Don sees good things for Calgary at home in game six and urges penalty killers to either commit to blocking the shot or get out of the goaltender's way. Grapes also discusses Dick Pound and some inconsistencies in his accusations.
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derek anderson
cobourg
hey Don,i go to dale road school in cobourg.. in a coulple of weeks me and my friend chris are doing a project on you we have lots of information. Me and my partner wanted to asjk you a few questions1) where do you live when you are not commenttating games.2) what kind of cars do you have for traviling. 3)last but not least how many suits dfo you have in total.
thankz Don...from your freinds Derek and Chris ...Plaese email me back thankz
Posted April 9, 2008 12:17 PM
Vince
I am not a jersey fan, But you got to atleast repsect Brodeur, and for the idiots that are blaming him for letting in a bad goal or even two should shut up.
Brodeur is in my book atleast is the best goalie in th NHL and Ottawa is throwing everything at him and outplaying jersey by far, So if it was any other goalie the games wouldn't be one or two goals difference.
The critics all should just shut up and watch the saves he makes and not the one or two he lets in
Posted May 5, 2007 08:00 PM
Vince
I am not a jersey fan, But you got to atleast repsect Brodeur, and for the idiots that are blaming him for letting in a bad goal or even two should shut up.
Brodeur is in my book atleast is the best goalie in th NHL and Ottawa is throwing everything at him and outplaying jersey by far, So if it was any other goalie the games wouldn't be one or two goals difference.
The critics all should just shut up and watch the saves he makes and not the one or two he lets in
Posted May 5, 2007 07:59 PM
rob
Gotta love it. Grapes "tells the truth" Calgary will win game 6 in Calgary. I believe he said that a total of 5 times during the segment. Grapes likes to show highlights of his good predictions, but guess he won't be showing this one any time soon. Just pokin a little fun at cha. Love HNIC and Grapes as well. GO WINGS!!!!!
Posted April 28, 2007 06:49 PM
Harlan
US
I've been a long time hockey fan and even a fan of the Calgary Flames since the days of Loob, Fleury, and Nieuwendyk. After seeing the actions of today's Calgary Flames in Game 5, I've lost complete respect for this absolutely classless organization. All the way up and down the ranks including Iginla, McLellan, Langkow, etc. Their actions were with intent to cause injury to another player. If the intent was to energize the team do it with a hard, clean check or even drop the gloves. What was done instead showed that the organization and players representing the Calgary Flames lack courage and have little to no respect for the game of hockey. From that point forward, the Calgary Flames, including the supporting players such as McLellan and even the star players such as Iginla will be remembered as dirty players after their cowardly acts.
Posted April 27, 2007 11:52 PM
Daniel S.
Ottawa
Bill Ross:
First, learn to spell English, it's speak, not speek.
Secondly, to your ears, we probably have an accent. Just like if you came up here and spoke, it would be suggested you would be the one that needs to learn english. Ya got that, Y'all?
Posted April 27, 2007 04:18 PM
Alisa Barnim
I would just like to say a thank you to Don, in his kind tribute to Anthony Klumpenhouwer. Anthony is my cousin, and I know what a great surprise and comfort it was to see him on Coach's corner being recognized for his service in the Canadian Special Forces. So on behalf of my family Don, thank you very much.
Posted April 25, 2007 10:33 AM
Charleton Lingrell
Hey how about this for a change of rules. Players laying on the puck freezing it shold be considered a delay of game penalty especially on power plays when there is a scoring opportunity. In my opinion that is more of a delay of game than flipping the puck over the glass. The reason for bringing this up is because of the Vancouver/Dallas game tonight. Vancouver was on a power play and a Dallas player layed down on the puck in front of the goalie freezing it taking away Vancouver's scoring opportunity. Why is this not a penalty and an accidental flip of the puck is?
Posted April 23, 2007 10:57 PM
Mike Jacobsen
Lethbridge
Well it would work better if they called it on both ends, and give out penalties for spinning the goalie, Luongo, when a shot's comming, rather than running into a goalie when he runs out of his net and can't get the puck.
Posted April 23, 2007 10:50 PM
Rick
Kingston
Hats off to Kriprrsov the calgary goalie.This guy showed amazing goal tending. He should not hang his head low when going into that dressing room or all summer as he kept his team in it not his team player's. I wish we could make the trade's now and i know Ottawa would take him im a moment and with Emery and him try and beat us. NOOOO way would you do it not even Detroit.
Posted April 23, 2007 10:41 PM
Rick Wilson
If the ref's won't protect the goaltender,then sometimes you must put your backup goaltender to good use! Good job Mc Lennan! You have to keep the goons from charging your goalie and if it takes a little bruising so be it!
Posted April 23, 2007 08:47 PM
Fraser Walsh
Hey graps I am a hugh fan of you'rse I love the playoffs who do you think will take home the cup I am saying the Detroit redwins they are my favorite team My dad loves you to We are pens fans and I am a hugh steve yzerman fan and was my favorite player Who do you like ovechkin or Crosby I think Crsoby better since he is canadian thanks now i am going for the dallas stars in there game against Vancouver thanks
Posted April 23, 2007 08:42 PM
Rob
Paul--
What are you talking about?!?! Check your facts. The rule you are refering to is based on the premise that an attacking player's position, whether inside or outside the crease, should not, by itself, determine whether a goal should be allowed or disallowed - i.e., goals scored while attacking players are standing in the crease may, in appropriate circumstances be allowed. Goals should be disallowed only if: (1) an attacking player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper's ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal; or (2) an attacking player initiates more than incidental contact with a goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease. Incidental contact with a goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when such contact is initiated outside of the goal crease, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact. The rule will be enforced exclusively in accordance with the on-ice judgement of the Referee(s), and not by means of video replay or review.
Quit your whining.
Posted April 23, 2007 08:24 PM
Chris
Ottawa
I don't know what point people are trying to make, here. This was a pretty fun series to watch, and the last game was (whatever some people might like to say) extremely close. Ask the players after going into a second overtime if they thought they won or lost that game by a landslide.
I also don't get why everyone seems to be blaming everyone else for being a goon or playing dirty. Face facts, people: neither team covered themselves in glory this series. Detroit kept knocking Calgary defensemen into Kipper (ie. I'm looking at Holmstrom, here) and Calgary's assorted faux-pas have been discussed extensively. Did Detroit run Kipper? Not that much, they were smart enough to do it in such a way that they were more likely to get away with it and still get him off his game.
The bottom line though is that I can't see Detroit winning the Cup. First round victory obviously, I mean I didn't even think the Flames had a chance in the first round. Second round victory maybe, but after that I just can't see them standing toe to toe with several other teams in the playoffs. They have some grit, but they're still vulnerable to having some forwards (Datsyuk, Zetterberg) shoved around. Their defense is still great, led by Lidstrom for good reason. Their goaltending is suspect I would say, in that Hasek has no real motivation and he's one pad save away from pulling his groin for the umpteenth time and ending his career. WHICH would leave the Wings with Chris Osgood down the stretch and um, I don't think he's got what it takes to backstop them the whole way there.
Posted April 23, 2007 07:31 PM
DHC
PEI
Where have all the tough guys gone??? You have guys like Cleary, Datsuck, Holstrom, Gomez, Alfredsson, Tangay, St louis, Briere and a host of other players running opposing players during the playoffs. Where was all this grit during the regular season?? There was none. During the regular season the tough guys play and take care of stuff like that. You run at our guys. Stars or not and you better be prepared to drop the gloves. The game now is a joke. It's a special teams game. The referring is terrible. I didn't pay $300.00 to watch the refs send player after player to the sin bin. Let them play. You can't put your stick anywhere near a player and you get a penalty, but you can run him from behind, jump off the ice to hit somebody, no penalty. Touch a players sweater in front of the net and your gone. Bring back the old game. One ref would create more open ice. Checking in front of the net so the Goaies don't get hammered. Put the old pegs back in that will stop it. Anyway that's it for now. I'm off to watch some real good old fashioned Jr Hockey. Thanks for listening. Sabers will be Stanley Cup Champs.
Posted April 23, 2007 07:12 PM
Paul
I was struck by the comments made by Detroit's Assistant Coach during the intermission between 1st and 2nd overtime of game 6: "If we keep forcing their goalie to defend his space like we've been doing, we should do alright." What the ?! Now, I don't know the rule-book inside out, but I thought that was what the blue paint was for--so that the goalie didn't have to defend his space. Detroit showed very little respect for that space . . .
And ultimately, I think this is indicative of a general lack of respect edging its way into the game. Detroit is a different team without Steve Yzerman--he demanded and accorded others respect and his team followed suit (by and large). Not any more . . . from the coaching staff on down. And then there's the disturbing display by Tampa Bay. That John Tortorella didn't even shake hands after the series is a grievous lack of respect. His press conferences and media scrums--laced with profanity and derision--were much the same. It would be difficult to play for a man like that. In fact, to see the embarrassment on Lecavalier's face when Tortorella was going after New Jersey's bench in game 5 said a lot.
It's the coaches like Detroit's assistant (sorry, don't know his name) and Tortorella who should be fined for tarnishing what could be a beautiful game. Unfortunately, it's the coach who tries to get respect that gets the fine. Welcome to the new NHL . . . I, for one, am not a fan.
Posted April 23, 2007 06:09 PM
dave mccormick
Don,
way to go Don glad you mentioned the dick
pound thing when talking about the Sean hill
suspenion ,also glad you hounour our troops in afganistan on coachs corner you just don`t
honour this country`s hockey hero`s but our troops are the real hero`s.
dave
Posted April 23, 2007 05:53 PM
Atindra Sinha
Canton,
Not only the Calgary players are GOONS ,but their fans are uncivilized MORONS too. Don Cherry must be so proud of his Canadian heritage.
Posted April 23, 2007 04:59 PM
James
Windsor
How can a bench warming goalie come "un-glued" after only 18 seconds, unless he didn't get an assignment from the bench. I think Playfair got what he deserved... And Detroit's 'European style' has taken a giant step toward hard nose, gritty North American Hockey. Did you see Datsyuk knocking Phaneuf around...GO WINGS.
Posted April 23, 2007 04:32 PM
Mike VanderLeek
Cheap bunch of babies,no way they could keep up with the wings.Next year land again for the sea of red.
Posted April 23, 2007 03:21 PM
Garnet Parker
Don: Ottawa and Anaheim in the finals with Ottawa winning in 6. GP
Posted April 23, 2007 03:04 PM
E-Dog
D-town
I thought all these guys on TV were hockey experts, so much for the Flames toughness. These so called experts confuse Calgary's team with their team that made the Stanley cup run team years ago. Their team was soft not Detroit. Amonte, Nilson, Moss, all soft players, Det had the grit lead by their Canadians players, Cleary, Draper but lets not forget Franzen, if he was from Alberta people would wax poetic about him, he plays tough, checks, goes to the net hard, yet the experts hardly mention him, they'd rather focus on Wayne Primeau. How could the expert pick against Detroit with Amonte, Primeau, Huselius. Who was going to score???? By the way Huselius so much for criticizing Hasek, you did nothing and he was a -4. Bye Calgary, try loading up on talent and not "grit" and you may win a series. Kipper is a wasted talent on this team of slugs. Conroy should retire he's cooked. 2nd rd here we come. How come nobody rips on Iginla when he fights with his visor on, that was a Swede Cherry would crucify him. Luv ya Grapes but don't be blind to D-town.
Posted April 23, 2007 02:49 PM
Lindy Bug
Detroit
Thank you Calgary for some exciting games to watch. Hockey has become soooo boring. Come everyone, admit it, you enjoyed watching it too. Yes, I agree that the penalties on the Calgary team were excessive-the goalie really should have received only game suspensions but I can't agree with Mr. Cherry. Every player should have full control of his stick and even if it was only a tap, it still was wrong.
Again, thanks Calgary, enjoyed every minute of it!
Posted April 23, 2007 02:45 PM
Chris
NOT ONCE in the entire series was Detroit in the blue paint without getting pushed there. If the goalie gets brushed outside of the crease, well any player has a right to that space. Any claims of a deliberate attempt of running the goalie is just plain bunk.
Posted April 23, 2007 02:15 PM
Berry Melroose
Canada
All I have to say is HAAAAAAAA! Nice prediction Cherry!
Posted April 23, 2007 01:57 PM
Kenny Creeper
Calgary
Detroit fans are in la la land, if they think Detroit will capture the cup. Detroit only put off their tee time.
Also, if Detroit fans didn't notice the dirty play on their own team's part, then they are blind.
Calgary got out played, but make no mistake, Detroit won't be picking up Stanley's prize this year.
Posted April 23, 2007 01:54 PM
Joel
Calgary
Well being a Vancouver fan, but still have a heart for the Flames. I agree with Grapes, Jamies was sticking up for Kipper, also he was sending his own Flames mates a message too that they have to stick up for Kipper. I do agree that Iggy should not wear the C as he is not a go to guy and cant handle the pressure. As for the Detroit fans making comments about Canadians, if it wasnt for Canadians the Red Wings would not be the team or teams they have been in the past.
Go Vancouver Go!!!
Posted April 23, 2007 01:33 PM
Chris
Toledo
Tapped?????? Played Hockey ever since I can remember and seen my fair share but to me why did kiprusoff come off with only 3 mins left? when calgary was done like dinner at the beginning of the period. come on Don you need to strap on the pads go out there and take a cheap shot like that and we'll see if you think it was still a tap. respect your hockey insight learned a lot from ya growing up but one of those times where the canadian double standard is clearly evidant.
Posted April 23, 2007 01:24 PM
Michael Ward
I am a Hockey Night in Canada guy for years even living in the US. But I was disappointed with Hrudy and the groups attitude towards the muggins that took place in Detroit on Saturday. There is NO justification whatsover for the goalie's two hander acros the players mid-section. THe punch in the face that put out a player with NO penalty or suspension is appalling. Shame you you NHL. It doesn't matter what team you are for. Play fair and honest...cut the crap. I hope Don CHerry tells it like it is...
Posted April 23, 2007 01:09 PM
Wayne
Windsor
Don,
I'm a life long fan, I always enjoy your opinions, whether I agree or not. Regarding the wings/flames series: many opinions expressed here accuse the wings of running the flames goalie, my veiw has been that when playing an outstanding tender a team has to adopt an effective means of beating him such as traffic and obscuring their veiw, if that means close calls, contact and the inevitable of being called for interference, etc then thats the risk. The refs make the calls right or wrong. As far as the suspension, I beleive that it was the intent more than anything. Bottom line: this is the playoffs and they are playing for keeps. The team leaders for the flames appeared to lose their composure at critical times, which was a distraction. I interpret all of the negative comments directed towards the wings as the biggest compliment they could make, they are ultimately jealous of their success of this Stevie Y inspired team.
Wayne
Wayne
Posted April 23, 2007 12:38 PM
dave hamilton
What,s with the FLAMES? They had better not blame this disaster on "KIPPER". When is the defence going to step up so "KIPPER" doesn,t have to face 40+ shots a game? I have been a fan of the FLAMES since I could say hockey,and this was the worst outing Calgary has ever had in the playoffs in my opinion.I love the Flames, but if they are going to play like this (no road wins),then go back to Atlanta. Maybe they nered to watch coaches corner and listento Mr. Cherry!!!!!! I,m also real tired of fans of the Detroit team. If every team in Canada could buy every superstar they want as the Americian teams do then the cup would never leave its homeland of CANADA. Most of hockeys main talent and superstars come from CANADA and not the U.S. We Canadians are tired of watcing the cup being handed to the U.S. teams.(eg. Tampa at Calgary) Suck it up Detroit you won,t be given the next series by the refs.
Posted April 23, 2007 12:35 PM
dave hamilton
What,s with the FLAMES? They had better not blame this disaster on "KIPPER". When is the defence going to step up so "KIPPER" doesn,t have to face 40+ shots a game? I have been a fan of the FLAMES since I could say hockey,and this was the worst outing Calgary has ever had in the playoffs in my opinion.I love the Flames, but if they are going to play like this (no road wins),then go back to Atlanta. Maybe they nered to watch coaches corner and listento Mr. Cherry!!!!!!
Posted April 23, 2007 12:20 PM
will
calgary
i have to say i admire Mclennans stick work, Detroit have to realize that if you get the goalie mad hes just like any other player and will stomp you, and in my view countless rushes on net and physical contact would be a valid reason to be getting mad, not to mention having to watch kipper from the bench take a beating night after night, Detroit seems to have made a habit of making swings at the goalie then wonder why the goalie gets mad, Detroit seem to like playing like that, rushing the net and physically attacking the goalie so i think its only fair that we gave something back, as don said...a little tap...when i i saw it i thought to myself he could have beaten the guy to a pulp but no he gave him a warning...Mclennan simply reminded everyone that the goalie is a person too, and yes they has a stick as well, and heres the best part, im sure it reminded the players that the goalie has the biggist stick of all...i cant wait to see the fun and games next year, you may have won this year but next year we will be back *go flames go*
Posted April 23, 2007 11:48 AM
J. Hall
Detroiahaaaat
Dear Grapes,
You have to admit that our Norris Trophy Swedish Defensemen N. Lidstrom dominated that good Canadian boy J. Inginla on both sides of the red line. In fact the 2-1 shot total tells the dominance and balance of the Red Wings. Our good canadian boys Cleary, Calder, Maltby and Draper put the forcheck back into Detroiaaat's Game, together with our Swede's; Franzen, Samuelsson, Zetterburg, they just wore out the Flames. You could see this from the second period on Sunday night, little offense generated by the Flames. Everyone in the media predicted the Wings were supposed to be worn out by the Flames, too old, too slow, a bunch of soft "European Nancy Boys".
HA!
Cheers,
J. Hall from Detroiaaat
PS - Love your show and you are invited back to the Joe for Round 2.
Posted April 23, 2007 11:40 AM
Jim in Michigan
Well it all ended the way it should have. The Flames deserve to be eliminated and I hope they are all embarrased !!!!!!! I know I would be.
Posted April 23, 2007 11:28 AM
frank b
victoria
well well !! is it any surprise that finally a goalie did something like that ?? i think he did what many others have thought of only didn't have the guts to do . you keep letting the goalies get run and sooner or later!!i'm not a believer in stick work, in fact i think it should be dealt with harshly but if the refs be too dumb to see the constant running the goalie !? may i ask what's malicious?
Posted April 23, 2007 11:10 AM
Ed
BC
Ron you like to prersent yourself as the moral voice of hockey and you also referee. To not rebuff Don's comments about Calagary's stupid actions are just terrible. You are showing that you are just as much as a homer as Don is. I have always enjoyed Coaches Corner but to be biased toward the Canadian team is just the worst. If you won't or can't stand up to Don you should leave the show. If this happened to a Canadian team and an American Broadcaster made the same comments Don would challenge him to a fight. I know it won't make a difference but you have lost a loyal viewer.
Posted April 23, 2007 10:48 AM
Kathy
I have been very frustrated reading the "comments" about running the goalie. If these fans are talking about the situation earlier in game 6 where the goal was denied for Detroit because of contact with the goalie, were they looking at the same goalie "contact" I was? The Detroit player was pushed into Kiprusoff by Calgary's own player. Being loyal to your team is one thing but defending the actions of McClennan, Ignila, and even Langkow is out of line. I would like to see if that would have been tolerated if someone would have pulled those stunts on Gretzky. I enjoy watching Don Cherry but sometimes he even gets out of line with his comments. Lets just face it there is a reason why the number 1 seed plays the number 8. The right team advanced to the second round. Calgary should get a new coach and a new attitude for next year then the outcome might be different.
Posted April 23, 2007 10:11 AM
Stash
Hey Grapes. Do you think the wings are still soft? Seems to me they were more aggresive than the Flames in this series. Great effort Calgary to come back and make this a series after falling 2-0 to start. GO WINGS!!!
Posted April 23, 2007 09:52 AM
Harrell Scales
Don, your comments after Calgary's classless play on Sat. sound just like they did when you thought it was o.k. for Hunter to run a goal scorer from behind, after the play was over eh!! If it had been the great Ulf Sammulsson, I bet the reaction would have been a lot different eh!! Iginla should be stripped of the C, WHAT A GREAT LEADER EH, JUST LIKE MARIO, STEVIE Y, JOE SAKIC, ENOUGH TIME WASTED ON THE CLASSLESS, FRAZEN SCOOOOOORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted April 23, 2007 08:35 AM
Hank
Detroit
Don:
You promised that Calgary would win last night!
Don, you're always right----just like Rush Limbaugh. (In fact, the resemblance between you and Rush is uncanny.)
I'm very disappointed.
Hank in Detroit
Posted April 23, 2007 08:06 AM
Harrell Scales
Jerome Inginla captain what a joke. He should have learned what a REAL CAPTAIN does to lead their team after playing in the Olympics with Mario, Stevie Y, and Joe Sakic. I did'nt buttend him I was getting body postion, we did'nt use the backup goalie as our D.H. with premeditation, he was frustrated after playing 17 seconds!!! Classless Capt., organization and announcers, I like the way you guys swept it under the rug last nite. Had a European slashed a Canadian on the Flames the same way I know the responce would have been a lot different. Oh by the way how many 5 on 3's did Clagary have during the series. Frazen SCORES HOW POETIC EH DON
Posted April 23, 2007 08:02 AM
The Instigator
Detroit
Well Don Cherry was wrong about game 6. Just as he was wrong about Detroit players not hitting. The Better team is on its way to Round 2 and the Flames are heading to the links.
Posted April 23, 2007 07:10 AM
Ken
LET'S GO RANGERS!
Posted April 23, 2007 02:51 AM
Richard Meara
Well Don`s DETROIT SWEETIES won? Your after game headline noted Calgary was "fatigued"...those SWEETIES must be able to hit, eh!!! Now it`s getting down to the SKILLED hockey teams instead of the GOONS. I`m looking forward to all of the semi-finals and wonder if Don is going to watch since it`s not real hockey.
Posted April 23, 2007 02:28 AM
Fred
Detroit
Amazing insights here. Iginla said after game five that he was not trying to send a message to the Wings, he was just trying to get his team energized for the next game.
Well that next game is now finished. Way to go, Iginla.
Also, to all the Flames fans, if you were to watch the Red Wings play their kind of hockey, you would know that they play the puck and never EVER hit as much as they did in this series. I always think they play too clean and don't lay on the body as much as they should. They changed their style of play knowing how Calgary always plays them. Calgary is a tough team that leads with the rough play. Usually they are making clean hits like both teams were throughout the series. But if you didn't see these three separate incidences (Langkow's sucker punch, McLennan's lumberjack impersonation, and Iginla's stab and hack) as prepsterous cheap shots, then you are WAY wrong.
Are you guys serious that you didn't see your OWN players knock our guy onto Kipper? REALLY? Did they edit that out in Canada? I could see it plain as day here. Maybe you guys should get FSN and listen to Ken and Mickey.
Oh, and as a final note... Calgary... when's tee time???
Posted April 23, 2007 02:14 AM
hockeytownjack
The better team won this series. The Red Wings are a class act, while the Flames have a few goons, much like Nashville. Calgary has a great goalie, I will give them that, but I'd still rather have Hasek. Go Wings!
Posted April 23, 2007 01:05 AM
Wingnut
Atlanta
How fitting that Franzen score the winner. Enjoy the offseason while those terrible guys from Detroit move on!
Posted April 23, 2007 01:05 AM
Poppa G
Ontario
No crease, in crease, it makes no never mind. What should be noticed is exactly what he did with his stick. It was a vicious slash across a players body with the lumber. Every other goalie gets a good punishment, he is no better. Regardless of being a hidden backup. It is a shame that the coach and club got penalized for the indiscretion though. I have my doubts that the coach told him to go out there and knock some one silly. On that note, how would a coach know if he was going to do something like that. I am sure it was heat of the moment, but the rules do say that the player must be in full control of his stick. Good on the league for the suspensions, but a little tough on the club.
Posted April 22, 2007 11:57 PM
JR Wildman
Edmonton
Love your comments Don and glad you're on the CBC team. Just like to say, I really am getting tired of the way the referees like to involve themselves in the game. Sickening. ANd what's worse, can't find an email or a snail mail address to complain about the bias and often very uncalled for penalties. Referees, it seems, are not accountable. Tonight - Detroit penalty in OT - good example of very bad officiating.
Best regards
John Richard
Posted April 22, 2007 11:55 PM
mike
calgary
Suck it up Detroit, try playing hockey without pads and gloves, like real hockey players did at one time , for a lot less money.Take your bumps and bruises play the game , grin and bare it.That goes for all hockey players.But play fair ,injuries don't need to be started they happen on their own.
Calgary if we can't burn'em up lets beat them down.GO FLAMES GO
Posted April 22, 2007 10:37 PM
Dee Mulder
Jamie McLennan Suspension
I may just be a girl that loves hockey, but here's my take on the McLennan suspension. First I agree that the situation needed to be dealt with, but why did they just suspend and fine Jamie, fine Playfair, and fine the Calgary Flames? As I see it (and this is only my opinion) why did the NHL not take this incident to the next level? If I was Jamie McLennan and had to sit on the bench night after night and watch both Kippersoff and Hasek being charged in the attempt to score, I would be getting frustrated. And then to put him in net, and after only 18 seconds, take a slash to his face mask, I too would have hauled off and decked the first guy in my path. I prabably would have pushed him to the ground and tried to decapitate him with my stick as he was laying there. Yes, Jamie was wrong, but where is the NHL in issuing a statement that says this king of reckless and careless behaviour will be penalized in some form as well. I understand that that is part of the game, but players are purposly rushing the net, kicking and slashing at the goalie to try to get the goal when the goalie is down and protecting the puck to force a playoff. Will the NHL finally do something when a goalie is slashed by a skate blade or needs to be carried off the ice on a stretcher, because they have cracked or broken a vertebrea in their back?
Posted April 22, 2007 10:36 PM
Alberta
Alberta
Why aren't the Calgary games broadcast in High Def? The west needs its own network like Quebed's Radio Canada run totally by and for western Canadians!!!!
Posted April 22, 2007 10:02 PM
Aaron
The runnng the goalie controversy is manufactured. Any team that plays like the Flames needs some sort of officiating edge in order to win against playoff-caliber opponents. Sadly, after Periood 1 of Game 6 with the phantom interference on Holmstrom, the whining appears to be working. Wake up - you're supposed to be hockey fans.
Posted April 22, 2007 09:56 PM
Bill Ross
Why do the comentators always say DETROIAT insted of detroit. This buggs me . They should learn to speek english. A Lot of Canadians put AT on the end. WHY????
Posted April 22, 2007 09:47 PM
Steve Elku
I just found out I could watch Coach's Corner on the internet at cbc.ca! Terrific news. Now I can enjoy all the latest from Don and Ron even while I holiday in the sun,(like many Canadians).
As I'm retired, I spend most of the winter in Florida, and honestly miss the CBC feed of Hockey Night In Canada more than anything else. The dearth of hockey news down here is remarkable, even during the playoffs!
It was MOST disappointing to discover that the CBC feed of HNIC is not available over the internet outside of Canada.
Life for all Canadian hockey fans in the sunny south would be PERFECT if it was available. (Next year, perhaps?).
In an imperfect world, however, it is still most gratifying to be able to hear Don "The Voice Of Canada" Cherry explain the intricacies of our national game to Ron and the rest of us.
Thanks for this opportunity, yours truly, Steve Elku
Posted April 22, 2007 09:47 PM
Sean
If the nhl would bring in the no crease rule like they do in lacrosse then stuff like this would never happen in lacrosse players are not allowed to go into the players crease but as soon as the goalie comes out he is fair game to get hit in other words if you brought the rule in then most goalies would stay in the net if they come out and get hurt then its nobodys fault but thier own and i am a kipper fan "go flames go"
Posted April 22, 2007 09:36 PM
kathy
Alberta
If the NHL players, coaches, refs and administration showed more concern about injuries to all hockey players by adopting the "no touch icing rule," Maybe the players overall well being and sportsmanship would be a step in right direction and respected more. Making it manadatory to were certain safety equipment may also be necesssary. If the "finesse" players can't play to potiential becasue of "hired hitmen"; whats the difference if their gloves are stiffer and longer or if they are wearing a mask.All in protecting their health.
My dad's 10 sizes too big hockey helmet, the inside of a couch coushin cut in half, strapped to my legs by some twine and a baseball glove was all the protection you needed when it's a fun yet competative rivalry between two towns on a pond that both teams have to help clear off. You knew who the "rough or dirty" players were and becasuse there was no referee you gave him or her a shot with your stick that sends a message that "there is more where that came from" and "I can hold my own." If the Refs in the playoffs were more concerned about player saftey and cheap shots they would spend more time in front of the net and not chase that stick that parrallel to the ice all game.
Posted April 22, 2007 08:50 PM
Hank Oostram
Edmonton
Been missing the "aggression" in these playoffs! THis is NHL Hockey-its rough and tough and messy at times. Could not beleive Hull and Ferraro in the NBC feed labelling the Flames as disgraceful!! Please, take a deep breath - we've all seen much worse. Anyways, its all over the Flames tonight-Iggy and Phaneuf to Moscow.
Sidebar - CBC televised ALL of the Leafs games during the long and arduous season in HDTV, but not all the playoff games such as today - HUH???
Posted April 22, 2007 08:50 PM
Goalies R People 2
As Donnie Shulzhoffer would say ... if you don't play this game with a big heart and a big bag of knuckles in front of the net, you don't got dinky-do.
Posted April 22, 2007 08:18 PM
Ryan Macintosh
Players running into the goalie for any reason should get an automatic penalty, Kiprusoff is really gonna get hurt one of these games, them maybe the NHL will do something about it, but you know what,? it could be to late,Kiprusoff or any other goalie could really get hurt to the point of no return.
Posted April 22, 2007 08:16 PM
Chris Theodoroff
If the Red Wings were to stoop as low as the Flames, they would have a 4th line forward or 3rd tier defenseman run at Kiprusoff, and knock him out. Eye for an eye - fight fire with fire - then wehat would the Flames do for goaltending?
But the Wings have too much class for that. They'll just win the respectable way, with overwhelming talent. Stupid on the Flames ' part. Sorry Calgary, maybe next year.
Posted April 22, 2007 08:12 PM
Adom Giffin
I think this is great! Kick out the back-up and fine the organization. Well, I'm glad that I know the price for knocking someone out (Lebda), clearly trying to injure (Schneider) and delivering the BC two-hander. If I was Detroit, I would make sure to do the same. If the series goes to a game 7 and the Flames are winning, go down and take out Kipper in such a way so that he is out for the rest of the playoffs. Of course sucker punching one of the flames centers so that he is out as well. Detroit has deep pockets. If they DO beat the Flames, then Game 1 against whoever, do the same thing. Sounds like a fantastic strategy to me. With the salary cap, Detroit was a lot of extra cash.
Posted April 22, 2007 07:14 PM
Frank
Brandon
I agree with Don. The slash was not hard, it wasn't intended to hurt Franzen, although he really looked like someone had shot him and was righ back out there for his next shift. I'm sure if you were to look at him today, there wouldn't even be a mark!! This series has been disgusting. That the referees and the league allow the Red Wings players to run, interfere with or make contact with the Flames goaltenders constantly is unbelievable. If they had been protecting the goalies from the start it would never have come to this. It is obvious to me that Detroit has had this a game plan from the beginning of the series.
I am not, in the least a Flames fan so please dont take this as a statement from a fan with blinders on. I am merely a fan of the sport of hockey. I like good, skilled hockey. The Red Wings are a very skilled team and I don't think they need to resort to cheap tactics like goaltender interference to succeed in the post-season.
Posted April 22, 2007 06:49 PM
J Donovan
Halifax
People get over it, I've seen worse from Billy Smith. I don't blame the goaltenders I blame the officials, if they won't protect the goaltenders from being run into then the goalie has every right to retaliate.This season has been the worst for running goaltenders or allowing the play go on while they try to drive the goalie and puck into the back of the net, I thought as soon as the official lost sight of the puck the play was whistled dead....
Posted April 22, 2007 06:25 PM
Lord Stanley
Grapes I've been around the great sport of hockey for a long time as you know. I first want to say that both Coach Playfair and McLennan should be suspended for at least one game. The two handed wing of the goalie stick into the midsection of Johan Franzen was a malicious act that cannot be over looked not even by you Mr. Cherry. Quite frankly I'm disappointed to hear your comments as if it was a boys will be boys thing. This kind of action tarnishes the sport you and I both love. It also leaves a black mark on the great nation of Canada, because Calgary was the team responsible for it. Playfair should be suspended because he is responsible for his players actions and quite frankly I think he knew that was going to happen. Disgusting. Calgary has been playing goon hockey since the opening face off of this series. I only pray that when the Red Wings win this series they get out all in one piece. I'm looking forward to your response Don and yours to Ron.
Thank you for the soapbox.
Posted April 22, 2007 05:51 PM
Jim Hebert
How would Don Cherry react if the slashing situation were reversed, that is if:
--a European backup player playing for an American team who had not played one minute in the series
--slashed a Canadian starting player on a Canadian team
Methinks Don Cherry might have more to say about it. Calgary's team conduct was way out of line, and the fines reflect it.
Posted April 22, 2007 05:30 PM
HockeyRob
Once again I see the extremely biased Red and White Wearing Referees once again looking the other way whenever the Detroit Red Wings commit an infraction that precipitated McLennan's hit. Even though McLennan's actions warranted a Suspension. But why is it that whenever the Red Wings do something like what had brought on McLennan to do what he did, the Red Wings do not even get a Penalty called against them? It proves that the Detroit Red Wings will do anything to get ahead, especially if it's illegal! I agree there was no excuse for McLennan's actions, but Red Wings Players like Datsyuk and Zetterberg Dive all the damn time, and yet they get away with it, furthermore every time the Red Wings feel as if they have been wronged they whine and beg for Penalties. How ridiculous is that? Calgary WILL come out on top in Game 6, and Game 7. Then all of the Fair-Weather Fans of the Red Wings will jump off the Bandwagon just like they did after the Edmonton Oilers eliminated them after the Red Wings discovered that they don't have the Referees in their back pocket!
Posted April 22, 2007 05:15 PM
Steve
BC
5 games for McLennan for bruising Franzen's arm. 3 games for May for bruising Johnsson's brain. Obviously no respect for the damage a concussion can do.
Posted April 22, 2007 05:12 PM
Paul
Grapes, while you find time to bad mouth the Europeans and everyone else, its important to note that the two biggest cheap shots in Game 5 of the Wings/Flames were Mclennan and - a poor excuse for a captain- Iginla, conveniently both are from Alberta. Is they what you guys teach up there, hockey without class or respect. Send those boys from Alberta down here to the Midwest and maybe they'll learn how to respect the game.
Posted April 22, 2007 05:00 PM
EMILE DI MONTE
WHY IS IT CHRIS SIMON GOT 25 GAMES AND
JAMIE MCLENNAN GETS 5 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
FOR THE SAME ACTION WHAT A JOKE.
THANK YOU.
LOU
Posted April 22, 2007 04:53 PM
Matthew
Indus
As a long time hockey player who has taken some liberties, and received them, WAY TO GO JAMIE MCLENNAN!!! and DAYMOND LANGKOW!!! Both players had to take matters into their own hands to give their team an advantage. YOu can bet Detroit forwards will be a bit more cautious going in front of Calgarys net....and nobody is going to try and cut anybodys legs out anymore. I can be sure that all you whiners out their saying that hockey is a "rollar derby on ice" and that players take "cheap shots" never played competitive hockey. Some scores need to be settled on the ice, Western Canadians have never backed down form anything, and aren't afraid to settle scores themselves. King Darryl knew that when he signed them. I'm sure he is proud of his players actions. Canada was born in the trenches, and hockey is often fought in the trenches. GO FLAMES GO
Posted April 22, 2007 04:38 PM
Dave G.
Do they always talk to you like this on here Don? Hockey is an exciting and provocative sport fueled by the sheer speed of it all. Tempers flare as the excitement of the playoffs rises into the air of the arenas. I agree that there have been a few cheap shots and unnecessary actions taken by certain players but in all honesty the game has cleaned up significantly and is much more exciting this year than it has been in years. P.S. If you don't like Don Cherry then don't watch him... but you'll be missing out!
Posted April 22, 2007 04:37 PM
sean langer
toronto
Detroit Got what they deserved! End of story.
The NHL has a serious problem in that they DO NOT protect the goalies at all. The worst penalty anyone gets for crashing the net is two minutes for goaltender interference. Detroit has continually taken advantage of the situation as they intentionally try to take kipper out. You haven't seen Calgary crashing the net ... have you??? Maybe they should. They could have run Hasek twenty times in through out the game and gotten a 10th of the attention.
What the Flames did to Detroit was to say if the Corporate NHL won't protect our goalie ... WE WILL
For all of those wining about the situation Detroit found themselves in ... the Flames didn't pick the fight but they will finish it!
Posted April 22, 2007 04:28 PM
Billy Kamleh
Grapes is not going to get on Mclennan's case because grapes knows this is playoff hockey. Someone had to send a message that it is not ok to run Kipper and crowd his crease...maybe this will get in maltby's head a little. It's do or die and Mclennan's actions warranted the penalty he recieved but good call from Playfair...it just happened that Mclennan was disposable. Kids...just like you're not supposed to fight in your league, you are not supposed to use your stick like that...it's for grown folks!
Posted April 22, 2007 04:24 PM
Cheetah
Nanaimo
First off, I watched the McLennan ‘incident’ several times and I saw absolutely no evidence that McLennan 'taped' him, he swatted him with his stick yes, but 'taped' him, no. Also, I have to disagree with the Wings’ fan who said that what happened as far as the Flames go was ‘rediculas’ (I’m sick of sports bloggers who can’t spell). What IS ‘rediculas’ is the number of times that Kiprusoff has been hit in this series. I watched game five over again and I have to give credit to Babcock. Every time that a Wing player and a Flames defender went to the Calgary net the Wing tried to push the Flame into Kiprusoff, pure genius, seriously. While I don’t condone some of the things that went on, I don’t blame the Flames for losing their composure, and $100,000, are you kidding me, did Buffalo or Ottawa get that much for the Sugar Ray Emery incident?
Posted April 22, 2007 04:17 PM
Trent Prefontaine
Calgary
Noodles is my hero.
I want to have Don's babies.
Posted April 22, 2007 04:10 PM
Lloyd Esau and family
Winnipeg
Before the last home game (the Don) said Calgary should be embarrased about there prior performance and would come out flying.Well we all saw what happened, Calgary looked like they accually wanted too play similar to Ottawa.Great plays and dominated the game.Hoping (the Don) is gonna be right again.We always look forwards too the first intermission for his comments. Oh and you too Ron. Luv ya guys...keep up the great work.
Posted April 22, 2007 04:00 PM
Tony
Calgary
Don
I realise you recorded this prior to the NHL handing down it's judgement on noodles. However after seein the decision, I just have to comment on the price calgary is paying.
1. I believe the suspension and fine to both the team and Jim Playfair excessive.
2. I think the faulty judgement by the NHL may have a further price. The price being a determental effect on the players mental and the team overall.
3. I know also the possibility exists that the fans in the dome will help the team turn a negative into a positive. I hope this will be the case!
Your thoughts please.
I am off to work security for the Red mile so I can't watch the game but only one thing more to say.
Go Flames Go
Posted April 22, 2007 03:35 PM
Brendt Sonnenberg
Hey Ron,
Where does the money go when players, coaches, and organizationz get fined?
Posted April 22, 2007 03:24 PM
Gin
Calgary
Why Calgary get such a heavy fined and penalty? This is too much! No one in thier right mind can accept NHL decision.
Posted April 22, 2007 03:20 PM
Rick
PQB
I know hockey is a contact sport, but chopping an opponent in the stomach, sucker punching, hacking someone from behind or cross checking to injure are not tactics to enhance this sport. If a team wants to 'send a message' to a opponent then try playing hockey.
This comment is in reference to Calgary's disgrace to hockey Apr.21
Posted April 22, 2007 03:19 PM
chad lees
Hey don its me chad, how are you? the red wings are playing well eh
Posted April 22, 2007 02:38 PM
Anne B. Graber
Houston,Tx.
As a die-hard Canadain I have been relegated to living in the U.S. for the last two decades and have the urge to add my comments. I became a U.S. citizen sheerly for legalities. Growing up in Ontario I became a hockey addict. It is with utter disgust then that I have seen hockey, CANADA'S game, become what it has. In order to attract the unsophistacated American audience we have played into their hands by allowing the game to become a blood sport more concerned by the melees that usually ensue any game, notably the playoffs. I understand that occasionally a man has to take a stand but to pander the the American audience the way the NHL is nothing short of disgusting and demoralizing. It is then true, money can buy anything including a diminished sense of morals and ethics; it is at last what America does best. I would much rather have hockey less popular and more the way I knew it in days of yore. I greatly appreciate this site and keeps me connected to what and how the world really is. I also, after reading the majority of comments,recognize that the world is much more literate and sophisticated than it primarily is here.
Posted April 22, 2007 02:13 PM
blaine taylor
calgary
I don't always agree with Don Cherry. Who would? However I did read the piece in the New York Times Sunday Magazine section about Dick Pound. This time I know Don is right in saying that Pound just picked the figures out of thin air.
Since this article is a couple of months old I wonder no one bought this to his attention before.
Posted April 22, 2007 02:02 PM
C Montalbano
Saginaw
Would Mr. Cherry say a player was "just tapped" if he were the Canadian and the goalie European?
I have always had a great deal of respect for the way Iginla plays hockey and comports himself as a leader. NOT ANYMORE. How totally classless was his attack on Schneider, and his subsequent "I didn't do it, I didn't do it" interviews after it became clear he was caught.
Will the NHL suits step up? Doubtful. Double standards abound.
This was not playoff hockey. This was thug hockey. Flames' fans deserve better.
Posted April 22, 2007 01:40 PM
bob hansen
detroit
don,wake up to reality.if the nhl wants any kind of major tv contract,which they need badly,they need to clean up the cheap goon tactics.hard suspensions are needed so these jerks get the picture.everyone loves the fast pace game.if you can't keep up,maybe you need more skating lessons.or just try another sport.
Posted April 22, 2007 12:57 PM
Edward
Calgary
In response to some of the comments regarding the hit by Jamie McLennen. If it was as vicious and terrible a hack as someone stated, the target would not have been back up talking to his comrades immediately afterwards. I've seen hits with goalie sticks, both while I played in minor hockey and at the NHL level, and if the goalie wants to hurt you, he will (see Ron Hextall or Billy Smith for this). The point he was making was that the Wings players are the dirtiest in the league and have been slashing and crashing Kiprusoff all series with an intent to remove him from play. If the refs insist on protecting the wings instead of the goalies, then the players have to take the protection upon themselves.
Posted April 22, 2007 12:36 PM
Kris
BC
It seems to me that if the NHL is not going to protect the goaltenders and my flames won't protet their best player in the series so far, Kipper, then it comes down on the netminder to protect themselves. I like what Mclennean did, I just don't like that he had to do it. The Flames are being run into their goalie, the answer is not to rn Hasek but to grow up, strap on a set and not allow yourself to be run into your guy! I like Iginla trying to pick a fight to get the team fired up, but noone on thise Wings team want to throw mitts, so a hit from behind? Not exactly going to accomplish the desired result. And Langkow, a sucker punch for sure, and a penalty no doubt, but after bing hit way too low with the sole aim of taking the knee, a good penalty! Flames, stop being bullied by these Wings and play like Sutter taught you!
Posted April 22, 2007 11:56 AM
S.D
Don, I find that the two biggest cheap shot artists in Game 5 of the Wings/Flames series happened to "Captain" Iginla and Mclennan, both who derive from Alberta. Is that how they teach hockey out there or is this just
some coincidence. These western Canadian hockey players seem to have a lack of class and respect, here in the midwest we build character and morals on the ice with those two values.
Posted April 22, 2007 11:49 AM
Kevin McCracken
Don,
I have been a fan of yours ever since I was a little boy watching HNIC on Saturday nights until my parents made me go to bed.
Your dismissal of McLennan's cheap shot, and the overall goonery of the Flames last night, is inexcusable. I can only chalk it up to the fact that you feel the need to pump up the Canadian team in the equation for your viewers up north.
But you lose credibility with your fans when you do that and I wonder, would your response have been different if the Wings were the team laying the lumber and cheapshots?
I trust you will keep this same biased attitude when you're on NBC during the Cup Finals talking to am American audience?
Posted April 22, 2007 11:38 AM
Thomas
Lethbridge
I agree with Don on this one. Hockey is a tough and agressive sport, if you high stick the goalie you better have a bed ready at the closest hospital. He was just lucky that the defence-man missed it or it could have been a line brawl. The ice is a battle filed and people have died playing the game. That is just reality.
Posted April 22, 2007 11:29 AM
Greg
Accountant
After seeing all of the games in the Calgary-Detroit series, I am surprised that Kiprusoff has been so calm. As a goalie in my teen-years, there's one rule: if you crowd my crease or if you push my defencemen into me, expect to get some lumber on you. Two thumbs down on the referees for not making Holmstrom and Franzen permanent residents in the penalty box.
Posted April 22, 2007 11:19 AM
Wendy Loy
I'm trying to get in touch with Don Cherry. My 16 year old nephew who is a Hockey fan was paralyzed at school on April 4 2007. He is in a London Ontario hospital and a message from Mr. Cherry would sure help lift his spirits. I have tried to contact the Maple Leafs (his favorite team) but have been unsuccessful. Please send Mr. Cherry this e-mail. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
Yours truly, Wendy Loy
Posted April 22, 2007 11:11 AM
t.kush
Don, and cbc,
I am a 40 year Canadian cbc hockey fan, and love coaches corner. Yesterday, i was appalled and embarrased at the one-sided commentary and blatant excuse for a terrible slashing penalty during the Flames/Red Wings game. Was it because the Flames are a Canadian team?! Even my 12 year old son was astonished at the brushing off of McLennan's actions. Perhaps the comment that it was 'just a tap' should be followed up with,'but kids, slashing like that is unsportsmanlike, it's dangerous, and it's inexcusable'.
Posted April 22, 2007 11:07 AM
John Anderson
Michigan
Something that I haven't heard mentioned for this sort of situation is the possibility that in the playoffs perhaps penalties should carry over into the next game. Perhaps at the moment this is not necessary, but if the issue becomes more out of hand it would deter "sending a message" penalties in games that are already in essence over.
Posted April 22, 2007 10:34 AM
Jeff Rice
Calgary
When did hockey lose its competitive edge? It seems that you really can't touch guys on the ice anymore. "North American hockey" as it was used to be called, looks a lot like the Europeen brand a number of years ago. Even in the scoring days of Gretzky and the Oilers there was hits and hard nosed hockey, no you cannot touch a guy. It is becoming not as interesting to watch. Scoring is up and that is great, but the edge and the price is gone. The only series that had any interest in watching was the Nsh vs SJ, and that only lasted for the first two games. The media in hockey need to tune themselves back into why we watch and why we like the sport. Quit buying into the suspension hype and show the great plays, hits and saves, the players competing in a sport that is hard to play. I guess it may be time to turn my Flames tickets in, and find a new sport to worship.
Posted April 22, 2007 10:18 AM
June Ruiz
Jerome Iginla is a disgrace as a captain.He is so predictable. I told my son with 3 minutes left and the score 5-1, to watch Iginla. He's going to go nuts and start cross checking and slashing everyone in Red when he gets on the ice. Sure enough. Ask yourself could you ever picture Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman,Joe Sakic, (should I continue) butt ending another player, repeatedly cross checking another play who's skating down the ice with under two minutes left. Also I doubt Playfair will be coaching in the NHL very long.
Posted April 22, 2007 10:07 AM
Lord Stanley
Grapes, I've been around hockey along time as you know. I have to disagree with your comments regarding McLennan. That was a malicious attack that was thought out while on the bench. The stick to his face was a result of contact by the Calgary defenseman and was no worse than the elbow from Iginla on Hasek in game 4. Both Coach Playfair and goalie McLennan should be suspended for game 6. I say this because Playfair is responsible for his players actions and chances are he knew this was going to happen. I have been a fan of yours for a long time and for you to just push this aside as a minor incident is inexcusable. Calgary has been playing goon hockey since this series started. I'm sure Cannada is very proud of that style hockey. Iginla is leading the way with by his actions with many cheap shots of his own. Nice captain leadership, show your team how to be bozos on the ice. It all reflects back on Canada. One last thing, the officiating in this series has been a joke, when calling 4,5 or 6 penalties in a row to one team. Disgusting.
Posted April 22, 2007 09:15 AM
Judi
Let's hope we just saw the end of McLennan's career. "Cheap shot" is too tame a phrase to characterize his conduct. I thought this guy was supposed to be a professional.
GO WINGS!!!!
Posted April 22, 2007 02:18 AM
Eric F.
Don is 100% right. Goalies take liberties on guys in front of them all the time to even the playing field, so when he was called for the penalty, seems to me that he simply wanted to get his "money's worth".
To call it vicious and say he lost his mind is extreme, if he had lost his mind, then that would have easily been at his head.
Then I would agree, the guy is nuts.
I also think hockey has become a complete joke, thanks in large part to all the politics associated with calling penalties. Hockey "had" the best officials in all of sport at one time, now hockey is BY FAR the worst officiated sport on the planet, almost seems like they (NHL) have an agenda.
If it continues, then I won't bother with my kid playing this circus game, or maybe just send him abroad. That's how pathetic this is.
Posted April 22, 2007 02:13 AM
jack fitzgerald
wasn't iginlia involved in some shenanigans, also?
Posted April 22, 2007 01:12 AM
Jason
Well first off for starters. It's good that we get the hockey package where I live for the 2nd year. And I enjoy listening and Watching CBC Hockey night in Canada. But too bad can't watch the games online cause it says in Canada only. But anyway Don And Ron keep it up. You guys do a great job. Especally Mr Cherry about comments that always truthful knows what to say.
Ok now on today I thought putting in McLennan over Kiprsuoff with not much time left. I thought was a great move so, he could be ready for game 6. But today uncalled for that. Yes he should be suspended for that. Then, Calgary will have to call there goalie up to back up. It's not right. Infact for the first time in a while. Haven't seen this many fights or In the San Jose vs Nashville series 3 Preds were thrown out of the game on miscoundcuts. And normally, you don't see that in the nhl anymore. But in the playoffs Wow alot. And now I know Bredan Morrow was upset what happend, and getting helped off the ice. But now with Vancouver Jeff Cowan I think did it. Was throwing punches while on the bench. Can't do that. That might be a suspension too. I mean maybe come 2nd round. It will be calmer. And of course, I am a Rangers fan. And hoping Sean Avery doesn't stir trouble. Oh yeah forgot too Iginla's cross check on Matthieu Schinder. Uncessary cross check.
Oh yes Chris Chelios at age 45 scored a goal today. It's great he can continue to play hockey.
Posted April 22, 2007 12:20 AM
matt
toronto
starring in slpashot 3...the calgary flames playing the role of the charlestown chiefs.
from the head coach to the back up goalie...this team is classless. iginla is a sore loser, cry baby, whiner and i hope he is suspended for game 6 for the but-end...although it didnt injure, it was done on purpose and was meant to cause harm to the opponent. what a joke the last 5 minutes were!!!!!
Posted April 22, 2007 12:12 AM
Jim Dennis
Mr. Cherry...I have been a life long fan and thoroughly enjoy Coaches Corner. I was real curious as to what you were going to say about the CLASSLESS performance by the Calgary Flames in game 5. You "excuse" a back-up goalie for about as cheap a shot as you could see and say not one word about Jerome Iginla's butt end and cross check on Schneider. You know darn well if the roles were reversed or this had been done to one of the Canadian teams you would have gone on one of your infamous rants. Calgary played like a bunch of street thugs and the Flames organization should pay the price!!
Posted April 21, 2007 11:52 PM
Adom Giffin
Don, common on. I know you will take a bullet for any Canadian team but give me a break. I'm sure McLennan just got him in the chest protection but do you call that good hockey? At first I thought it was a smart move by "Playfair" but soon realized that Jim sent him out to be a suicide bomber. Jim should get fined for this at least. You don't think Hasek was getting hit after every play in his end? I know Jerome would have to kill someone before he got a suspension for this series. But as he said, "just trying to start some fights." With who? Schneider? Oh yeah, you certainly showed your toughness there Iggy. Maybe you can take on someone your own size next time, like, ...um....Datsyuk. Yea, that would really show your metal!
Posted April 21, 2007 11:45 PM
derek wentz
calagary
I thought the days of the FLYERS were done. If Iginla dosnt get suspended next game then the NHL might as well throw out the new rules. If Cleary tossed a butt end to Kiper you know the guy would be out for at least two.
Posted April 21, 2007 11:31 PM
derek wentz
calagary
What do you think Don, I was a Calgary Flame fan until last night because there is a difereance between playing strong and playing stupip. What are they representing the fans or a bunch of want a bee's. This is not the way I want to see my son play hockey, when your out you just stick the opistion for the hell of it. Instead of trying to intimitade Ditroit you might just want to get a few more shots on Hasek and I'm sure they would come out better ahead.
Posted April 21, 2007 11:28 PM
Mike
Detroit
Little tap? McClellan two handed him with a goal stick. Even bringing up Franzen's contact with his face mask is equivalent to saying Iginla's elbow to Hasek's head in game 4 should have been a penalty.
Interesting how your side of the fence changes your view. I think Lebda's "clip" was questionable and the call on Maltby for goaltender interference was ridiculous. You guys excuse the Flames by saying the Wings are running Kip, but most of the time they are pushed in from the Cleary incident in game 1 to the bad call on Maltby today. You could easily call the first goal in Calgary as interference easier than calling Maltby.
Let's face it, McClenan was in there to chop the first guy who got within reach of his stick and he was sent to do so by Playfair. And that extracurricular on Schneider by Iginla was pretty classless as well. If you want to get in a fight, stand toe to toe with Lilija or Bert and drop the gloves. This wasn't about picking a fight to get your guys up for game 6... if you need to do that to get up for a possible elimination game in front of your home fans, you don't deserve to move on. There was intent to injure these guys and it starts with the coach, goes right through the captain and on to Langkow with that gloved uppercut to Lebda.
If the Flames feel they have to do this to win, I guess it's pretty obvious that the Wings are the better team.
Posted April 21, 2007 11:27 PM
Marilyn Cole
Mr. Cherry, thank you for your tribute on "Coaches Corner" to my nephew, Anthony Klumpenhouwer who was a member of the Special Forces who was killed in Afghanistan this week. Anthony was a very kind, loving, family-oriented, quick-witted, intelligent person who was also a gentleman. He will be greatly missed by his family and extended family. This is a very difficult and private time for the family right now, but I sent them the website address to hear your tribute to Anthony. Thank you for recognizing his work in Afghanistan. I think it is wonderful of you to do this for our soldiers who have given their lives for our country. Thank You!
Posted April 21, 2007 11:27 PM
Joseph Pizzoferrato
Toronto
After following the play-offs so far I have to say that the players in this day and age have no respect for each other. I have never seen so many late hits, hits from behind, hits to the head, in all the years I have followed hockey.
The NHL is becoming more of an extreme sport where violence rules.
Posted April 21, 2007 11:24 PM
Andy
Don, one thing I have always liked about you is that you try to teach the kids the proper way to play hockey. So when my son asks me if it is ok that he just taps the opposing player across the chest with his goalie stick, after the whistle is blown, what should I tell him? I was saddened to hear you justify that type of playing in the game both you and I love.
Posted April 21, 2007 11:23 PM
brazeneye
Calgary
At the end of tonight's Coach's Corner from the end of the Vancouver/Dallas game; who did Cherry say would win Game 7? Dallas, or Vancouver?
Posted April 21, 2007 11:16 PM
Jean-Christophe Cloutier
Hi, I'm a French-Canadian boy doing his PhD here in hockey-mad Buffalo and I tune in for every game. At the end of tonight's broadcast, after the Turco interview, there was footage of various players and their superstitions I believe. Ron said something about French-Canadian players talking in French to goalies before games, but I missed some of it. Could someone let me know what the back story to that is?
Let me know if you guys need a correspondent down here!
JC Cloutier
P.S. Don, heard you on Jim Rome this week on the radio. Great job. By the way, your comment regarding "Mario's daughter" was also featured in the New York Times a couple of weeks ago.
Posted April 21, 2007 10:55 PM
Penny Carson
I have a question about hockey sticks on the ice. I can see that a broken stick should not be used in the game, but why can't a stick in good condition be picked up so that the player can continue using it in the game?
Posted April 21, 2007 10:47 PM
Eduard Pfeffer
It's a shame, that a team with the talent of calgary, when faced with an imbarrasing lose as today, would literly turn themselves into goons.
not only does McLennan deserve a multable game suspension, so should Iginla, I doubt that Im the only hockey fan to see that after he slashed(twice), he also dove into a wing player, this was not a ploy to psych his team for game 6, he had intent to injure another player to better his chances to force a deciding game seven.
Posted April 21, 2007 10:41 PM
mike
vancouver
The refs ruin the game. 1 minute into the game they dish out a 2 man power play to dallas, same as game 1 or 2 and 4, then all the boarding, interference isn't called the whole game. Krajick is interferred with, then miraculously in the last 4 minutes the refs kill the game by calling penalties so there's no game.
Guess they don't want anyone watching hockey anymore?
Posted April 21, 2007 10:37 PM
Rick
Kingston,Ontario
This question is for Don Cherry. Don you said on one of your show's that it is stupid to go out and hit a top player say like jagr or sundin or one top player. Why ? You grew up playing hockey and you know that it is a contact sport. Hockey is hard hitting and no player should be treated different. Once you get on that ice its each player's job to stop that other guy from scoring. If you can't be hit then get out of hockey and join a swimming team. If you send one of your big guy's out to stop a player like jagr do it it thats what you got to do. who care's if jagr cry's. Change his diaper and send him home.
Posted April 21, 2007 10:09 PM
Russ
BC
Watching the playoffs this year I have come to the conclusion that hockey has become a joke. Can we say goon it up?? Let's go out and take a run at another player and hurt him with a cheap shot. Especially to his head so we can put him out of the game and end his career. No wonder hockey is such a joke in the united states. Even lawn bowling has higher ratings. It's become roller derby on ice. I used to enjoy watching hockey. Not anymore. All these so called "hockey players" who run at others and take cheap shots, should be suspended for life from ever playing the game of hockey. Instead they should be made to put on a army uniform and be sent off to fight in afghanistan. Then we will see how though they are. They'll soon be dressed as a woman with a one way ticket to sweden. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it don cherry. Beauty!!!
Posted April 21, 2007 10:02 PM
Thomas Morpus Jr.
Detroit,Michigan
Don I have been a fan for a long long time but the comment made today about Calgarys McLennan was just rediculas....he went bezerk even before the stick came up....he slashed Franzen 3 time before the whistle blew! it wasn't the stick that got him going nuts. He had something in mind before he even hit the ice. He either thought it was a way to get his teams head back in the game or he felt it was his only chance to ever get into a playoff game so he was going to make the most of it.
Posted April 21, 2007 09:53 PM
Barb Miller
For Don Cherry to say that the substitute goalie for Calgary Flames just taped the Detroit player is a falsehood and to say this on national TV is disgraceful. I was at that game after waiting many years to see the Flames in person. I was shocked and ashamed. It was a vicious penalty and any suspension is deserved. When a Canadian does wrong don't excuse him because he is Canadian. It sends the wrong message to our children.
Posted April 21, 2007 09:49 PM