Evgeny Morozov is the author of the much-discussed new book, The Net Delusion: The Dark Side of Internet Freedom, and a visiting scholar at Stanford University. In the book, he critiques what he sees as a sort of cyber-utopianism, a tendency to see the internet simply in terms of its democratizing power. He explores the way repressive regimes can use the internet, and social media in particular, as tools for censorship, surveillance, and spin.

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