The fate of a program that puts uniformed police officers in some 75 schools across Toronto remains up in the air until the end of the year. 

After debating into the night Thursday about whether to end the controversial program, the Toronto Police Services Board voted to defer a decision until December, instead striking a committee to review the matter.

"We're tired of reports. They happen all the time," Pascale Diverlus of Black Lives Matter told reporters after the meeting came to an end.

"This is an urgent matter. There are children that are being handcuffed at the age of six years old. There are children that are being targeted. There are children that don't feel safe going to school because there are police officers in their school."

More than 70 people spoke for and against the program at the almost eight-hour debate about the School Resource Officer (SRO) program, which launched in 2008 following the fatal school shooting of 15-year-old Jordan Manners. The program has placed officers in 75 different schools, semi-permanently, across the city. 


Pascale Diverlus of Black Lives Matter, left, says she's tired of reports and wants action. (CBC)

Andre Breau, co-chair of the parent council at Western Technical and Commercial School, was there to lend his support for SRO.

"It's been positive, as far as our school experience. The students have reacted positively," said Breau, who has a daughter in Grade 9 and a son in Grade 10. 

Earlier in the day, the meeting adjourned for a short time after protests erupted. 

"Black kids, you matter here!" chanted demonstrators, as the meeting room was temporarily cleared Thursday afternoon.

Nick Mills has been teaching at C.W. Jeffreys Collegiate Institute, where Manners was shot, for the past five years.

He said the SROs have been a big part of the school's transformation and he wants to see the program continue.

Nick Mills

Nick Mills has been a teacher at C.W. Jeffreys Collegiate Institute for five years and says the presence of a police officer in the school has been positive. (CBC)

"You want all communities to see police as a trusted partner — not as the enemy. And when they're only coming in when there's a problem, well then, that's when the perception [comes in] that they're not us," Mills said ahead of the meeting. "Ending the program is not a good idea."

Student Andrew Ramautar, 14, was less sure, saying he sometimes feels uncomfortable seeing officers walking the halls.

"I do feel that they can be a little discriminatory," said Ramautar, but said he wouldn't necessarily want the program scrapped. 

Andrew Ramautar

Student Andrew Ramautar, 14, says he sometimes feels uncomfortable seeing officers walking the halls. (CBC)

"Even though I feel intimidated, I feel like it would be a lot more dangerous [without them]," he said.

Meaghan McGarry, an SRO co-ordinator, said that during her time as an officer in schools, students would approach her about everything from breakups to problems at home, trouble with the law or just to say hello.

"As a police officer and a parent, I look at all these kids as my own," McGarry said. 

Meaghan McGarry

Meaghan McGarry says that during her time as an officer in schools, students would talk to her about a range of topics. (CBC)

At its May meeting, the board voted to review the program, which deploys 36 officers to the 75 participating schools. That means less than 10 per cent of Toronto's public schools have an officer stationed there.

Toronto police spokesperson Meaghan Gray said in an email that officers are invited into schools by principals, who need the approval of the school's superintendent, council and trustee. Most stay at the school for three years, she said.

The police force spends some $3.5 million on the officers' salaries and benefits, Gray said, but the program doesn't have a specific budget otherwise. Programming funds come from private donations or organizations like the charity ProAction Cops & Kids.

But lawyer Saron Gebresellassi said officers in hallways doesn't keep students safe.

'It's not against police, it's about policing.' - Ken Jeffers, Toronto Police Services Board member

"It's having the exact opposite effect. It's actually marginalizing students and having a really detrimental effect on their well-being," she told CBC Toronto.

Gebresellassi has defended a number of youths who faced criminal charges for incidents at schools where officers were present. She also works with Black Lives Matter Toronto, one of the loudest voices calling to end the program.​

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While some want more police officers in Toronto schools, others are calling for that practice to be suspended immediately. (John Rieti/CBC)

Mayor says decisions should hinge on study results

Mayor John Tory said he heard concerns about the program during the city's recent consultations on how to deal with anti-black racism, and that he takes those concerns seriously. But that doesn't mean he'll scrap the program.

"To me, it is just not the way you should make big decisions," he said, noting many people have instead called for more officers in schools.

Toronto Lawyer Saron Gebresellassi

Human rights lawyer Saron Gebresellassi says the School Resource Officer program isn't keeping students safe. She hopes Toronto's police board will end it. (Makda Ghebreslassie/CBC)

Tory said he wants to wait for a full review of the program — an interim report is due in August — before deciding.

The board agreed, voting to strike a committee with two board members and the police chief to draft the report. After August, the committee will open to "participants who reflect a diversity of views."

With files from Linda Ward, Shannon Martin, Kira Wakeam, Ron Charles