Two Winnipeg women are speaking out after being discharged from Winnipeg hospitals during mental health crises, in light of Reid Bricker's disappearance.
Stephanie Siddle, 29, has been released at least 10 times from various Winnipeg hospitals, in some cases within hours of trying to kill herself, she said.
"I can't believe I'm still living and that I don't have any brain damage," she told CBC News. "I feel like the mental health system has failed me."
Her story is eerily similar to Bricker — the Winnipeg man who disappeared following his release from a Winnipeg hospital in Oct. 2015 where he was under care for attempting suicide, hours before.
Siddle, a smiley, soft-spoken, university graduate lives with anxiety, depression and borderline personality disorder — the same host of mental health issues Bricker battled.
She has tried to end her life so many times — at least 10 — she's admittedly beginning to lose count.
"Those thoughts came when I was about 15. I would have a lot negative thoughts. I did think about death. I didn't think of an exact 'way to do it' but I did think 'Oh wouldn't it be great if I wasn't here.' Those thoughts got more severe at 18. And then 20 was it started getting really bad," she said.
Discharged from multiple ERs
Siddle's first brush with a Winnipeg ER came at age 20 after deliberately overdosing on pills. Her sister found her unconscious in her North Kildonan bedroom and her mother rushed her to Concordia Hospital.
"I don't think I even stayed there a whole night. I was released, maybe the next morning. I don't remember the doctors saying 'Do you feel suicidal? Do you need more help?,"' she said.
'I don't remember the doctors saying, 'do you feel suicidal? Do you need more help?'' - Stephanie Siddle
"That was the first time I got the piece of paper full of resources like the crisis line and stuff like that, but when you're in that state you don't feel like calling for help. So it didn't really help at all."
Over the next 10 years, Siddle said she was in and out of Concordia a few other times, within hours of making attempts on her life, including the day before her 27th birthday when she "took every single pill she could find."
"I left my house and went to someone else's house so I could go away silently...I didn't want anyone to find me."
A day later she woke up, and out of fear of what she'd done, she said she took herself to Concordia.
"I saw a doctor but I was gone, I think, the next day. I went back home and pretended everything was normal," she said. "It was hell because I was still really depressed."
In 2013, she visited Winnipeg's Crisis Response Centre, only to be sent home after a few hours with another load of pamphlets, she said.
"A doctor who was really over confident came in, and he was young and he said 'Well, you're 26 you should really just get over it, it's time to grow up now,' so I left there and I never wanted to asked for help ever again," she said.
In June of 2015, Siddle said she was assessed and released from St. Boniface Hospital — in a cab in the middle of the night — hours after arriving for trying to take her own life, similar to Reid Bricker.
A few weeks later, Siddle would make what her family calls the most serious attempt. She was recovered by strangers, in the Assiniboine River under the Osborne Street bridge.
After this incident, Siddle was able to secure a spot in a residential treatment centre where she said she is finally getting the help she's needed all along.
"The mental health system needs to be more available to people...When someone does try to commit suicide we need to find them help right away. We should get people to get help before they leave the hospital that they have a plan that they have a therapist to go to that's free, that they have maybe groups just more stuff in line."
After six months in residential treatment, Siddle said she now has hope for the future. She hopes to use her psychology degree to help others. She also has a place of her own and a partner, she said.
Discharged at 1 a.m. with bus ticket
Stephanie Chartrand, said she too has been released from a Winnipeg hospital overnight in a vulnerable mental state.
The 32-year-old who lives with severe depression and anxiety was brought to the Health Sciences Centre by police, during a psychotic episode in August 2014.
"I was brought into the hospital and for what I believe was 24 hours I did not sleep, I did not eat, I did not pee, I just sat there, talked to some psychiatrists, doctors," she said, adding she eventually fell asleep and when she woke up a few hours later and was told she was free to go.
'They told me straight up they needed the room for someone else.' - Stephanie Chartrand
"They told me straight up they needed the room for someone else," she said, adding there was no follow-up plan and she was given a bus ticket.
It was 1:00 a.m. and she said she had no keys to her apartment, no cell phone and was given a bus ticket, despite the fact buses were not running. She didn't know at first, that her mom was there to take her home.
"It feels like people with mental health problems don't matter. They just wait for us to have a moment of clarity and that's when they ship you off. And it's frustrating."
When Chartrand learned of Reid Bricker's overnight discharge, she identified immediately.
"That could have been me," she said. "If I wasn't lucky enough to have someone with me I would never have made it home that night. There should be plans in place that...for any human being that comes in involuntarily there has to be follow up in place."
Since the episode, Chartrand said her mental health has kept her from holding a job and she said she has been unable to obtain a psychiatrist.
Task force looking at changes: WRHA
Dr. Murray Enns, medical director of mental health services for the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority (WRHA) said not everyone in a mental health crisis can or should be admitted to hospital.
"Obviously, it's a specific resource and it has it's place," he said.
"But, it's not the answer for everyone presenting [with a mental health issue]."
Enns said roughly 12,000 people visit emergency departments or Winnipeg's Crisis Response Centre each year with mental health concerns.
Only 2,400 are admitted to hospital, he said.
Still, Enns acknowledges the serious risks that come with mental health crises.
"People … are at risk for self-harm. They're at risk for completed suicide and we offer services to try and get people help to reduce that risk," he said.
"But, the nature of the person's mental illness typically is not something that is cured in hospital."
An emergency physician and various mental health teams make "clinical judgments" about discharging patients within hours of their arrival with mental health concerns, Enns said.
The team does not release patients that are not competent to make their own decisions.
"If a person is having a psychotic illness and isn't in touch with reality, that person will not likely be able to reason about their health care decisions," he said.
"Somebody right after a suicide attempt might be quite competent; quite connected, alert, oriented, very well-aware of their circumstances."
Enns said every patient who presents with a mental health issue is seen by an emergency doctor, who may call on a psychiatry team if necessary.
Upon release, patients are equipped with an individualized plan for follow-up care, and arrangements are made for transportation and notifying a loved one if they choose.
Discharge procedures are under review in light of Reid Bricker's disappearance.
The WRHA's CEO Milton Sussman is chairing a task force to examine potential changes that could be made to improve them.
The task force will look at an array of items including how personal health information is used and shared, as well as potentially modifying discharge protocols for mental health services, said Enns.
Money for mental health at 'bottom' of budget
Chris Summerville who heads the Schizophrenia Society of Manitoba said lack of funding and staff continue to be the main factors holding back mental health services in Manitoba.
Summerville said four per cent of the province's total health care budget goes toward mental health services.
"That means that we're at the bottom of the health care budget," he said, adding with one in five people struggling with mental health, it should be a higher priority. "The Mental Health Commission of Canada says that our funding should be up to at least 12 per cent."
In light of Reid Bricker's disappearance, the province has committed to looking at discharge protocols and health privacy legislation to try and improve services. Summerville said until this becomes a louder public issues, services will continue to suffer.
"The public has to advocate and lobby and scream loud on this," he said. "Mental health has to be a major issue and that will get the attention of the politicians.
"The cry is getting louder but it's not as a loud as it should because unfortunately you're dealing with public social prejudice and stigma."