It's become a go-to slogan for city planners and plenty of politicians.
But what does it mean exactly, and is sustainability even possible?
Kamloops city councillor Donovan Cavers spent a few days last week picking up ideas to answer those questions.
He was in Windsor, Ontario at a conference dedicated to sustainability in Canada's towns and cities.
Daybreak host Shelley Joyce speaks with Cavers before he returns home.
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