Now that the United States has severely cut back its space program, independent groups and private companies are working on getting into space — including at least two groups of European computer hackers.
A German hacker collective called the Chaos Computer Club recently put out the call for a three-phase space program that aims to put a hacker on the moon in 23 years.
Meanwhile, the Copenhagen Suborbitals, founded four years ago, successfully launched a rocket into space in June.
Both groups say their approach is to work in an open-source environment.
Jens Ohlig of the Chaos Computer Club and Peter Madsen, co-founder of the Copenhagen Suborbitals, spoke to Cinnamon Nippard, a Berlin-based contributor to CBC's Spark, about why they're aiming for space and some of the challenges they face.