MPs denounce motion to study when life begins
By Meagan Fitzpatrick, CBC News
Posted: Apr 26, 2012 4:54 PM ET
Last Updated: Apr 27, 2012 7:46 AM ET
Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth found little support for his motion that was debated Thursday that calls for a committee to study the legal definition of when life begins. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth's motion proposing that a parliamentary committee study the legal definition of when life begins got zero support from MPs who debated it Thursday.
Even a senior member of his own party, the Conservative whip Gordon O'Connor, said that, despite Woodworth's claims, the motion is intended to lead to a change in Canada's abortion laws and that it should be rejected.
Kicking off the debate on his private member's motion, Woodworth said the current law's 400-year-old definition of when a person is defined as a human being is dishonest and most Canadians don't agree with it.
Canadians don't accept the notion in the law that "birth is a moment of magical transformation that changes a child from a non-human to a human being," Woodworth said.
"Motion 312 simply calls for a study of the evidence about when a child becomes a human being. It does not propose any answer to that question," he said.
But he made it clear that his own answer to the question is that the moment of birth is not "a rational or reasonable" time to define a baby as a human being. But those who disagree with him, and who accept the law as it is, should have the confidence to expose it to examination by a committee of MPs, as proposed in his motion, he said.
"What have they to fear from the full flood of light? Why oppose a mere study?" Woodworth said.
"If you care about the truth you will courageously follow the facts wherever they lead. Canadians expect parliamentarians to embody that courage, that strength, that principled quest for the truth," he said.
Liberal MP Denis Coderre and others said it was ironic for Woodworth to talk about the law being dishonest when he wasn't being truthful about what he is trying to do with his motion.
Woodworth insisted that his motion is only meant to provoke a "respectful dialogue and an open-minded study of the evidence."
'Society has moved on and I don't believe this proposal should proceed.'—Government whip Gordon O'Connor
But O'Connor disagreed, saying "the ultimate intention of this motion is to restrict abortions at some development stage in Canada." If the legal definition of when a person is considered a human being is changed, and a fetus is then considered a human being then homicide laws would apply, and abortion, as a consequence, would be considered homicide, O'Connor said.
He was the only other Conservative MP to speak during the debate, and he urged everyone to reject his colleague's motion whenever it comes to a vote.
O'Connor said abortion is a serious decision for women to make and he wants all women to continue to live in a society where they can make that decison "without the threat of legal consequences."
Whether one accepts abortion or not, it will always be part of society, O'Connor said, adding that he can't understand why those who are opposed to it want to impose their belief on others through the Criminal Code.
"Trying to amend the legal rules governing abortion as is intended by this motion will not improve the situation, it will only lead to increased conflict as the attempt is made to turn back the clock," said O'Connor. "Society has moved on and I don't believe this proposal should proceed. As well, it is in opposition to our government's position."
Harper rejects his MP's motion
Earlier in the day Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he will not support the motion.
Harper was asked during question period by NDP Leader Tom Mulcair why he was allowing Woodworth and other members of his caucus to reopen the debate on abortion.
The prime minister said party leaders do not have control over the motions introduced by MPs and that it's "unfortunate" an all-party committee decided the motion is eligible for a vote.
"In my case, I will be voting against the motion," Harper said.
O'Connor said that the government's position is very clear that it will not re-open the abortion debate.
Woodworth's motion isn't binding, and won't come to a vote on Thursday. It was up for one hour of debate and now drops to the bottom on the order of precedence. It will get another hour of debate when it returns to the top of the list.
The House will vote on the motion the Wednesday following its next hour of debate, which Woodworth expects will be in June or September.
The NDP's women's issues critic, Niki Ashton, said during the debate that her party is unanimously opposed to the motion.
"In Canada, in 2012, a woman's right to choose is not up for negotiation," she said. Ashton also rejected Harper's claim that he doesn't want the abortion debate re-opened.
"If the prime minister didn't want a woman's right to choose to be debated, we wouldn't be here tonight," she said.
Liberal MP Hedy Fry said Liberals don't support any legislative action that might criminalize abortion and oppose Woodworth's motion. She also criticized Harper for allowing Woodworth's motion to stand for debate.
Follow Kady O'Malley's live blog. Mobile friendly feed here.
Share Tools
Speaker rules Bezan/Glover case raises prima facie privilege questions by Kady O'Malley Jun. 18, 2013 6:29 PM Conservatives move to shut down debate on motion to send the matter to committee for further study.
Top News Headlines
- Neil Macdonald: Washington's obsession with leakers
- Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are just the most prominent targets in an all-out legal and propaganda campaign that America's security apparatus is mounting against leakers everywhere, Neil Macdonald writes. more »
- Who's who in the Senate expense controversy
- Keeping track of the names popping up in the ongoing Senate expenses controversy — from the investigators to the four senators themselves — could be a difficult task for even the most seasoned political observers. more »
- How open is Ottawa's new 'open data' website?
- Treasury Board President Tony Clement is touting the federal government's revamped data portal as a "new natural resource." But that online window for previously published data arrives at the same time the government faces controversy over just how open it really is. more »
- 2 men jailed in Dominican wedding fight return to Canada
- Two Canadian men who were detained in the Dominican Republic for nearly three weeks after a post-wedding fight broke out at a resort have returned to Toronto, the latest step in a drama that the wife of one of the men said was "like a scene from the movies." more »
Must Watch
Latest Politics News Headlines
- Who's who in the Senate expense controversy
- Keeping track of the names popping up in the ongoing Senate expenses controversy — from the investigators to the four senators themselves — could be a difficult task for even the most seasoned political observers. more »
- How open is Ottawa's new 'open data' website?
- Treasury Board President Tony Clement is touting the federal government's revamped data portal as a "new natural resource." But that online window for previously published data arrives at the same time the government faces controversy over just how open it really is. more »
- Canada to send peacekeeping troops to Haiti
- A handful of Canadian troops are about to take part in peacekeeping operation in Haiti, under the command of Brazilian forces, in a long-delayed mission that has been kept inexplicably low on the political radar. more »
- Most groups don't want return of Trudeau speaking fees
- Most of the 17 charitable and other organizations that have paid speaking fees to Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau during his time as an MP say they aren't interested in having their fees returned, despite Trudeau's offer on the weekend to reimburse any organization unhappy with his services. more »
The National
The House
- Senator Tkachuk defends secretive committee's work Jun. 15, 2013 8:03 AM This week on The House, we ask Senator David Tkachuk about Mac Harb taking the Senate to court and Pamela Wallin's explanation for her expenses problems. Plus, National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations Shawn Atleo has strong words for the Harper government's approach to First Nations issues. The Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt is here to respond.
- 2 men jailed in Dominican wedding fight return to Canada
- Police probe death of woman, 27, in Kelowna home
- Hundreds attend 'Change Brazil' protest in Vancouver
- MPs pass NDP motion on expenses, adjourn for summer
- Are e-cigarettes safe to puff?
- Huge ancient city at Angkor Wat revealed by lasers
- Parents of son 'brutally beaten' playing hockey want charges
- Most groups don't want return of Trudeau speaking fees
- Montreal mayor resigns amid corruption charges


