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60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China

As China prepares to mark its 60th year as a communist republic, Canada's multi-faceted Chinese community is divided on the anniversary and its significance.

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Wm Rig

Surrey

I would be ashames and embarrassed to called a Chinese Canadian or African Canadian, or anything else/Canadian. I am a Canadian. No slash in front of Canadian. If I wanted to be a Chinese Canadian, I would have stayed in China.

Posted September 28, 2009 11:06 PM

Anonymous

I'm glad to see that there's a bit more nuance here than the original link of "China turns 60" on the CBC home-page.

Chinese culture is one of the world's oldest and richest. The notion that it's a 60 year old country is ridiculous. This is nothing more than the 60th anniversary of Communist rule.

Go ahead and celebrate Chinese culture if you wish. I think Chinese New Year's, as the most well-known Chinese cultural event for non-Chinese Canadians, would be a great time to celebrate your contributions to our country and the world with the community at large.

But to celebrate this 60th anniversary is to do nothing but glorify one-party rule by one of the most ruthless regimes the world has ever seen.

Yes, the Communist Party is a much tamer version of itself, as is its brand of communism, but it still prohibits basic freedoms that we take for granted here in Canada such as freedom of speech and the right to choose your government.

On October 1 we should all be marching in front of China's consulates and embassy and demand democratic reform and the respect for human rights. 60 years of Communist year is more than enough! I'd say they have overstayed their welcome by six decades.

Posted September 29, 2009 09:39 AM

Mark Lemoine

China is a great place (with outstanding food!) I will actually be in mainland China (Zhongshan) on Oct 1st and it will be an honour for me to be here for the PRC's 60th anniversary.

Posted September 29, 2009 10:34 AM

Titus Leung

Having a long history doesn't mean such culture is good. However, a lot of Chinese think it does. What a joke.

For me, I need to work on October 1, so I don't have much to celebrate for. Since the first dictatorship (Qin Dynasty) established 2000 years ago, the culture of China has basically stalemated -- all but the "ability" of concentrating the power to one man/party.

We dare not to even even the silliest thing to avoid being caught (Think about Xiaobo Liu, one of the author of Charter 08). The regime established by the Communist Party 60 years ago is just the same -- they learned how to manipulate people to support them, blindly.

In fact, China is undergoing a new wave of Cultural Revolution, rewriting history and redefining political correctness, and destroying anyone who do not fit into the regime's doctrine.

As a result, October 1 is not a day of celebration for me, but a day of remembrance -- all who died physically and handicapped spiritually through these 60 years of political movements, prosecution and fear.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:19 AM

JK

Ottawa

I'm going to light a candle for Tibet and the many citizens of that ancient country whose lives or livelihoods have been trampled by ongoing, widely documented abuses perpetrated by the Chinese government.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:28 AM

David

Halifax

I am a proud Chinese Canadian. But I won't make the event on Oct. 1st; I won't watch the parade on TV either.

However, I appreciate all the serious discussion around the event, particular around the evolution of the country, the nation, the culture and people in the past 60 years, and its impact on the world. It is a good opportunity for everyone (not only Chinese) to reflect on the topic and part of our collective history.

Thanks CBC for making the effort.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:38 AM

Anonymous

Canadians need to celebrate The People's Republic of China's anniversary?

No quams if you do. No quams if you don't.

Posted September 29, 2009 12:14 PM

Difan

Calgary

I am not a citizen of Canada. I am a permanent resident. I am from China.

We are about to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the new China, not the birth of the Communist party. The Communist party is older than 60 years old.

The ruling of the Communist party is not perfect, but it's not that bad either. They managed to support a country with 1/5 of population of the world and they were able achieve significant success. We were able to feed 1.4 billion people successfully.

It's not as democratic as Canada, but it's trying hard to turn into one. Remember, China ended its imperial dynasty only 60 years ago. How long would you expect a country to transform from imperialistic to fully democratic? Even 20 years ago there was a very large portion of illiterate Chinese people.

Do you think that they would be able to understand or be interested in politics? Now that education has become a policy of the Communist party, they make sure that all children receive a basic education. Then we can talk about becoming fully democratic.

People in North America always judge the population policy in China. If we are not able to control our population, there would quickly be 2 billion Chinese. Imagine how much more food and resources we would need to consume. the Environmental impact would be massive. The party is not only doing it for China but for whole world, even the world doesn't understand and criticize it.

I personally Celebrate the 60th birthday of the new China and I appreciate what the Communist party has done for all Chinese people.

Posted September 29, 2009 12:29 PM

Kevin

Long live friendship between Canada and China.

Posted September 29, 2009 12:32 PM

lucy

Vancouver

I love China.

Posted September 29, 2009 12:57 PM

Ed

Montreal

Chinese culture and language is often lost to the 2nd generation Chinese Canadians.

Most Canadian-born-Chinese (CBCs) are probably unaware of this event.

Posted September 29, 2009 01:35 PM

Shahid

Montreal

I'm ethnic Chinese. I feel proud of China's rise. I believe Chinese civilization is the most successful one. I'm also believe that China's ethical/social/political/economic systems will provide the world an alternative to the Western, Christian-based liberal democracy.

Posted September 29, 2009 01:43 PM

Anonymous

if you want to support human right, then do not buy anything from any contry that are under dictatorship(include china of course). And, lets see how is your living standard after a year.

I am not saying communism is good, but a sharp transform will be a revolouion. And rarely any revolution that does not involve blood. I am sure no one will want to see China in chaos, because both the west and China are economically dependent on each other. However, I would like to see China slowly evolve from dictatorship into democratic.

Posted September 29, 2009 02:22 PM

Si

Vancouver

Happy Birthday the Peoples Republic of China. You are a beacon of hope to the rest of the world. May your peace and harmony extend to the rest of the world.

China is the best country in the world. Bar none and all you haters are simply ignorant.

Posted September 29, 2009 02:33 PM

China's progress

toronto

I believe the astonished progress and achievement by China in terms of economic power and personal liberty should be recognized by all rather than twisted in a very competitive 21 century.

There is room for further progress in all respects including human right. The full potential of China will be fully taped and demonstrated in this century!

Posted September 29, 2009 02:36 PM

Siguy

Vancouver

For me I will always be Chinese First and Canadian Second. Thus Chinese Canadian works for me.

Posted September 29, 2009 02:46 PM

Anonymous

I'm proud of being a Chinese Canadian.

China is getting stronger and more powerful in the world whatever you say about the party.

No one government is perfect I believe that they are better than anyone else.

Posted September 29, 2009 02:50 PM

Willie

Vancouver

There is definitely many reasons to celebrate new China...

Some people mentioned it's the 60th anniversary of communist rule for China but forget to mention the immense social/economical progress that happened in China in the past 60 years. The average income per person increased over 100 folds, life expectancy reaches the 70-80 range for average people.

China has a long history of imperialism, only 70 years ago, Kwo-Ming-Tang (Chinese Nationalist Party) was slaughtering and trying to extinguish the Chinese communist members but failed and fled to Taiwan.

The KMT ruling is much worse than communist rule, basically China lost its solvency when all major powers in the world could invade her and take advantage of her, the entire country was like a huge refugee camp, the average life expectancy was under 40.

Communist China has gained REAL dignity and independance for the Chinese people in the past two centuries. Mao Zedong will always be remembered as the biggest hero in Chinese history. That gives enough reason to celebrate!!

Posted September 29, 2009 03:03 PM

Daniel

Montreal

I'm ethnic Chinese but I'm proud to be French Canadian. I'm not excited about the 60th anniversary but I can say that it is a leap forward compared to the old day under Mao Zedong ruled.

I just wish that soon or later that China will become a democratic country to not only improve the freedom of speech, etc.. but also the image of China to show the world that they are evolving and ready for a change.

Posted September 29, 2009 03:04 PM

Anonymous

I am not a citizen of Canada.I am proud of China. I just want to tell everyone that China is developing and having its special characters. It is imposible to change her political system.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:01 PM

Happy Anniversary

Montreal

Happy Anniversary China.
To celebrate I'm gonna run over some hippies in a tank, chain some kids up in my basement to make me shoes and Torture the first person to disagree with me.

Maybe have some dim sum too.

W00t party.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:02 PM

Dragon

Montreal

Having lived in Canada and China, I wish China stays in its course.

Democracy == Hypocrisy.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:12 PM

Dave

Toronto

I will go and eat some at my favorite Chinese restaurant in the city, Maple Yip. Mmm Mai Cai Kou Rou sher hen hao!

Posted September 29, 2009 04:18 PM

Anonymous

Ottawa

I just want to say that no matter how long I have been a Canadian, I'm always of my root in China. There, I have all my relatives, my friends and my past.

I'm very happy to see China become stronger, more wealthy because I know people I care are living better. Who cares if it's ruled by communist or liberal or conservatives.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:19 PM

Titus Leung

Re: Anonymous' post on September 29, 2009 02:22 PM

(1)
If you don't buy Chinese goods because of Chinese Communist Government's human right record, I apprepiate your effort. I simply don't do this because it doesn't harm the government, but do harm the people a lot.

People from Mainland China always mix the following concepts together: Chinese People, Chinese Nation, Chinese Government, and Chinese Communist Party. Such education (and many other effort by the Chinese Government, including simplifying Chinese Characters) is simply a way to manipulate Chinese. As a result, one who challenges Chinese government's policy can easily "defined" as "not loving China", even "high treason".

That's why you see a lot of Chinese (and Chinese Canadians) saying "I love China." My question to them is: in what perspective, the nation, the people, or the dictatorship?

(2)
No doubt, "rarely any revolution that does not involve blood." This is my another question: is that right?

I guess the suicide bombers in Afghanistan or Iraq believe the same thing you do, so did the "Red Guards" during the Cultural Revolution. However, other than killing lots of innocent civilians (and a handful of real enemies), I don't see their lives are being improved.

Surely, gradually improve the government into a democratic one is the best. However, 2,000 years is too long, let alone the fact that the Communist Government of China doesn't seems to have a will to do the improvement, but simply catches all the decedents into jail or force them into exile, and accuse them to be criminals at the same time, just like the "Red Guards" did.

(3)
Go back to your first permise: "if you want to support human right, then do not buy anything from any contry that are under dictatorship(include china of course). And, lets see how is your living standard after a year."

Are you threatening us to have a desperate and terrible lives if we don't fall onto our knees before the Communist China?

Let me tell you one thing straight: I AM a Chinese, and I CHOOSE to live in Canada; this is enough to be a political statement, and I think such statement is strong enough. Surely I am not a hero, but at least I dare to make this statement with my real name.

Do you, Mr./Ms. Anonymous?

(For the economic side of this question, I think this video is enough to reply: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvYaUGpo-U)

Posted September 29, 2009 04:20 PM

Uniquely Canadian with a distinct Chinese Heritage

Ontario

With Pride and Joy, seeing China is moving forward to be a dominant, influencial player in the world politics. China seems to have a middle man approach, similar to Canada.

All the countries that USA have managed alienated, China or Canada have provided a helping hand. North Korea, Cuba. I wish China the best.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:40 PM

Janet Chan

Montreal

Oct 1st, let's use this occation to Commemorate 80 million Chinese been killed by the Communist Party of China during it's 60 years of ruling. Yes, the red flag is indeed painted in blood, 80 million murder victims' blood.

Let's not forget, the killing is still going on in China.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:44 PM

TC

Toronto

I'm Canadian. Period. The fact that my parents emigrated here does not mean I hyphenate my status. I am Canadian FIRST. The fact that I look Chinese does not diminish my Canadian status (unless of course I needed this current government's help while stuck in a foreign country).


I can't say I fully understand why we are celebrating 60 years of China's latest regime. My family fled that regime and to have fellow Canadians embracing that government that was responsible for the deaths of so many is to me an insult to the many who lost their lives fighting oppression.

So the bad guys won and just because they teach their children that all those atrocities never happened doesn't mean that we should ignore them too!

Posted September 29, 2009 04:52 PM

Ariane

Ottawa

I am not from a Chinese background, but love the Chinese culture. I visited the country and many of my friends are Chinese.

I think the PRC'60th anniversary is a good opportunity for non-Chinese Canadians to open themselves to this beautiful culture and wonderful people.

I hope that the media coverage won't be as negative as it usually is towards China. Before pointing at another country's inequalities, we should first look around us and analyze the social problems of our own country.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:54 PM

Jeff

Vancouver

I am surprised and saddened that the party is still going after all this time. Millions and millions of people around the world are waiting for a change of government in China.

There is a huge difference in personality and honesty between those Chinese immigrants who come to Canada who embrace the PRC party and those who do not.

Posted September 29, 2009 04:55 PM

Lian Wee

Montreal

The People's Republic has a lot to celebrate. It is the first government since the Opium War (1840) to drive out the foreign invaders.

Its military fought a foreign power to standstill (instead of losing) for the first time (Korean War, against UN troops)since the Opium War. Its per capita income rises first the first time since the Opium War. And its people are united (considering its size, and despite the ethnic tension in the past two years, ethnic Tibetans and Uighurs only made up of 1% of the total population).

Of course, there are bumps and bruises, but they learn from their experience (nonstop learning for the past 2200 years as a single political entity)

And most importantly, Chinese in China are optimistic about their lives, and Chinese outside of China feel proud.

So, the birthday is worth celebrating.

Posted September 29, 2009 05:13 PM

Xavier

Toronto

Now no traditional Chinese culture in China. What can we be proud of? 60 years of cheating and killing. 30 years of corruption.

Compared to Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. Shame! We lost all our culture and freedom. The most dark history of China!

Posted September 29, 2009 05:32 PM

Clay

I am proud to be of Chinese heritage but I reject being considered part of the PRC. The Chinese government is one of the most corrupt in recent times and I will not celebrate 60 years of the PRC but rather count down the end of the Communist-led China.

Posted September 29, 2009 05:56 PM

David

Vancouver

I am not Chinese but I recently visited China, its been quite a revelation. My opinion is the modern China has a lot to offer the world in terms of Governance.

In China, things get done. Simple as that. They are done for the PEOPLE and done to promote a common good. This is in stark contrast with Canada which in my opinion is too backwards and beaurocratic.

Things don't get done in Canada in a timely manner and not always for the PEOPLE.

Posted September 29, 2009 05:57 PM

Lin

Montreal

I am a Chinese-Canadian. Regarding 60th anniversary of P.R.China, I am not that happy. What I think is, after 60 years Communist Party takes the power, no Chinese have ever made an free election for the nation and no people is allowed to speak out the disadvantages of the government and the party,like serious corruption, cheating, and unfairness,etc.

Were these the results Chinese people want from the new party and the new government in 1949, absolutely not. But what Chinese people can do, in face of life threatening from the party and the government, recall TianAnMen square in summer of 1989, that's the answer.

Posted September 29, 2009 06:23 PM

E. B.

I beleive that its right to be able to celebrate your country, what it stands for and its people on an annual basis, as we do on the first of July and our southern neighbours on the 4th of July. I do not beleive however that the celebration taking place in china on the first of October are such a celebration but rather a celebration of communism and the autrocities of the past six decades.

I'm currious to know fi they will be celebrating their high poverty levels, their mis-treatment of workers and control over free speech.

Posted September 29, 2009 06:28 PM

Andy Li

Toronto

I hate The communist party. No offense to the chinese people, but if I were you, I would stand up for them. You have the best advantage and instead of letting that be used by the communist party, take advantage of it.

I can't wait til the Cultural Revival, the real "Liberation" of China and only until then, I think, Taiwan will want with consent to reunite with China.

Posted September 29, 2009 06:31 PM

Joshua SUN

Montreal

China is where I was born and raised. Canada is my home where I tasted the real freedom, right and equity (I never forget the warm feeling from deep of my heart after a custom officer said to me:"Welcome back home!" when I returned from a foreign trip. :-) )

I will celebrate and wish for best for both of my motherland!

Cheers!!

Posted September 29, 2009 06:41 PM

James Kingston

Toronto

The Communist Party in China has killed 70-80 million of its own citizens over the past 60 years to maintain its power.

It still has a comprehensive Marxist-Leninist political structure and state police system that has essentially wiped out all dissident since the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre, through immediate placement in slave labour camps without trial.

CBC can keep glorifying this regime all it wants, but sooner or later the Chinese people will have their say. Over the past 5 years their has been a movement to quit the Communist Party of China and its affiliated organizations (youth league, young pioneers), and the movement has reached over 60 million. Still hundreds of millions to go.

That's what we should be celebrating.

Too many Chinese in Canada still hold on to the facade of the "New China". The fact is, without the Communist Party, China would have developed much faster and would be decades ahead of where it is, like what we see in Hong Kong or Taiwan. The majority of Chinese people still believe that the Communist Party and China are one and the same and that criticizing the Communist Party is criticizing their country.

The Communist Party is not China. Here's hoping that the Communist Party won't be around for a 70th anniversary, and that in the near future, the Chinese people will bring China's historical magnificence to the world stage without political coloring.

Posted September 29, 2009 06:42 PM

Mike

Yeah, lets all celebrate what can be accomplished when 60 to 80 million people who don't think the same way you do are slaughtered. Communist China, you are a shining testimate of what all countries should aspire to be!

Let China celebrations stay in China.

If you are in Canada, celebrate Canada. I'm sure you're here for a reason.

Nothing more amusing than seeing a herd of Chinese waving the red communist flag while strolling down a major street of Toronto or Ottawa.

Uhm, you live in Canada, why are you here if China is so awesome?

Posted September 29, 2009 06:52 PM

PW

NYC

CBC, what do you mean by saying that "Canada's multi-faceted Chinese community is divided on the anniversary and its significance"?

Chinese community is not divided on the anniversary. In fact, they are looking forward to the celebration of the founding PRC.

CBC, you have done enough damage of yourself among Chinese communities. With the current situation going on, CBC is bashing China.

I would definitely defend for China and be Chinese first and then Canadian.

Posted September 29, 2009 07:00 PM

Andrew

Montreal

Woohoo! 60 years of being an illegal communist dictatorship!

Posted September 29, 2009 07:01 PM

William

We must know more about the truth of China before we say something about the people or the government. We would never know how difficult it is to administer such a big country with such a large population. We should our respects to them.

Posted September 29, 2009 07:06 PM

Paul

Vancouver

I love the country, but not the party.

Posted September 29, 2009 07:11 PM

Harry Carter

K-W

Although I am not Chinese I have to say, China has developed a WHOLE lot from the last time I been to Beijing(1999). I went again during the Summer Olympics and DAMN, Beijing has transformed into a loving, caring city!

The Beijing International Airport is rated the best in the world and how could anyone not like Chinese food??? China is the next superpower!

Posted September 29, 2009 07:58 PM

Carmen H

Toronto

China has gone a long way from 1949.I was born in 1968 in mainland China which was the peak of the Cultural Revolution and had witnessed the emergence of Modern China from extreme proverty to extreme political fanatics to modern pragmatism.

While I don't condone the current one-party dictatorship in China, I'm very pleased to see the tremendous progress & prosperity which it has made for its people. Sure enough, there're still plenty of problems exist there.

But with a population of close to 1.4 Billion people, China has overcome a lot of obstacles to come to this stage. I'm very proud to be both a Canadian and a Chinese. For those who may have questions on Chinese Canadians allegiance to Canada, I can easily tell you that the majority of us love both countries with all our hearts.

I would put the benefits of Canada first, ready to do my very best to contribute to the well-beings of Canada while still being very honoured to be a Canadian of Chinese heritage. Have 60th birthday to China! Long live the Friendship between Canada and China.

Posted September 29, 2009 08:15 PM

rosewood

montreal

Those who still regard China as a communist country are totally ignorant
of today's development in China, unfortunately even some CBC journalists share the same point of view.

In 1978 when I was visiting my relatives in countryside of Northeast China,I was stopped by a 60 years old local farmer. He said to me he heard ( people usually prefer heard not thought at that time )that Deng Xiao Ping is leading the country to capitalism but not allow people to talk about it.I told him that was not true. How idiot I was! When I look back and read today's China I found he is absolutely right.For the past 20-30 years China is develop its country from the capitalism not communism. If the economic is capitalism how could you say the country is communist.

Posted September 29, 2009 09:14 PM

Michael

I think this 60 year event should be celebrated in honour of the Chinese people who've somehow managed to survive in a country so rife with corruption. It should also be a day of rememberence for victims of the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution and the day to day corruption.

For some, birthdays are about celebrating with friends and family. For me, and others, birthdays are opportunities to look back on the past year, to celebrate the successes but also to look for ways to improve in the coming year.

People, especially the PRC, should use this day to evaluate the course the country is headed on.

Posted September 29, 2009 10:01 PM

Alagan Elavalagan

Toronto

Chinese Communist Party has been doing much better job than any other political parties in Canada, US, England, France, India or any other so-called democratic countries.

1. There economical achievements are excellent. In 80s and 90s, most of the western pundits called Chinese economic growth was a ‘bubble’. But today we know it wasn’t the case and its growth is not even near the peak. No one can simply hide it behind the ‘cheap labour’ too, because it is more than that. (Hope they clean the air and water soon)

2. There defence achievements are excellent. Chinese citizen don’t have to worry about another country conquering them again or dropping bombs in there cities to do a periodical regime-change.

3. There educational system is excellent and affordable for the citizen. It fact it produces more than enough to support continuing innovations.

4. There public services are excellent. Just compare Katrina to Sichuan earthquake relief efforts.

5. They protect their innovations. Compare it to what happened to Avro Arrow, Nortel networks etc.

6. There long-term investments are excellent. Three gorges dam, the bridge on Shanghai-to-Ningbo highway (more than 30 km long) are some examples. Just about 50 years ago, they had asked USSR to build their first bridge across Yangtze in Wuhan. USSR abandoned their support in building the second bridge in Nanjing, so CCP had to do it without any foreign help.

In Toronto on the other hand, we are talking about bringing down the Gardiner Expressway because we couldn’t handle about 10 km of elevated highway (open-up the condo-front please).

What else you expect from your political parties, bringing down the government, chopping down GST?

Like most of the other superpowers, China too built from scratch (once again!).

Posted September 29, 2009 10:42 PM

Mike-eh!

Ontario

I love the people of China with their good attitude and ancient culture and beliefs. I hate the current government with their narrow-minded power and control issues.

As they look for respect from the international community they must respect other cultures - all of them, including the Tibetan culture. They must realize all people need to be free!

Posted September 29, 2009 11:20 PM

David

toronto

As a Chinese Canadian, even I lived in Canada for more than 6 years, I still pay a great attention to what is happening in China.

Like most of Chinese in China now, I am very exciting about China's 60th birthday. It is unbelievable that China--the biggest in population, the third in land, and the only big one of communist country in the world, survived for 60 years.

Now, she looks living better and better compared with some other countries which used to misunderstand, even hate her.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:34 PM

Ted

toronto

My family has been in Canada for over 100 years. My grandfather came to Canada as part of the railroad worker.

Thanks to Mao ZeDong, my grandmother and my father came over in 1950. I consider myself as a Canadian and not a Chinese Canadian. Canada has adopted our family, and loyal we will be to our new country.

For those who consider themselves (Siguy) as Chinese and not Canadian should not remain in Canada but to head back to China. People like us who work hard to integrate into the Canadian society are insulted by the Siguys.

Much of China's current problems : air pollution, sandstorms in Beijing, and water pollutions are results for Mao's failed policies.

The corruptions in China are no less than those in China before 1949. I urge all those people who praise Mao and his fellow commarades should do more extensive research before drawing their conclusions.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:34 PM

Yang

Hamilton

Huge agree Difan!
Happy the PRC's 60th anniversary.
I am proud of being a Chinese.
I am proud of being a Chinese.
I am proud of being a Chinese.
I am proud of being a Chinese.

Posted September 29, 2009 11:49 PM

Anonymous

I have been living here in China for 13 years and I will be one of those who will be celebrating tomorrow along with my Chinese friends. 中国万岁!!!

Posted September 30, 2009 12:07 AM

Pierre Thach

Montreal

I am an ethnic Chinese born in Canada. The 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China is a great occasion to celebrate the achievements of her people over the last few decades, both economically and socially.

While many experts speculate that the political sphere will gradually emancipate itself overtime, I for one do not see the light of that day.

Chinese have long being influenced by the teachings of Confucius, one of which is the so-called harmonious society. For many Chinese, debate is nothing short of non-existent when a given problem arises. We would prefer to build towards a consensus (or maintain silence) rather than divert from the general opinion. We do not want to bother in any way.

In short, if one member of the collective has a problem, then the entire collective has a problem. That is why democracy is something that is far-fetched at this point in time in a traditionalist society such as China.

Posted September 30, 2009 12:45 AM

Daisy

Victoria

I love China. She is my motherland. She had suffered a lot before October 1, 1949. Now she is turning 60 years old. How cool it is!

The new China is getting stronger and stronger due to the hard work Chinese have done.
Hopefully China will make more progress in the new future.
I love you, China!
Hopefully more and more people will see China in a open and friendly way.
Hopefully more and more people will think China is great.

Happy birthday!

Posted September 30, 2009 12:57 AM

Ny

Toronto

Despite all of its imperfections, the government of China has done a very good job in the past 60 years..
For you diehard critics, do you think it is easy to govern, feed, shelter, and cloth 1.322 billion people of China ?


Remember, the population of China (1322 mn) is greater than the total population of the G8 plus a few other countries:

G8:
United States (301 mn)
Russia (141 mn)
Japan (127 mn)
Germany ( 82 mn)
France (61 mn)
United Kingdom (61 mn)
Italy (58 mn)
Canada (33 mn)

Plus:
Spain (41 mn)
Poland (39 mn)
Ukraine (46 mn)
Romania (22 mn)
Portugal (11 mn)

Posted September 30, 2009 01:37 AM

James

Calgary

Yep, the PRC sure did a good job of controlling the population through starvation and civil war.

I'm sure they'll do a great job of controlling the population especially of all the non-Han peoples of China in the years to come as they have done so well in the past.

They also extend their great population control techniques to North Korea and Burma by propping up their wonderful governments.

Here's a question. If a political system is so great and so beloved, why do those leading fear people who speak words against it? Why do they silence them through censorship and imprisonment?

Posted September 30, 2009 02:43 AM

MN

Toronto

I am proud to be Chinese by birth, but I am more thankful that I am Canadian by choice.

Sixty years of corruption and tyranny aren’t worth observing. I rather celebrate the end of the CCP instead.

Posted September 30, 2009 04:25 AM

In China

China

Difan says: "The party is not only doing it for China but for whole world, even the world doesn't understand and criticize it."

I don't buy into any of that and I wouldn't expect them to do it for anybody else but themselves.

On another note: Happy 60th PRC! I'm not Chinese but I like China. Hopefully many of the posters here are correct and some time in the near future China will be a democratic country. There's nothing wrong with giving people a choice.

Posted September 30, 2009 05:12 AM

Domnic

Ontario

I am an open-minded Chinese Canadian.

For most people who has the Chinese ethnic root, the 60th anniversary of the R.P. China is more like a religious ceremony or a dazzling party which would reflect their ethnic characteristics to all around the world.

It has been struggling to show their real soul to this mosaic society from any kind of culture root if the culture would consider the meditation an ultimate spiritual power!

Chinese culture is just one among them and would always find herself embarrassed especially in those situations such as funky parties or masquerade. But Chinese Canadian won't ruin your religious ceremonies or parties in any churches or from other communities even sometimes Chinese Canadian don't agree with all the values embedded in some social events. Why? Because the conventional Chinese philosophy highly advocate the balance of "Ying & Yang" or the harmonious "Qi" in all kinds of situations. Most of Chinese Canadian even don't bother themselves to participate any political shows on this free, peaceful and colorful land even they are titled to have the right!

It's the carnival-alike party time for Chinese who are living in China tomorrow, no matter what other countries call it. If you are an person with wisdom, please respect other nations' religious ceremony and parties. So do they afterward!

Posted September 30, 2009 05:43 AM

Pareto Equlilibrium

Happy Birthday China. I wish you prosperity and happiness for the next 60 years.

To all those who like to complain about China ... go suck on a lemon.

Posted September 30, 2009 06:25 AM

Morgan Wang

Canada

China wasted too much energy,time and money to do this kind of celebration.

Pls remember,there are lots of Chinese still in poverty. Do more things for them.

Don't only think of yourself,Dear Bureaucrats.

Posted September 30, 2009 06:43 AM

Patrick

I'm Canadian, and living in Hong Kong. There is a lot of hype here about about October 1st.

I see a lot of people above me still think the Party did great stuff for China.

Imperial rule ended in 1911 and the Republic of China proclaimed by Sun Yat-sen, the true father of modern China, in 1912. Unfortunately, with the lack of a strong central government, the Kuomintang took years to conquer the warlords who had seized control of the provinces.

Then the Japanese invaded, and while the Communists ran and hid the Nationalists were slaughtered by the thousands. The Nationalists may have been corrupt, and Chiang Kai-shek not the best of leaders, but it was so much better than what was going to happen under Mao.

Difan seems to not know that the reason why there are so many Chinese is because it was a direct result of Mao's policies, where China would win through sheer numbers. Willie also seems to forget that the Kuomintang were not responsible for foreign encroachment on China, and Mao agreed to restore Russian extraterritorial (read: imperial) rights in exchange for Soviet help.

Life expectancy in China, and food for all, only came about after Mao lost power and the Chinese people were no longer slaves working on collective farms. Mao also sent Chinese foodstuffs to the Soviet bloc in exchange for heavy industry and prestige while ordinary Chinese people were starving to death. Five million dead from the pre-1949 purges, another million from urban purges in the 50's, 20 million deaths from starvation during the Great Leap Forward, 2 million during the Cultural Revolution when the Communists destroyed much of what constituted Chinese culture, 20 million dead in labour and re-education camps for purged "rightists" and about a million dead in Tibet.

Over 40 million dead because of the Communist Party which still rules. Life under the Nationalists would have been so much better. All of China's gains have been made by repudiating everything the Communist Party stands for.

So, while I am glad to see a strong China, I will not be celebrating 60 years of the PRC.

Posted September 30, 2009 07:52 AM

C MacCraig

Toronto

Happy 60th to China.

The communist model of government is just what China needed to move into the 20th century.

I'm sure they will find their own path in the 21 century, hopefully with an improved form of government than they presently have and hopfully better than we have for that mater.

Posted September 30, 2009 09:18 AM

Bill Kimber

Calgary

If we take the period since communism took over and divide by the number of people murdered (35,235,000 accoring to various sources)in the name of peace and harmony this means that on average 587,250 people per year have been put to death to maintain this style of government.

That is averaging a little over one person per minute for 60 years being put to the sword, such a happy and cooperative people.
Happy birthday

Posted September 30, 2009 09:36 AM

Zeester

Toronto

I'm a proud Chinese Canadian everyday of the year, especially on the 60th birthday of PRC. If some people want to neglict the Chinese in front of the Canadian, then go rigth ahead, but also tell those English/French/Irish Canadians as well, so ur saying they should be staying in England, France??? don't be so bitter...

Posted September 30, 2009 09:42 AM

Xiang

Love to celebrate Chinese National Day on October 1st as our Canada Day on July 1st. They are holidays. Nothing else.

Since we are Chinese race, what ever you like or not, other people in Canada will call us Chinese Canadian. I like this kind of title.

Posted September 30, 2009 09:56 AM

Peter

Lethbridge

Are we really "celebrating" the birthday of a totalitarian regime? Would we have been doing the same in, say, 1996 when Nazi Germany turned 60, had it made it out of infancy?

China is a wonderful civilization with many contributions to laud, but the 60th anniversary of its nasty little revolution isn't one of them.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:17 AM

Celebrate China

Ottawa

To Anonymous:

Why didn't you compare human rights in china before 1949 revolution and now. There is a very very big changes.

Please check its GNP and population, which government or party can govern this huge country. USA? or Canada? Canada has just 30 Million poeple!!!:), but still a mass!!

I support chinese gorvernment!!!
I support the Communist Party!!!

Celebrate China!!!!!!!

Posted September 30, 2009 10:25 AM

Celebration

It is a great day for China! For those who have visited China, they have seen in their eyes the incredible transformation taken place in China.

China has put all the grief behind and leaped forward. Whether you like or not, this century will be China’s century.
Happy Birthday!

Posted September 30, 2009 10:41 AM

Anonymous

I am an immigrant from China. One thing we tried to escape before was the cruel government and corrputed society.

60 years for one party in ruling, which was written in their laws for granting its legitimacy, are too long. Communism is only a dream and was used to as a tool to rule.

I do not believe many Chinese people including those hign rank communist party officials even still believe it today. I bet if a polygraph were used on Hu Jintao, the boss of Chinese Communist Party, the result of him telling lie that he still believes in communism would be positive.

This could be the reason why so many Chinese government officials were corrupted. The evolution of this regime is acturally capitalism. Too many leeches in the government. However, they still use communism or socialism in their languages to boast that they are the best regime in the world.

Who is the most dishonest group of people? Chinese communist party members. Do not be fooled by their economic bloom. The potential crises are there. Just look at numbers of demonstrations with violence in China, you would know. Chinese society is on a barrel of explosive.

I wish they have the same fate of Soviet Union one day. Let us hope we do not have another 70-year birthday for this regime.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:41 AM

gbframe

Vancouver

If China was anything like Tibet in the 1920's where 30,000 individuals controlled many millions with terror and starvation then it is indeed a time to celebrate the freedoms gained under the revolutionary government.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:44 AM

Xiankun

Saskatoon

China is my birth country and Canada is my adopted country. I love both China and Canada. To me there is no difference between the two as they both start with “C”.

I went to the Parliament Hill in July this year for the celebration of Canada Day, and I will celebrate 60th anniversary of P.R. China in my heart in Canada.

In this world, there is no such human being who is superior to other human beings!
In this earth, there is no such place which is always better than other places!
Among all the political regimes today, no one is perfect.

After all, we are all one species – humans!

Posted September 30, 2009 10:55 AM

Tom

TO

Being a racially Chinese with British & Canadian citizenship and deemed Chinese resident, I love China as a country, minus the regime.

Under the regime, there is no human right, citizens lack ethics (poison food) and manners (spitting and talking aloud), bribery is common place. These are just tip of an iceberg.

I will not celebrate 60th anniversary of PRC

Posted September 30, 2009 11:15 AM

Helen

Toronto

I am proud of the rise of China and being a Chinese Canadian. As a tax payer, I would like to see CBC's attitude towards China be more objective and friendly.

Canada needs China both politically and economically.

Posted September 30, 2009 11:30 AM

Happy Birthday

Northing has been done? China has best infrastructures in the world. Its freeway is the newest and second-longest on earth. More than 100 new, big and modern cities have been established during recent years. According to report, China has advanced to the 29th place of the most competitive countries in the world ( Canada is 10th).

China foreign reserve has reached 2.2 trillions and Chinese people become richer and happier. 60 million Chinese citizens travel around the world becoming the largest source of tourists in the world. The modernization in China will be accelerated!

Happy Birthday!

Posted September 30, 2009 11:54 AM

Tom Zhang

I was a victim of a power struggle in a famous company in China between old and new Chinese government leaders. I had to leave China because the new leader wanted to get rid of us - the old leader's follower.

After about 6 years, the new leader was arrested and put into jail because he gambled in Macau and lost RMB 20 millions. I thought I could go back then but the result was disappointed.

The new new leaders in my previous company did not want me back because they thought I might want to compete power with them.

From the above fact, you can see that I could give fair comments to the current Chinese government. Chairman Mao's time was terrible but after Den Xiao Pin gained the power and he changed the power system a lot.

The most important is that no one can be the party leader for all his life. Chinese people are benefiting from this new power system. The free-market economy was established.

People's lives there became better and better. In this development speed, it could soon catch up with Japan and USA. Some countries need a lot of freedom. Some countries should not. We could only use the appropriate political system which really suits our economy then we will have a good results. Is Canadian political system perfect? No, you could see the power struggle among those different parties and they are consuming more and more tax payers' money.

So, my opinion is that if the economy in China is good and one-fifth of the world population there could be fed, leave it alone. Do not criticize them too much. We ourselves do not do a perfect job either.

Posted September 30, 2009 01:03 PM

2nd4ever

Hey hey, Happy B'day China and Chinese people.

Well for sure I will watch the celebrations and parade, love to see the PLA women soldiers in their hot mini skirt uniforms.

Glad to know that those Chinese here that don't like China are staying home, hate for them to teach their garbage in China.

Some day when China allows the Chinese people to vote, I hope they would vote for a Chinese leader that has the guts like those great past American presidents, the Truemans, the JFKs and the GW Bushs.

Posted September 30, 2009 04:01 PM

Damian

Edmonton

I LOVE Chinese and Chinese Canadians! They have some of the best friendly hosts and very good looking women.

Posted September 30, 2009 04:41 PM

cheech

toronto

I remember 10 years ago being in the march as a high school student...we were trained for months, day and nights, under the sun...it's like military: where you had to stand for hours without fainting. My school was considered the best in beijing thus we were located in the centre on Oct 1st, 09.

Oh, that great day with 10,000 students working on the tiananmen square...

Posted September 30, 2009 05:03 PM

Manzana

Vancouver

The "Chinese dictatorship" pulled over 300 million people out of poverty. Show me any democratic government has ever done the same.

Democracy== hypocrisy and inefficiency

Long live China, its people and beloved government! May you celebrate your birthday many many more!

Posted September 30, 2009 06:21 PM

LH

Toronto

It's the Chinese Communist Party's obsession to equate itself (the fascist totalitarian ruling party) with China (the country), so they can label anything unfriendly to the brutal regime as "anti-China." Sad to see this has worked so well.

They are also deeply insecure about their illegitimacy and are constantly trying to present itself as the "sole legitimate government of China" (a lie repeated a thousand times...) But hay let's call a spade a spade. A regime that mass murders its own people (80 million by some counts, likely higher more) has long lost any legitimacy whatsoever. It's only using force and deception to maintain its hold on absolute power.

China and the rest of the world would be so much better off when the mass-murdering CCP is removed from power.

L.

PS. China has existed for several thousand years, that's way longer than the 60 that the CCP is celebrating. And it'll be there (for the better) long after the CCP is gone.

Posted September 30, 2009 06:56 PM

need history role to review China

Toronto

A lot of comments here lack of sense and without the eye of history. Can you tell me 60 years ago Candada and USA what kind of democray the black people has and color people has ...,

Can you image Obama can become usa present 60 years ago...it is joke. So when you think about PRC of China, you need back to 60 years ago what kind of stituation of China. Why Mao can win civil war and realize revolution of China because it is like today Why Obama win present election --- the common thing is catching the common people's hope !!!!!

Posted September 30, 2009 07:43 PM

ling

Toronto

Today is a great day. All of the Chinese in cluding Chinese abroad will celebrate the splendent 60 anniversary . Hope my country will be more and more strong! In the last 60 years, she did have done a lot of arduous job to make people enjoy their lives.

Happy birthday!

Posted September 30, 2009 07:55 PM

Andrea Chun

Toronto

As a Chinese Canadian, I am happy to witness China's exponential growth is the last 2 decades. China has made great progress in many areas such as economic reforms, protection of personal property rights, increased personal freedoms, to name a few. China has firmly entrenched its position as a world economic and political powerhouse.

On October 1st, she will flex her weapons muscle and showcase to the world that China can do it all.
I hope in the next 60 years, China can also show the world that she will improve her record on human rights. She will stop arresting or harrassing lawyers who fight for human rights causes. I hope I will see universal sufferance in China in my life time.

True progress cannot be made unless coupled with fundamental changes in the entire political system, until corruption is stemmed and rule of law is being respected and enforced.

Posted September 30, 2009 08:00 PM

Luke

Commendations to the 60th Anniversary of the People's Republic of China!

Posted September 30, 2009 08:13 PM

M Larssen

Hi Difan from Calgary, The following sentences are not to stand against you. I have to remind you that 60yrs ago there was a Republic of China whose leader - Sun Yat-sen, the true father of the Republic was even highly respected by the people in China, including the communists.

His gov might not be that good, but that gov did not ruin any traditional culture as the communists did before and are still doing right now.

No one denies the contribution the communists have made, but the issue is whether you celebrate for the holy country or for the party? To me, something's even worse and far more evil than the 3rd reich under the party's rule.

Yet there're something I need to clarity: I agree that Falun Gong is a joke, in which only nuts would believe; I believe Tibet's been having close relationship with every generations of gov in China, including the current central gov, and the Tibetans recognize themselves as a part of China. There was no and should never have any independency in Tibet.

Do some vote in there, hear from the people, see whom they want their land to be governed by. I am pretty sure they last thing they want to see is to be divided from China. No matter you're with the communists or against it, one thing for sure is that do not criticize unless you know something for real, and this one is said to all around the globe.

Posted September 30, 2009 08:24 PM

Steve in PEI

Difan is right on the money. Rare good sense in all the rhetoric about China and the Communists!

In a perfect world China would have instantly morphed into a prosperous democracy 60 years ago and never had any worry about overpopulation or potential famine. If you think that that was ever a possible or even remotely probable outcome you are hopelessly naive.

For all their crimes, the Communists faced difficult challenges and achieved significant successes. Difan is right - this is not just for China but for the whole world. In the world in which we actually live they did about as well as anyone has any right to suspect, and that is why they enjoy some significant and real public support.

So, I will quietly celebrate on Oct. 1 and say a prayer for China's continued health and prosperity. China still has a hard road ahead and I hope that it takes them to a good place.

Posted September 30, 2009 09:15 PM

Anonymous

I would like to say Tom zhang's words is great I 100% agree with you!

Posted September 30, 2009 09:20 PM

LChen

Toronto

This whole facade is put on display again by the CBC and other Western media.

The bottom line is that the Chinese people and Chinese Canadians/Americans should be entitled to celebrate whatever they want to celebrate. There is no reason to be apologetic or to pledge one's allegiance to Canada or whatever.

Have you ever seen Jewish Americans/Canadians compelled to condemn what Israel has done to the Palestinians and denounce their Israeli cultural roots? No. Never. Why is it always the Chinese who have to prove their loyalty to Canada? Because they are Chinese?

The long history of ethnocentricism and racial discrimination, especially against the Chinese Canadians indeed have taken root in Canadian consciousness. Give us a break. Indeed, we see a number self-claimed Chinese Canadians eager to prove that they are not really Chinese, or I should perhaps say, they want to prove that they are more Canadians than the white Canadians, of course by condemning China and the Chinese.

I was born in China and now working in Canada. I was surprised to see so many Chinese-Canadians apparently compelled to pledge their allegiance toward Canada. I was even more surprised to see so many idiotic comments from those who took advantage of this occasion to spread their stereotypes of China and the Chinese in the disguise of criticizing the "Chinese Government" and in the name of human rights and Tibet and so on.

There are a lot of serious problems with the policies and governance of the current Chinese Government, but I would bet that even there is a totally new Chinese government in place, the same Western China-bashers would never stop attacking China, unless China becomes a Western or Canadian colony.

The point is that most of the hostilities toward China (for that reason, any other non-Western country) were derived from the China-bashers Orientalist bias and their still deeply-rooted imperialist fantasy to force another culture and civilization to become a copy of the Western empires themselves. That's why you see much less Canadian/Western criticism of India (a former colony of Britain) or Saudi Arabia (a contemporary underdog of Western imperialism), even though these countries have had the same or even worse track records in social/gender equality or human rights.

Posted September 30, 2009 09:55 PM

Adam

Ottawa

There is always critics of lack of free speach in China. But the majority of the Chinese are happy with their life. So, they have reason to celebrate. Mind your own business. As a Canadian we should think more about how to improve our competitiveness.

Posted September 30, 2009 09:56 PM

Anonymous

Once Tibet is free and independent again - then maybe Chinese-Canadians should be celebrating their 60th. Until then however, it hangs like a black cloud above any sort of celebration. This is only one mans opinion however, and i'm sure many will celebrate none-the-less.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:03 PM

Ruth Liu

For me there is nothing to celebrate but a big day to mourn. The Chinese communist regime highjacked China 60 years ago and turned it into a big prison.

60 years of brainwash and brutal ruling and killing successfully silenced any different voice. Nowadays only the most heartless or headless survive the best. Big tragedy in human history.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:11 PM

Fen

I'm very proud to be Chinese but not proud of Communism is still in China.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:17 PM

Mike

I am a Canadian living in China for employment. The government has blocked facebook, youtube, CTV and other websites.

A truck with a loud speaker went around on Monday telling every one if they did not put up a flag infront of there business, there would be trouble. Now if I travell in china during the holiday, I must go to the police station and give them my location of every day.

This place is messsed up. I reason to my self why I stay here? The reason is: There are good people here with big hearts. One day, these people will make Canada stronger by leeaving China. Happy birthday, communist party of china.

Posted September 30, 2009 10:41 PM

Unknown

Richmond

I am a chinese person, proud of it, and not about to take some crap from people who lash out at china. I'm sure that the 60th anniversary is very important to the people republic of china.

I, personally, don't take this as a super important event, but some people do. I would wish for the people to trash talk, to think and put themselves into another's person's shoes and think about something other than themselves.

We are all individuals, no matter what race, and human. Take the Me out of We.

Posted September 30, 2009 11:05 PM

Zhong

Burnaby

Happy 60th anniversary to People's Republic of China!

Posted September 30, 2009 11:21 PM

Shean Hwang

I turned off my tv and light a cigarette when I heard the sentence "long live our greatest country. long live our greatest party. long live our greatest people." said by the chairman of China.

I can not either be sure how many of you had seen the words which elemented by the people who were sitting down the Tian'an square.

"Give allegiance to our party. Love our people".
They always put the the world "party" above the people. Obviously, they do work as that way too. When will they be realized that, it is the people who created this country, and it is also the people who gave a breathing chance to this party.

If any amy worldwide which obey the party instead of their people. What a tragedy it is for this nation and his people.

Look at the amy which were shown on tv. If we had a tiny bit chance twenty years ago(1989). Can we be still fell it now?

Posted September 30, 2009 11:35 PM

Edward

Vancouver

I agree with Difan of Calgary's comments. What we don't realize and appreciate in a puny-sized country like Canada (population wise) is the absolutely massive population in China and what is needed to manage such a staggering amount of people.

Canada, and even the US, can't begin to comprehend the challenges. China's policies of reducing the birth rate is positive for all the world. If we humans keep procreating like somekind of virus, our planet is doomed and so are we.

Posted September 30, 2009 11:41 PM

Happy Birthday to My Motherland!!!

Hamilton

Happy Birthday to my dear motherland - China!(60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China)
I'm really proud of being a Chinese!!!
The new China is getting stronger and stronger due to the hard work of many Chinese people and the Communist Party.
China will definitely make more great progress in the new future.
Love you forever, my China!
Those who said unfriendly words to China and the Communist Party should be more polite and objective.
Everyone can see the great changes in China and how fast it developed.
Tomorrow will be better and better!
I'm watching on line live now, it is awesome, Beijing is very beautiful, much much better than here.The 60th celebration is amazing.
I love you - China!
All the best !

Posted September 30, 2009 11:44 PM

Anonymous

No foreign nation has the right to "demand democratic reform" for China. Only their own citizens have that right, and rightly so. How well has this forced spread of "Western democracy" helped countries like Iraq or Afghanistan? Their governments are a corrupt as ever, and the elections are nothing but a scam.

Chinese citizens have every reason to celebrate the 60th anniversary of CCP rule if they choose so. This is a party that has brought the nation from poverty to the forefront of international trade and politics in a few short decades, albeit with many human rights infractions along the way. However, the government has improved, and will continue to do so.

A nation with 1 billion possible voters is not ready for your style of democracy at this time, and may never be. The government will be forced to change their policies based on the moods in China, and it’s a process that will be unique and ultimately unpredictable.

However, it is completed arrogant to assume that the majority of Chinese citizens even welcome your "demands for democratic reform" on this day of national pride. How would you feel if they swarmed the Canadian embassy on Canada Day? As a Canadian, I know that I would be horrified and angry. Not appreciative.

Posted September 30, 2009 11:49 PM

Anonymous

Windsor

Chinese government is probably one of the most efficient governments in the world right now, and we should all congratulate the chinese people for establishing a peaceful and prosperous nation for the greater good.

One might argue that Chinese communist party doesn't offer basic human freedom, such as the right of speech and the right of vote. But look what the right of vote brought to the democratic world. All we ever got is some dude like mr. harper, or mr. bush who would match your basic uselessness and very unefficient.

What China do that democratic countries don't, such that if your house got destroyed by a hurricane, the government of China rebuilds it for you for free. If you live in Canada or any demcratic country, if you don't have insurance, screw you...

About the freedom of speech, you people voted your baisc idiot, then you just call him an idiot, here is your freedom of speech.

For anyone doubting the chinese culture, here's an idea, canada doesn't even have a culture, or some might call that some "culture"... what a laugh, just basic poeple hanging around laughing and drinking beer all day, maybe this is a reason why we should wonder why canada gets any development at all.

I, personally, absolutely believe China will become the top power in the world, I really dearly wish that, we might get some more peace in the world, unlike the recent U.S spreading their lies around the globe.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:09 AM

Anonymous

It is time to put aside misgivings about China. It is a different country now. The change is very positive and the people are living much better life. Chinese businesses are making great products and Chinese people are friendlier, peaceful and never arrogant.

If you ask, average people are proud about their country and they have every reason to celebrate.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:11 AM

Jenny

Edmonton

Lets not turn this into a China bashing fest again. This is the celebration of the 60th anniversary of New China. During the last 200 years Chinese people have been oppressed by many many different countries. 200 years ago Chinese people were seen as nothing and used as slaves in North America.

It is a feat in itself that the Chinese are at the social status that they are at today.

Thats what we're celebrating. Not the Communist Party, who mark my words, even native Chinese people bash, but the culture that has come this far.

I am a Chinese-Canadian, and I'm proud to be Chinese-Canadian.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:13 AM

sam xu

delta

I am a Chinese Canadian. I am proud of being a Canadian. And, I also proud of being a Chinese. Tears in my eyes now while I am watching the 60 anniversery parade in Beijing.

Yes, there are people have different views about communist party. I am not a supporter of the party and not against neither. But I was from China, I can tell you China won't have a good days like now if it is not ruled by communist party.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:26 AM

Brandt

While I respect what one of the people previous said about simply wanting to be called Canadian, It would feel for me a rejection of my heritage if I did not identify myself as Chinese Canadian.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:28 AM

Anonymous

every chinese ahould be proud of China's great achievement in the past 60 years. the celebration is not for Communist Party, it celebrate the 60 years of new China, strong China.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:28 AM

Tired of ignorance and idealism

Tokyo

Ive read some others comments here and must say that these 'pro democracy' people are slightly naive of what democracy is and what it required to run one. firstly all people can agree that it requires an educated and informed populace, which China is more than a little lacking, although it is getting better through education reforms.

China would have a hard time operating as a democracy at this point, all the rich and informed people would merely take control of the country and run it as a private business, exploiting the poor and uneducated.

I know Chinese politics are very corrupt, Ive lived there for more than 5 years I know how things work there, the corruption stems from a cultural practice called guanxi, it matters more who you know than what your capable of and people stick together and help out thier friends often by stepping on others.

the police are run more like a state mafia who extort money from business's that are illegal under chinese law, but are allowed to operate as long as you pay your dues to the local police.

such problems are recognized by the CCP and they are trying to crack down on these practices by making the punishment for corruption of a public official death, but no one wants to tell on anyone else for fear of their shady practices coming to light.

i think if anything china needs the iron fist to force change, or else it would become even worse.

also, free tibet? and then what? most of the people there are now Han chinese, what would you do with them? the dali lama is a fuedal theocrat, would you like it to return to a fuedal theocracy?

if anything china is creating infrastructure to help the country develop, i agree the development isnt even and the Han that live there are benefiting more, but i think that is also because the tibetans wouldnt do it themselves and arent, they are trying to maintain an old lifestyle that cant create wealth for themselves.

I am sick of idealistic hippies chanting free tibet, i dont think you have put much real thought into the matter and see the dali lama as a cuddly teddy bear who says nice things. but i dont think he has the capability nor the right to run a country, remember he wasnt elected he was born to be the lord and master and thats not democracy either. imagine if the vatican still ruled us all, would you like that?

by the way im not chinese nor am i a marxist/moaist communist.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:29 AM

Jane

Montreal

I am proud of being a Chinese Canadian. China and Canada are the two countries that I love the most. And I'm happy to see China become stronger.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:40 AM

Anonymous

I don't want to comment on the chinese government. But I really want to say that in the last 100 years many ordinary people have tried a lot to make our country better.

I think this is the most important thing. No matter which government we have, we are all Chinese and we live in the same country.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:48 AM

Anonymous

It‘s the People's Republic of China which is literally different from China.China has thousands of years history,but PRC was born only 60 years ago.Before that,it was the Republic of China that is known as Taiwan now.I'm proud to be a Chinese Canadian.Canada is a country combined various culture.It's the best proof.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:57 AM

Tenzin

USA

Being a tibetan, i have no objection over the (Han) chinese people being proud of today. But if this day is used to gag and turn deaf ear to the grievances of China's minorities, the majority Han chinese people would do well to stop and think if their prosperity is coming at the cost of the happiness of the minorities.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:59 AM

lily

BC

China is a great country. Chinese people love peace and like to be friends with people all over the world.
October 1 is her birthday. Chinese people love to celebrate her birthday, which is just like kids celebrate the birthdays of their mothers'.
I am proud of China.
I love China!
Happy birthdy to China!
Hopefully more and more people will treat China in a friendly and fair way.
Hopefully all of the world is a peaceful big family. There are no more wars, there are no more dislike between different countries.
Hopefully China and Canada will be good friends for good!
I believe that China will become stronger and stronger due the the China goverment working together with his people.
Long live China!

Posted October 1, 2009 01:01 AM

Shawn

I have lived in Canada for over 20 years but that doesn't change my love for my mother country. No one can ignore the greatest achievement that China has made over the past 60 years.

It has gone through some turmoils but it managed to thrive and successfully stand up proudly in front of the world. I am a proud Canadian and also a proud Chinese!

Posted October 1, 2009 01:05 AM

goodcat

toronto

Why are there so many people still focusing on the ideology and some political things? Wake up! We are living in 21th century and not 1950-60.

No matter white cat black cat, if it catches rats, it's a good cat. Why did China people choose Chinese Communist Party? Please read some basic China modern history and you'll get your own answer. Today is not the birthday of Chinese Communist Party.

Today is the birthday of the People's Republic of China. Congratulation!

Posted October 1, 2009 01:10 AM

Sunny

Montreal

who am i? Wherever i live, i'am only a Chinese. I love my country forever. Happy birthday my mom—— China~

Posted October 1, 2009 01:41 AM

Zhang

Ontario

If I make a comment here, will I be traced by a special agent from the Communism Military? I am afraid I will be like Jack Bauer in the steamship container and James Bond in N. Korea jail!!!

But, if China is not what is it today, would Chinese still be well respected abroad? Do you remember what happened to China in late 19th century? They got robbed because they weren't strong enough!

Posted October 1, 2009 01:44 AM

Kevin

Vancouver

I am not celebrating china's 60th birthday but after watching the military parade online i found myself really into a dilemma as for which side should i support, the PRC or the KMT, or even both?

Over the past 60 years of communist ruling, china had undergone a tremendous development in both economy and national defense.

The communist doctrine of "serving the public" had actually saved people's lives from the devastating earthquake as every rescue team member fought to the very last in exchange for any possible life signs. In comparison to how the US soldiers ruthlessly treated the hurricane victims, this along touched me. In addition, the spiritual influence the party had on the ordinary working people had set them in pursuit of further success to a certain degree.

And the atmosphere created by large masses of performances, marches on every pivotal event had led to the adhesive bond among citizens across the country, making it much easier to push a new policy or regulation into effect in this 1300000000 populated nation.

Dispite the suffers and even slaughters of hundreads of political rebels, peacefully living everyday of your life in china has proved to be something "DOABLE".

However switching the gear, the KMT on the other hand can also reshape the nation in a positive way if it were to take part in the regime. Just like what the whole world is concerned about, china thirsts for democracy and its people have grown tired of this century long dictatorship, ready to savor something new. KMT, with its idea centering around democracy, democracy, and democray, would definitely satisfy the population's need in rights to say and act.

However the answer is still hanged in the air as to how well is it going to handle a nation of over 1.3 billion people.
Overall, as a chinese, i support the chinese culture and am eager to see it's tommorrow as a more mature community.
Kevin S

Posted October 1, 2009 02:16 AM

Dan Lisk

Vancouver

There's nothing wrong with calling yourself Chinese Canadian or anything else for that matter. Be proud of where you originated from and add that to the Canadian Mosaic. We are not a melting pot like that US.

Let's Celebrate China but not communism. Communism might appear good on paper but has NEVER proven as a good style of ruling people. Yes I do mean ruling by the way.

Oppression is never good. Russia, North Korea and China have oppressed and repressed its people. Like I said celebrate the people and culture but wake up Communism is evil.

Posted October 1, 2009 02:40 AM

alex zhang

toronto

I am proud to be a Chinese Canadian. China is improving people's living standard at the fastest speed in the world, even under all developed countries jealousy and noise.

Posted October 1, 2009 02:57 AM

Will Zhang

Vancouver

Let's stop argue. Buy a ticket, fly to China, have a look. You will find Anthony Germain is lying and misleading!

Posted October 1, 2009 03:09 AM

Andre

BC

I'm a Canadian and have never been to China but I have a great admiration for the forward strides they have made in recent years.

I can't imagine that it is an easy feat to govern over 1.3 billion people. China is on the precipice of greatness. As an emerging economy, they'll benefit by learning from the mistakes of the west and should find themselves in a great position in upcoming years.

They will be the next innovators and it is the rest of the world, mired in its corrupt pseudo democracies run by tax evading corporations, who will be looking to the east for guidance.

Posted October 1, 2009 03:38 AM

donald wong

vancouver

instead of 1st of october, I prefer to celebrate 1st of july,because on 1st of july 1997, HONG KONG was repatriate to China peacefully through negotiation and without any bloodshed and war.

HONG KONG now is wealthy as before and acts as the bridge of China(under communist rule or not under communist rule)to the rest ofthe world.

Posted October 1, 2009 04:09 AM

Bagwell

Canada

Dear Wm Rig

If you think you are a Canadian, no one here will enforce you to be a Chinese or a Chinese Canadian. According to your comments, I think you will not celebrate the China's 60th birthday, so why you not just stay away and let others enjoy this moment?

Personally, I feel nothing can take away the honor to be a Chinese.I sinerely wish every Chinese family could be happy in this special day. By the way, today's parade in Beijing is the best one I have ever seen.

Posted October 1, 2009 04:57 AM

feelpity

Canada

OK. Here is an interesting thing. Any positive speech about China will be blocked by CBC, and any negative speech about China will be posted immediately. Those comments which attacking Chinese culture and humiliating Chinese will be posted to front line. What a democratic news agency you are!

Posted October 1, 2009 05:19 AM

J.J.

Beijing

I wanted to add, the reason the communists "Get things done" is because they steamroll everyone's rights. Also, they can get simple things done, like rezoning and building. But look at the three year delay for 3G phones and such. It takes them forever to do most things.

Posted October 1, 2009 07:16 AM

anonymous

Vancouver

Let us hope China makes it through the transition. If not, in Napoleon's words, 'The world will tremble.'

Posted October 1, 2009 09:13 AM

Yoshinogawa

Vancouver

Early last century Gertrude Stein penned the now-famous line "a rose is a rose is a rose." But as for diamonds, there are diamonds and there are diamonds. Consider that nowadays, when people give diamonds, they have to seriously give thought to whether those diamonds are ***blood-free, conflict-free, guilt-free.***

If that doesn't bring a quick recall, please research the problem of African diamonds.

In much of the mainstream West, not only are diamonds "a girl's best friend" but they are frequently included in the gift plans for a diamond anniversary.....e.g., the 60th (and incl. the 75th) year of a happily wedded life.

So how are we to consider the the diamond anniversary of the glorious People's Republic of China ??? This is not to malign the various peoples of China, of course.....but rather to point to the DEEP DENIALS AND DECEPTIONS inherent in the Beijing Regime's hypocritically concocted celebrations for their republic's 60th anniversary.

That is to say.....we all know that Beijing's current successes are built on the blood, conflict and sufferings inflicted on their people through invasion, confiscation of land and destruction of social, cultural, and religious cohesion.....repression, persecution, torture, deprivation of important freedoms.....we know the story about Tibet and the Tibetans, the Uighurs, Han Chinese political dissidents, Falun Gong members, protesters of administrative malfeasance, contravenors of Beijing's oppressive Internet usage laws.....and on and on down the line.

What Beijing doesn't seem to realize is that the time between 60 and 63 years of anything....whether organizations, individuals, or any greater collective.....this is a time of great change.

My fervent hope is that the intra-party movements towards reform and even democratic forms of government which have been growing in recent years will, during the next 3 years, come to crack the hard-core shell of the current regime.....and bring the sort of change in China that can begin to inspire confidence from the West.....rather than unease and fear.

In that spirit I wish the peoples of China a grand and happy anniversary !!!

Posted October 1, 2009 09:18 AM

Jason

Hamilton

More understanding and less prejudice, China is not bad if we know the real China.

Posted October 1, 2009 09:23 AM

Anonymous

Canada

"People's Republic of China"

If it is the "People's" republic, then why can't the people freely do what they want? I think it should actually be referred to as the "Communist Elite's factory of China".

Posted October 1, 2009 09:45 AM

M Guo

SK

Nowhere on earth is heaven. China has many reasons to celebrate. Hope everyone respect facts and truth. I would see the celebration in Canada. I would congratulate anybody's achievements. Happy birthday! China.

Posted October 1, 2009 10:01 AM

Puzzled and confused in Canada

PUZZLED after reading all the comments for and against the celebrations in China i'm wondering why those that support China and it's government never mention the millions that have been murdered, a number of real people somewhere between 2 to 3 times Canadas' total population.?

Rather they champion Chinas' progress. So are these millions that have been imprisoned, and murdered simply justified in your minds as a cost of doing business? And if so why don't you say so...?

Would you be willing to give your life to assist this so called progress? It's ok to be open and talk publicly about it as you are in Canada so you are allowed to speak out...nobody is going to come and get you...

CONFUSED why some comments read are from Chinese that have immigrate to Canada.andhave become Canadian citizens and are enjoying our wonderful country with it's democratic freedoms and they are many, especially when you compare governments. Yet they are very quick to say proudly "

i am Chinese first and Canadian second..." Did you adopt this country for personal gain only? It's like getting married and constantly telling your partner and your children " I know we are family but my true and first love is with my own mother and father and i will make a point of telling you as often as i can...

How does this do any body any good? Are you afraid some one will tell someone in China and if and when you return you will get into trouble and you will be imprisoned and probably murdered? Have you forgotten where you are and the freedoms that you have as a Canadian?

Is it not sensible to remember where you came from with love and respect but move forward with your own family as a Canadian...after all you are enjoying the freedoms and benefits of a western society . If you can't endorse your family as being most important the question is: should you continue to live with them?

MY COMMENT: If you are a Canadian Then celebrate being a Canadian first and be part of building a strong and healthy society but never forget where you came from and ...why and think carefully what you are celebrating.

Posted October 1, 2009 10:03 AM

Jim

Toronto

Proud to be Chinese, happy birthday P. R. China, the savor of the world, the moral leader of the world, the most powerful country of the world.

Posted October 1, 2009 10:36 AM

YJ

Toronto

I see China is heading toward the right direction. Ppl who keeps critizing the political system must remember, china has billions of ppl, the first thing to do is to feed them, dress them, educate them, FAST! Then we can talk about human rights, demoncracy.

For the 1st stage, the chinese government is doing a great job in the last 20 years, period. If Liberal or Conservative was doing the same job, God knows how long would tat take.

When people get sick, they don't necessarily take the same medicine. When it comes to political system, i dont think the western system will fit every country in the world.

Let them choose their own way of doing business. It's called diversity. Canadians claim we love diversity, how come we cannot tolerant one other form of political system?

Posted October 1, 2009 10:47 AM

Fei

Montreal

No matter where I am, no matter what citizenship I am, I love China. She is my MUM!!

Posted October 1, 2009 10:47 AM

Anonymous

I am so proud of China and Chinese people. They will never be defeated by anything.

Posted October 1, 2009 10:52 AM

Vince J.

Toronto

China as an ancient civilization deserves better than the shameful burden of the actions and policies of the last 60 years of communist rule.

Good for those Chinese who are communist party lackeys and those who are blissfully brainwashed of all the evil that lurks and acts from within their government. As for those that know and suffer under it, we hope they will somehow live to see democracy and freedom set in.
Due to their expansionist and hegemonistic mindset they have territorial disputes with almost every neighbouring country.

Thumbs down for the 60 years of communist party rule and their so called advancement and economic 'miracle' plundered from on the backs of poor Chinese and mother nature with their total disregard for environmental health and also the health of their own citizens and human rights and dignity.

Posted October 1, 2009 10:54 AM

Simon

MTL

I just wanna say Congratulations China!!!

Posted October 1, 2009 10:56 AM

mei

toronto

though it is 60anniversary, China is only 22years old. China is still a developing country. Keep on the reform and open policy.

Everyone knows communist central goverment does good jobs on developing the economy in recent years, it is unnecessary and even kind of cheesy to show off during the celebration using old type communist propanganda.

Hey, chinese communist, You are Not Communist!why not Just you change your name

Posted October 1, 2009 11:07 AM

Anonymous

Vancouver

I am very proud to be a Chinese-Canadian. For those people who have never been to China, they have no rights to make any imprudent judgements about it.

China is a very loving country who believes in harmony and compromise. Knowing where China comes from, the devastation caused by clonization of those foreign countries in the last century, what china has acheived lead by the communist party is impressive. they have every right to celebrate it.

By the way, most people in china is in deep respect of Mao ZeDong, a true leader with courage and wisdom. He revolutionizes how chinese think and do things. Although He made mistakes before, that only makes him a human being not a god. Communist party tried its best to satisfy everyone in the society, we should appreciate that.

Considering billions of people coming out of poverty, we should applaud the communist party that for that alone But china is a big country with a huge population, it takes time to become a fully developed nation like canada.

Posted October 1, 2009 11:17 AM

Rosa

Kingston

Everyone has the right to express and judge.
Nobody understands better than those who have lived for years on this amazing land.
Happy birthday, the world's next superpower, China!

Posted October 1, 2009 11:28 AM

John Yu

Halifax

On China National day, when me and my family were watching the splendid China National day Parade online and celebrating 60th birthday of our motherland together,we felt so proud to be Chinese. We felt so glad to see the Chinese government,at last, no longer being shy of showing off the world our economic strength and military power. As a Chinese who is living and working in Canada, contributing to the Canadian society, I felt so disappointed to see that CBC,the largest broadcasting company in Canada, did not have a single updated report on this great parade until now, in comparison to the BBC and ABC, which have tremendous media coverage on this great event. I hope the reason for this is not politically related. Yes,China is fast-growing in all aspects and it has already overtaken Canada in economics and military, but we are also peace-loving people,and we wish the people around the world the see the real China. I really hope the fast-growing of China will not become the reason that the CBC is now trying to hide the truth about China from their Canadian citizens.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:08 PM

Monica

Toronto

I am proud to be a Canadian Chinese. No matter what your citizenship is, as long as you inherited gene from your Chinese ancestors, you are Chinese. Every year on October the first, the song will come to my mind: Me and my Motherland. Just as what the lyric indicates that my motherland and I can't never be apart no matter what happens and where I am. I am a Canadian and I choose to live in this country because I like the land and people here. However it doesn't mean that I don't like China anymore. The fact is the farther I am from China, I more I feel about it and the more I miss it. I am proud of my motherland! I am proud to be a Chinese Canadian and I am working hard to let my motherland know that she can be proud of me as an oversea Chinese.

Happy 60th Anniversary, My Motherland!

Thank you CBC for providing this forum to see different perspectives in Chinese community. I want also to remind everybody that most of the immigrates from China won't come to CBC News to post their comments due to language barrels or their reading habits ( enjoys Chinese newspaper and other media). For those who really cares and are truly interested in reaching the real Chinese community and listening to their voices, you might want to do something different, such as survey or in-person interviews.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:09 PM

Dennis

I was so excited to watch the Live parade from Beijing.

Thanks canadian politicans to tell me what is democracy..

who care about communist? As long as They can bring chinese getting better and the nation stronger, who cares?

I hated PRC alot in 1989, but now I love her alot..

Posted October 1, 2009 12:12 PM

hui

quebec

It is a proud day for us to celebrate chinese national day. Chinese government had achieved great success to develop our economic. To mange this big country with such population is hard job. yes, there are some problems still like gap between the rich and the poor and democracy. But china is trying to improve these situation. Plus, we are not sure the western democracy system suit china's situation. Wish Canadians could be open-mind for that.

Posted October 1, 2009 12:53 PM

Codeman

Toronto

Chinese Canadian? Can someone care to define this for me? Chinese as a race, country, culture or a place? Or perhaps a nation like Quebec?

Are you an English Canadian? How do you feel about the English Queen as the head of the state for a "sovereign" country like Canada after 400 years?

Posted October 1, 2009 01:28 PM

/Canadian

Toronto

I have no problem with the "slash" in front of Canadian. That word in the front of "slash" could be "native", "africa", "european", "chinese", "italia", or any other words you name it.

But i do have concerns about those "people", or even other kind instead of "people", because they do not even know where they were coming from. and certainly they do not know where they should stay.

Posted October 1, 2009 01:56 PM

Anonymous

I am sooooo proud! so excited when watching the celebration in Tian an men Square. Happy 60th birthday, China!!

Posted October 1, 2009 02:12 PM

Chen

I am happy that China turned 60 on October 1st. In the past 60 years a lot of have happened in China. Good and bad things have happened, but that comes with the territory of progress. I wish China will continue to develop and evolve with the world, to make tomorrow more peaceful and pleasant.

I am proud of my self being a Chinese Canadian. I am proud to share my cultural background with other Canadians. And wish more Canadians would explore China and see this nation with objectivity rather with political lens. Multi-culturalism is what makes Canada unique and recognize everyone background is a beautiful thing.

Posted October 1, 2009 03:03 PM

Jack Congson

Canada

Chinese history spans centuries and the Communist Party rule of 60 years is but a blip in China's great history.

China today is no longer communist. It ceased to be so when Deng Xiaoping decided that: Poverty is not socialism. To be rich is glorious!

What we have is a country ruled by a tight fraternity of people passing themselves off as a Communist party and having complete political and economic control of a whole nation.

If the West thinks it can "corrupt" China by being in bed with her in capitalist investments, they sure have a surprise in store for them. They are no longer dealing with a Communist country. China is now another capitalist power vigorously competing for the same limited resources in the world.

As with all capitalist competitions in history, the road predictably leads to military confrontation.

Posted October 1, 2009 03:38 PM

Linyu Li

toronto

To Wm Rig

If theres no China or Africa you have NO WAY to become a canadian. You should be ashamed by your MOUTH.

Posted October 1, 2009 03:50 PM

Red Creek

Milton

UMMMMM One word.. COMMUNISM!!! I can't believe we actually support this. They kill their own people and inslave the masses. Canadians need to wake up and realize that we are being prepped for a Chinese take over. The Chinese government is the "model" Government for the NEW WORLD ORDER!!! Wake up! www.infowars.com

Posted October 1, 2009 03:55 PM

Edward Xu

Toronto

To the world, it's exciting to see China is rising as my mother country is celebrating its new-born birthday of 60th.

The whole world should feel proud of the great achievement made by Chinese people in a short period of up-down-up, very dramatic 60 years. When the Chinese culture gets a chance to broadcast across the world to have influence, this world will enter into a new era for peace, harmony, and prosperous.

Chinese army is the best army in the world because they never and will never invade any other countries. They are reliable protection force to all the people around the world.

Because of history and stubborn education in western allies, a country once being crowned with communism will never be good. At least, the weak point of non-democracy could be raised anywhere anytime.

In fact, no country in this world is really demorcratic yet. My observation in G8 countries tells me that the majority of working class people never can have a chance to enjoy life. Why? The rich are controlling everything by making new laws to regulate tax,....

Posted October 1, 2009 04:04 PM

Proud Chinese Canadian

Canada

Way to go China! Number one GNP and GDP in the world. Producer of 90% of goods for the world cleanly and efficiently emitting only 20% of world’s greenhouse gases.

Unlike the USA emitting the same 20% of the world’s green house gases but only produce less than 10% of the world’s goods. ( information from the recent G20)

China has become a strong and powerful country because it is still rule by one-party. China is not ready for democratic reform and cannot have the people to choose their government as 90% of the population is uneducated.

China had always been ruled by one King or one Party for thousands of years and it is impossible to change that system over the next few decades….may be a few centuries if it is even worth change at all. Because of some foreign countries want to slow down China or even take control of China, they use Democracy as an excuse to play games.

With all the large amount of uneducated people in China who can be easily pursued into evil thinking, freedom of speech will need to be control to maintain a functional society.

Take a look at Taiwan, democracy in action, (ha ha ha!), the ex-president is in Jail. The current president doesn’t know how to run a country. As a Taiwanese said on a news interview during the election: “we are picking our president from a basket of rotten oranges”

The only way to provide for and control billions of people in a country effectively and efficiently, ONE-PARTY is the only way for now and it has proved its success.

People in China should be proud of where China is today. China has ruling by a team of good leaders who are making China a country to live for its people, protect the country from foreign forces; and gain position in the world in a peaceful manner.

I am proud to say that I am a Chinese Canadian. Go-China-Go!

Posted October 1, 2009 04:11 PM

Phil

Lloydminster

I don't see why we are celebrating a revolution in which Communism came out as the victor. Why celebrate a regime that has killed tens of thousands of it's own people, suppressed religious minorities, eliminated free speech and despicable human rights record; the list goes on.

This is wrong how a democratic nation like our own would find something to celebrate out of this 60 year "celebration". This "celebration" is smoke and mirrors. The real China is never shown on the world stage.

Posted October 1, 2009 04:33 PM

ken

montreal

It is wasting a lot of money to have a kind of show to the world because there are so many many people are still very poor and can not get good education.It shows the government still has no confidence.It is a big shame for Chinese government.

Posted October 1, 2009 04:58 PM

j

I just went to China for three weeks.
They were preparing for national day.
Lanterns, etc.

You don;t see many pictures of mau or flags.
We were in rural china in Hunan.
The growth and building is exponetial.
Alot still done by hand.
Life seems to go on like it was, water buffalo and rice paddies.

you can see a vechicle from the thirties, or brand new BMW and Mercedes.
It is a land of great change
wait ten years.

Posted October 1, 2009 05:32 PM

Taylor

Vancouver

I am very proud of being a Chinese-Canadian. I hope China be the strongest country in the world! And I also hope both of Canada and China set up a very friendly relationship!

Posted October 1, 2009 06:00 PM

FMC

Vancouver

I'm a Canadian and also proud to be a Chinese Canadian. I'm very happy to see China has changedsto much in 60 years of Republic. It went through from bad time to good time. People seemed to be satisfied with their daily life, thier job and environment. I went back and forth for many visits and each time I witnessed changes took place in everywhere.

Communist party is just another political party, like our Conservative and Liberal, it's not an evil. I have no problem with any parties as long as it serves the people well and the current Chinese government is doing well for the people in general. Of course, there are more rooms for improvements. I'm proud to be a Chinese now more than ever.

Posted October 1, 2009 07:40 PM

Will Huang

Beijing

Although China is a one party rule country . But in 60 years CCP make big progress on people's living condition and comprehensive national strength . so Oct 1st is not only a new country's birthday but also Chinese people's grateful day.

Posted October 1, 2009 07:59 PM

Yoshinogawa

Vancouver

Early last century Gertrude Stein penned the now-famous line "a rose is a rose is a rose." But as for diamonds, there are diamonds and there are diamonds. Consider that nowadays, when people give diamonds, they have to seriously give thought to whether those diamonds are ***blood-free, conflict-free, guilt-free.***

If that doesn't bring a quick recall, please research the problem of African diamonds.

In much of the mainstream West, not only are diamonds "a girl's best friend" but they are frequently included in the gift plans for a diamond anniversary.....e.g., the 60th (and incl. the 75th) year of a happily wedded life.

So how are we to consider the the diamond anniversary of the glorious People's Republic of China ??? This is not to malign the various peoples of China, of course.....but rather to point to the DEEP DENIALS AND DECEPTIONS inherent in the Beijing Regime's hypocritically concocted celebrations for their republic's 60th anniversary.

That is to say.....we all know that Beijing's current successes are built on the blood, conflict and sufferings inflicted on their people through invasion, confiscation of land and destruction of social, cultural, and religious cohesion.....repression, persecution, torture, deprivation of important freedoms.....we know the story about Tibet and the Tibetans, the Uighurs, Han Chinese political dissidents, Falun Gong members, protesters of administrative malfeasance, contravenors of Beijing's oppressive Internet usage laws.....and on and on down the line.

What Beijing doesn't seem to realize is that the time between 60 and 63 years of anything....whether organizations, individuals, or any greater collective.....this is a time of great change.

My fervent hope is that the intra-party movements towards reform and even democratic forms of government which have been growing in recent years will, during the next 3 years, come to crack the hard-core shell of the current regime.....and bring the sort of change in China that can begin to inspire confidence from the West.....rather than unease and fear.

In that spirit I wish the peoples of China a grand and happy anniversary !!!

Posted October 1, 2009 09:11 PM

Raymond Liu

Toronto

Dear CBC,

What do you mean when you say: "China celebrates 60 years of Communist rule?"

According to your logic, am I correct to say that on July 1st, 2009 Canada celebrated its 142 years Colonial Rule over the Native American Land?

Shame on you, CBC, for your western biased Journalism!

Posted October 1, 2009 10:02 PM

J.J.

Beijing

"The "Chinese dictatorship" pulled over 300 million people out of poverty. Show me any democratic government has ever done the same."

Oh, I don't know the USA for one? And BTW, they haven't pulled them out of poverty, just starvation. I wish people would learn.

Posted October 1, 2009 11:14 PM

Titus Leung

Some more personal thought.

I went to China for several time. One of my trip was being in my hometown -- Yangjiang in western Guangdong Province. One of my most unforgetable memory was meeting with one of my uncles (my father's younger brother).

He was mad, after being tortured by Red Guards for nights. My father also told me that one of his cousin was thrown before a running locomotive by the Red Guards. During the Cultural Revolution, my father's family was forced to be beggers, and live with constant starvation.

If they didn't sent my father to Hongkong around 3 years before (which was around another political movement, the Great Leap Forward, as it turned into a nationwide femine with tens of millions of peasants was staved to death because of Mao Zedong's stupid policy), they will all die.

Another reason for me to be a Canadian Citizen.

I always remember these words, as I put them on my Facebook page: "Forgetting history, you will lose both eyes" (Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn)

Posted October 2, 2009 02:24 AM

Alex

Canada

Celebrations are meant to be a coming-together of people for when they all have something to be happy about. When celebrating, people get together in homes and on the streets.

For the 60th, people in China were ordered to stay in their own homes and to keep their windows closed.

The celebrations for China's 60th has such an exclusive guest list that it would be more appropriate to call it Jintao's night of personal entertainment.

This is not, in any sense of the word, a celebration, but an international demonstration of military might and of the government's power to make uniformed people dance in orderly rows.

I think this 60th celebration has been a failure. While many people within China have been effectively brainwashed by propaganda such as The Founding of a Republic, all international media reporting on the event have mentioned the severe restrictions under which the celebration took place.

They all mention the failure of the government to include its own people in the celebration. Nobody is fooled by China's attempt to dazzle with shows of pretty lights.

I love China, and I love the Chinese people. But I don't think the government in China feels the same way, and so today I am ashamed of being Chinese.

Thank you CBC for giving us a forum to post our opinions.

Posted October 2, 2009 08:10 PM

lisa

edmonton

i love china.

Posted October 3, 2009 02:05 AM

Yoshinogawa

Vancouver

Early last century Gertrude Stein penned the now-famous line "a rose is a rose is a rose." But as for diamonds, there are diamonds and there are diamonds. Consider that nowadays, when people give diamonds, they have to seriously give thought to whether those diamonds are ***blood-free, conflict-free, guilt-free.***

If that doesn't bring a quick recall, please research the problem of African diamonds.

In much of the mainstream West, not only are diamonds "a girl's best friend" but they are frequently included in the gift plans for a diamond anniversary.....e.g., the 60th (and incl. the 75th) year of a happily wedded life.

So how are we to consider the the diamond anniversary of the glorious People's Republic of China ??? This is not to malign the various peoples of China, of course.....but rather to point to the DEEP DENIALS AND DECEPTIONS inherent in the Beijing Regime's hypocritically concocted celebrations for their republic's 60th anniversary.

That is to say.....we all know that Beijing's current successes are built on the blood, conflict and sufferings inflicted on their people through invasion, confiscation of land and destruction of social, cultural, and religious cohesion.....repression, persecution, torture, deprivation of important freedoms.....we know the story about Tibet and the Tibetans, the Uighurs, Han Chinese political dissidents, Falun Gong members, protesters of administrative malfeasance, contravenors of Beijing's oppressive Internet usage laws.....and on and on down the line.

What Beijing doesn't seem to realize is that the time between 60 and 63 years of anything....whether organizations, individuals, or any greater collective.....this is a time of great change.

My fervent hope is that the intra-party movements towards reform and even democratic forms of government which have been growing in recent years will, during the next 3 years, come to crack the hard-core shell of the current regime.....and bring the sort of change in China that can begin to inspire confidence from the West.....rather than unease and fear.

In that spirit I wish the peoples of China a grand and happy anniversary !!!

Posted October 3, 2009 02:37 AM

Wayne

Toronto

I don't think China is perfect in many aspects. Nontherless, we have to acknowledge and congratulate the nation and the chinese people who have progressed and achieved so much in 60 years which NO country in the world has ever done before.

They must have done some thing right for the people and the country. I find some of the postings here simply reflect the authors' utter ignorance about China and arogance of themselves.

Posted October 4, 2009 07:50 PM

Yoshinogawa

Vancouver

Early last century Gertrude Stein penned the now-famous line "a rose is a rose is a rose." But as for diamonds, there are diamonds and there are diamonds. Consider that nowadays, when people give diamonds, they have to seriously give thought to whether those diamonds are ***blood-free, conflict-free, guilt-free.***

If that doesn't bring a quick recall, please research the problem of African diamonds.

In much of the mainstream West, not only are diamonds "a girl's best friend" but they are frequently included in the gift plans for a diamond anniversary.....e.g., the 60th (and incl. the 75th) year of a happily wedded life.

So how are we to consider the the diamond anniversary of the glorious People's Republic of China ??? This is not to malign the various peoples of China, of course.....but rather to point to the DEEP DENIALS AND DECEPTIONS inherent in the Beijing Regime's hypocritically concocted celebrations for their republic's 60th anniversary.

That is to say.....we all know that Beijing's current successes are built on the blood, conflict and sufferings inflicted on their people through invasion, confiscation of land and destruction of social, cultural, and religious cohesion.....repression, persecution, torture, deprivation of important freedoms.....we know the story about Tibet and the Tibetans, the Uighurs, Han Chinese political dissidents, Falun Gong members, protesters of administrative malfeasance, contravenors of Beijing's oppressive Internet usage laws.....and on and on down the line.

What Beijing doesn't seem to realize is that the time between 60 and 63 years of anything....whether organizations, individuals, or any greater collective.....this is a time of great change.

My fervent hope is that the intra-party movements towards reform and even democratic forms of government which have been growing in recent years will, during the next 3 years, come to crack the hard-core shell of the current regime.....and bring the sort of change in China that can begin to inspire confidence from the West.....rather than unease and fear.

In that spirit I wish the peoples of China a grand and happy anniversary !!!

Posted October 5, 2009 09:25 PM

Zorro Lee

I am a chinese people, I am confident with the future of my motherland, also as the development of Chinese Govt, I believe the problems on Democracy, Corruption, Human Rights will be solved. Give them some time, they are only "60 year old" which is a young age compare with many other countries =D

Posted October 13, 2009 02:59 AM

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