Simon's actions can be understood somehow

I usually refrain from posting comments online but after reading the comments here, I simply had to due to the sheer benightedness of some of the people here.

I'm a religious follower of HNIC's CC and, with the exception of Don's comments following the incident in which fans in Montreal booed the American National Anthem in 2003 (a rant which was summarily removed from this website...so much for freedom of speech), Don has only showed pictures of our fallen troops along with pictures of those currently serving while his commentary has been limited to the "we are praying for you" and "come home soon" variety. That's hardly Don pontificating about the virtues of war.

Those of you who hate Don, be honest to yourselves and to the rest of us. You hate Don and want him off the air because his political beliefs contrast with your own and its a heck of a lot easier to silence those who disagree with us than to rationally debate the reasoning behind their argument (this principle also applies to you people who are "outraged" that Ron dared to bring up racism and its applicability to Nolan/Simon).

Thanks so much Mr. Cherry, we absoultey love and appreciate the way you are the only one who has the courage to speak the truth, others are so scared and boring....

Just finished watching "Coaches Corner", Dec 29 2007.
I must tip the hat to both for the best Coaches Corner ever.
Ron that was a perfect job of co-hosting.
Don, way to put the bad previoous week behind you.

I would love to see the outdoor 4 on 4 as well. Could not agree more about that.

Happy New Year to all at CBC and hockey fans everywhere

Mr.Don Cherry my name is Kenny Jukes I`am 32 I used to work at Hamilton specialty Bar.The steel plant was closed then reopened but I will probably never get called back.I made excellent money there all I can find for a job is $10-$12 hour how the hell can anybody live on that kind of money. I have contacted ever level of government and no one has responded.Since last year when I lost my job I have lost 30pounds&I only sleep 2-3 hours a night.I know this issue is not about hockey which I loveyou have your finger on the pulse of the issues and you tell the way it is which I respect. People respect you and listen to you when you talk.It would be greatly appreciated if you could mention the depressing state in Hamilton on Coach`s Corner,emails.radio,any media events GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS REGARDS KENNY JUKES

I found the Dec. 22 installment of CC highly entertaining, even though the tension between Don and Ron was uncomfortably high. I have also been much impressed by the generally civil comments on this board. I do agree with those who feel that Don's flag-waving support of troops is wearing thin as a fixture on CC.

Hi Coach Cherry and God bless you and Mr. MacClean
Mr. Cherry, sir could you please explain two things that you use to teach in Boston,
1- on a two on one we see more and more this played poorly, could you show and tell why it is important if you are the defender on the two on one you always prevent the pass, by taking an angle between the puck handler and the other to limit the angle the goalie has to defend.
But always give the goalie the shooter.
I hear color guys in both the US and yes Canada getting all excited over some very lucky play.
2nd Sir, you use to show a clip of your Dog blue, I think it is important from time to time to show it.
You put blue in front of the net, had a puckhandler behind the net, and said I quote " If he's smart enough not to chase him behind the net why aren't you".
We see this again to much where disapline lacks the basics.
Finaly please keep up the good work on the the correct calling of the state of the game.
I am an old school finish your checks, skate with your head up, and you must pay a price for standing in front of the opponents goal, toaching a goalie, and a star from either team.
This is a correct code, and only made the game respectfull.
This stick against the waist penalty garbage is just that.
I it is a legite hook call it, if they stick check let it go!.
I watched a old time playoff game between Hatford and Montreal, and my goodness Larry Robinson out and out mugged the Whaler player.
Now that is a penalty.
You and all of Canada should know how proud we are of our true cousins to the North, it brings tears to our eyes, there is just no way adequately to say thank you to the brave Canadian troops in Afghanistan.
God please keep Canada Glorious and Free, you KNOW the United States will fight for thee.

What was Don going to say about the benches being on the same side? Where would he like to see them? It was my understanding that they were put side by side because having them across from each other caused more aggression due the players eyeballing one another and pointing.

Too bad that Ron had to interrupt Don about his Chris Simon's story ... I would have liked to get more insight about Don's perspective.

i was just wondering what don's opinion is on that possible european league and weather or not the stanly cup finals should be between the two comparitive leagues
thanks
jean
PS.will the russians win the stanly cup?

Ron should just let Cherry say what he has to say. I have no idea why he intervened and started talking about stuff no one wants to hear about. Cherry makes some good points and you have to let him go, it is after all, Coach's Corner. Cherry was so peeved, he didn't even want to finish it. Ron.. less.. is more...

Don was obviously emotionally charged and wanted to move in a specific direction with his commentary on Dec 23rd and Ron threw him off of the points he wanted to make. It turned into something neither of them thought it would, or should, on a hockey show...talk about race, religion, and politics, with our troops' involvement in overseas conflict. I watch Coaches' Corner because it's thought provoking and interesting. I watch Coaches Corner because you never know what you're gonna get when Don and Ron suit up for battle...but both of them went over the top this time...neither should have used this forum to voice their personal opinions about racism, politics or anything else but hockey...it's Hockey Night in Canada, for crying out loud!!

I also agree this was hard to watch, and Ron should not have side-tracked Don like he did. I do agree w/ Don, Ted Nolan's situation had nothing to do w/ Ted being a native American and everything to do w/ him not getting along w/ Muckler. Simon's situation is the same - he's got a rap sheet a mile long of questionable and reprehensible hits. He deserves everything he's gotten, and it, too, has NOTHING to do w/ the fact that he's a native American. I don't like Ron trying to insinuate perceived inequality/racism in situations where there is none. Don's not racist and neither is the front office of the Buffalo Sabres.

Every issue has two sides I applaud both Ron and Don for speaking their minds... both have points that are valid having said that...I WAS a Fan of Chris Simon.. I no longer am..That type of behaviour has NO PLACE in hockey!!!
It isn't a Race issue it is a Hockey Issue... I love the hard hitting tuff sport of Hockey it's Exciting and Fast Paced... with that kind of Energy you are going to have fights which only (In my humble opinion) adds to the sport. You have to be Tuff to be a Hockey Player...but hitting a man with your blade when he is down.. is just Wrong!!!
as for David Sazuki..leave him alone... the man is Brilliant! :)

What's going on? Don was talking about hockey stuff when Ron cuts in rudely and starts talking about first nations issues.Ron broke up Don's flow of the conversation which was about hockey's uglier side fighting and abusive players.I like to hear Don's experienced insider views on hockey during coach's corner not some stats whiz guy talking about social issues.I wish Don could elaborate fully without Ron talking off subject as usual.Coach's corner is the best time for me to hear about the latest in hockey thanks to Don. Happy Holidays to all.

I live in Florida now and get the hockey package just for HNIC and Coach's Corner. It always entertaining watching Don and Ron pick at each other, hopefully in good fun. As with all conversations between friends, there are subjects that probably should be avoided. Last Saturday's topic was one of those.

I enjoy the tributes to the Men and Women in uniform, and respect the decision to air them. I wish there was more of that here in the States. Whether you are for the causes these people are fighting for or not they are sacrificing at lot, and deserve some extra recognition.

Finally, I really respect both Don and Ron for there commitment to teaching the kids. There is where the future of Hockey lies.

I'll be watching next Saturday night!

Don Cherry has officially lost his mind. Tuomo Ruutu can and will drop the gloves, but that clip is left out. Don must still be upset with Tuomo for undressing 4 Canadian players before scoring in the World Cup's final game.

Hey Don:

That's Vincent Lecavalier pronounced
(Le-Cav-al-yea). If people in Florida can say it properly, why can't you? After all, you are Canadian.

Your comments often fail to show proper respect for French Canadians, First Nation Canadians, and other Canadian minorities.
Come on Grapes, you are better than that. I worry about kids who watch you then learn to adopt prejudices. You are in a position to combat that type of wrong-headed thinking not to promote it.

Be a responsible broadcaster!

In response to TC and those who are jumping at Grapes for expressing his rock em sock em political views, by stating that everyone gets a "fair shake" at playing hockey. If you believe that some sort of affirmative action be somehow applied to youth hockey, than you are at a right to hold that opinion, but to suggest that we jump into creating a racial issue where there isn't one, that's actually quite offensive. Don was taunted into stating his no-nonsense political views in an out of context manner - nothing new. But we all should know that Don is kind-hearted and wants kids all over the country to get a fair shot, regardless of race, at playing the game, and insomuch he has been quite successful. I'm w/ ya Grapes, just let them play.

I agree with Don. This is Canada and everyone has the same "fair shake" if they have the internal desire to make a good life for themselves. It was a good segment until Ron imposed his own distorted views, which no one tunes in to hear, and interrupted an otherwise excellent show.

GOD BLESS DON CHERRY! He speaks his mind (usually is right) and always remembers the troops overseas. As an American Soldier and hockey fan, this boosts my morale tremendously. For a man of such stature in the media to say some of the "politically incorrect" (but true) things he does is refreshing. Mr. Cherry is definitely the Canadian sports version of Bill O'Reilly here in the U.S. Keep up the great work, Coach!

All,
I love Grapes and will continue to watch these segments until either he retires or you people get your way and he's thrown off. Today was the first time I read comments on the show, and never again. Some of you people are so condisending and single minded, you cannot let someone have their own opinion. You dont have to like what someone says, but you have to accept their right to say it. I would think Canadians would be more hip to respecting someones opinion more than most, guess Im wrong.
Keep it up Don. God bless all troops overseas, Canadian and American.

BP

Don

Stick to what you know, and that's hockey. You and Ron are there to provide insight and commentary, DO NOT assume to know the plight of native people. You are not native and don't think you know everything, you don't. Native people have been struggling for years for someone to understand that it is harder to get a fair shake, and Ron sees it but Don could care less. Don would not understand or care to understand, as he has no history with the issue. Don be a real man and take some tours this summer of northern reservations and tell everyone how much the fair shake is. You have the power of medium, use it and then tell Canada on Coach's Corner, the mistake you made. Stand up and be a man.
You are right about Simon he has issues and should have been suspended, but stick to hockey!!

In my opinion, Coach's Corner is always an interesting segment given that it doesn't deviate from its theme, i.e. hockey. And I've always appreciated Ron MacLean's comments, which provide wider perspective on the issues in hand (and a good touch of common sense).

Though I sympathise with our troops, and respect their work, the kind of military promotion (if not propaganda) made by Don Cherry has no place in the middle of a hockey game, not even on the cbc! Respect to the troops, but also to the viewers (who deserve better than a lecture).

Coming back to this particular segment, it was an embarrassment: shame on D. Cherry for the childish and narrow-minded attitude that he showed. I was also baffled to hear his sarcastic comments on Dr Suzuki's environmental warnings (who in passing has a wealth of expertise in his domain, and who has long been devoting himself to the well-being of our future generations). Deviating from a topic is one thing, promoting ignorance is another. The most logical thing to do would be to make public excuses.

I don't want to believe that the cbc is giving carte blanche to D. Cherry to increase/maintain its audience. Unfortunately, once again it feels like the integrity of the cbc — Canada's public broadcaster — is at stake. Mr Cherry, please stick to hockey, because this is where you are the best.

NB Chris Simon deserved more than 30 games.

You don't know how lucky you are to have Don Cherry. Here, we get the sanitized, politically correct, homoginized version of everything. I don't know if Cherry's assessment is right or not, but by God, he gets the conversation going. As long as we dance around the tough issues and pretend that they don't exist, they just fester.

As far as Suzuki, he might be all that and a bag of chips, but Don's right. It's hockey, not saving the world.

I might buy the center ice package just to see Cherry each week.

I am writing with regards to the December 23 airing of Coaches Corner. I understand Don Cherry to be a proud Canadian, as am I. However, to single out - Finnish born Tuomo Ruutu for smiling at Canadian born Chris Neil after a whistle seems very odd. Neil trash talks, taughts, and aggitates every shift and is often commended for being a player that gets under other teams skin - as aggitator. On the clip shown Neil was clearly the aggressor at whistles end. In a very close game, Ruutu was wise not get caught up in Neil's antics by stawing away from taking a selfish and undiscplined pentalty. He simply skated away and smiled which is nothing new to the NHL. So why single Tuomo Ruutu out? It is no secret that Chris Neil is one of Don Cherry's favorites. But if the senario were reversed would those comments made - been brought forth? I think NOT! Ruutu's, Chicago Blackhawks did win that game.

Further more, to categoize Tuomo and his brother Jarko Ruutu as same type of player is grossly inaccurate as well.

Saturday night's CC tried to feature Sid's first scuffle. But it got rather neglected due to the friction between Ron and Don at the time.
Anyway, it seems quite obvious to me that Sid is not impressing Don all that much. Oh well, too bad for Don.

Way to go Don, For all you bleeding hearts out there you have to work hard to get what you want. And sometimes that is not enough to acheive your goals. Thats life! Chis Simon is native and seems to have attained his goals and he worked hard to get there. But He does deserve the suspension. There is racism in this world but not everything about race and the fact Simon is a native has no bearing on this issue. Cherry was trying to sidestep the race issue.

I love ya Don and Ron. Keep up the good work. I watch Saturday night hockey because of you. If the game is a bore (like most Leafs telecasts) I have to wait up until the start of the second period before heading off to bed.

Never a game is missed at our home especially on a Saturday night usually with a room full.
In the past we have always looked forward to Don & Ron (coach's corner) but after this past Saturday night's segment we will no longer watch it, the channel will be changed to something else until the 2nd period starts!I do not know how Ron contained himself that night with all of Dons comments, his ranting and raving which has definately weighed its course in our home was absolutely uncalled for. Yes he does support our troops and loves "those kids out there" but really, he seemed to forget that alot of kids watch Coachs corner and I sure wouldnt want my children listening to his awful comments and more than that I dont like how he conducts himself at all anymore I wouldnt want my kids thinking this is a respectful way to talk and act one little bit.
That said we sure do enjoy Ron hosting the intermission between the 2nd & 3rd periods where a group of men seem to have an intelligent converation regarding the sport of hockey.
I think it is time to get rid of Don Cherry and bring in some new blood to sit beside the gentleman that Ron is!

Don Cherry had a point about retaliation. Guys who keep getting away with things on the ice, don't get severely hurt (not one day off the ice for the injured players that Simon has been suspended for?), know that they can get away with things unless someone steps up and hits them back.. Chris Simon just went too far.

As far as racism. McLean wanted to play the Devil's advocate, and suggest that perhaps the reason Simon does not learn from his constant suspensions is because Simon (and others) thinks that the NHL has suspended him this harshly based on his native heritage. So he ends up coming back again, acting the same way, expecting to be punished severely again just because he's native. That's always a possibility, but really should not be brought up on a 5 minute segment where no one can possibly discuss that view properly.

Oh, and Don? "baby Jesus" wasn't even born on dec 25, and millions celebrated that date prior to christianity and in our days for other reasons.

Don, you're know your hockey stuff, but leave the environment to the people who dedicate their lives to observing it.

To Don: I love coach's corner and watch it every week. However, I was disappointed about you comments concerning Andrew Ference. The work he's doing with the environment is great!

Ron is normally a very astute journalist, although Coaches Corner is really a better example of entertainment than it is of sports journalism. Ron erred in playing the race card simply for the sake of creating a controversy, where the facts regarding Chris Simon presented absolutely no hint of racism. Ted Nolan's situation is circumstantial at best. Ron's comments about aboriginal Canadians perception of getting a 'raw deal' had nothing to do with Chris Simon's latest embarrassing act of violence.
How can Cherry be labelled racist simply because he doesn't think anyone group deserves special consideration or a 'leg up'? What is very telling is that Cherry doesn't really care what the race or ethnicity is of the men and women who serve in the Armed Forces overseas. They are all equally brave, honourable and Canadian to him.

I live in New Jersey and I watch HNIC every week on the cemter-ice package. I watch the intermission for one reason...Don Cherry's Coaches Corner. I agree with grapes, how did this turn into a racial issue. Simon was wrong and is definitely in need of professional help. But how did this turn racial? I never heard that from Cherry last night. Cherry represents something that Bettman and his boys have tried their best to put out to pasture. Old time hockey guys who remember what the greatest sport on earth used to be like. So instead you have guys like the Ruutu brothers getting away with murder. Simon was wrong and he got the proper punishment. But I'm surprised at how many anti-Cherry remarks there are on this site. The guy from Toronto is right...T

I will go to the washroom during the first period and if needed wait until after Coach's Corner. If you don't like Don's comments watch the Leafs and hit the washroom during the 1st intermission. Don says what alot of people are thinking. Not everything in life is about race and I for one am tired of people using that card as an excuse for not getting what they want. Good for Don for supporting our troops.

I am disappointed to think that you, Don Cherry seem to think that native youth in this province have the same opportunity as youth in Southern Ontario, and to "go and get your own fair shake". Take a trip to some of these remote Northern Reserves and tell me what fair shake they have, the homeless in Toronto have more opportunity then these families. I have been to these First Nation Reserves in the North and it is appauling to think that we have people living like this in the province of Ontario. Don, I met you years ago when I played major midget hockey and have been a big fan of Coach's Cornor, but I have lost respect for even though your such a huge supporter of youth in hockey and sports in general. Hopefully in the next segment of HNIC you comment on how you may have spoken out of turn when commenting on Native youth.
Thanks,

It's called "Coaches Corner", which implies that the topic of conversation should be hockey. He shouldn't use it as a soapbox for any non-hockey related matters. What occurs to the photos and well wishes to the soldiers that are killed from June to September, does Don compile them for the new season? His comments of respect and "lest we forget our troops" should be generic to all, not specific to some. Stick to hockey, or give him the stick. Don's leagcy of "too many men on the ice" is apparent in his program; "Coaches Corner" has one too many personalities.

McClean brought up the racism angle. DC just
said go out and work for things. He says it
about everyone . I'm glad he brought up the
Ruutu thing. Simon deserved 30 games,but Ruutu
involvement should have been a disclaimer ,
and ultimately only 10 games. It is too bad
McClean has to flap his chops during Coaches
Corner. He does it enough during the entire
HNIC broadcast. DC was on a roll until Ron
started his yapping. Best part about this
episode was no chat about Leaves . Too bad
West did not get Ottawa/Chicago broadcast.

I am quite amazed at the different reactions people have to this video. It is quite obvious that Ron interrupts Dons' train of thought and his eventual point by bringing up the "native issue" and Simons' 30 day suspension. It was extrmemly rude on Rons part and I dont blame Don for being upset for being put in a situation he did not want to be in. It is his show after all. He simply stated that there is no racial problem in regards to Ted Nolan. Is there? He referred to Dr. Suzuki as the world is falling in guy....well...whether right or wrong....he is!
I also see no problem with his support of our troops in Afghanistan...they watch hockey night in Canada and Im sure they appreciate his support...whether or not you agree with our presence in Afghanistan does not matter, the fact that they are there does and they need our thoughts and prayers.....especially at this time of year.
Peace to all.

Don is absolutely right when he says racism had nothing to do with Ted Nolan not getting hired for so long. Let's just deal with the facts. Ted Nolan tried to go over John Muckler's head to have him fired and probably wanted to be GM of Buffalo himself. So, the old boys club of GMs black balled Nolan. Would you hire someone whose loyalty you couldn't trust? Those are the facts. Great point about the benches. No other pro sport has the teams on the same side of the playing surface. Its a recipe for trouble.
Keep on straight shooting Don!

Why you continue to give Don Cherry a forum to embarrass himself is beyond my comprehension. I stopped watching this segment years ago and have no plans to ever watch it as long as MacLean and Cherry are on.
If Cherry can understand why someone would essential take a knife and try to stab someone then it shows he is out of touch with reality.
Simon should have been kicked out of the league long ago. He is viscious!

Coaches Corner Dec. 22, 2007.
I was dissappointed at the " Hissy Fit " Don Cherry took because Ron McLean had a bit of a commentary on the possible perception of racism in some decisions in the NHL.
Don seems only comfortable with having one sided discussions. Kudos to Ron McLean for tolerating such childish antics.
CHRIS SIMONS' actions on the ice have been dangerous and reckless, there are no excuses for them. If psychological counselling cannot curb such behaviour, he should not be allowed to ever play in the NHL. What if the next time he permanently injures or even kills someone? Would Grapes be okay with that too?

Fans watch HNIC for the game but almost more to watch Coach's Corner. Like or dislike Don Cherry he is the reason we tune in! Last night I wonder if Ron MacLean was suffering from the flu? Where did that come from and what point was he trying to make? Does he want Peter Mansbridge job?

I'm a big fan of Don and Ron. However a lot of his viewers are looking for a way to slam Don and call himm something that he's not.

Don really does care about the down and out, those that fight for our freedom, and yes even those of a different race.

If not "hates natives" so much why would he have such a love for Simon and Nolan? Nolan certainly could have taken a fair deal which is much better than what others get.

If the Bruins fire Julien tomorrow than I suppose that the enitre Boston organization would be deen as "anti French". However if the leafs get rid of someone...they must have just been doing a bad job.

Don,
As usual you are spot on…..you should have been irritated about the racist thing. Ted Nolan is a great coach but he and the GM did not see eye to eye……..so he does not get the job. Simple! I do understand what Maclean was getting at but he was just WRONG. Simple Simon does not have a brain in his head you can’t do that. Ruutu is a little punk and will soon get his beating. Hopefully ruutu gets popped in the mouth and learns to shut his yap.

It's too bad Don went from being that lovable but cranky old uncle to the one who becomes an embarrassment at the Xmas dinner table. He showed a sense of tolerance for Simon but had little of the season's spirit for those who would challenge his opinions (Ted Nolan etc.) Thanks Ron for not backing down.

I just had to watch Coaches Corner today after all the comments being made, and yes I agree with most of them, Don Cherry should be kicked off of CBC for the comments he made on the First Nations, on David Suzuki, that were done on Coaches Corner, if you want to talk about Hockey, like he says, then talk about hockey, don't go into tantrums on troops or politics.

Don Cherry is what's wrong with the CBC, and the establishment gives him his soapbox for his tired, old, act of racism, and ignorance, against anybody but English Canadians Conservatives.

I will not be watching Hockey Night In Canada until that's done.

Don Cherry was on speaking of the issues that he speaks about, hockey and patriotism. He defended Chris Simon by stating some of the facts regarding the incidents that he hs been suspended for. Ron Mclean brought up the racism thing and once again disrupted the agenda in which Don had in mind. He frequently has done this over the years leaving Don the "Goat" once again. We watch this segment to see what Don Cherry has to say regarding his veiws, not what Ron Mclean thinks will rile up the anti-Don veiwers for the 5 minutes he has to express them.

Man, talk about a tough subject Ron and Don....I say forget the whole racism matter, Simon screwed up he knows it, the instigator rule should be taken out so the fighters can fight. Its a game people, we watch so we can be entertained the NHL and Don Cherry are entertaining.....best wishes everyone

Hey Don, dressing like a clown doesn't give you class! Don't forget you're talking about a game, a game, Suzuki talks about something which concerns all mankind. You really should stick to hockey and what you did best, made a living on other people's talent.

Don is really showing his age. He needs to be removed. He was good for a while, but his act has worn thin. Enough about the bloody troops and his friendships with goons....lets get someone who will talk about hockey!

You sure embarassed yourself tonight my friend. You obviously have some racism issues of your own and they keep showing up everytime you speak of anyone who is not English-Speaking Canadians. You always find a way to squash the French, the Europeens and now our First Nation people. Shame on you! If only you had as much common sense as you do hockey sense, you would earn that much more respect from your peers and your fans. Good on you Ron for holding your own from being bullied by Cherry.
If Cherry could support anti-racism as he supports our troops, he would be respected!
Cheers!

This was painful to watch. The more Don spoke, the more he showed the world how ignorant and childish he is. It is obvious that Don was referring more to Ted Nolan and Chris Simon and not to all native peoples. I'd like to think that if it was not brought up in the context it was, he would have recognized that some people do not get a fair shake in life. Nonetheless his message is a good one; regardless of what hand you are dealt in life you need to work hard for your dreams and not let anything stand in your way. Excuses don't get things done.

Don definitely needs to grow up a little and think before he speaks....but then again, would any of us watch if he did?

Oh, sure, Don says "What are we talking about saving the world, let's talk about hockey!" and then goes on to talk about the troops. Again.
Well what's that got to do with hockey, Don?
NOTHING. I'm really sick of Don and his using his air time during hockey games to trump up the troops in a stupid war.
I've enjoyed Coach's Corner as long as it's been on the air, but I've had it with being lectured about war by some redneck. Most people I know hit the mute when Don starts in on the troops. How long must CBC and Hockey Night In Canada be hijacked for war propaganda?
Take a survey, see if regular viewers feel the same way I do.

We again, listed to a guy how is stuck in the past

When Don gets mad, coaches corner is often very entertaining. However Don was wrong to talk about natives and how their lives should be lived. Don Cherry should apologize for his comments. Still a big fan.

I don't doubt that Ted Nolan's suffered a lot of racism - both in hockey and with life in general.

But I was under the impression that he walked away from his head coaching job in Buffalo because be felt "insulted" by John Muckler's refusal to give him an extended contract beyond one year. Am I wrong about that ?

Lots of coaches with better track records than Mr. Nolan's have been fired outright, let alone having a one year option to vindicate themselves. Sounds to me like Mr. Nolan was actually offered a "fairer shake" than many of his less fortunate coaching colleagues. Mr. Nolan could sucked it up, and worked through the year to prove he was well-worthy of an extended contract. Instead, he just walked away from a challenge.

If Ted Nolan says his contract squabble in Buffalo was racist related, then he is - by extension - implying that the then-G.M. of the Sabres (John Muckler) was at least, compicit of some racist conduct. Has he bothered to consider the severe implications of this ?

I agree with Don Cherry. In this case, it sounds more like a management hockey issue between Mr. Muckler and Mr. Nolan than anything else.

not exceptable. 30 games is not enough. this guy has a serious head problem. out of the league for good.

Don, stopping being a baby. Ron raised a legitmate question, and you pouted like a two year old.

I can understand why natives think they are biased against and I don't know the answer, but it seems Don can raise non hockey issues on his soap box, but Ron can't without Don wanting to take his hockey stick and go home.

Grow up.

Larson

Don Cherry is an Canadian Icon. His insightful comments on Chris Simon, could only come from a person who truly understands the game.
His tribute to the reason we have a Christmas holiday was inspiring and much appreciated.
In these days of political correctnes, it truly refreshing to have a honourable man such as Don Cherry on Hockey Night in Canada, to be a shining becon of light and hope. Merry Christmas to you Don, Ron,the men and women in uniform and to the CBC!

This was the most shocking Coaches Corner I ever saw. I'm still in shock today.
Don didn't mention the Leafs once.
Shocking.

It is true that some people don't get a fair shake, but there are many success stories in native communities across Canada. I agree with Ron, but I also agree with Grapes. You have to ignoresome of the crap and just go at it. Simons has a definite problem that he has to look at. As for Suzuki, well, Don, you don't make sense when you say we shouldn't be talking about the environment, just hockey and then show a picture of troops. Stick to the hockey, Bud!

I have in recent years, gone through some major changes in my thinking about Don Cherry. I grew up watching him, always getting a chuckle out of his comments... Often I would agree with his viewpoints which I felt had a definitely unpretentious and self effacing side while still maintaining a charming knuckleheaded-ness.
I now think that he has lost 'it' and should be taken off the air immediately. His offensiveness seems to know no bounds these days; the other night he suggested that native people do not have a harder time getting along in this society or that they should somehow make their own luck. I could have vomited on my television. I have several Native friends who grew up with a hell of alot more difficulty than I ever faced.. Ever. That's not to say that we are not all responsible for lifting our selves up, but c'mon Don... Get your head out of the Fifties or wherever your ugly thoughts come from... These ignorant views have no place on television, let alone in the middle of supposed enjoyment of our national sport.
He has become beyond distasteful.
Finally I find it alarming that CBC allows Mr.Cherry to spout his pro war views in the middle of the game. I support our soldiers in staying alive and coming home as soon as possible. Don appears to blindly support our 'leaders' in getting right behind our American war enthusiasts. These pro war segments have no place in the middle of a game. Does anyone else see this as propaganda? I know our CBC executives do..
I mourn my happy hockey childhood watching Hockey Night In Canada without feeling disgust. Ron, you rock. Don..... You gotta go.
Keep Hockey Night in Canada Don Cherry free and war propaganda free.
A concerned citizen.

Don acted like a spoiled kid on this show...He can't recover when Ron says something sensible that goes against his core values...First nations kids do have a struggle that Don could never imagine...No excuses here for Simon but if he saw 25 games as just another slap among all the other ones in life, its hard to learn from it...resentment, anger, frustration.....Simon's living it.

Like Jeff Christian above, I have never written in before, but I feel the need to let CBC know that I was extremely disappointed with what I saw and heard on last night's Coach's Corner.
My question is, is Coach's Corner the best first intermission segment the Hockey Night in Canada can come up with? Is he really that popular? My feeling is he's had a good run, but it's time to step aside. Last night's show was an embarrassment.

I can't believe everyone is bringing race to this story, just another way of dodging the bullet for all the hockey lovers that dont like how the game has grown. Chris Simon is a product of the "Bettman NHL". NHL built up on a rough type of hockey with a whole bunch of guys like Chris so the game can be sold to the American market. Chris and guys like him go out there and give that intensity that we want whether we like it or not. Unfortunately this marketing strategy is backlashing at the NHL. American teams can't fill their arena's anyways, so now we turn around and try to clean up the game making examples out of a veteran like Simon. I don't understand why 5 to 10 years ago a player can elbow another player to the head and take 10 years out of that persons life and he would only get 2 minutes for roughing, plus it would make the highlights on all the channels. Too bad that a player like Simon has to be made an example of, because what he offers the game doesn't sell anymore. I don't recall Simon hitting another player whether its dirty or not without having a good reason, he definetely acts out of retaliation, which all the NHLers over 35 today are used to. That was the game they grew up playing. It's just simple, fine the teams aswell so they don't load up with physically intense players. Refs aswell have to take more responsibility in the game, especially in a physical game like hockey. Just have to look at boxing and other intense sports, the refs control directly the game and all the competitors have to worry about is winning using their energy and talent. I don't see that in the NHL yet, just see refs giving out penalties to make the game more interesting so it sells.

I don't think that anyone is asking for the native population within Canada to be handed a trip to the NHL on a silver platter. Rather an even playing field is what is being asked for, and rightfully so. In all reality though this issue goes far beyond hockey and HNIC is probably not the most appropriate place for its discussion as Don and Ron are not overly informed in this regards. Maybe they will both do some solid research this week and come back with a legitimate debate next week...

I cannot believe that you actually defend Chris Simon. Players get baited into taking penalties all the time. Rutuu is the master at baiting other players. However, other players do not retaliate with the intent to injure. Chris has shown over and over again that he cannot control his temper. What do we have to do, wait until he permanently disables someone or worse, kills someone. He needs to be banned from hockey for life. Only then will players like him take heed. I am all for dropping the gloves in hockey. It adds excitement to the game, but he line must be drawn when it invovles use of hockey equipment.

Let me preface my comment by first saying I have the utmost respect for Don Cherry. He calls ‘em like he sees him and in my opinion, he’s usually right on the money. However – he blew it big time last night. You can’t rationalize breaking a code with Simon’s actions. They are not understandable or acceptable on any level!

This guy has a problem that has nothing to do with hockey. The Islanders GM has acknowledged that Simon needs help as a human being – not as a hockey player. Anyone with issues like Simon should not be playing in the NHL – period.

And; drawing attention to the fact that his last two victims didn’t miss any games as a result of his attacks has nothing to do with the real issue here. Simon made decisions to attempt to physically injure both players.

The fact that he wasn’t successful is not part of the equation. Sorry Don – you blew this one. Acknowledge your mistake and move on.

Like Jeff above, I usually enjoy Coach's Corner, and take Don for what he is as a straight shooter. However, I was also embarrased and dumbfounded by Don's comments last night. Such ignorance is not entertainment.

I really think Ron MacLean is as much to blame for making the discussion political with his comment abour the fair shake. He's completely correct, but sometimes its like he can't resist tweaking the discussion to something controversial. The usual backpeddle then ensues.

Stick to hockey talk guys!

I ws left speechles after seeing the show. We are in delicate times with the First Nations peolpe and the CBC should not be broadcasting such touchy subjects as that by a man who speaks with his heart. Gotta say Don that you are right but it is how you say it that sticks. If I do get this posted I would just like to take my stand on fighting in hockey. It is a shame to our idenity.

Don crossed a line in the comments he made yesterday in terms of what he said about the Simon incident and David Suzuki. How can a man who consistently instructs children on how to play the game defend violence? On the matter of Suzuki, perhaps the sky is not falling, at this moment, but global warming is the most serious challenge mankind has ever faced and, placing your head in the sand, like Mr. Cherry has done, only compounds a complicated problem. I suppose Don's grade 10 or 11 education gives him the legitmacy to speak about environmental matters. On last evening's show, Don, more than ever, showed himself to be an old, loud-mouthed, ignorant bully whose time has, sadly, passed. The CBC embarrasses itself in giving Mr. Cherry a soapbox to, on a weekly basis, deliver his ill-informed views on a wide variety of matters. Its time for this buffoon to leave. If he left years ago, he could of left with some dignity but, now that is impossible.

There is no right answer to this conversation.

Its not fair to say First Nations kids don't get a fair shake in life. Ted's a head coach of an NHL team, and Chris has played for over 14-yrs in the league. Obviously, they received a fair shake to get where they are today. However, you don't have to look further than Ted's racial experience in Chicoutimi two years ago when he was taunted by white bigots to know this isn't a cut and dry affair.

Simon had to be suspended for 30-games not because he was native but because he's stepped on someone with a skate. He needs to get his act together...no question.

Are native people a little sensitive?

You know, there was a reason Tony Dungy was proud to be the First African American head coach to win the Super Bowl last year. Because he knew the significance of being Black and how race matters to many in his country, so please don't try to convince that race isn't a factor in sports.

I think many of you would be surprised to hear the names of how many players in the NHL come from native ancestory.

Great programming. Coachs Corner provides one of the few moments on TV that the viewer (Canadian hockey fan) can relate to. Don and Ron shows what is is to be Canadian (both right and wrong). Hockey is Canada and Canada is hockey. Best moments on TV.

In our house, the volume on the TV always goes up when Coaches Corner comes on. Last night I could not belive that Don was trying to defend the actions of a truely deliberate and unacceptable act. I understand that Don wants to show support for Simon, which is admirable, but it should have been directed towards the rehabilitation efforts and not in defending the action itself. There is absolutely no room in any sport for deliberate acts of intent, whether the recipient of the actions misses games or not (attempted murder is still a crime). Don/Ron ... thanks for your unwavering support of the military...we truely appreciate it. Wishing you both a safe and enjoyable holiday season.

In the interest of safety and prolonging a players' career, why doesn't the league ban guys for life who are out to hurt other players? This is the 21st century, not the barbarian ages. We have safety regs in every walk of life except for hockey. I'd rather see someone like Yzerman around for 22 years rather than someone who makes a living by trying to injure an opponent. Playing hard is one thing, but deliberate intent to injure should not be tolerated.

I can't understand why Don continues to defend NHL's lugg head goons. Regardless of his opinion of Ruutu, how can anyone defend Simon's skate blade stomp or Scott Walker's head butt on Mike Fisher (regardless of the visor) - I'm wondering how he's going to explain to the "kids" that a stomp with skate blade or head butt in any circumstance is OK? Then again, eight year old's fighting seems to be fine with Cherry, they might as well learn from the NHL's best. Don, give your head a shake you're loosing me buddy.

The problem with this segment tonight is that Cherry refers to Tuomo Ruuto as "the same Ruuto that Simon got". This is wrong, Simon's incident occurred with Jaarko Ruuto of Pittsburgh. I understand he's emotional about this but he has to get the basic facts right. Was this corrected later in the broadcast or did they just let this slide?

I agree with Cherry last night. I feel natives are given a fair shake at hockey. Do a search on hockey rinks on reservations. I have played against some very talented native players who probably could have made the NHL. I have also played against a lot off non-natives who could have made it. So is it racism that I don't see any of them in the NHL. It isn't only natives who have it tough.

There was a time when I really enjoyed Coaches Corner, but that time was quite a few years ago. I believe Don Cherry has gotten to the point where he is embarrassing himself with his petty and childish antics on air and it's time for CBC to make a change.

There are so many insightful and thoughtful people working on HNiC that could do a more reasonable job of providing that particular segment, Kelly Hrudey for one, in an evenhanded way, with out all of the hysterics and petulance.

I feel for Ron McClean having to put up with this week after week and I don't think he backtracks because he realizes he made a mistake, he backtracks like any parent would to stop their child from having a public tantrum.

This just proves Don Cherry is a dummy. Just because the players don't miss any time, doesn't mean that he shouldn't have been suspended for the amount he did. Don is always talking about being a man, and the last 2 incidents with Simon were far from being a man. That is the mark of Roid rage. As for Ruutu, why would he waste his time fighting Neil? He is there to sucker people into fights. It's not like Ruutu has never dropped his gloves like Cherry seems to think.

Don Cherry is right; stop making excuses for people's actions. It doesn't matter if you are Native, Finnish, or Russian, you are responsible for your own actions. Stop blaming your past, or your up-bringing. If you break the rules, you pay the price. It's that simple.

I'm glad that Don mentioned the people that Simon has been suspended for. Simon's lost his temper on a bunch of cheap Soccer players with skates on. How many more guys did Hollweg hit from behind that year? While Simon sat at home? Anyway I'm a service man Myself and what he does for the troops and this Country should be an inspiration to Canadians everywhere. God Love ya Donald S Cherry

Ron, your interuptions tonight caused the whole segment to take off on a tangent that coud never be discussed fully in the time you and Don have. It seemed tonight that you were were trying to stir the pot a bit, starting with Joe N of the Panthers, and then Don. It is "coach's corner". There is no defence for what Chris Simon did, a cheap and dangerous action. The league has rightfully suspended him. The analysis of the underlying issues,aspects, and opinions would require more time and thoughtful consideration. And why are the players'benches on the same side of the building anyway ?
Merry Christmas to HNIC, the coverage is great.

I think that this last bit worthless rambling by Grandpa Grapes should get him sent to the retirement village by the CBC. People with the attitude of Grapes belong in the 19th century, not the 21st. Ohh yeah Claude Lemieux was around before the instegator rule. Simon should be banned from organized hockey for life.

Classic Cherry! He just wouldn't be the same without Ron either. You'd think the two were married. "Anyhow!" Grapes was right on the money, race didn't and shouldn't come into question. Simon got what he deserved, and that's that! It shouldn't become a race issue, in any way, shape or form. There's no place for what he(Simon) did in hockey. Don't pull a CNN and make it into something it's not, that wouldn't be Canadian, tell it lile it is, and deal with it!!!!!

I commend Cherry for his opinion tonight. Why does race have to be an issue regarding Simon? What a bunch of crap. I suppose if it was Donald Brashear getting suspended, then his skin color would be an issue? Right.
The fact is this guy is a multiple offender and got what he deserved. Ron Mclean should be smarter than to suggest otherwise. And it's so refreshing to hear Don Cherry say that people need to catch their "fair shake". My life/career wasn't handed to me on a silver platter. People need to work for what they get, it doesn't matter who you are. Thank God for honest people who aren't afraid to say it like it is.

While Don can come off as quite offensive, and generally I don't agree with a lot he has to say with regards to anything non-hockey...I do feel Ron pulled this one out of his behind. There's no doubt that there are grave issues with First Nations and Native American rights. No question. However, I don't see how this applies to the Simon situation. It's quite cut and dry what he did, and why they suspended him.

I also am starting to really dislike watching that segment. Their personalities clash far too much, Ron continually brings up subjects he knows will irk Don. While Don may get upset over quite a few things, Ron is simply adding fuel to the fire.

Politics wise I would probably agree with more with Ron ( being quite liberal minded ), but I have to agree with Don's sentiments. There are all people from different walks of life who have had it hard ( myself included ), but after awhile you have to take things into your own hands. Otherwise you are simply using it as an excuse. While I understand that there are many cases of people who are treated unjustly because of their race, I don't think it applied to this situation. I'm trying not to make a broad statement, as I understand there are many people who have experienced extreme situations where their race was the sole ignition. I'm not trying to offend anyone.

This may be one of the few times I agreed with Don Cherry ( - the whole Keep the Christ in Xmas bit ).

Why a 'First Nation's Chief' takes offense at Campbell's comments is beyond me. Alcholism is not a racial problem, it affects all races. Apparently it is something that Mr Simon has been dealing with. Unless he was drinking while playing, it shouldn't have anything to do with his actions. Stomping on a player with a skate is certainly the worst thing I have ever witnessed. How come hitting someone with a glove is a criminal act yet stomping on someone's leg with a skate is OK?
I wonder if Mr. Ruutu's parents will be suing Mr. Simon in civil court?

One talentless loud mouthed moron, Don Cherry, defending another talentless, goon moron, Chris Simon.

What's Don on David Suzuki for??? Sky is falling Suzuki? Don calls himself a hockey expert and gets frustrated when people don't listen to him. Suzuki is an environment expert and probably gets frustrated when idiots like Don don't listen to him. I love Don Cherry but I love David Suzuki even more because he actually talks about things that are important. Come on Don.

Don is right on the mark! Simon did a bad thing and he admitted it. 30 games is way too much. The man is going to lose $300,000 for a five minute major!

Are you kidding?!? Don is ,and always will be, an ignorant man. When he asks how many games Simon's VICTIMS have missed he is proud to say "ZERO" but what about Bertuzzi's victim? An entire career. And he is stupid enough to blame it on the benches being on the same side of the ice. Stupid, stupid man.

To Hulk: Don Cherry's remarks only emphasized that everyone has challenges. You have to want something bad enough that you will do anything to get reach that goal. That's what Don means by getting a fair shake. No one should expect to get something handed down to them on a silver platter. It's not always easy. Cudos to Don for mentioning that First Nations are not the only ones that have it tough. Cudos to Don for mentioning that the reason Ted Nolan got hired or didn't get hired by any team were not racially motivated. You'll notice how fast Don Mclean backtracked on that issue. Thanks Don for showing pictures of our forces and the sacrifice they are making overseas.

I think it is important for all of us to be treated properly. I think fairness in treatment of people in the minor league level regardless of race. Certainly fairness in treatment when it comes to handing down punishments. Furthermore, I would like to encourage all those who may feel treated unequally to not enter any arena, whether it be hockey or life and thinking that someone will oppress you, but rather go in it with pride and confidence. It is hard, the world is cut-throat, but don't sell your self short! Take care! Merry Christmas

don is right as usual its time people took responsibility for thier own actions its 2007 not 1807 and mclean quit interupting the man

Jeff, gotta agree with you completely. Grapes is very knowledgeable about hockey and should stick to what he knows. I'm native and have played hockey with both native and non-native kids and it IS difficult to get a shot at things. Many talented native kids have a hard time getting ice time and are often looked down upon on the bench. I've seen it and I've been there.

Ron is right on the mark and I'm glad he brought these points up. Native kids around this country don't BEGIN life with even a SNIFF of a "fair-shake," which makes it that much more difficult to even get a CHANGE at a "fair-shake."

Don, you need to stick with hockey since at least you understand THAT well.

Hulk

The show tonight is an embarrassment to Don Cherry and everyone associated with it. I normally truly enjoy his work, but tonight his antics were petty, arrogant, insulting to most native people, insulting to anyone with even a bit of understanding of what is going on environmentally. He of all people should understand what cheap shots are, taken at those who do not have the ability to defend themselves.

Stick to hockey, Don, it is something you understand, and most of the time your opinions are most interesting.

Never been moved to write in before, probably won't again. Merry Christmas.