RRSPs and TFSAs: Figuring out your savings plan
- February 4, 2009 3:38 PM |
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March 2 is this year's deadline for contributing to your RRSP. This year you can also contribute to a tax-free savings account, or TFSA.
Which one makes the most sense for you? What's the difference? How can you make the best personal investments in the current economic climate?

Tina Tehranchian is a certified financial planner and holds a Master of Arts in communications from University of Portland, in Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. She has taught personal financial planning at Centennial College's Centre for Entrepreneurship for over ten years, and has been the recipient of numerous academic and professional awards.
She took your questions on RRSPs, TFSAs, and financial planning.
Read her answers below.
Before acting on any of the information, please make sure to see a professional advisor for individual financial advice based on your personal circumstances.
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Comments (20)
For the TFSA, which asset class would make the most sense to contribute. My assumtion would be non-divident bearing stocks, for the higher tax rate these pay on capital gains.
But I haven't seen any indication of this, all the banks seem to be pushing cash, which seem to be the worst use of this vehicle.
Tina Tehranchian: When it comes to growth, stocks have beaten cash instruments over the long term. However, interest income generated by cash instruments is fully taxable whereas only 50% of realized capital gains are included in your income which means you will pay half as much tax on your capital gains when you sell the stocks in your portfolio.
So from a tax perspective, it would be more tax effective to shelter interest income in a TFSA than capital gains or dividend income that are taxed at more favourable rates. Also, keep in mind that if you invest in growth stocks that do not pay dividends, your growth is effectively tax sheltered until you sell your stocks so the tax sheltering inside the TFSA would not be of a benefit in this case. In addition, if you incur a loss on the sale of your stocks you cannot write off the losses against future gains inside a TFSA as it is a tax neutral vehicle.
Therefore if you have a mix of cash, bonds and stocks in your non-registered portfolio it would make sense to shelter the interest income generated by the cash and bonds in the TFSA. On the other hand if you expect very high growth on your stock portfolio then having the stocks inside your TFSA will help lessen the capital gains taxes you would pay when you eventually sell them.
I'd like to use my RRSP funds to invest in good quality corporate bonds since this is probably the only way I will get a greater than 5% return over the next five years.
Should I do ETF's or try and locate good companies? Any suggestions?
Tina Tehranchian: The main difference between buying corporate bonds directly versus investing in an ETF that tracks the growth of a basket of corporate bonds is that when you own the actual bond, your coupon and principal are fully guaranteed by the corporation that is issuing the bond so if you hold the bond to maturity your only risk is default risk in case the corporation declares bankruptcy and defaults on the bond.
In an ETF, the basket of bonds is valued on a daily basis so the value of your investment will fluctuate based on interest rate fluctuations and you may have to sell at a loss if interest rates are higher than when you purchased the bond at the time that you need to cash your ETF.
The ETF route however will provide you with a low cost way of diversifying your corporate bond portfolio and minimizing default risk and the commissions as you have to pay commissions on the purchase and redemption of each single corporate bond so if you want to own several of them in your portfolio it can end up being much costlier than purchasing an ETF.
I have $40,000 in student loans. My wife is in medical school. I just started working and am making $50,000 year. I want to reduce my debt load and at the same time save for a downpayment on a home. Given my situation should I invest in TFSA's? Could you suggest another option if my goal is to purchase a home in the next 3-4 years?
Thanks
Tina Tehranchian: The good thing about student loans is that you will get a tax credit on the interest on pay on your loan. However, you need to reduce your loan balance to qualify for a mortgage based on your income and debt level. The TFSA is a great savings vehicle for saving for a down payment on a home. You can also use the RSP home Buyers Plan. The 2009 Federal Budget has increased the amount you can borrow from your RRSP under the Home Buyers Plan from $20,000 to $25,000. At your tax bracket, you can get a 31% tax refund on up to $10,000 of RRSP contributions.
You can use the savings from your RRSP contributions to pay down your debt. Since you plan to withdraw any savings in the next 3 to 4 years to purchase a home you should invest in very conservative instruments in your RRSP. Once you have accumulated the $25000 in your RRSP and reduced your student loan balance then you should use the TFSA as a savings vehicle.
In regards to TFSAs:
Is it possible to have more than one TFSA account? For example, if I have one TFSA savings account, and from the Savings account, I want to transfer money into a TFSA GIC, is that possible? Would it affect my $5000 per year limit if it's a transfer between TFSA accounts?
Tina Tehranchian: Yes, it is possible to have multiple TFSA accounts. However, the maximum you can contribute each year to all of your TFSA accounts is still $5000. If you set up a self-directed TFSA you can own different types of instruments including savings, GICs, bonds, mutual funds and stocks all in the same plan. Most institutions are not charging any trustee fees for their self-directed TFSAs so it would be worth your while to look into this option as it will make keeping track of your savings and moving money between different asset classes much easier than having multiple TFSA accounts and having to complete paperwork and wait weeks each time you want to move money from one to the other.
I am going to contribute to a spousal RSP in 2009. If I withdraw any income the RSP generates in 2009 and 2010,will the income be taxed to my wife or myself.
Tina Tehranchian: Any withdrawals from a spousal RRSP in the year of contribution and two calendar years after the contribution will be taxed to the contributing spouse. Therefore, in your case, any withdrawals in 2009 and 2010 up to the amount that you contributed in 2009 will be taxed as your income as the contributor to your wife’s RRSP.
For the first time in my life I'm having trouble organizing my finances for tax season.
My current situation:
- 30 years old on Feb 23
- $450,000 house
- $160,000 cottage
- $5000 stocks
- $7000 pension
- $48,000 used of $120,000 HELOC on cottage (prime)
- $20,000 Credit card debt @ 0% until April 2010
- $800 Savings Account
- $6,000 Chequing account
- Approx $25,000 RRSP after 25% loss
- $366/month property tax
- $300/month utilities
- $200/month parking
- $300/month gas
- $5000 + overtime pretax income
Do I borrow for RRSP's and put the ~40% ROI (if contributing enough to drop me 1 tax bracket) back into my HELOC, do I max out my contribution room (around $18,000) by borrowing from my HELOC... do I leave everything as is? I have no idea what to do this year.
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Bob, it looks like you really need to talk to a certified financial planner. You seem to have a good asset base and low debt (assuming you have no mortgage as there is no information about your mortgage balance and mortgage payments) for some one at your age. You have taken the first steps in putting together a balance sheet and cash flow statement but there are some important pieces of information missing that would impact the right financial planning advice for you, such as your financial and life goals, your marital status, your risk tolerance, etc.
I suggest you visit the Financial Planners Standards Council web site at www.cfp-ca.org and look up a CFP professional in your area to help you put together an overall plan to address your short term and long term financial goals so you won’t be in a scramble next February with the exact same questions. In the mean time, you may want to think about contributing your $5000 worth of stocks to your RRSP in kind to get a tax deduction for it. If you have gains on the stocks the capital gains will be realized and 50% of the gain will be added to your income in 2009 and you have to pay tax on it but if you have a loss on them you will not be able to write off the loss against future gains. If you borrow $13,000 to contribute to your RRSP then your total refund will be 40% of $18,000 or $7200.
You can use this amount to reduce the RRSP loan to $5800. You have to make sure you can pay this off in a year as the interest on an RRSP loan is not tax deductible. As you see the issues involved are more complicated than just a simple decision about what amount to contribute to your RRSP and where to get the financing from so I strongly recommend that you talk to a CFP professional and put a proper financial plan together.
Hi Tina...I'm currently at a crossroads and not sure which way to go from here.
Situation:
I'm 33 years old, about to get married and looking to start a family in the next year or so.
I just spent the last year paying off my credit card debt. As of last week zero balance!! I've also put some aside every paycheck towards an emergency fund that now has roughly 3-4 months worth of mortgage payments set aside. My RRSP contributions are the basic employee contribution plus a 2% company match. Nothing special. The total balance of my RRSP's are roughly $28K right now. I also have about 3 years left on my car loan and a small amount on a line of credit which adds up to about $50 a month payment in interest.
Now that I have my credit cards paid off, I'm wondering what is my best option for redistributing my card payments to? I could have my line of credit paid off within a year if i divert it towards that. Or should i put more towards an RRSP or some kind of tax write off investment in this economy? Should I put extra into my mortgage? I'm going to transfer my nest egg into a TFSA so that will max that out. Pay my car off, which would take about 16 months? Keep adding some to my nest egg and split the rest?
I'm currently not house poor with my payments and 50/50 on job security right now.
Tina Tehranchian: Congratulations on paying off your credit card debt and building up an emergency fund. Although you have provided quite a bit of information about your personal finances, you have not provided enough information for me to be able to give you proper advice. For example, the interest rate you are paying on your line of credit and mortgage, the amount of money you will need to pay for your wedding and most importantly your annual income that determines your tax bracket and the type of refund you would be entitled to by contributing to your RRSP. Transferring your non-registered savings to a TFSA is definitely a good move and will help shelter the interest income from taxes.
If you are in a high tax bracket contributing to your RRSP could result in over 40% in tax savings that you can use to pay down your line of credit. However, as mentioned before you have not provided all the information necessary for a proper recommendation. Since you are at an important juncture at your life and are getting married soon now is a good time to sit down with a certified financial planner in your area and review your financial goals and set up solid strategies for reaching those goals.
Given the economic conditions what specific factors should determine whether your RRSP and /or TFSA should be invested in Equities (stocks or ETFs) or Money Market funds?
Tina Tehranchian: Although the economic conditions always play a role in terms of what you should invest in, the most important factors that should determine your asset allocation are your time horizon, liquidity and income needs and risk tolerance level. Once you have set your strategic asset allocation goals on this basis then you can rebalance your portfolio to your target asset mix on an ongoing basis without constantly trying to time the market.
Tactical asset allocation that involves market timing can be very tricky and has less chance of success on a consistent basis over the long term. Taxation of your investments is another important factor too. Therefore, you should try and hold all your interest bearing and fixed income investments inside your TFSA and RRSP to fully shelter the interest income from taxes.
How to determine what amount should be put into an RRSP? Where will I see the most benifit?
Tina Tehranchian: Taxation of income in Canada is done on a graduated basis. Therefore you can achieve optimal tax savings by contributing enough money to your RRSP to reduce your taxable income to the next lower tax bracket. This is purely from a tax savings stand point though. Depending on what your retirement income needs, debt level and overall financial situation are, you may need to contribute more or less to your RRSP.
I have a RRSP, a TFSA and a Brokerage account. I make nearly 1800 a month in dividend and royalty payments, most of that is in my RRSP and TFSA. I have no significant debt.
I like General Electric as a stock but i don't like the withholding tax of 30%. Will i pay the withholding tax if i have the stock in my TFSA?
Tina Tehranchian: This is a great question. A withholding tax of 30% applies to U.S. dividends/interest paid to non-residents. However, if you fill out a W-8BEN form (which you can obtain from your brokerage or download from IRS’ web site) you can certify your non-U.S. status to IRS in order to claim tax treaty benefits such as reduced withholding tax on dividends paid by U.S. corporations and have the withholding tax reduced to 15%.
The withheld amount will be used to reduce the tax owed on the distribution so there will be no double taxation. Therefore, simply by filling out the W-8BEN form you can free up 15% of your distribution. If you hold U.S. dividend paying stocks inside your RRSP or TFSA, the dividends will not face any withholding tax. So you can go ahead and buy the General Electric stock in your TFSA account.
Hello and thank you for your time.
1)If you have dividend funds in your RRSP account, what happens to the dividends? Are they just paid out and you decide what you want to purchase with them within your account or can you have an automatic dividend reinvestment back into that company set-up?
Tina Tehranchian: Mutual fund distributions are automatically reinvested in the same fund in an RRSP account so your distributions will purchase more units of the same fund for you. You can choose to receive the monthly distributions from dividend funds in cash and in that case they will be deposited in your account and you can decide what to reinvest them in.
I make $75000/year. I have $50000 in student loans. I want to max my contribution to my RRSP to save and reduce tax burden. Should I pay down debt or save. Keep in mind this is safe debt. That is, if I lose my job, I can simply go into interest relief status and not make any payments until financially feasible.
Cheers
Tina Tehranchian: Eric, I agree with you that student loans are the best type of loans. On top of the safety feature that you mentioned the interest is eligible for tax credit which makes it very attractive at your tax bracket. It would make sense for you to maximize your RRSP contributions and use the tax refund to pay down your debt. That way you can address both of your goals of saving for the future and paying down your debt.
I lost my job a few months back and am having trouble make ends meet. My wife is still working. The bills are coming fast and furious. We have a home worth 400k with a mortgage of 252k at 5.1%. RRSP combined worth about 50k (was worth 25%-30% more). Unsecured debt of 25k (at rates of 0.9 to 1.9 APR that will last until May) then go up. Currently operating at a deficit each month of around $1500-$2000. Should I use available lines of credit to substitute income (lines of credit worth 35k with zero balance and rates ranging between 5% and 8%) or cash in some of my RRSP to avoid going further into debt.
Tina Tehranchian: Dear JP, unfortunately many people are in your situation these days and it can be very stressful. The first step for you should be to try to reduce your expenses. You may have already tried to do this but reviewing your spending and cutting down to the bare bones should be the first step. With regards to cashing your RRSP, I would leave that as the last option because any withdrawal will be added to your income this year and you will have to pay tax on it.
In addition you will lose that RRSP contribution room forever and cannot make it up in the future. It is still early in the year and hopefully you will be able to find a job soon. However, if time passes and you haven’t found a job yet, you can always resort to withdrawing funds from your RRSP and paying down any debt that you will incur in the coming months.
At least at that point you will be sure that you will be in a lower tax bracket this year due to not working for several months and the tax hit from your RRSP withdrawals will be less. Hopefully if the markets recover a bit in the next few months you will not have to sell at a steep loss either.
Is it worthwhile to open a TFSA if I don't have the $5000 to put into it right away? Would I be better sticking with my RRSP contributions ($150/month)? I make 40,000/yeah and am also hoping to have paid off my credit card debt ($8000) by July, and still have 2 years of car payments to make, after which point I will direct more money into RRSP's (or TFSA... which ever is better!?). I also put $150/month away into a savings account for emergencies, but would that be better in the TFSA? I dip into it (and re-stock it) on a regular bases, so wouldn't want to be penalized for doing so.
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Danielle, you are doing the right thing by concentrating on paying down all your debt first. Continue with your RRSP contributions as in your tax bracket in Manitoba, you will benefit from a 27.75% tax savings on those contributions. The money that you are saving for emergencies can be sheltered from taxes in a TFSA.
You can invest the savings in your TFSA in a high interest savings account that pays you interest while your money is in the account and can be redeemed at any time with no penalty. The good thing about a TFSA is that you can withdraw your funds and will not lose your contribution room and can replace it in the future. You also don’t need to put a lump sum $5,000 into a TFSA and can start with a lesser amount or set up a monthly contribution plan.
My question is regarding purchasing my first home. My husband and I are both in our mid 20's and are currently saving for a down payment. We have already opened TFSA's and put in the max $5000 each. Otherwise, we have about $50k in our Savings Account and we have absolutely no debt (nothing owing on our credit cards, student loans paid off, etc.) If our income (together) is about $80k per year, what else should we be doing in order to maximize our savings to purchase our first home? I have never had an RRSP, should we be contributing to one as a way of saving money?
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Lindsay, congratulations to you and your husband for having no debt and for having saved a good amount for the down payment on your first home. Assuming that you each earn $40,000, if you each contribute $25,000 to your RRSP, you will benefit from $6250 in tax savings (based on a marginal tax bracket of 25% in Alberta).
The 2009 Federal Budget has increased the limit for withdrawal from your RRSP under the Home Buyers Plan to $25,000. Since you and your husband have not owned a home in the past you could qualify for the RRSP Home Buyers Plan. Provided you contribute $25,000 each to your respective RRSP accounts at least 90 days before you purchase a new home you can withdraw the $25,000 tax free from your RRSP and use the tax deduction for the year of your contribution as well. This way you can have an additional $12,500 to use for the down payment on your first home.
However, keep in mind that you will have to pay back the amount that you withdraw from your RRSP under the Home Buyers Plan to your RRSP over a 15 year period and if you miss any of those payments it will be added to your income in that year and you will have to pay tax on it. I suggest you seriously consider using the RRSP Home Buyers plan and discuss it with your financial advisor to make sure it makes sense in your situation when considering your other long term and short term goals.
Hi Tina,
I currently work full-time while attending school part-time. I pay off all my credit cards on time and am currently financing a vehicle that has 3 years left on the loan.
I understand how important an RRSP is but I don't see the point of having one now being in my 20’s. Despite all that, I do have an RRSP account with a mere thousand.
I was wondering if it is advisable to deposit any extra cash in a TFSA, "supposed" high interest savings account, RRSP or a mix of the three. Due to the current economic situation, I don’t want to have my money locked up if I end up needing it and certainly don’t want to be penalized for withdrawing it.
What do you suggest?
Alyssa
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Alyssa, Even though you are very young and I am sure it is hard for you to think about retirement in your 20's, this is actually the best time for you to be contributing to your RRSP and building up a nice nest egg for the future. You did not mention your income but since you are working full-time and live in Ontario you must be at least in a 21% tax bracket which means that you will save 21% in taxes on your contributions to your RRSP.
The TFSA can be a good place for saving your emergency cash and you can invest it in a high interest savings account that is liquid and accessible at any time. I recommend that you contribute to both your RRSP and TFSA account, keeping in mind that you can also keep your RRSP funds in liquid investments. That way if you feel insecure about your job due to the economy, should you need to withdraw the funds from your RRSP the amount that you withdraw will be added to your income and will be taxable but you won’t have to pay any penalties.
on Tax saving account, is there any limitation on how many times you can withdraw money per year? What if I have withdrawn one time and want to deposit back within short time (of course not exceeding the $5000 limit). Thks.
Tina Tehranchian: As far as the TFSA rules are concerned there are no limitations on how many times you can withdraw per year or how soon you can replace your withdrawals. However, depending on what you have invested the money in your TFSA in (stocks, bonds, mutual funds, GICs, etc.) you may have to pay brokerage fees and penalties on redemption. In addition make sure the financial institution you have your TFSA account with does not charge any fees for withdrawals from the account.
I have two adult sons in college and I was wondering if they should set up their own TSFA accounts? They would not be able to put much into them until they are finished school and get employment. I was thinking that if they opened them now their contribution room would grow so they could use it when they start earning income. Neither will have any student debt when they graduate.
Also, what is the minimum they can contribute?
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Michele, I think it would be a great idea for your sons to set up their own TFSA accounts now. This way they can start saving on a tax free basis and when they start working full time and have higher income, they can transfer the funds they have built up in their TFSA accounts to their RRSP without incurring any taxes on the withdrawal from the TFSA and benefit from the tax savings from contributing those funds to their RRSP. They can start a monthly contribution plan with most institutions with a minimum of $50.00 per month or they can make a lump sum cash contribution of any amount to get the account started. Certain investments may have higher minimum investment requirements.
Married couple 43 & 41, no kids - our assets are as follows;
$360K house
$155K RRSP
$15K cash
Debts are;
$145K mortgage @ 4.5%
$15K other low interst debt
My question; all the RRSP's are locked in safely in money market or GIC's and we were lucky to avoid the market crash.
We are going to do a small home reno +/-15K
and do a little travel.
Otherwise, we are looking for direction on finance. Job stability is good to very good.
What should we do now?
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Glen, you need to set your long term and short term financial goals and then plan accordingly. I don’t have some important information that I would need to give you more direction, such as your income, your pension plan information (if any), your group benefit and personal insurance information, and your RRSP contribution room. Based on the information you have given me looks like you are conservative investors, in which case provided you have maximized your RRSP contributions, I suggest you concentrate on paying down your mortgage.
You should also set up TFSA accounts for yourself and your wife and shelter $10,000 of your cash in the two TFSA accounts. I strongly recommend that you seek help from a certified financial planner in your area. You can visit the Financial Planners Standards Council web site at www.fpsc.ca to locate one.
I am middle aged and investing for retirement in about 15 to 20 years from now. With today current economic troubles is it unwise to pick aggressive growth funds knowing I am buying units and ignore the balance for the next five years?
Tina Tehranchian: Dear Steve, You certainly have the right time horizon (15 to 20 years) for having an aggressive portfolio. Provided you have the stomach for the volatility, chose your investments wisely and truly try to ignore the balance for the next five to ten years and focus on the long term, I think you can certainly benefit from the current stock market downturn.