When trying to articulate the issue of water both in the reality
of Canadian politics and his film H2O, Gross is energetic and captivating.
“As the writing started to unfold, water appeared to be a wedge that
broke something open… now the film is more an argument about
the future of the country than about whether we should or shouldn’t
sell water. That’s part and parcel of a much larger question
of ‘where are we going?'"
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Gross’ Prime Minister is a man of
action, and ends up in water "stepped in so far that, should
I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o'er".
“The water stuff is underway and
in effect; it’s going faster than I thought it would…
water tables are dropping in the American southwest faster than
anybody predicted they would. The consortion of municipalities
in Illinois is declaring rights to the Great Lakes.” Gross
looks into his latte. He thinks about taking a sip, but simply
swishes the liquid around.
“That four dimensional government
interaction I was talking about (see democracy 1) seems
incapable of coming to grips with those longer-range issues. The
Northwest Passage is going to open up – probably within
the next five years. We will have tankers going through there.
There will be some kind of ocean-going disaster in the world’s
most fragile ecosphere. Do we have any sort of policy about this?”
“It’s a big deal and it’s
going to be a huge issue for Canada soon. We fall back on a
historical policy that we don’t treat water as something
that’s for sale – but we do sell it. As we say in
the show – the plea is ‘if your neighbour is thirsty,
would you deny him a glass of water?’”
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H2O is a powerful, political thriller.
The material lends itself to a wide variety of treatments, each
of which has its own pitfalls.
“If you think of what went on with
Halliburton, it’s not even a conspiracy. It makes conspiracy
theory scripts very complicated now because the conspiracies are
out in the open. ‘These guys will tell us what the standards
for outsourcing at the Pentagon are – and then we’re
going to look around for who to hire and… well these are
the only people who meet the standards so, hire the very people
who put the standards in place’. Nobody’s lied. Technically
it’s legal. I’m not really a conspiracy theorist –
largely because I don’t think anyone can keep their mouths
shut.”
He continues, indicating that while
conspiracy theories or the illuminati behind closed doors are
a stretch for him, there’s more to power than meets the
eye.
“A lot of the plot in H2O was lifted
straight out of a presentation at one of the gatherings of the
Bilderburg group. This is a legitimate group of wealthy and powerful
people from different kinds of business from all around the world
and it was named after the first time they had a meeting at the
Bilderburg Hotel in Oosterbeek, Holland. They get together and
discuss, in an unofficial way, the trends of the world and how
they might be able to affect those policies. It’s not all
mean - some of it might be – but it is cash oriented and
they are secret meetings. It’s not open to the public. It’s
not the UN. A presentation there outlined a scenario for the dissolution
of Canada. That’s a great plot, so we pulled elements from
that.”
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The climax of the film somewhat revolves
around Canada’s relationship with the US. On this topic,
Gross is cautious.
“We can’t talk about that.
I’m not trying to say anything with it. To a certain extent,
it makes sense to me. It’s that terrible push and pull
in Canadian history from Pearson to Mulroney singing ‘Irish
Eyes' to Trudeau basically telling the U.S. to fuck off. Canada
is uniquely positioned in the world as being the closest partner
to the U.S. If we can hang on and have our own independent voice,
we can have a considerable influence.”
Gross warms up again.
“There was a lot of wailing and
crying about Chrétien saying, ‘don’t go into
Iraq’ – and I happen to agree with him on that.
It was an unnecessary engagement. All these people were saying
‘oh, no the Americans are going to hate us!’ Of
course they’re going to say that they’re pissed
off at us’ but it doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t
mean they're going to tear up trade agreements. They DO stuff
with us. We’re interconnected. And we have a right to
have our own opinion. We’re always trying to find that
dividing line – and what I was kind of trying to say with
H2O was that we have to watch it, because we live in the shadow
of a gigantic power unlike the world has ever known. I would
argue maybe even to rival Rome.”
Gross sits back.
“My Prime Minster plays for keeps.
He’s going flat-out in service of what he thinks would
be the best thing for the country in the long run. But he overplays
his hand.”
The afternoon has darkened. It’s
gray and pours rain outside. Gross pensively looks on.
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