Quebec engineer admits collecting cash for municipal parties

The head of Génius Conseil engineering testified Montreal public works contracts were routinely inflated 25 to 30 per cent, the cash his firm kept then turned over to political parties.

Michel Lalonde describes how fundraiser took 3% on all contracts

The Charbonneau commission is back with bombshell allegations. 1:48

A private engineering consultant dropped a bombshell on Quebec's corruption inquiry this afternoon, testifying Montreal public works contracts were routinely inflated by 25 to 30 per cent, his firm then turning over a portion to municipal political parties.

The president and CEO of the Montreal-based structural engineering firm Génius Conseil, Michel Lalonde, described how contractors with whom he was on friendly terms were "accommodated" through inflated project estimates or by approving cost overruns.

However, he insisted the cash his firm collected through this process was never pocketed, but always turned over to municipal political parties — either by getting associates who were residents of Montreal to write cheques for fundraising tickets, or simply by handing over cash to the parties.

Political financing 'dates back to Duplessis,' Lalonde says 

Lalonde said far from being a new phenomenon, "the financing of political parties went on in the days of Duplessis," and his firm, formerly known as the Séguin Group, made political contributions to the parties of every mayor elected since it began doing business with the City of Montreal — dating back to Jean Drapeau's tenure in the '60s, Jean Doré two decades later and, in the '90s, Pierre Bourque. 

In 2001, Lalonde's firm backed Bourque's losing party, Vision Montréal, and he testified it took a good year or two before the engineering group was able to establish a working relationship with Gérald Tremblay's winning Union Montréal party.

Videotape of Dumont's interview excluded from inquiry

Commission counsel Denis Gallant announced this afternoon the inquiry will exclude the controversial videotaped interview of former Union Montréal party organizer Martin Dumont from the inquiry's proceedings.

The commission reached that agreement with Dumont's lawyer, Suzanne Gagné, after Gagné said she would seek a ruling from Quebec Superior Court on whether her client's rights had been violated during parts of the interview which were not recorded.

Charbonneau has decided to not drag out the matter, in order to concentrate fully on the inquiry's mandate of exposing corruption in Quebec's construction industry.

Duchesneau believes Dumont

Meanwhile, Coalition Avenir Québec justice critic Jacques Duchesneau said today he still believes in Dumont, despite his admission earlier this week that he fabricated last October's testimony about a cash-counting receptionist.

The former police chief and corruption investigator has been acquainted with Dumont since he ran as a Nouveau Montréal candidate in Duchesneau's failed bid for Montreal's mayoralty in 1998.

Duchesneau acknowledges helping a nervous Dumont prepare for his appearance before the Charbonneau commission last October.

Duchesneau told CBC's Radio Noon host Bernard St-Laurent that he's not surprised Dumont's credibility is under attack.

"When you are a whistleblower, other people will come up with different stories," he said, adding it's up to commissioner Charbonneau to sort out the truth.

"We need to wait until all the witnesses are heard, and then we're going to be able to draw some conclusions," he said.

Lalonde said eventually, he got a call from Union Montréal party's fundraiser, Bernard Trépanier, to make a $2,000 contribution to an event for former executive committee chairman Frank Zampino.

He said he knew Trépanier slightly from his days as a federal Conservative Party fundraiser in the '90s, but their working relationship soon became more intense in the fall of 2004, with the approach of the 2005 municipal election campaign.

"I met Mr. Trépanier, and he said, 'Listen. Everything seems to be going well, we have to position ourselves for the next election ... We have to start talking about financing," Lalonde testified. "He said, 'Listen, Michel ... you're one of the firms that's well-positioned to get contracts. Then he asked me …for $100,000."

Lalonde said bigger firms than his were asked to contribute $200,000.

Trépanier comes up with '3%' solution

Lalonde said Trépanier was looking for a long-term fix for raising enough money for his party's political needs, and Lalonde testified Trépanier told him from that point on, he'd be expected to turn over three per cent of the value of all contracts his firm won to Union Montréal.

He said he paid Trépanier the $100,000 in cash over a period of months, in five or six instalments, meeting him "discreetly" in his office at the party's political headquarters on Saint-Jacques Street.

"He'd close the door, and often, as you've heard, the blinds would be drawn," Lalonde said. "I'd give him the money. That's it."

Earlier, the inquiry heard from former Union Montréal organizer Martin Dumont that Trépanier — known as "Mister Three Per Cent" — once had his office vault so stuffed with cash that he wasn't able to shut it without help.

Asked how it was he never questioned being asked for so much cash to finance the party — amounts far in excess of the $1,000 annual individual contribution that was legal at the time — Lalonde explained it was just the way the system worked.

"If they want to invest more than what they're allowed in order to win an election, you understand, they want to win, they'll take whatever means necessary to win," Lalonde said. "The only way to do it is with cash."