Washington File

There is no problem with ACORN although you alluded that there was this morning. They reported ALL irregular registrations. The only problem is the Republicans MAKING it a problem.
You can register as many times as you like, it's not illegal, but you get to vote only ONCE.
There will be no Mickey Mouse voting, sorry to tell the Republicans that but it ain't gonna happen!!!!
Per RFK jr there have been ONLY 24 voter fraud cases since 2002, so that's out of what, 800 million votes?
( My earlier post didn't post so let's see if this one does)

Joseph said
"This division is the same one that has been causing problems for years.

The Financial Crisis threatens to marginalize the American Dollar.

The Euro will supplant it as the De facto world currency.
The high level strategists in Washington know how bad things are."

The fact is that the 'bailout' is courtesy of all the countries who are footing America's bills. European/UK 'Skynews' did a survey of who they wanted as President and 23% were for McCain, 75% for Obama. I don't think it matters what the bailout decision is. I think all that matters is that, if Obama is voted in, on Nov 5th the world will breath a sigh of relief and world markets will feel optimistic again, pulling American markets up with them. If McCain gets in the pessimism will be palpable and countries will want to stop lending/buying US money, especially if it is to keep funding McCain wars in their own countries. Let's see - we want to keep borrowing billions from you so we can threaten you and bomb you! It's almost a sad joke.
Suggestions have already been made as to which country could hold the new currency (replacing the American $) eg the Euro. If this happens, America is truly broke and there will be no more money to borrow for future bailouts or wars.

I think a lot of people are missing things in their arguments. I don't personally know enough to make an informed decision but after reading this article and some of your posts, I have to say, you can't just go blaming the government for everything. Keep in mind it's the American people who voted Bush in.

And somehow I doubt the government alone was responsible for the credit-crunch: that would also be the American people as well.

Also, I think there would be huge repercussions to the bailout. It basically allows for a free fall of other companies doesn't it?

And if De Fazio and Goode don't like that proposal, let's see them come up with something better.

We need to think that this mess was created by three parties - Wall Street Banks who saw a chance for profit in packaging up debt and selling it to investors without full disclosure and the local banks who were keen to sell mortgages at any price and those on "Mainstreet" who were too profligate to sign up for loans they could not afford. Seems that just about covers an awful lot of the taxpayers that are now holding the bag. It just seems ingenuous to say that the Taxpayer should not carry the can here - it was a country wide, population wide systemic failure due to taking on far too much personal credit.

Need I remind people that the poor average Joe elected this congress and this president? It's amazing how, with such ease, the electorate absolves itself of responsibility.

When voters elect a president because he's someone they would be comfortable inviting to a barbecue; when they approve of a VP candidate because she's "just like me!"; when they believe the crap they hear on Fox and talk radio indiscriminately; when more than half of them believe in ghosts, astrology, and most of them can't spell DNA then is it a surprise that they get this kind of government?

Great perspective Mr. Champ. It seems that the story is always about Democrat vs. Republican; whereas you make abundantly clear that this is about a pissed-off America finally standing up to a child-president who has obeyed their trust with his narrow decisions for far too long.

Jerry - the usa is both a republic and a democracy, the two are not mutually exclusive.

How Nancy Pelosi can blame the Republicans for the defeat of the bill when 40% of her own members voted against (including four committee chairmen she appointed) it is pure, shameless partisanship. So is the GOP leadership blaming Pelosi's pre-vote speech.

Despite the right decision having been made by the House, both parties' leadership looking weak and childish.

If this revamped bailout goes through - and it probably will - the US taxpayers will be footing the bill for the next four or five generations. Nice going, Wall Street, the Fed, Congress and the White House. Let the average Joe and Jane foot your screw-ups for eternity. It's the way it has always been and it's the way it will always be.

Let's all keep it in perspective folks, stranger things have happened. Given that this New World Order really means freedom for the chosen few and social, political and economic slavery for the masses, the charade has to end and the system has to collapse at some point. If not now, then very, very soon.

George W. Bush may go down as the worst President in American history for his eight-year circus but he's not the one truly running the show. He's simply the convenient moron minion doing the bidding of his corporate, military and political masters. He's the puppet, not the puppet-master. Much larger forces are at work. Always keep your eyes on the money trail and the social policy-makers.

This current massive debacle reminds just me of George Orwell's 1984. Simply put, it is no longer a work of fiction but an accurate representation of today's world order. Lies are truth, freedom is slavery, communism is capitalism, Republican is Democrat and Democrat is Republican, reason is unreason, fiction is non-fiction, ignorance is intellect and fear breeds the need for a false sense of security.

The giant hamster wheel keeps on turning. It's just too bad the global masses are the hapless, helpless and hopeless hamsters forever chasing the intentionally elusive pellet called truth.

As the apt saying goes: The rich get ricker and the poor get poorer.

It occurred to during the discussions about whether or not to approve the bailout that both hardline Republicans and Democrats may well vote no, but for absolutely opposite reasons.

The Democrats because it would result in a staggeringly high tax burden for the average-Joe. And the hardline Republicans because they believe that the market should be left completely alone to do what market will do.

How often in history has it come to pass that what is right for the John Doe prevails because of a belief in total unfettered capitalism on Wall Street???

This strikes me as the most ironic thing that I've ever witnessed.

(And the icing on the cake is the egg on McCain's face.)

Yes, Wall Street has crippled itself, but it is the heart that pumps life into the financial world. This isn't just about bailing out the idiots that put us in this mess, its making sure that oridnary people still have jobs, and access to cash for things like fuel and bread and milk. If there is no bailout, it all dries up. How will people feed themselves? How will people live? Where will people live when they've lost their homes? And they already have.... by the thousands.

The key is to perform the bailout with the utmost care, which these two responsible politicians are ensuring. Bravo to them both, for they are standing up for Americans in the best way they know how. The whole bunch of them need to go back to the drawing board and figure out a way to save Wall Street AND Main Street. Yes, rescue the morons, but don't forget to protect the people that trusted them in first place.

This division is the same one that has been causing problems for years.

The Financial Crisis threatens to marginalize the American Dollar.

The Euro will supplant it as the De facto world currency.

The high level strategists in Washington know how bad things are.

The domestically focused internationally illiterate American has no idea.

There have been a number of seemingly horrible policy decisions that are based on the same hidden mandate.

Everything from stonewalling alternative energy (Oil as a commodity purchase fuels demand for US $,) war in Iraq, and attempts to exaggerate the American economy that caused this this financial crisis.

Prepare for China to make good on their threats that are making Washington duck and cover.

Sales of US Debt worldwide are going to spike.

Well, I really hope that the U.S. doesn't do some last minute bailout...

Financial crises like this are due to deep running greed and irresponsibility. If you give a bailout to the exact people that created the problem, they will use it to further their own goals and will not do what is in the best interest of their economy.

Main Street people are not stupid. You don't throw good money after bad.

Actually BNL, it's a republic but you're close.

You know, it is nice to see still that when the **** hits the fan, that some politicians are still able to see past their partisan blinders and do what they truly believe is right for the people, regardless of consequences.

Go DeFazio. Go Goode.

This is still a democracy, isn't it?????