Jian speaks with Russell Simmons,
Def Jam label co-founder-turned-entertainment mogul, who has dialled the volume all the way down for his latest venture. The hip-hop pioneer has come to deeply value meditation -- so much so that he's co-written a book on the topic: Success Through Stillness: Meditation Made Simple
Simmons tells Jian he originally started taking yoga classes "cause there were so many hot chicks" but found himself increasingly taken by notions of stillness and how they relate to success.
Cloudiness or clarity
Meditation became, Simmons says, a healthier way to work through the things buzzing in his mind.
"That's the reason I got so high when I was a kid. Cause you wanna numb the noise, don't you? I mean, that's why you drink, to quiet the mind. And it's why you ride a bicycle. It's why you do anything: it's to get the noise out of your head," he says.
"When the noise is settled, then bliss sets in, and when the mind is noisy, then sickness and sadness sets in."
Although some assume hip hop and meditation are at odds, Simmons says the two actually make a lot of sense together. He also explains how people with a public profile can help promote the public interest, even if they're not obvious ambassadors.
Listen to Jian's full conversation with Simmons by clicking on the listen button above, and tell us: do you meditate? How did you become interested in it? Do you, like Simmons, have a mantra that helps you turn cloudiness to clarity?