good hockey people, most of whom are smarter than you. Nill is my first choice.
David Conte: A long shot since Lou Lamoriello will not let him go but if I’m making my GM wish list Conte is right near the top if not at the zenith. He’s spent 24 seasons with the New Jersey Devils working mainly as the director of scouting and executive vice-president of hockey operations.
Conte, much like Jim Nill, has a reputation as being able to pick out the diamonds in the draft and more importantly help develop those assets in the minors. The Devils (much like the Wings) have not had high draft picks in the immediate past, but are still able to pick and develop blue-chip prospects. They can thank David Conte for that.
Other candidates for me would include Rick Dudley (Chicago), David McNabb (Anaheim) and Bob Murray (Anaheim).
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Comments
mikeo
like your selections for gm..dont want tosee brian burke//see vancouver...john muckler ..i thought him and cliff were sharing trhe same room at the older persons home..why is bryan murray not being thrown in here he has built winners up to the cup final wherever he has been...as a person of age i really resented peddie leaning over and patting cliffs arm when he dared to say something not scripted..it reminded me of my grandcildren patting grandpas arm when i ask them to grab the glen livett before grandma comews back in the room...i am surprised that nobody has commented on that...i have maintained that the leafs should have been blown up after the cam janssen hit on kaberle and the team reaction to that...also if maurice had of started toskala at the first of the season like his gm wanted the leafs would be much higher
Posted February 4, 2008 11:25 AM
Jean-Marc
Ottawa
I know he's old, and he might not be a long term GM, but they should put a bid for John Muckler - he did good with the Sens last season, although many blame him for not making a good last minute trade to get that one key missing for the Sens.
I also have to echo some of the comments here that Canadian media seem to be 10 times more insterested in the Leafs failures than in the successes of the other Canadian NHL teams.
Posted January 25, 2008 04:06 PM
irving
mississauga
To who every
Could someone tell me why the all the sports networks in Canada ,all they talk about is the leafs.It is very sicking for non leaf fans.With 6 nhl teams in Canada ,if you watch the sportsnet,tsn or cbc its leafs leafs
leafs like the other 5 teams don't exist .
Irving
Posted January 24, 2008 10:36 AM
jay
Hiring Jesus wouldn't help the leafs!
Posted January 24, 2008 09:24 AM
Michael Morrison
The Leafs have nothing left. Fans need to stop dreaming and imagining they can lay down a marble floor in their corrigated tin shack of an organization. They need to rip everything down and start again. Plan to develope for the future. The Flames missed the playoff for 7 years straight. If the Leafs are serious about rebuiding, they should say so and fans should sit back, relax and enjoy the process. Only when the whole organization is committed to a long term, hockey smart plan, should fans allow themeselves to hope for a brighter Leaf future.
Posted January 23, 2008 09:22 PM
LeafManInRoch
Wayne N. Shuster has it right. The separation of duties is for Fletcher to set the direction for the upcoming trade deadline and draft. Gord Kirke along with Richard Peddie are in charge of finding the permanent GM. Does anyone here see this as a real change?
Loran: Last time I looked every TV and radio had an OFF button. No one is forcing you to watch or listen to/about the Leafs.
Also last time I looked there are Leaf fans in every NHL arena, often nearly outnumbering the home team. Heck, I even met a guy sporting a really nice POTVIN sweater in Bloomington, IL, in the IHL recently. We may be suffering, but we are loyal.
Posted January 23, 2008 05:21 PM
danny
Vancouver
Interesting choices..Hard to disagree with the quality of talent that has emerged from the Devils and Red Wings farm system..
These teams have consistently been near the top of the standings in points and are almost always in the playoffs.
But the Maple Leafs have demonstrated that they only draft soft defencemen, goal scorers who top out at 40-50 points a season and make excellent 3rd line players and then make a big splash in the off-season and overpay for UFA's just because in the final year of their contract, they put out to spike their numbers.
Posted January 23, 2008 03:13 PM
newfie leaf
nl
rebuilding should start immediately.at the deadline deal sundin,mccabe,tucker,kabina.this would also help them finish last and get a high pick this year.please dont give those guys away for nothing mr.fletcher
Posted January 23, 2008 02:02 PM
Matthew
toronto
It's funny that the entire world has to tell MLSE what to do before they do it.
All season, and in fact for years, people and the media have been telling them to replace the GM. After 3 + losing seasons, they finally do.
They're really on the ball.
Posted January 23, 2008 01:30 PM
Steve P.
Edmonton
Wow it is simply laughable to read suggestions like Burke, Holmgren, and Lowe. Are Toronto hockey fans that delusional that they think current GMs would leave their jobs to take the helm of a disaster like the Leafs? GM of Toronto isn't the glamour job of the league anymore - why would a guy like Brian Burke leave the defending cup champions, a great owner, excellent depth in the system, and beautiful weather in Anaheim, to move to Toronto and work for MLSE?
Posted January 23, 2008 12:50 PM
Dave Brown
What's that saying, all the MONEY in the WORLD will not buy happiness, true love,nor Lord Stanley's Cup. You have to EARN it and Sundin aside what do they have. Nothing!
Posted January 23, 2008 12:40 PM
Nish
Toronto
Firstly, MLSE need to step out of the way for any change to even have a chance of taking place. Secondly, hire a GM that has the guts to face off against the management, team, media, and fans. Thirdly, fans need to stop thinking of the playoffs for the next five years or so and let the GM do his job. This is the only way that the Leafs will ever have a chance to make something of themselves.
Posted January 23, 2008 12:12 PM
Rob Christian
Kingston
With the CBA being what it is, why not Bob Goodanow.
Posted January 23, 2008 12:04 PM
Ted
Toronto
Toronto needs development and patience. There were signs in the late 80s that it was happening, and as usual the management got greedy.
Farm teams. Draft picks. Skip the guys wanting to "come home" and play for the blue and white.
Cliff can do many things, but I'm not sure even he can get the teachers and Peddie to keep their mouths shut.
Posted January 23, 2008 11:53 AM
Shawn Lanigan
Orangeville
There is a fellow that would do an amazing job and he is already in the organization and as knowledgeable and respected as anyone you will fine ............Darryl Sittler.
Posted January 23, 2008 11:27 AM
Larry MacDoug
Ottawa
I think its time they consider, someone like Wendall Clarke, someone that knows the club and has been there through the roller coaster years.
Posted January 23, 2008 10:57 AM
Wilson Bant
Toronto
The leafs need a GM who understands the new "Salary Cap" NHL, and has an understanding of the CBA and the clauses within it to make themselves better at any cost.
Kevin Lowe is my first choice by a mile.
Posted January 23, 2008 10:46 AM
Loran
We, here in the West have been subjected to, the Maple Leafs inept so called hockey for far too long. Not once, but several times a week. We do have teams in the west that play this game also, some are actually quite good. Most of the time, when the Leafs are playing, these teams are actually blocked out. The last time I was interested in the Leafs was in 1967. I will never be able to inderstand how people can spend their hard earned money(lots of it) on a product that produces nothing. It's time for people to wake up. The only way things will change is when people quit supporting this team and force the powers to be, to go after quality players. The only good player on the Leafs is Mats Sundin, and he's is quickly getting to be past his prime. I was hoping the Leafs would disappear, somehow, but that isn't possible. Starting with this new GM is starting a new recycling program all over again. These new so called GMs are not employed for a reason. THEY CAN'T DO THE JOB....DUHHHH. Hopefully, we will no longer be subjected to Leafs torture anymore.
Posted January 23, 2008 10:18 AM
Pete
Vancouver
The Leafs would be crazy to promote from within. If the candidates in question couldn't win a Cup before, what makes them qualified to build a winner now? One of the Leafs' greatest faults is their sense of nostalgia, which only means something if associated with winning. Start thinking outside the box because the last 40 years have been repetitive. and mostly painful.
Posted January 23, 2008 02:08 AM
Glen
saskatoon
Why would you go back, even if it's on an temporary basis. Send some new messages to the fans, scouts and everybody in the organization....we are going a different direction!!! They keep doing the same garbage over and over, get out of the rut!!! Oh well, all the more reason to say GO HABS GO!!!
Posted January 23, 2008 12:35 AM
Paul
I kinda feel sorry for JFJ. It is no wonder he has not been productive as a GM, he has had a whole gaggle of wanna-be hockey people (MLSE) interfering and roadblocking and second-guessing his every move, vetoing lots of would-be deals I'm sure we never heard about. And for those of you who think its going to get better AT ALL, let alone the next 10 years, your mistaken, as the real problem (MLSE) is still there in the hallowed halls. Someone with balls needs to come in and shut up all the suits who don't care about Lord Stanley's mug, but rather balance sheets and profit margins. Until that happens, you won't see S.F.A change. Better yet, that Russian dude, the oligarch, needs to buy the Leafs, because he wants to own a WINNING pro sports franchise. He already has all the money. Get the Teacher's Pension fund OUT of hockey!! Until then, Leafs fans need to boycott the awful product that MLSE is trying to shovel at us. REVOLT!!!!
Posted January 23, 2008 12:30 AM
Frank
Fletcher should explain to Sundin that because of the new structure of the NHL (post lockout) that there is no way they can win the cup in a time frame that would allow Sundin to get his name on it. Get a list of teams that he would be willing to play for and trade for the best young prospects they can get. Also, because the Leafs can only spend a fixed amount to the players they should use some of their vast profits to find a GM that has a proven track record of scouting, drafting and developing young players for the future and offer him whatever it takes to get him. Build for the future.
Posted January 22, 2008 11:23 PM
Wayne N. Shuster
Please tell me if I have this straight:
-- nobody at MLSE knows how to hire a general manager, so they hired a general manager who will hire another general manager
-- the first general manager will be gone in 19 months, leaving, again, nobody at MLSE who knows how to hire a general manager
-- so if the second general manager doesn't work out they'll have to find a third general manager to hire a fourth general manager
Is that about right?
Posted January 22, 2008 10:02 PM
OB
Canada
Back to the future again...............
Posted January 22, 2008 08:03 PM
George Blount
Milton,On.
First things first. Peddie has to go ! He is responsible for the team and its performance and he hired John F and probably was involved in what he did while GM
Posted January 22, 2008 07:46 PM
Fred
PA
How about Paul Holmgren of the Flyers?
Posted January 22, 2008 06:42 PM
Moe
Toronto
Does Cliff Fletcher not realize that Risebrough and Gilmour aren’t in Calgary anymore...let's all celebrate the 41 years without the cup! Furthermore, now is the time for Detroit to strike....
Sundin to Detroit for......
Darryl Bootland
Derek Meech
1st in 2008/09
1st in 2010/11
come on Kenny, get it done as it appears Fletcher hasn't been in a rink in ten years.
Posted January 22, 2008 05:35 PM
Stewy
Too bad for JFJ, but I wouldn't mind receiving the same amount of pay for the same productivity!
The strategy at this point should be for the Leafs to suck as badly as Calgary did between 96 and 03 and then rebuild. I mean who sucked worse than they did and look at them now. The Leafs would have to miss the playoffs for six seasons in a row to be able to match the draft picks that Calgary generated in that time. Do you remember those years, John from Calgary, or do you still have slivers in your butt from jumping on the Flames bandwagon??
Anyway, maybe the solution is to bring back GORDO!! Apologies, Gordo, we all know you're made of leathery stuff after surviving those Ballard years.
Over and out from Leaf-land North.
Posted January 22, 2008 05:00 PM
Gerry
Montreal
As a Habs fan, this is comical & I must admit enjoyable. The Toronto media has known about this for weeks - how does that happen? The best solution for the Leafs would be hiring Scotty Bowman, in a Colangelo (Raptors) type scenario. The owners in Toronto need to stay clear of hockey decisions & the team in general.
Posted January 22, 2008 04:58 PM
David Albert Newman
Winnipeg
Get an experienced GM who knows how to balance veterans with young talent--both are needed--and who knows what a good goaltender is. Brian Burke indeed does come to mind.
Also, throw in some tradition by having Doug Gilmour, Dave Andreychuk, and Grant Fuhr round out the coaching staff--by replacing the current coaching staff--and viola, you have the possibility of a winner.
Posted January 22, 2008 04:13 PM
Big Bad John
Ottawa
Brian Burke would be a perfect fit for Leafs GM! After all his ego is about as big as all Toronto and its followed closely by the egos of the Leafs management, the Leafs media and the Leafs fans!
A match made in hockey ego heaven!(aka Toronto)
Posted January 22, 2008 04:00 PM
Alvin T
Winnipeg
Jim Nill sounds good to me. What is needed in a bad way is to put the best people in the front office - professional people who can and will turn the Leafs into a winner. The front office needs to be filled with solid people - once this happens, the draft picks will come and the players will respond.
Posted January 22, 2008 03:26 PM
Kilgore
BC
I am a bleed blue Leafs fan. We need to get a GM as was previously stated that will show patience and stick to the plan. Trading first rounders and prospects for once decent veterans sucked then and still hurts. Trading Boyes for Nolan? Wow what a bad one. First rounders for rental players like Glen Wesley? WOW. We need a GM that can build through the draft and keep them.
Posted January 22, 2008 03:12 PM
Allan Hovi
I was disappointed to see MLSE fire JFJ. I gave up on the Leafs in 1975 and since then have cheered for whoever is playing against them. Ferguson should have been treated exactly the same as most of his signings: pay him too much $$ on a long-term contract and hope and pray for a miracle. Message to MLSE: the only thing that will work is to blow up the entire organization and start with a clean slate - something that has only been 40 years coming.
Posted January 22, 2008 03:07 PM
Rob Griffith
I agree with James, below. The biggest trade that should occur is media coverage... from a losing team to one of Canada's winning teams.
Posted January 22, 2008 02:59 PM
James
Calgary
Will they plan the parade now...or should they put up a three ring circus for the second part of the funniest show on earth? Hey Leaf fans, come join a winner organization... Go Flames Go!
Posted January 22, 2008 02:10 PM
Todd Slaney
Iqaluit
Hiring the all mighty Jesues as GM won't help this team MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!
Posted January 22, 2008 02:08 PM
Michael Hendricks
The sexy choice has to be Brian Burke - very complimentary words about Leafs brass last week (including Richard Peddie). With Anaheim up against the cap and having the very capable Bob Murray as asst. GM, the Ducks may allow Burke to talk with Toronto in hopes of getting some top draft picks in the coming years as compensation. Plus, Brian Burke is the best sound bite there is in the NHL these days, and Toronto loves a good sound bite. It would be a good fit, and I'm sure Gary Bettman would love to see Brian Burke as the face of the NHL's most lucrative franchise. Burke also loves an audience, and the biggest audience is in Toronto, not Anaheim. Who else could work in such a dysfunctional organization?
Posted January 22, 2008 01:57 PM
Neil Scott
Ottawa
The problem with the leafs recently has not been particularly bad drafting its the philosophy that we trade our future for the present. IE brad boyes/owen nolan ie tuuka rask/andrew raycroft...The leafs need a plan and stick to it. Trading away assets like draft picks for aging veterans was ok when there was no salary cap and you could sign guys as the highest bidder but we don't live in that world anymore.
Posted January 22, 2008 01:39 PM
Kingpin04
the best replacement for the beloved maple leafs is senator KEN DRYDEN, or maybe mrs lindros, she controlled all her kids and the quebec nordiques...........!
Posted January 22, 2008 12:59 PM