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Marc-Andre Fleury is no Patrick Roy... yet


Posted in 2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs Blog
Posted on June 3, 2008 09:29 PM |

PITTSBURGH – It's going to take more than one Stanley Cup and a few hundred other big playoff saves before Marc-Andre Fleury deserves comparison to Patrick Roy as a money goaltender.

Saint Patrick no doubt would be insulted at having Fleury's name mentioned with his based on one triple-overtime Cup final win. Roy not only made 63 saves in a triple-OT win in Game 4 of the 1996 finals to win the Cup against Florida, he won the Cup as a rookie in hockey's ultimate pressure cooker, Montreal.

But, what Fleury did Monday night (and into early Tuesday morning) in Detroit for his Pittsburgh Penguins no doubt would get a nice "Atta boy" from Roy (but that would probably be it from him. Roy dished out praise like Mr. Bumble dished out the gruel to Oliver Twist).

Fleury's 55 saves was the dominant statistic from Pittsburgh's improbable Game 5 win, and now he has a chance to take the series back to Detroit for a seventh game with another win Wednesday here at Mellon Arena.

Pittsburgh coach Michel Therrien played with Roy with Montreal's top farm team, Sherbrooke, in 1984-85. Therrien was asked about any similarities between the two he's noticed. But Therrien, showing more media savvy as this series has gone along, wouldn't put that kind of pressure on his 23-year-old. Therrien did allow, though, that without Fleury, he would likely have been making plans for the rest of the summer on Tuesday.

"What are you going to say about it? He made some key saves after key save in overtime, giving us a chance to hang in there. They were pushing the envelope pretty big in the third period. And a few times in overtime. And he gave us a chance to win. He was just phenomenal," Therrien said.

When you win, the knights of the keyboard say more good things about you. After some harsh early-series criticism, most of it deserved for his gripes about the officiating, Therrien has been more composed on the press podium, and it seems to be translating some to his team. That was a real character win in Game 5, and Therrien won kudos for some of his line matchups and defensive substitutions.

Therrien will gladly take the praise instead of brickbats, but he isn't getting carried away.

"You know what, it's not about me. It's about my team. It's about my players, and it's about our plan," he said. "So I respect opinions from people. I've got my own, and we've got our plan, and we're going to stick to our plan."

Gonchar probable

Sergei Gonchar, who pulled a Willis Reed/Kirk Gibson/Bela Lugosi rise from the dead in the third OT, is likely to play in Game 6, Therrien said.

Gonchar certainly will see his stock as a "gamer" rise from what he did. Gonchar has had a fine reputation over the years, but was seen as soft by some critics. No, playing the point on a four-minute power play isn't quite Bobby Baun territory, but it certainly was an inspiration to his team.

"After the hit to the boards, he was not in a position to compete five on five. He had some back spasms," Therrien said. "And the medical staff worked on him the rest of the game, and they came to see us before the third overtime that he felt pretty good."

Therrien also said Ryan Malone should play, despite a possible broken nose.

Babcock still positive

Detroit coach Mike Babcock said it was certainly a disappointment to come within 35 seconds of his first championship, but that he'd rather be in his shoes right now than Therrien's.

"We're up 3-2 in the series. We have to win a game. I think it's a great thing to be on the road right now. We've closed out every series so far on the road," he said.

Said Wings three-time Cup winner Kris Draper: "We're a confident team. We're a confident group. We feel that we can come into another team's building and be successful. And obviously, all three times when we closed opponents out, it's been in another team's building. And I think that's a great, great characteristic to have.

"So here we go again. We would have loved to have been able to wrap things up, but that wasn't the case. And we got another crack at it. Like Raf said, we're still up 3 2 in the series, and we have another opportunity to close Pittsburgh out."

Said Nick Lidstrom: "I think the mood of the team was fairly good today coming over here on the flight. And guys know that we have to be prepared. And I think everybody didn't get a whole lot of sleep last night. It was a late game. We were up fairly early, too. So it will be a good day today to rest, get a good night's sleep and be ready to go tomorrow again."

OT good for ratings

Game 5 did one of the highest ratings in the U.S. in history. The game pulled a 4.3 overnight rating on NBC, a 79 per cent increase from Game 5 last year.

Quit whining

There was some predictable whining this morning in the Detroit media about a penalty deciding the outcome. It's always a no-win situation for the NHL on this matter; If Paul Devorski doesn't blow his whistle at what was an obvious high-stick by Jiri Hudler on Rob Scuderi in the third OT, the NHL would be ripped for "not making the calls consistently." But when the call was made and the Penguins scored, at least one Detroit columnist today cried foul.

"The problem was that special teams should never determine the outcome of a battle as spirited as Game 5. The referees should never dictate an overtime game, but that's precisely what happened Monday night, uh, rather Tuesday morning," Drew Sharp wrote in the Detroit Free Press.

In other words, throw out the rulebook in an overtime game and let any goon do what he wants to anybody. Makes sense to us.



Comments

Quit whining? Therrien has lobbied the refs all series, except when they win. Babcock hasn't said one thing to the refs until this game. The penguins were the ones guilty of 'obstruction', Datsyuk and Zetterberg had to tow penguins thru the zone all night long.

The high stick was legit. That had to be called. The 2 goaltender interference penalties did not need to be called. They weren't called all night, why would they all of a sudden be called when the game goes into overtime?

I agree with you there about the penalties in overtime. Regardless of the weight of the call when somebody breaks the rules then they deserve to be penalized for it. If somebody threw the puck in the net with their hands it wouldnt be called a goal because it was overtime penalties should be the same. That is why overtimes are such intense scenarios because it is do or die and discipline is necessity.

Detroit fans are the worst fans in the league. They will always find something to complain about. Hockeytown, HA! That's actually 4 hours up the 401...

The game 5 was the best OT I've seen in awhile. But to try and compare Fleury to Roy is ouright foolessness. Give credit to where credit is due, but Fleury nor any other goaltender will ever compare to Roy as he (Roy) is "Simply The Best". I too had my doubts about the Pen's going this far, but they are a young talented team that truely deserves to be in the Finals against a tough and veteran team like Detroit. I hope tonight's game 6 will be just as good, GO PENS GO

Glad to see Malkin step up with some timely play in game 5. This certainly goes to show that Pittsburgh certainly does have three lines that can burn the opposition.

Malkin stepped up with timely play? Did you watch the game? Every time he touched the puck (except that last time), he gave it away. He's definately skilled, but the way he's been playing lately, I'd drop him to the 4th line, and let players with their heads in the game have the ice time.

As for the whining: somebody will complain about every call or non-call made. That being said, the high stick had to be called. The first interference was border-line. The second one shouldn't have been a penalty.

As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog, Fleury won't be able to hold off the Wings again tonight.

The first goalie interference call wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be -- that was a pretty solid shot to Fleury. The second call was pretty cheap and didn't need to be made. Fact is, Pittsburgh didn't score on either of those plays and didn't even gain significant momentum from the PPs. There was no doubt about the high stick and it needed to be called.

From the other side of the fence, that hooking call on Pittsburgh was a pretty weak call given the blatant obstruction that had been taking place up until that point so Detroit shouldn't complain too hard.

I disagree with lots of stuff you have just posted. I find that you like to put all the players down, which it is very rude. For example, I am a Fleury fan and I thought he played well during the playoffs. I am a goalie, so I can compare. He did let in some soft goals, but your team needs to also score.

Next time you say something bad about a player, think to yourself to see if you can do it any better. If not, don't talk bad

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