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The Unofficial Story: Discussion
Originally broadcast on November 27, 2009  |  Comments 377

Eight years after the events of September 11th, opinion polls show that a majority of Americans believe the Bush administration had advance knowledge of those attacks and in one way or another allowed them to happen. And polls show that one Canadian in three believes that, too. Bob McKeown interviews some of the leading proponents of conspiracy theories to try to understand some of the unresolved issues and to ask: why?

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"I could go on but I think I have made my point" - This is how Amy ends her comment.

You have no point at all I am afraid...

And you too, are a self-made expert as well - but in psychology and human behaviour. You also have picked up on what others have said and formulated your opinion, haven't you?

And the "guy" was from Popular Mechanics - not Science.

Robert  Man — Posted on April 27, 2010 01:14 PM

I find it so funny how people express their opinions which are really based upon little or no facts. It seems that in recent times everyone thinks they are experts in every field. I think most people are experts at TV watching and internet surfing. I wonder what makes everyone feel that they are so knowledgeable. Take for example the buildings falling down. Even people who are experts in the field cannot agree on the cause but yet there are people writing comments on here who feel we should just take their word for it. I understand that in North America we have the right to have an opinion and to express it (I am thankful to the government for this right) but sometimes I wonder if people take it too far. It seems that people just say whatever comes to their mind. Each person should really pause and think for a moment if they really know what they are talking about. Just because you read it on the internet does not mean it is true. I would love to know where people got the information for the elaborate behind the scenes motives of the US government? Let me guess it is a mixture between your imagination, movies and "reliable" internet websites. I found it interesting that the guy from 'Popular Science' mentioned that people expect to much from movies. I have heard police officers mention this as well since jurors are expecting the same ridiculous amount and type of evidence found on the TV show 'CSI'. I could go on but I think I have made my point. I am curious to hear all of your expert opinions on this!

Amy  Canada — Posted on April 14, 2010 09:02 AM


CBC has once again taken on an extremely serious issue that should be on the front page of every newspaper across the world. There are some other countries(Russia,Denmark,France and Japan) that have given some attention to this incredibly serious topic.
However the main stream media as a whole will not touch this topic, and often vilify those that ask for real answers and call them conspiracy nuts.
These people include victims families,first responders, military officials, ex-intelligence officers, architects and engineers, physicists, chemists, pilots, politicians,demolition experts and a large majority of the public.
Are all of these people nuts? We are talking about millions of people across North America. These professionals have done there homework, the scientific evidence is undeniable, hard science does not lie. One can not argue the discovery of nano-thermite in the dust of all three buildings, it should not be there. It has one purpose to demolish and that is it.
The evidence of the thermite is peer reviewed and published in scientific journals, it is completely legitimate. So if I know about it, all mainstream media outlets and heads of state must be aware. Then why no story on the news no new investigation. One would assume that any reporter or editor or TV executive would jump at the chance to break this story. There must be a media blanket in the U.S. because all of these people are correct it was an inside job, there is no other explanation.
This movement, if you want to call it that seems to be growing to the point where something has to be done, this is not your typical conspiracy about Elvis or Alie ans.
Oddly enough I do not consider myself a conspiracy theorist, treason was committed people were murdered, countless others dead, including Canadian soldiers, fighting a war on terror that is fictitious, based on the 9/11 lie. We were lied too! A new Pearl Harbor was needed by the Neo-Conservatives (Bush,Chaney,Rummy,Wolfawitz ect.) to advance there agenda of controlling oil. Every major military base in Afghanistan is situated strategically along the oil pipeline.
Think about this, the current White House administration has to be aware of all the evidence that punches holes in the official version, especially the nano-thermite. Even members of the 9/11 commission said it was set up to fail. They stated they were lied to by the FAA the White House and the Pentagon, they even pondered pursuing legal action. So by not taking action against those responsible does that mean Obama is guilty of treason.
In a speech on June 4th 2009 in Egypt Obama defended the official version stating "These are not opinions to be debated, these are facts to be dealt with" Obama promised transparency in his administration.In my opinion that is not transparency that is complicity with the former administrations lies. Which is treason.

Andrew  Oshawa — Posted on April 10, 2010 12:27 AM

For the seemingly well-informed KM - I have looked into every single aspect of the 9/11 event. There is simply too much information that cannnot be addressed via this medium.

But I have to mention that I questioned 9/11 from the getgo when those THREE bldgs fell into pulverized dust and pieces of steel. Two Steel-framed bldgs at 110 storeys being brought down by aluminum riveted plane fuselages filled with hydro-carbon fuel. Ensuing fires on FOUR floors that caused collapses into basements in 10 seconds? Where is your common sense?

Every single occurence - before, during, and after the entire event defies common sense, defies the laws of physics, defies the laws of science. There is no precedent in such an APPARENT Intelligence AND Air-force AND Military multiple failures in the United States!

Indeed, believing that 9/11 took place exactly the way the Government says it did is comparable to unquestioned belief that God created the world in six days and it is, in biblical years, about 6,000 years old.

You can believe whatever you have been conditioned to believe. Bill Maher is an American TV talk show host of the dime a dozen type. They are all paid handsomely to entertain us to death and into a state of continuous stupor. What are his credentials? Why don't you quote David Ray Griffin? Our own Barrie Zwicker? Or Prof of physics, Steven Jones? Or Richard Gage? By quoting him, you are undoubtedly aware that US TV Networks embrace the Official story and only seem to question the sanity of those that dare to challenge it.

You probably don't grasp the notion that by paying Cable TV $40.00 per month or buying the Globe and Mail for a dollar we do not ensure mass medias' survival. Corporations pay millions for a 30 second commercial. Whoever pays the piper calls the tune. Five major ones control US media and will control what they say and what they question and what they tell us. 9/11 is taboo. Questioning it is heresy and blasphemy. Demonise the "crazies" to hell. Run them out of town.

The official story HAS TO STAND. No matter what. If it does not eventually stand up to long term scrutiny can you predict what will happen? This will:

Every political structure on this planet that have some semblance of one, will lose their cloak of respectabilty. The citizens of the US will rise up against the Establishment and question its' relevance. Whatever image that the US left will be forever tarnished. They will joins the rank of the "bad guys" they are now destroying in their War OF Terror for profit and greed.

Robert  Man — Posted on March 26, 2010 04:47 PM

@KM

"Passenger jets don't slam into buildings everyday"

Nor THREE BUILDINGS are knocked down by TWO PLanes everyday.


Those building were high security (CCTV Cameras, Dogs ETC). Without the planes the NEOCONS couldn't blame ALQEADA alone, since they don't have access to the building's extructure. Remember the INFAMOUS 9-11 Commission NEVER looked for EXPLOSIVES.


I wonder if you are a shill or just a fool.

Joseph Perez  — Posted on March 26, 2010 02:58 PM

Pre-disposed to believe everything the American government says? Hardly the case with me Robert and probably not with many others (Bill Maher, international media etc). My position is based on the rational belief that such a vast and risky conspiracy was unnecessary with respect to the alleged motives behind it. As I said before, the US government could have obtained the public will for war through much more simpler means. (Were the bombing in Spain and Britain government conspiracies as well?) It simply defies common sense. And frankly it frightens me that there are people in our society who are prepared to believe such nonsense. Of course when something of this magnitude happens there will be things we may take years to figure out as it is not something we can replicate or analyse easily. Passenger jets don't slam into buildings everyday. A perusal of the conspiracy de-bunking websites makes it clear however, that the so-called truthers have taken quotes out of context and misrepresented techinical aspects of this catastrophe. There is a reason you and your ilk are a marginalized minority and it's not because the rest of us are blind sheep.

Finally, it amazes me how from the comfort of your living room Lazy-Boy chair you can see the 'truth' behind it all, wow, you truly are a giant among us...excuse me while slip back into my stupor.

KM  Ottawa — Posted on March 25, 2010 01:52 PM

Another take on the last comment:

Sadly, those who believe the Official story were pre-disposed and conditioned to do so and nothing will ever change their minds. Not even when the evidence was there to see and hear on TV. That the Official LIE is filled with holes and riddled with inconsistencies. They will never awake from their stupor.

If I am called a Truther, I will wear it like a Badge of Honour, may we call the supporters of the Official Lie...Liars?

Jus' wondering...

Robert  Man — Posted on March 24, 2010 09:45 PM

To Francis Simon: ignore the condescending comments of the delusional truthers on this site. Simply googling 'debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories' will lead you to numerous articles that address the allegations made here by people who seem to think they are such geniuses they can unravel a conspiracy while us poor credulous fools get suckered in by a compliant media and government. Sadly, those who believe this was a Bush conspiracy were pre-disposed to do so and nothing will change their minds.

KM  Ottawa — Posted on March 20, 2010 09:48 AM

Follow the money and you'll find out who's behind it, who has the most to gain?

This is an agenda of an elite and very intelligent group of people. What ever you can think of, they've already thought about it and prepared for it. As history shows us humans are capable of anything.

People think that this was the work of the Bush administration and them only. It goes much deeper than just them and someone else is pulling the strings.

INSIGHT  — Posted on March 14, 2010 07:02 AM

The simple facts of temperatures:

Mr Simon - you have a penchant for missing the message. If you were to peruse this entire thread, you may find an answer.

Take a look at the following:


1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical STRUCTURAL steel
~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
Diffuse flames burn far cooler.(In this case the hydrocarbon is AVIATION FUEL)
Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler...

The SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE HERE IS the 1233 degree difference(2750 minus 1517) between the steel "melting" at the WTC and ability of aviation fuel to only achieve a maximum temp of 1517. Aviation fuel IS a hydrocarbon which is high-grade kerosene which couldn't have even warped the WTC steel.

The fires in the towers were diffused -- well below 800ºC.
Their dark smoke showed they were oxygen-starved -- particularly in the South Tower.

And another thing - I mentioned in another post to look at CONSTRUCTION vs DESTRUCTION. The 47 CORE CENTRAL COLUMNS at the WTC 1 and 2 are treated as though they DID NOT EXIST in an A&E documentary which was made a mere 3 months or so after 9/11. It simply parroted the Official "STORY" that there was this TEN SECOND "pancake collapse" and the computer generated segment on the collapse simply showed one floor and its' girders falling on the other...all 110 of them - with no resistence from an absent CORE! Again - IN TEN SECONDS!!

And WTC 7 - the smoking gun of 9/11. Do some research before you "speak". Google it.

Google: Prof Stephen Jones and look into the subject of Thermite (or thermate) Super and nano.

Look at 911 - Mysteries: Demolitions (view or buy from the internet)

And to read what CRIMINALS (your Hero????) like Cheney - and Rumsfeld, Bush Jr and Sr et al, are all capable of:

Read The War on Truth, 9/11,Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism.- by Nafeez Ahmed(British-born author)
The Shock Doctrine and The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein (Canadian author)

Robert  Man — Posted on February 16, 2010 05:41 PM

I would like to thank the CBC for having the class and professionalism it takes to report on the 9/11 cover up with the legitimacy it deserves. This serious issue seems to be gaining acceptance in main stream media around the world, with the exception of the United States. The amount of inconsistency with the official report is damming.
All one has to do is watch the video of WTC7 coming down, there is only one conclusion to draw, controlled demolition.
In my opinion NORAD not responding is the most incriminating evidence. How does the world's most guarded airspace become penetrated for one and a half hour's with out any fighter response, commercial airliner's disappearing from radar for long periods of time then reaper, not one of the pilot's sending a distress call on any of the hijacked planes. It's just to thin for me to beleave.
I ask one question what happens if the truth does come out, and I believe it will for this no JFK side show this is much larger, how does one go about charging a former president and other high ranking officials?
If 9/11 was a lie then that mean's the War on Terror is fictitious.
In retrospective part of me wishes I had never seen 9/11 documentaries or researched it online. It leaves me feeling uneasy about the world, much like I felt that day. I do not consider myself a conspiracy theorist, 9/11 is not theory to me it's fact, we were lied to.

Andrew  Oshawa — Posted on February 16, 2010 04:48 PM

I'm not concerned with the "how", but the "who" and "why". The "who" is the elephant in the room no one speaks of, the "why" is obvious when you can see the "who". And it takes far fewer people to carry something like 9/11 out that most think.

Robert Drake  — Posted on February 12, 2010 07:35 PM

Robert from. Man.
What does this have to do with where I live or what my people went through.Why not mention what I went through? Why I would have in fact cared enough to react the way I did on that day. The capitalistic ideals that keep us confined on the reserves which we call home,without have the protection of human rights guaranteed to everyone,excepts Indians as defined in the Indian act. How many of us who were taken from our home and institutionalized for the crime of being from a broken family where my mother couild not feed us,and our ways of living were long taken from us,fishingetc,etc. Things differ now that we can fish and feed our own families.
I am entitled to sue the feds for placing me in the residential school system,as I rejected the deal..With all of those things I could have done somethin else on 9/11/01 instead of saving thousands from being crushed. Anger only goes so far,but the willingness to help out your fellow MAN when they need vital help..I knew the towers were collapsing and why.I was right..Hindsite is 20/20 and all these years later you are blind..You cant say why the towers collapsed,because you dont work with steel. There is nothing anyone can do about ignorance.as you have an opinon about me from where I live..Do you think I was involved in the attacks? You think maybe this is a training ground for terrorist? Do I expect people to be protesting out my door saying 911 was an inside job sent over by Robert from Man?.It wont happen.The people around here already know. Robert you stepped over the line. But I would like to see if you can tell me why the towers fell.,forget that crap about an inside job,history and ignorance.

Francis Simon  Elsipogtog — Posted on February 12, 2010 11:24 AM

Simple Simon from his Micmac reserve in New Brunswick is thanking Mr Perez for suggesting he is Dick Cheney as though Cheney is someone he can emulate! How ironic. It was the invaders of this continent, who think like Cheney , who were ultimately responsible for placing your people in the positions they are now. North American apartheid if you will...What they did THEN manifests itself in native living conditions NOW on the entire continent.

When a defeated people are subjected to conditions for centuries under conditions imposed by invaders turned oppressors they sometimes will relinquish everything. It began with their land and has now ended with their dignity.

How does it relate to this topic? It is very simple. The United States and ENGLAND with a little help from their CIA funded Al Qaeda friends and The Mossad arranged the so-called "terrorist attack". You see this is not 1492 when wars of conquest/invasion were launched and the invaders did not have to explain or justify their actions to anyone. Just the king or queen had to finance it.

The Middle East has been eyed as an area to control for both its resources and geo-political reasons. US/UK hegemony and domination.(last count-12 US military bases in Iraq alone)

In the 20th and 21st centuries public opinion/public support is SOMETIMES sought. The Pearl Harbour attack in Dec 1941, The Gulf of Tonkin incident AND the CRIMINAL, CAPITALIST driven act of 9/11 would have demanded public support DRIVEN BY public rage and indignation. And they all did.

Without 9/11 GW Bush couldn't have possibly gone on TV and cite the above stated reasons for launching two wars of plunder and profit..

Dick Cheney, GW Bush et al are War Criminals and War Profiteers. For what they did as perpeTRA(I)TORS to help facilitate the TREASONOUS act of 9/11 they should pay the ultimate price. So if anyone wants to be Dick Cheney - sure. You can acquire his Halliburton billions and pay for his crimes against humanity. After all, sociopathic criminals like him think money buys anything.

Instead of them on trial we see the usual(suspects) patsies taking the fall. Much like this KSM "Mastermind of 9/11" (when exactly did this change from Bin Laden AND where is the ever vigilant WESTERN MEDIA?) character? After Gitmo,if you touch this guy you may actually light up...I would confess to anything after 7 years in Americas' gulag I tell ya...

Robert  Man — Posted on February 11, 2010 02:16 PM

Bravo for shining the light!! It makes me proud to be Canadian. Something was left out...the I-Beams. Why were they all cut at sharp angles? Under what circumstances do we normally see this?
Thank you.
Now if a story on Chemtrails would be next I would be rather thrilled!!

chrishowred  montreal — Posted on February 10, 2010 11:09 PM

New Yorkers want an REAL INVESTIGATION, one that AT LEAST look for EXPLOSIVES which they NEVER DID.

Woooops!

We don't need " Trial" of TORTURED (Patsies) people. that's ilegal under US and International law.

Mr.Simon who are you DICK CHENEY?

Mr. Perz
No I am not Dick Cheney,But thank you for that compliment. Why would they look for explosives when they know why it fell..There were no blasts that would have been echoing down the streets. No Flashes and they actually knew it was coming down.
But if you want to mention trial of torture,then think about admissible evidence.That is what would be saved for trial,to at least not taint the evidence so there would be a just verdict. Are you saying KSM is innocent and should be released?

Anonymous  — Posted on February 10, 2010 01:32 PM

Mr.Simon
What is obvious about the fall of the towers? How did WTC 7 collapse at almost free fall speed when the only problem they had was fires in the center floors of the building. How did the walls at either end of the building come down together from the start to the finish.
You sound very much like a gov't troll. Do some research,
you really need it.

Ken Jack  — Posted on February 10, 2010 01:22 AM


New Yorkers want an REAL INVESTIGATION, one that AT LEAST look for EXPLOSIVES which they NEVER DID.

Woooops!

We don't need " Trial" of TORTURED (Patsies) people. that's ilegal under US and International law.

Mr.Simon who are you DICK CHENEY?

Joseph Perez  US — Posted on February 9, 2010 12:20 PM

Mr Perez..What cover up? There was nothing to cover up. It was so obvious why the towers fell,The question was who,what,when where and why the attack happened.There was an investigation,they have a person charged,convicted and sentenced who wanted to die a a martyr for his cause,which was denied. KSM and a few more have admitted in a place where they had a chance to declare their innocence. But they do state they do it..They will be brought to justice ,somehow,But they are entitled to a fair trial.So maybe that is why many people are suspicious. Get over it and wait for the trial.

Francis Simon  Elsipogtog — Posted on February 8, 2010 03:06 PM

The original 9/11 Commission took almost a year to be appointed by a reluctant and stonewalling Bush Administration. Four 9/11 victims' widows dubbed "The Jersey Girls" were instrumental in getting an investigation going. Bush first appointed Henry Kissinger - an actual, internationally verified WAR CRIMINAL to "investigate" what was clearly a CRIMINAL act, which was, in and of itself, committed by elements within his own sitting adminstration, military and Intel services!

It was the huge public outcry that saw Thomas Keane(a Bush insider anyway)heading an ineffective, impotent, no teeth 9/11 (C)ommission. SOME of its' independent minds condemned the final (white-washed red-herring report.)

It would be instructive to note, John P - that Americans who voted overwhelmingly for the "change we can believe in" had the "audacity to hope" that the new President perhaps would order a new and truly independent investigation into 9/11. His new slogan has been that "we should be looking forward - not backward".

O-Blah-ma has instead, with events in Haiti, appointed no less than another two internationally known War Criminals to head the US relief effort. They are urging us to send money in lieu of supplies...

Who are they aiding?

Robert  Man — Posted on February 8, 2010 10:27 AM


Why did 80000 (Verified) New Yorkers couldn't get the new INVESTIGATION they wanted, if BY LAW only 30K Signatures are required?

Stop the COVER UP!

John Perez  US — Posted on February 6, 2010 06:06 PM

Robert from Man.. Well for the explaination.I already mentioned it. As for Insurance.I would have to think that,yes even people like Mr Silverstein would indeed have to buy Insurance to get a loan to buy the property.
Building 7 fell because of a terror attack,why shouldnt he put in a claim. The attack was done by Islamic fundamenatists trying to create more damage then what happened. The plane being retaken by the passengers and many people were saved from being crushed. I doubt that was part of the plot. So why shouldnt he get damages.
This has nothing to do with Iraq,never did..But there was going to be an invasion with all the times Saddam Hussein would moved his military aggressivly,than would pull back from Kuait. If the ones you say are capable of pulling off this so called "false flag" couldnt they have put a chemical processing plant(mobile)or nuclear weapon so that their troops would find them? Or did they use panic and fear as Gage is doing to sell his DVDs?
I have never seen a structure burn for 8 hours without being extinguish stand,it always has collapsed.

Francis Simon  Elsipogtog — Posted on February 4, 2010 02:01 PM

Mr Perez..

Evidence why would I have to bring evidence.when I am making a comment about ppl who make accusations yet never have an explaination of why the towers collapsed and that it was not an inside job.
Why wouldnt WTC7 not fall,after burning for that long without any water pressure to extinguish the fire because of the broken water mains.The floor spans were long and after being hit the columns had the insulation knocked off,by the impact of the towers. But the fire that raged for hours as the support columns to come down.prior to the collapse of 7,that could have been what some heard noises that sounded like explosions.Thermal expansion has an adverse affect on steel.Read the report it explains that building professionals should become aware of the effects of Steel due to fire. All buildings are built differently today.Blacksmiths have used fire to weaken steel to make product,gunsmiths use heat to anneal steel to drill into steel similar to the steel used in the WTC complex. Why is it not possible for some to see that it was a plan by people living in a country that would have to fix their own rifles or have a blacksmith?
Look at the events , the burning jet fuel that ignites plastic computers,paper,desks ,paint while at that instant it splashes down the elevator shafts causing a blast in the lobby,similar to a rifle firing only a blank..They wanted maybe to have the towers collpase on the media,first responders and city exec. and for it to collapse on the other buildings. That plan may have not worked as it only created anger,the terror is only in many TRUTHERS..Why did the NYPD have the media and everyone away from the towers,why did Chief Nigro of the FDNY have his crew pull back from WTC7?After 2 other towers came down due to reasons they were aware of.
As for the the owner of the complex,would he have any say in anything that happened. why he would mention pull it I would only think it would be related to Fire operations,not demo.
If I write a book.I am telling you they would make a movie out of it. There are events that many were and still are not privy to. As for Gage and his questions.He really should stay away from building steel framed buildings.
There were many FDNY,NYPD and PAFD who gave their lives trying to evac people from the towers,even when they knew ther lives were at risk.They deserve respect as well as their survivors. They do not have to be remembered for working for a Govt that would do this to start a war.Many have forgotten the bravery.

Francis Simon  elsipogtog — Posted on February 4, 2010 01:39 PM

Mr Perez..

Evidence why would I have to bring evidence.when I am making a comment about ppl who make accusations yet never have an explaination of why the towers collapsed and that it was not an inside job.
Why wouldnt WTC7 not fall,after burning for that long without any water pressure to extinguish the fire because of the broken water mains.The floor spans were long and after being hit the columns had the insulation knocked off,by the impact of the towers. But the fire that raged for hours as the support columns to come down.proior to the collapse of 7,that could have been what some heard noises that sounded like explosions.Thermal expansion has an adverse affect on steel.Read the report it explains that building professionals should become aware of the effects of Steel due to fire. All buildings are built differently today.Blacksmiths have used fire to weaken steel to make product,gunsmiths use heat to anneal steel to drill into steel similar to the steel used in the WTC complex. Why is it not possible for some to see that it was a plan by people living in a country that would have to fix their own rifles or have a blacksmith?
Look at the events , the burning jet fuel that ignites plastic computers,paper,desks ,paint while at that instant it spalshes down the elevator shafts causing a blast in the lobby,similar to a rifle firing only a blank..They wanted maybe to have the towers collpase on the media,first responders and city exec. and for it to collapse on the other buildings. That plan may have not worked as it only created anger,the terror is only in many TRUTHERS..Why did the NYPD have the media and everyone away from the towers,why did Chief Nigro of the FDNY have his crew pull back from WTC7?After 2 other towers came down due to reasons they were aware of.
As for the the owner of the complex,would he have any say in anything that happened. why he would mention pull it I would only think it would be related to Fire operations,not demo.
If I write a book.I am telling you they would make a movie out of it. There are events that many were and still are not privy to. As for Gage and his questions.He really should stay away from building steel framed buildings.
There were many FDNY,NYPD and PAFD who gave their lives trying to evac people from the towers,even when they knew ther lives were at risk.They deserve respect as well as their survivors. They do not have to be remembered for working for a Govt that would do this to start a war.Many have forgotten the bravery.

Anonymous  — Posted on February 4, 2010 01:34 PM

Mr. Simon:


9-11 WAS an Inside Job, Bin Laden AlCIAda and now KSM are patsies for blaming on the “Islamist Fundamentalist” of The Crime of the Century.

The US Government is the one that can’t and won’t explain how those towers felt in Particular BUILDING 7 which IMPLODED after only six-eight hours of fire.

The only thing folks like Gage and thousands more are asking is for a new and independent Investigation. The INFAMUS 9-11 commission was a cover up (according to even most of its own members).

When they show us: All of the Pentagon's tapes, the four Black boxes (three have been found but they denied it) and Now the video of the “Underwear bomber” inside the plane and when boarding, then we will stop asking questions.

NEXT time bring some evidence so you can make your point. Also you can make your own book, but I think I won’t buy it since you just attack the messenger and not the message.

John Perez  USA — Posted on February 3, 2010 07:25 PM

Okay Francis Simon - have your say:

Tell all the gullible people how the THREE buildings fell on 9/11. Be sure to tell us FIRST about their Construction. THEN explain the Destruction.

Eplain why the new leaseholder, Larry Silverstein took out a 3.6 billion dollar insurance policy approximately 3 months before the attack-SPECIFICALLY requesting that TERRORISM be included in the coverage. Do you know he claimed 7.2 million for the two bldgs asserting that each plane constituted a separate attack?

Did he make, and was paid a claim for the 3rd- Bldg 7? Any idea why? He DID say orders were given to "PULL" the building by him on suggestions by the NYFD, and "due to the terrible loss of life" a decision was made to PULL it (aka controlled demolition in that field). So- his Insurance Co perhaps TREATED it AS an INTENTIONAL ACT
(publicly stated by him), to bring down an otherwise REPAIRABLE building that was NOT hit by a plane. Insurance Companies do not respond to an INTENTIONAL act by an INSURED himself...like arson done by you to YOUR home.

Explain also what pretext Bush et al would have used to invade Afghanistan and Iraq in the absence of 9/11.

Explain the intricate ties between the CIA/NSA, successive Democratic and Republican Administrations AND Al Qaeda, the Pakistani ISI, The Taliban and other terrorist groups moreso when Daddy Bush was President.

I await your enlightening response.

Robert  Man — Posted on February 3, 2010 02:29 PM

I keep coming back and reading the comments trying to comprehend why so many doctors and so called educated ppl claiming the attacks on 9/11/01 was a "false flag operation"staged by the elite of the USA with the intent of invading Iraq,based on history,assumptions and paranoia. Books have been written,documentaries like "Loose Change" have fueled it all.Are the writers of these lacking something?
They can never explain why the towers fell or why should anyone stage an attack on their own.Why not just ask questions instead of making stupid accusations? Or is there an underlying reason for this: To Make money off of gullible ppl. I have heard of authors using PNAC and other events,but come short of telling the entire truth. Half truths? With the purpose of selling more books,if they told the entire truth they would look like the idiots they are to their fan base and be subjected to ridicule.
I await the time when we have Gage and company comes out this way,which they wont,I will tell them why the towers came down. Of course they already know this and will not place their marketing strats in jeoparady.
I am aware of events that others were never aware of. My friends and others around me heard these claims,way before any info was released. I know it was a terrorist attack by islamic fundamentalists on a jihad. When I see ppl who work for the CBC and other so called engineers claiming an inside job.I have to ask.With all that knowledge is there any room for wisdom or are you all suffering from PTSD from the terror attacks?

Francis Simon  Elsipogtog — Posted on February 3, 2010 09:22 AM

KM asks why stage such a complicated and risky event? Here is a major inkling on why: Note that the participants include the MEDIA and CORPORATIONS in the following excerpt:

"In September 2000 the neo-straussian think-tank, called The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), published the now infamous document entitled Rebuilding America’s Defences.

In the wake of September 11th 2001 this document has come under increased scrutiny and has been widely quoted by critics of the War on Terrorism, as pointing to establishment complicity in the attacks of 9/11. It called for a revolution within the US military establishment so the US would become “tommorow’s dominant force”. This may be a slow process however, without, “some catastrophic and catalysing event LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOUR.

The Project counts leaders of the US military, political, media, academic, and corporate, establishment amongst its subscribers. Including David Epstein, Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, Robert Kagan, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Francis Fukuyama, John R. Bolton, Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Steve Forbes, and so on."

There'd be web-sites supporting the "official story" KM. They would comprise very powerful interests who would be determined to surpress information and frustrate the attempts by people who are equally determined to expose multiple murders, massive fraud and susequent cover-up. A good example of classic disinformation is your own focus on "Jews not being at work on 9/11". Clearly unfounded comments (and there are many)like that detract from core issues and key questions. Many are cited in this very CBC piece.

Do yourself a favour, KM and focus on Bldg 7 at the WTC complex. It is the smoking gun of 9/11. It was 47 stories. It fell at 5.20 pm the same day. It was not hit by a plane. It fell symetrically down into its basement in 6.5 seconds. The third bldg in the history of steel frame construction to collapse due to fire!

Find old footage and look at it. It has ALL the characteristics of a controlled demolition.

Barry Jennings (google him) a worker at bldg 7, has testified that BEFORE bldg 1 and 2 fell - he was hearing explosions and seeing dead bodies INSIDE the bldg. He died mysteriously about a month before NIST was to deliver its' final report on that collapse. His EYEWITNESS accounts would have completely contradicted THAT "Official Story" as well. In addition, his family seemed to have disappeared.

When people espouse the theory that thousands of people had to involved, think of the Manhattan Project. Over 25,000 people were involved. It was shrouded in secrecy and the left hand did not know what the left hand was doing. For 9/11 - you didn't need thousands. Just some key people controlling the event, with many others not realising they were involved in the crime of the century. It WAS NOT a coincidence that military exercises were taking place on the eastern seaboard - including New York and Washington. Once "famous" question from a ATC controller was : "Is this REAL WORLD or EXERCISE?" - when informed that planes had been hijacked.

There is precedent in history for "false flag operations" by Gov'ts to bring about change and fast forward their objectives. US- Operation Northwoods(not executed)Gulf of Tonkin incident(staged). One million Vietnamese and 58,000 US soldiers dead.(What's 3,000 for these criminals on 9/11?)

The US entered WW2 after the Pearl Harbour attack.(Yes, IT DID happen!) The American public were of the view that "Hitler was a European problem" and were against the US getting involved. The US War Profiteers were all gung-ho from the git-go. Despite warnings from the Russians and its own Militarys' ability to break the Japanese code and listen in, somehow the US Defence/Military apparatus were STILL caught "off-guard" - much like 9/11!
Then think of Hitler himself and his desire to crush the communist movement in Germany. The Nazis themselves burnt Their OWN Reichstag bldg and then blamed the Communist Party. There are many others-but require too much detail.
Do yourself a favour and try and purge yourself of what the Corporate controlled made you ingest. I realise it will be difficult and you and millions like you who took it in from Day 1. Dig up - literally!(as they have been buried) some key pieces of film footage from NBC,ABC,CNN and FOX etal. They have never seen the light of day - except on some Internet sites. You'd hear stuff similar to like:

Dan Rather said that collapse was "reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down" (CNN's Aaron Brown and a Fox News reporter also made similar comments)

And Jamie McIntyre(ex-CNN) at the Pentagon: "There is no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere NEAR the Pentagon" (the emphasis on the word "near" was HIS) Now he is using semantics to suggest he meant something completely different. The idea that someone would emphasise that one object (a Boeing 757) is nowhere ANYWHERE NEAR another object(the Pentagon) is indicative of absence or distance! Nothing else.


Robert  Man — Posted on February 1, 2010 11:08 AM

Does the U.S government expect the rest of the world to believe that people who live in caves, have little or no education, and whose grasp of the English language can't be anything better than average, are capable of planning and executing the the most well thought of and clinically planned attack in modern times? Do they expect us to believe that these 'terrorists', are so well educated that they pulled off an attack, done with complete military precision, that the best agencies in America themselves could never replicate or have any knowledge of? Please.

The first question that should have been asked after the attacks was "how could these people outwit every major sector of US intelligence and defence, to the extent which made them seem completely obsolete?"

Does the U.S government expect people to believe that any organisation other than one of its own is capable of completing such a task? With their media propaganda machines they obviously do. But thank God, not all people listen to what the establishment preaches. 9/11 was inside job.

IA  — Posted on February 1, 2010 06:47 AM

To Robert: as you well know, there are numerous websites and sources that could 'bury' the numerous allegations and technical questions raised by the 'truthers'. Going through these questions point by point in this forum is hardly practical and wouldn't change your mind in any event. The point of my post is that the basic premise of the conspiracy theorists makes no sense. That is, in order to achieve what you believe the US gov't wanted to achieve, it was not at all necessary to stage such a complicated and risky event (risky in the sense that the more complicated an operation becomes the more it is liable to be discovered). To be accused of spewing vitriole by a 'truther' is laughable. In addition to the vitriole of the 'truthers' in this site, it seems to me that one of the first conspiracies to come out of 9/11 was an allegation that the Jews knew it was going to happen and didn't show up to work that day. Now that is vitriole.

KM  Ottawa — Posted on January 31, 2010 07:37 PM

The only thing i cant accept is most of the phone calls the people are calm,im sure if it was for real recordings people would be screaming for there lifes cause there life would soon be over

kenny  Canada — Posted on January 31, 2010 02:09 PM

To KM in Ottawa - We still await your challenge. You said "here goes" but nothing substantive followed except some ad hominem empty vitriole. Why don't you counter we "cultists" and quote from say... the official 9/11 Commission Report or from the semi-official Popular Mechanics magazine? What facts do you have to back up what you say? We, on the other hand, have tons of information we can bury you with.

Do yourself a big favour and do some real research into 9/11. You'd then be welcome to join the cult!

Robert  Man — Posted on January 28, 2010 06:07 PM

This discussion page has been enlightening to say the least. I had no idea so many of my fellow citizens were so paranoid and illogical. First of all, I don't expect to affect the opinions of the so-called 'truthers' as this group appears to be more and more like a cult-like element in our society. Having said that, I think those who promote such nonsense should be challenged. So here goes. In addition to the many technical details that could be brought in from the conspiracy de-bunking sources, the basic flaw I see in these conspiracy theories is as follows: the alleged motives of the Bush Administration (justifying war, infringing on rights) could have been attained with much less complicated means than staging the crashing of airplanes into large buildings in the centre of a metroplis. In a previous post I noted that one of key factors in the entry of United States into the First World War was the Zimmerman telegram. A simple message from the German government to the Mexican government promising Texas if Mexico joined the Germans helped push the Americans to war. If I were as cynical and paranoid as most of the posters here I would say that a Bush Administration-prepared document linking Saddam Hussein to a dirty bomb plot or some such thing would have brought the public sentiment to a war footing much easier than what happened on September 11. Secondly, do you people not see the that institutions that were attacked on 9/11 had great sympbolic value for those who have been officially charged with the crime? The twin towers and the Pentagon represented all that fanatical third world terrorists love to hate (capitalism, the nerve centre of the Evil Empire blah blah). If I were crazy enough to consider this was an inside job I could certainly think of more emotive targets, as far as public sentiments are concerned, than the Pentagon. But I forget myself, you 'truthers' are so just so smart you would reply that is all part of the elaborate conspiracy!

KM  Ottawa — Posted on January 26, 2010 03:57 PM

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.

Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know...

...If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed...

...No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed...

...It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent."

-John F Kennedy
New York City, 1961

It is my belief that the evil forces that caused this man's death are the same forces responsible for blowing up the World Trade Centre. I hope the CBC and the people in the media all over the world will bring some integrity back to journalism and expose what really happened on the morning of September 11, 2001.

at ease  Ontario — Posted on January 25, 2010 12:01 AM

Why did the governments (US, Israel, UK, Canada, ...?) perpetrate the 9/11 attacks? Ultimately, because they justify their action, their deceit and coercion, by appeal to the principles of collectivism and altruism, to the principle that the greater good of society and state is to be served by the sacrifice of the life and rights of the individual. Most politicians and professors know this, and most citizens subconsciously know this too, but do nothing to oppose it. That's why the 9/11 sacrifice and deceit continue.

What could be done? Understand consciously your rights as a sovereign individual (read Rand). Oppose the coercion and tyranny that governments are establishing. Expose their glaring evil in 9/11. Defend your rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Monart  Calgary — Posted on January 24, 2010 11:36 AM

Too bad they didn't cover the official aircraft speeds! Ft. 175 that hit the south tower was claimed "officially" to have hit at 510 knots! So at 22K ft would be capable of Mach 1.19? Pilots say even the Concord can't fly that fast at sea level! Check out Pilots for 9/11 truth. A couple interviewed even flown those actual aircraft!
The aircraft that hit the Pentagon initially created a 9x16 hole! Amazing for an aircraft that 125' wide by 44 feet tall!
And as far as the aircraft that crashed in PA. How many planes crash and have an 8 mile debris field? Even if it hit at 3 machs it would still be impossible!
God Bless Canada!

Jon B. Abrahamson  USA — Posted on January 24, 2010 01:42 AM

Here is a quote from famous Nazi, Hermann Goering, and I believe this is relevant to what happened on September 11, 2001, regarding inciting people to go to war:

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor schmuk on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

I believe the 911 attack was definitely an inside job, and they achieved their objective of starting their much-needed war-for-profit ~ and also passing their "Patriot Act" etc. the purpose of which was to take away the freedoms of the American people. A fascist state. I believe the Nazi mentality is still alive and well at some of the highest levels of US administration.

Francis Adamus  — Posted on January 13, 2010 03:34 PM

Great comment by Frank (BC). I am presently reading Shock Doctrine. I also have a really worn out copy of CIA Diary - Inside the Company by Philip Agee, a former CIA agent. It was first published in 1976. Great read also.

Through both overt and covert CIA operations tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands,(some exceeding 1 million) of innocents in some of the following countries have died in the last 50 years or so: Indonesia,Iran,Iraq,Chile,Argentina,Brazil,Guatemala,Uruguay,Nicaragua, El Salvador and various mineral laden African States to name a few...

What's to stop them from from executing 9/11, killing 3,000 innocents at home so they can implement some changes - both on the the domestic front and abroad? (Google PNAC)The Patriot Act was written BEFORE 9/11. They acquired the right of "Preemptive Strike"! War plans against Iraq was on Bushs' desk Jan 21st 2001! All they needed was Casus Belli.

And yes, the SHOCK DOCTRINE is working well. Another example came on Xmas Day on a NWA flight from Amsterdam to Detroit. Another Al Qaeda bomber foiled. Man, these guys are missing their CIA training,eh?

In 2001, imagine that 19 0f them, armed with box-cutters hijacked 4 planes, outwitted security AND the MIGHTIEST air defences on the planet! Expertly flew 3 of these planes, with military precision into 3 of their targets, and on Dec 25 2009 this "bomber" with exposive stuff in his underwear, wasn't smart enough to use the bathroom to set it off? How stupid are we, and how compliant is the Media?

Their ultimate aim, people, is to control us with a powerful weapon. It is called FEAR. But we have to be shocked first...

Robert  Man — Posted on January 13, 2010 03:33 PM

MACPADDEN and SINGH for the Record:

A 9/11 first responder has gone on the record to describe how he heard a demolition-style COUNTDOWN precede the collapse of WTC 7, eyewitness testimony that dovetails with other EMT’s and rescue personnel who were also told that Building 7 was going to be “brought down”.

That account was backed up by another ground zero rescue worker who went on the record with her full name. Volunteer EMT Indira Singh described to a radio show how she learned that WTC 7 was going to be “brought down” and the context was clear that it was to be deliberately demolished.

Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, KEVIN MCPADDEN traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby buildings for survivors.

Watch the video In Youtube:

“While we were on the right side, there was firefighters getting ready, they were bussing them back and forth, and a couple of vets that were there – they got the vibe that something was coming down,” said McPadden.

“We started asking questions, everybody started asking questions, and the next thing you know there was a Red Cross representative pacing back and forth in front of the crowd holding his hand over the radio – I couldn’t hear what it was saying but it was like pulsed – whatever the speech was on there it was pulsed – and that means to me most likely it was a countdown.”

“But he took his hand off at the last three seconds and he gave this heartfelt look – like just run for your life – because he didn’t want to bring it on his conscience – he didn’t want to go to his grave with that – and then we had a couple of seconds to put our heads together,” said McPadden.

Joseph Perez  USA — Posted on January 13, 2010 12:38 PM

I have read and have copies of all the books that were written about 9/11. I have seen all the documentaries. I have seen all the videos. I'm a reasonably well educated person. I belong to the Architects and Engineers for Truth. I believe. I believe Bush is not a very bright person, pathetically naive and was taken advantage of by Cheney, and others in the CIA and FBI. I believe there was involvement of the Saudis, certain people from Yemen who did a lot of the dirty work with the connivance of businesses such as the Carlyle Group who needed a war to make themselves rich. Check out that Group. If you want the real truth, check out John P. O'Neill in Wikipedia to get his background then do a Google search on "Who killed John O'Neill." This should bring you to one of the most cheaply made videos you will ever see, but it has such a ring of truth in it that you will wonder why you never thought of it yourself. Take an hour and 40 minutes to learn just how devious the American Government can be. Read Naomi Klein's book "The Shock Doctrine" if you don't believe it can happen.

Frank  BC — Posted on January 12, 2010 03:27 AM

What a fascinating story! It appears clear that we went to war based on a lot of lies, and a "false flag" operation initiated by the contrived and controlled demolition of WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7. Once you examine the facts it becomes so obvious that these buildings were destroyed from within, with complicity from the Bush administration. In any criminal investigation the first question asked is "who benefitted from this?" Where is the real investigation into 911? Why did they destroy, distort and hide all the evidence? Who really benefitted from this disaster? Just follow the money.
The most disgusting thing I have witnessed in my entire life was the spectacle of the richest and most powerful nations utterly destroying some of the poorest and most destitute countries on Earth. What corruption lies behind this shame? Please keep asking the questions. You folks at Fifth Estate are wonderful!

Dr. Hamid Mumin  — Posted on January 11, 2010 11:53 PM

A sister program to the Fifth Estate, the Passionate Eye has, in the recent past, featured a worker at Bldg 7 - which was the 3rd bldg to fall on 9/11. His name WAS Barry Jennings. He died mysteriously in the summer of 2008. His family seemed to have since disappeared. He has tesfified in the past to the fact that there were explosions and dead bodies at Bldg 7 even BEFORE WTC 1 and 2 collapsed. He found half-eaten breakfasts and cups of still-hot coffee which indicated everyone had left in a big hurry. For officials to claim that falling debris from WTC 1 and 2 started fires and caused explosions is misleading in the extreme.

He died just before N.I.S.T. was to deliver its' final report on the collapse - which, not unexpectedly, largely supports the Official version.

Another kind of "pre-emptive strike", perhaps?

Robert  Man — Posted on January 5, 2010 04:25 PM

I was on strike the day of 911 & Isuspected govt.
involvement from day 1. I don't care about the buildings falling in freefall BUT just show me the
picture of the airplane going into the pentagon.As
everyone knows that area has more cameras than anyplace in the world & YET there are no pictures of it (BULLPUCKY). If it was done as the govt. said it did
then they would release those pictures as it would prove
their case.The only way to prove to me is SHOW THE
PENTAGON STRIKE otherwise case closed. The GOVT. WAS
INVOLVED.

Anonymous  — Posted on January 5, 2010 11:34 AM

Thanks to the CBC for airing as much as they did. 9/11 was a complex series of events and not easily covered in so brief a time.

Consider: at one point it is said by the narrator that as much as 100 Tons of thermite would be required to bring down one of towers (which is absurdly too high), and yet the backers of the 'official' story believe that zero thermite was required for each of the 3 towers to collapse completely and at nearly free-fall acceleration.

Also, good to hear the narrator state that N.I.S.T. admits they never tested for any explosives or incendiaries, so how can the use of thermite/thermate/nano-thermite be officially denied?

Jake Talbot  NC — Posted on January 5, 2010 03:11 AM

It is encouraging to see the number of comments applauding the CBC for finally addressing this issue. Well done. It is about time.

If one takes the time to read through the 300-plus comments, one will find that there is very little repetition of arguments and facts. We are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. There is such a growing wealth of evidence that points, without doubt, to an inside job.

Every month there is new information that corroborates and substantiates what many people are slowly becoming to realize and to accept: that 9-11 was pulled off by powerful international forces working in cooperation with elements both inside and outside the United States.

The progress of exposing this fraud is slow, but it is unstoppable. The people deserve to know what really happened. The people are now demanding it. The people will find out.

The media has been derelict of duty. They missed the biggest story of the decade. They were fed a lie and they believed it and they regurgitated it for the rest of us to chew on. Now the media is being called to task. They failed us. The media in the western hemisphere failed us in our darkest hour.

The Fifth Estate has returned some credibility to their profession. Thankyou. Thankyou for doing your job and addressing this issue. Please follow-up on it and ask further questions as your one-hour documentary only just skimmed the surface of the mountains of data on this subject.

Good Luck. Happy digging. Peace be with you.

Stephen Badhwar  — Posted on December 31, 2009 06:37 PM

iran will be attacked on January 15th get ready

iran  THAILAND — Posted on December 31, 2009 07:11 AM

I am glad that the CBC covered the topic but it did a very poor job. All media in Canada, and most parts of the world are controlled by the illuminati. They run the show.

If you want real news and not Tiger Woods or Michael Jackson you have to listen to Bob Chapman of the International Forcaster, or Alex Jones.

We are loosing our country, and its time to show the government who is in charge. That is why Canadians want to have the right to have guns, just incase.

The US dollar will fall apart soon, and gold will surge. The entire middle class will get wiped out. It will get out of controll and I hope our government does not want to send in our troops to "keep the peace", it will be mandess!!

Sunny Gill  — Posted on December 29, 2009 02:33 AM

Interesting documentary but falls short of some of the conspiracy theorists claims. It is hard to tell which one is the most "out there" but the one where the planes were just holograms and that the passengers are in hiding ranks way up there for me. What next!? Perhaps the WTC towers were just holograms and someone just turned the lights out perhaps!

Gary  Manitoba — Posted on December 27, 2009 09:45 PM

I see the Passionate Eye is airing a 9/11 conspiracy theory 'documentary' this week. While I think that it is newsworthy that so many people believe in this nonsense, I hope this is not some silly tabloid fare that will only add to the paranoid delusions of the 'truthers'.The CBC needs to make a choice, is it the National Enquirer or the national broadcaster?

KM  Ottawa — Posted on December 27, 2009 08:54 AM

If you look at the pictures of the twin towers when all that is left is the rubble of the main floor you can see the steal sticking up where it has been cut off by blow torch to be hauled away as quickly as possible.
Now if you look at those cut pieces of steal you will notice a lot of them are cut on 45 deg. angles with perfectly straight cuts, ok ok cut enough steal for a living you will cut nice and straight but why the hell would you spend the time to cut on a 45 deg. angle wasting time, oxygen and acetylene that your boss is paying for.
Those cuts where never made with oxygen and acetylene to start with.
Those cuts where made with thermite.

Don Buddy  Vancouver — Posted on December 24, 2009 07:18 AM

Overall I am disappointed in the program since so much startling evidence was completely left out. No mention of the molten steel found in the sub basement weeks later and confirmed by many workers. Also no mention of the testimony of dozens of firefighters first responders and even reporters about hearing explosions going off repeatedly. However the producers did a grave miservice by not showing more of David Ray Griffin's interview. Especially his revelation that the FBI has NOW admitted that there were no cell phone (or seatback phone calls)from the American Airlines 757 which did not have seat phones. This would have been a major climax of the show but like every other media in North America this fact has been suppressed. At least The Fifth Estate did something on 9/11 truth but it was a very soft-boiled effort and it could have been absolutely shocking if it showed more hard evidence which is readily available.

Robert Leclaire  Toronto — Posted on December 23, 2009 09:53 PM

Once I accepted the overwhelming evidence that explosives were planted in the Twin Towers and WTC-7, I began research on the motive for such a desperate False Flag operation inside the US.

Even Alan Greenspan said the wars are all about oil. But the intricate details combined with the risk of "losing" US oil hegemony became clearly apparent. \

Bangsters, backed by the neo-cons needed an urgent reason to jump-start the race for Empire by engineering a spectacular False Flag attack inside the US. But Bangsters and neo-cons has seperate agenda. The banngsters would use 9/11 to accelerate the New World Order

First, the Federal Reserve's 90 year pyramid scheme of debt-based US economy based on the 9/1 fractional reserve ratio of creating 9 phoney dollars from every one dollar deposited.(counterfeiting by another name) was predictably coming to an end. Simply put: The ratio of global money supply to assets (true wealth) is beginning to exceed the 9/1 fractional reserve retio - a shell-game of artificial wealth designed to enrich the elite for most of the past 100 years. In fact, year 2012 will be the 100 anniversary of the illegal Federal Reserve System of 1913.

After WWII the Bangsters began recuiting China, Asia and India to replace a gradually failing US pyramid scheme with a new one in the East that would enrich the bangster elite for another 100 years by dumping the US dollar as the world's reserve currency in favor of the Euro and/or the Chinese Yuan.

As beneficiaries, corporations have long been an ally of global bangster manipulations of wealth and capital. It's somtimes difficult to tell where the coporations end and the bangsters begin. But the small famalial cabal of bangster elite have no real desire to take in a tribal "corpoation" as family blood - not even Halliburton or Microsoft. Corporations are looked at as the "soldiers of fortune", (helpful idiots) never the ultimate and perpetual beneficiaries.

The neo-cons awakened to realise their bangster buddies were interested in wealth, not money - and not corporations. The bangster plan for a paradigm shift in the geography of wealth was beginning to work against the corporate instinct for tribal presevation -- a twisted vestige of "patriotism", perhaps.

The US invaded Iraq when Hussein stopped using the petro-dollar in favor of the Euro. Iran is still planning for the Euro. Venezuela and Argentina are next to rejecting the US dollar as tender for petrol.

The US invaded Afghanistan to control the distribution of oil and gas through the vast network of planned pipelines originating in the area of the Caspian basin and west Asia. Despite the vast construction of air bases and military presence in Asia (never discussed in the media), the US is lagging behind their promise to supply the EU with gas and oil via the troubled east-west "Nabucco" pipeline system. Meanwhile, China and India are taking control of their own energy needs by contracting with Russia, Turkmenistan and Iran. Pakistan currently has an agreement with Iran to supply their energy, and India is ready to pick up the option on that pipeline if the US military surge fails to "hurry-up" the delayed US pipeline construction from the Caspian down through Afghanistan and Pakistan to sea ports at Karachi and Gwadar. At some point the Iranian eastward pipeline will inevitably cross over or under the US southward pipeline - depending on who gets there first.

BOTTOM LINE: The West's (US/UK) hegemony of oil/gas is vital to the preservation of the DOLLAR as the world reserve currency. The neo-cons too frequently force the issue againt the interests of the bangsters who continue to own every nation that doesn't print their own currency. While the pyramid collapses in the West the tentacles of the global bangsters simply pull up stakes to give their Ponzi game a fresh start in the East regardless the ethnicity, skin color or language of the new corporate soldiers of fortune.

PULLING the PLUG on GRANDMA'S DOLLAR ...is at the discretion of the Bangsters so far. The US will gradually get flooded with US dollars as more banks ween off any single reserve currency.. The bangsters can make this forseeable transition to inflation either gradual and terrible or fast and catastrophic. Corporations have a short distance to travel to join the bangsters since years of corporate outsourcing has faded any sense of US sovereignty and even patriotic duty to country.

EMPORER HAS NO CLOTHES: 9/11 Could be a small taste of bigger things to come. Washington is the only place where conspiracy theories are never discussed. But when the Emporer struts, hardly anyone outside the beltway can see his clothes anymore. Everyone knows that "Congress is an Inside Job".

HSaive  — Posted on December 23, 2009 04:38 PM

I too believe that"9-11 was if not totally, then a very l;arge part of it was perpitrated by the U.S. government. And I have the additional thoughts, along what those brought up in the "Unofficial Story".
Had this attack been totally a "terrorist" attach as we have been told it was, then why such a low "body count"?
Yes, there was a pretty large body count, by our standards, but what do real 'terrorists' want? They want a body count that is going to make the "wesern' world pay for what they claim have been terro attacks on thier people.
So looking at eh Twin Towers, how would yo get a 'good body count'? Well first of all, you don't plan your attack that early in the morning, and second you don't hit your target that high up.
To get the body count and make the most damage possible, you make your attack mid morning, when you know your target is full to capacity. In doing that the body count would have been 50 to 60,000 souls.
Second, you aim your missles (the highjacked planes) a lot lower. Wher the planes hit, there was ample time to get a lot of people out and concidering what the target was, this was a low body count.
Hitting the towers lower down, say around the 20 or 30th floors, latter in the morning, would have trapped more than 50,000 people, the planes a littl more carefully placed and the towers could have been made to fall OVER, into the city, and not just down on thier own footprint.
So, had the attack been made by Bin Lauden he would have been looking for a huge body count and the most damage he could possily produce. This would have been done byu hitting the towers lower down, at a slightly different angle and been made to fall into the city, which would have raised the body coult to, what, 100,000 or more, in one strike and virtually destroyed down town Manhatten.
Secondly, there are two US Military bases within 3 to 5 minutes fo the towers, yet it took over an hour for them to deploy? Now, not even the US miltary is that sloppy, unless they were ordered to stay grounded.
And finally, one tidbit that has never been explained is that after the attacks, when US airspace was declared closed and no aircraft of any kind was allowed in the air, why was one single plane, carryinh Bin Lauduns family, allowed to leave the country?
NO, 9-11 was an "INSIDE" job carefuly planed by the US government and carried out by the "terrorists" for creditability.
One other thing I remember from the days right after the attack, wa a staement from Bin Laudin that the "colapse of the towers was just gravy, as that was not thier intention, all they wanted was to wake up the US government". Since toaht one time, I have never heard a thing about that statement, I wonder why?
That is the only way such an attack could have been planned and executed to make it look big, but still keep the loss of life and damage to a minimum.
The whole thing needs to be looked at fro the inside, where top secret plans are made and carried out.
My opinion anyway.

Tom H  — Posted on December 23, 2009 12:10 PM

I Just watched the Unofficial Story of the death of Joe Grozelle. I heard them say there was no water found in the lungs when they recovered the body. It is my understanding that this usually means the person was not breathing when they went into the water. How then can this be a suicide? I'm surprised this was not pointed out.

Cindy  Toronto — Posted on December 22, 2009 11:03 PM

I read more of the commentss to this program and I must state a very important note. There are Professors who keep statng that fire can not weaken the steel to a point when it will cause a collapse. Have they considered what will happen, if the continue on with their beleifs and the students build like the WTC complex were built. The structure would suffer the same fate.Read the final report,this will explain why and how it fell..There lacks an understanding of how steel reacts when heated by fire..It is strongly suggested that Structural engineers should become aware of this in the plannning and designing of buildins.
Think about the atomic structure of steel and how it is affected by heat,how rapidly it loses its integrity..Think of how the carbon Atom can not do its job to keep the steel from reaching a state of deformation where it weakens and breaks..

Francis Simon  Elsipogtog,nb — Posted on December 22, 2009 08:23 PM

GOOD job CBC to find a subject that we can ask are self the question about 9/11. Inside job or not? I my self believed that the American Government was in it; because there was so many events that happened for the pass 8 years when Bush was in power, that all the stuff he did, were just link altogether at the end of is term. Here a couples of exemple.


Afghanistan and Iraq, was plan since the beginning. This was just to make profit on oil. So the goverment can get what resource they need it. This is not the firts time that happened. This war was created pretty sure because Muslim were in the way of the US objectif to do list, And to keep american public mind of the war; this is were the media got involded. Reality tv show!!! This is a great tactic to use again your population. Keeping the minds of real life events. Just like Roman did with there Gladiator Game. Keeping there minded off on political affairs and prevent from rioting again there Government.

A seconde tactic is to scare the public and have controle on them. Remember the famous Anthrax.
Next thing u know poeple were lining up to buy supplies, food, first aid kit ,duck tape(silding window or door) event if that wouldnt do anything from the anthrax to enter your house. Also next thing you know, the stock exchange was raising. And then again, people were making profit on that.

Here an other exemple H1N1 how people were making profit on that; by scarying the pulic. I haven't taking a flu shot in my life and I bet many people haven't taking them also. They have say it would be an pandemic. Its been almost a year, and I have not saw too many poeple die yet. People die from flu every year.
So this was just and other event that the Gov did to keep the minded of poeple off the war and concentrate on keeping then self alive from the H1N1 and not worry what was happenning around them.

I give 2 out 5 for this documentary. it was really good. But the probleme is, u need to dig deeper. you just landing on the surface. This information u give me, I knew since Bush enter the war in Iraq. Now if you wanna make history and a great story by CBC. Its time for you guy too start pointing fingers and start playing the blame game.

P.S compare to CTV News and CBC, I always watch CBC. CTV NEWS is to much republican. To much on Harper side.

Patrick dutrisac  — Posted on December 21, 2009 02:08 PM


Confirm that 4 out of 5 comments so far are in favour of the truth movement.

How about CBC moderate a debate between the Richard Gage team and the NIST and FEMA engineers?

A good read by CBC journalists would be the book “Behind the Scene: Ground Zero” where firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi claim that they recovered three of the four black boxes from the remains of towers 1 and 2. The FBI has claimed that the black boxes were not recovered and the 9/11 Commission report indicates they were not found?

Another book I recommend is by Hal Sisson entitled “Modus Operandi 9/11”.

More good information is available on the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now website, particularly the memorandum of law filed with the Supreme Court of New York recently.

Dave Fodor  — Posted on December 19, 2009 11:46 PM

The posts on this subject (with the exception of a few sensible ones like James Osmar's)are mind-boggling. The delusions and hatred of those who believe these stupid conspiracy theories is only exceeded by delusions and hatred of the religious zealots who actually carried out the attacks.

KM  Ottawa — Posted on December 19, 2009 06:05 PM

Dear Bob, I believe I know the answer to your question to Richard Gage.
“If you’ve wired these buildings for controlled demolition, why would you need airplanes? You’ve got the bombs, why couldn’t you just blame that on the Iraqis and al Qaida?

Obviously the towers had stronger security systems after the bombing in ‘93 and unlimited access would only be possible with special authorization. Since MARVIN BUSH was working for WTC security at the time of 9.11, he might be implicated. This together with JEB BUSH as a founding member of PNAC, proposing a new Pearl Harbor as necessary to rebuild America's defenses, and the President GEORGE JR. ignoring the August 6, presidential briefing that stated Bin Laden determined to strike America, the pubic might just finally connect the dots and this would pose a threat to National Security.

A covert, false flag operation like 9.11 needs a plausible cover story and the horrific spectacle of passenger planes bursting into fireballs killing hundreds produces a deep emotional trauma in the minds of viewers worldwide. Only military operations don't leave anything to chance and would never actually use commercial passenger planes to hit a small target at high speed.

Demolitions expert and Gulf War veteran Major Doug Rokke states in his 9.11 presentation that only "military aircraft" could have punched through both sides of the south tower before providing a pyrotechnic display many times larger than possible with commercial jet fuel.

Try pausing those famous impact videos and you'll notice that the "plane" completely enters the building with no visible damage prior to the fireballs. Amazingly the pressurized wing fuel tanks managed to waltz through a cheese grater of steel beams and concrete floors before exploding a split second later out the far side of the tower.

Let's check with the engineering simulations already done.

Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center
J. Engrg. Mech. Volume 131, Issue 10, pp. 1066-1072 (October 2005)
Mohammed R. Karim1 and Michelle S. Hoo Fatt2

A numerical simulation of the aircraft impact into the exterior columns of the World Trade Center (WTC) was done using LS-DYNA. For simplification, the fuselage was modeled as a thin-walled cylinder, the wings were modeled as box beams with a fuel pocket, and the engines were represented as rigid cylinders. The exterior columns of the WTC were represented as box beams. Actual masses, material properties and dimensions of the Boeing 767 aircraft and the exterior columns of the WTC were used in this analysis... It was also found that a Boeing 767 traveling at top speed would not penetrate exterior columns of the WTC if the columns were thicker than 20 mm.

WHAT 20mm! Those exterior columns were easily DOUBLE that thickness. AND they had massive spandrel plates welded across them and several concrete floors that weren't even used in the simulation. So there you have it folks. Commercial planes did NOT hit the towers because they wouldn't have been able to penetrate the outer steel.
Hello HOLLYWOOD!

A double "shock and awe" was then provided by the -waterfront renovation without demolition permit - historic steel frame collapses to make way for NYC to regain the tallest building in the world status. Cue the MSM to repeat the pre-planned shock display several hundred times so that the emotional scar will last a lifetime and reach all corners of the world via satellite- prior to the US military "full spectrum dominance" and associated military bases required to "restore democracy" and secure energy resources in the Caspian Sea region.

This deep emotional trauma was essential to produce suggestibility in the minds of the general public, so that blame could be wrongly attributed to Osama bin Laden and 19 hijackers. The CIA dirty tricks handbook calls it, "TRAUMA BASED MIND CONTROL" courtesy of NASA research.

FBI Director Mueller finally conceded that in fact they had no hard evidence of any hijackers and Osama is no longer associated with the event. But the original legend lives on the minds of people who were traumatized nevertheless and the mainstream media perpetuate the official cover story until it can be published in school textbooks and taught to children as fact.

Collateral damage is simply part of every military strategy. The latest installment are the 30,000 additional troops being sent to Afghanistan to oversee the UNOCAL gas pipeline construction due to begin after the Taliban halted construction and destroyed heroin production. That's really why they had to go and why recent headlines boast record heroin production levels have been restored under the supervision of NATO.

It's all about MIND CONTROL  Vancouver — Posted on December 17, 2009 07:01 PM

ERROR CORRECTED FROM PREVIOUS POST

On November 30, 2007, in an interview published in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, the Corriere Della Sera, former Italian president Francesco Cossiga stated that the videos linking Osama bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks were produced in the Milan studios of one of Silvio Berlusconi's TV stations. As far as I know, that assertion was never disputed. It is therefore worth publicising it in view of the fact that most people across the world believe that bin Laden has confessed to being the author of the 9/11 attacks in these videos —just as a great number of people believe, still today, that Saddam Hussein was personnally involved in orchestrating the attacks.

Francesco Cossiga, who was successively Prime Minister of Italy (1979-1980), President of the Senate (1983-1985), President of the Republic (1985-1992) and Senator-for-life since 1992, is now 81 years old.

Wouldn't it be nice if The Fifth Estate paid him a visit in a follow-up program before the old gentleman dies?

Raymond   Montreal — Posted on December 17, 2009 11:00 AM

I would recommend watching the interview with David Ray Griffin (on the right side of the main web FE on The Unofficial Story).

Out of 15 allege phone calls from the 4 airplanes, actually 2 occurred, and Barbara Olson 2 phone calls didn't make it to her husband from Flight 77 towards the Pentagon. See this interview for more details.

CBC and Bob McKeown decided to keep this info from the main presentation, but this would have been the highlight of the night with Barbara CNN reporter's involvement and the fact that her husband was off course on two phone calls!

Still the most honest report to date of 9/11 on canadian national TV!

Vincent H. Desrosiers  Quebec — Posted on December 15, 2009 12:18 AM


Jesse Ventura's recent Program on 9-11 talks also about the Four "Missing" Black Boxes from the Planes.

It appears that all of them were recovered.. And Hiden..

It is on Youtube.

Thanks CBC keep on the good work!

Joseph Perez  — Posted on December 14, 2009 01:36 PM

Is is tragic for me to see how many of us are dancing to the tune played by master game players like "Professor" Dewdney and others. We are all slowly circling away from the heart of the truth, hypnotised by bad logic and inhuman ideas, blind to the real tragedy of 911.
In the meatime, thousands around the world, many Muslim, are also believing these falsehoods - fully! And this has caused them to initiate action against people, including murder by bombs or guns.
I am sad and dejected but also angry. The real justice for the thousands who died is to see the massive plan by Bin Laden et al,to start a religious war of the ages, culture against culture. A plan that clearly came from outside and is bearing fruit.
Dedwney and others only fan the flames, creating logical reasons in many more hatred and murder against "the west".
Like the walking dead who stay unburied, the reality and truth of what happened back then will eventually come back and hit home to those whose minds have turned away.
In the end, it would be healthy to "give your head a shake" and see clearly that, in this day and age, theories like physics911.net are untenable, impossible to perform in complete secrecy on such a massive scale for what would be a ludicrously small result!
There are people, small dedicated groups, on the other side of the world who WANT an all-out war of the ages based on a perverted religion and who are quite happy to see more and more internal discord and self-mutilation on our part and more and more hatred of the west in the general world.

I know Dewdney, basically retired, has written that he is deeply disillusioned with the university educational system and the quality of student culture. In general he turns away from Western culture (this is documented in his writings). As a "Muslim" for 30 years, he currently writes monthly articles to fellow Muslims here in London promoting anti-western views on news items with fierce logic!
According to Macleans: "In the fall of 2001, a coast-to-coast survey of Canadian imams found all but two insistent that there was no Muslim involvement in 9/11"

Destroy the credibility by the citizens in their governments to the roots and you have the start of anarchy. After that, whatever ideas survive will grow.

My point is that it is terribly sad to see more and more people around the world missing the heart of the truth of 911 with unhealthy thinking that only leads to fomented hatred of each other. Don't buy into the conspiracy-thriller junk-food mentality but bring your attention to helping turn around the thinking in our world towards clear truth. Only that sort of work can cure us and move people toward harmony. We need to minimize and sideline self-delusion about 911 and understand where these theories are originating from.

James Osmar  — Posted on December 13, 2009 03:08 PM

Bravo CBC and Fifth Estate, your are canadian heros, it is about time a tv programme show that the war on terror is a farce to push for the real agenda those criminals have, the new world order

Robert  — Posted on December 13, 2009 12:47 PM

Thanks Bob for having the courage to raise this subject off the cutting room floor. Hopefully Other CBC programs such as Radio One's The Current or The Sunday Edition will follow suit.

Though it looked at first like the 9-11 attacks were most likely the work of Osama bin Laden, research has proven that his video-taped confessions were in fact fabricated and planted.

There has never been an independent authentication of the famous December 2001 videotape purported to be bin Laden confessing to the attacks. Analysts point to five incongruities on the tape that suggest that it was fabricated. Bruce Lawrence, the leading scholar on the subject of Osama bin Laden, says that the tape is a fake.

Also, the BBC, the London Telegraph and the Guardian have reported that up to six of the 19 alleged hijackers have since been found alive and well and living elsewhere in the world.

Even the FBI says that they are unsure who carried out 9/11. The FBI Chief of Investigative Publicity, Rex Tomb, has stated on the record that the FBI has no solid evidence to link bin Laden with the terrorist attacks of 9/11. If you go to the FBI website and look at America’s Most Wanted page, Osama bin Laden’s profile has him wanted for the bombing of the USS Cole and several embassies in Africa, but not for 9/11.

FBI Director Robert Mueller admitted on April 19, 2002, that in their investigation, “We have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot.”

Moreover, 5 out of 10 commissioners of the 9/11 Commission have stated in the last few years that their work was hampered and obstructed by the Bush Administration and by the CIA.

The 9/11 Commission Report has been critiqued by many as being neither independent, nor impartial, nor thorough. The Commission was crippled right from the very beginning through lack of funding, lack of time, and lack of impartiality. The 571-page report is riddled with errors and omissions.

This supposedly thorough report didn’t even mention the fact that World Trade Center Building 7, a 47-story steel-framed skyscraper, disintegrated at 5:20 in the afternoon for no apparent reason. It was two blocks away from the twin towers and it was not even hit by an aircraft.

Since the 9/11 Commission Report is the only account of what supposedly happened that day, this brings the entire official story of 9/11 into question.

On September 23, 2001, during NBC TV’s Meet the Press, Secretary of State Colin Powell promised to publicly release a white paper proving that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were behind the events of 9/11. He assured listeners that the government was hard at work bringing this information forward.

This document was never produced. The invasion of Afghanistan went ahead anyway, despite the fact that the Taliban did agree to find and turn over bin Laden if they were presented with enough evidence to prove he was responsible for the crime of 9/11.

Back at home, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, who was charged with the task of figuring out why the towers fell, were not even allowed onto the site of Ground Zero to examine the building wreckage. 317,515 tonnes of metal from the three towers was shipped off to China as scrap metal. A grand total of 246 pieces of metal were saved for the record. There was no forensic analysis of the debris to figure out what really did cause them to disintegrate so rapidly and so completely. Here we have the biggest crime scene in recorded history and all the evidence is shipped to China before it can even be examined.

Something is very wrong here.

The official story of what happened that day has hundreds of holes, inconsistencies, and impossibilities. There are literally thousands of outstanding questions about the official theory of the events of 9/11 that the Bush Administration and the 9/11 Commission has either refused, or avoided answering.

It is possible that what we have been told may not be accurate in the least. It is our job as patriotic Canadians to ask these hard questions. We have to figure out who really did orchestrate and carry out the 9/11 operation.

Our troops in Afghanistan deserve to know. It is the least we can do for them.

Yours Respectfully,
Stephen Badhwar

Stephen Badhwar  Whitehorse — Posted on December 13, 2009 03:34 AM

Dear Mr. McKeown,
I previously commented on your excellent video interview with Najib Abboud of Weidlinger Associates, but none of his comments appeared in your documentary. The interview abruptly ends with him describing how debris from the North Tower "speared" the World Financial Center over 500 feet (150 meters) away. I fail to see how this illustrates a purely gravity-driven collapse initiated by impact and fire. Where are the voices of Mr. Abboud and Dr. Sunder of NIST explaining how they reconcile the extreme temperatures capable of melting steel and the presence of pyrotechnic material in the debris with their thermal and structural analyses? I would also like to hear them explain the free-fall motion of WTC 7. Your documentary has just begun to scratch the surface, so please continue with as many sequels as necessary. I suggest you interview Kevin Ryan, Dr. Steven Jones and Dr. Niels Harrit for your next chapter. Thanks.

Ron Brookman  — Posted on December 12, 2009 02:31 PM

I applaud your efforts to report this as openly as you do, offering opinions on both sides of the issue. I am a layperson, who has been following this since 2007, reading a vast number of articles including the PNAC report and it is truly disturbing especially considering that it makes reference to reducing population through such measures as global pandemics. Reading about the number of untimely deaths/murders of many high level microbiologists, hearing phrases such as 'false flag', understanding how incestuous business, government, media, pharmaceuticals, etc.. can be. Also how driven individuals can be by greed and wealth that they forget they are part of the bigger picture. They just forget that they are only a link like the rest of us. In my heart, I believe the whole financial market debacle is all related to this. 'This' is all done to make us scared so we buy more, spend more, get more in debt to the banks which in essence become the 'government'. Then once everyone is in debt to the government, we no longer have a democracy. We have a 'fear'ocracy, where all our decisions are based on our fear of surviving day to day because we do not own ourselves anymore. Debt owns us and the banks own our debt and the government owns our banks which has been the plan from the very beginning. Just like the twin towers, it will all eventually come crashing down, from the top, at freefall speed, into its own footprint, pulverized with very little evidence of its existence. But then, we'll just blame Osama, won't we.

Reva Robillard  — Posted on December 12, 2009 02:18 PM

Always a lot of comments whenever CBC or BBC present a 9/11 events!
I didn't officially count which side people are taking, but one may venture to say that the number of truthers is dangerously increasing.

I just would like to add 2 points to the discussion:

* the first is about the number of people needed to conduct such an operation as described by Meigs from Popular Mechanics when talking about the other theory, ... but at the same time the Cheney/Bush story would necessitate the work of only 19 hijackers and one guy in a cave!

* the second is about the controlled demolition expert who described how much preparation would be needed and the number of explosive charges on each beam that would be required to actually put the tower down in a controlled demolition manner; the work always mentions as impossible due to occupancy (see the FE web version @37 minutes). However he would estimate that the impact of one plane on the 88th floor and the fire from the kerosene are sufficient to turn concrete into dust and beams to melt on the 20th floor 56 minutes later!

Now if you could send the footage to radio-canada.tv for viewing in QuŽbec, that would be awesome!

Marcel M. Desrosiers  — Posted on December 12, 2009 02:05 PM

Thank you for presenting what looks like a balanced overview of the questions surrounding the events of September 11, 2001. As an American, I have been very concerned, almost from the first, that we have not been given anywhere near the full story of what happened, and WHY, on that day. My suspicions have been multiplied by the stubborn refusal of our mainstream media outlets to give any air-time at all to the growing concerns of the American public with regard to what really happened on 9/11. In effect, our questions have been blacked-out, in the land where "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom of the Press" were once cherished ideals -- instead, our media and our leaders "just don't go there," a very weird response, I think, if our questions were totally unfounded. I hope that within my lifetime an truly independent investigation of the events of September 11, with subpoena power leading wherever it may lead, will be carried out. If we Americans can't influence our leaders to do this, maybe "influence" by our neighbors to the north, and other concerned world citizens will play some part in establishing a new investigation. The more people, wherever they are, who are conversant about the questions surrounding 9/11, the better. Thank you, Fifth Estate for telling this story. I'd love to see the entire program at some point.

Marianna Maver  — Posted on December 10, 2009 10:54 PM

Great job overall CBC. Richard Gage hesitated to speculate so I can answer your question to him Bob.

“If you’ve wired these buildings for controlled demolition, why would you need airplanes? You’ve got the bombs, why couldn’t you just blame that on the Iraqis and al Qaida?

Well, because the towers had high security systems after the bombing in ‘93 and WTC7 was ultra-high security because it was home to the Emergency Management control center as well as the largest CIA office on the east coast, Secret Service and Securities and Exchange Commission. Access to these towers would only be possible with special authorization not available to former CIA freedom fighters turned bad.

Coincidentally, fires in WTC7 were seen only the floors where evidence for hundreds of active court cases were stored and all traces were destroyed when the building collapsed, making prosecution of cases like Enron difficult or impossible. Motive, opportunity…secret services rendered.

The planes were an unexpected event that supposedly caught airport security off guard and caused significant damage to the towers. Months of security access to install explosives in all three buildings attributed to Muslim terrorists is a completely unrealistic scenario that the public would never accept.

Bob said, “Hundreds, thousands of people must have been involved, the odds of all the years later, keeping a lid on it, would be infinitesimal.”

Well it worked for the Manhattan project didn't it? In reality, three steel frame buildings all collapsing in the same location on the same day for the first and only time in history represents infinitesimal odds. This is true factual information that you ignore in favor of false speculation.

Talk to the NYC firemen about the gag order on them to keep them silent about the bombs in the buildings. Why not broadcast some of the fire chief and emergency worker testimony about explosives in the towers? You can find free clips of great stuff on YouTube, search 911 Eyewitness.

Actually winning odds got the green light to proceed with the treasonous crimes of 9.11. Dozens of high ranking officials promoted for their loyalty. Hundreds of military personnel sworn to secrecy and thousands of industry personnel who don’t dare raise an objection or risk dismissal like Kevin Ryan for pointing out that the steel was certified and wouldn’t melt. Why risk your pension when faced with a monstrous evil so great that the average person is unable to comprehend it?

Brent Blanchard said, “When I travel to Malaysia or someplace and folks ask me so what happened…this is the real danger of this information being accepted as truth overseas.”

Did he just make this up or did he actually go to Malaysia "or someplace" and have someone ask him this question? Did you verify this wasn't just a fabrication for dramatic effect?

As it happens Malaysia hosted an International War Crimes Tribunal that found the Bush administration guilty of crimes against humanity, treason and murder. As did the 2-year citizen’s international tribunal for Afghanistan held in Tokyo, Japan. Overseas people are not brainwashed as effectively by MSM as within America and are able to analyze the information more easily. They are waiting for us to catch up.

Expose the crimes of 911  Vancouver — Posted on December 10, 2009 07:49 PM

Thanks for your brave effort to expose the crimes of 9.11.

However, I was disappointed that you aired James Megs bogus exaggerated conjectures such as, "A Conspiracy would involve the entire staff of a half dozen airports, the entire CIA, US military, the entire journalistic establishment, hundreds of thousands of people would be keeping this secret today, how credible is that?"

Ever heard of the Manhattan project? The question is how many people could keep a secret if their job and/or life depended on it? The top brass in the military all got promotions and increased budgets.

In reality a black op carried out within the framework of the war game exercises needed only dozens of operatives in key positions. The innocent support staff under them in most cases were either sworn to military secrecy or afraid to speak out. Anyone who appeared likely to talk would surely meet with an unfortunate accident and many did.

Case in point is Barry Jennings, Manager of the Emergency command center in WTC7 who went public stating that he walked over dead bodies before the towers collapsed and heard explosions inside WTC7. He was killed shortly after his censored BBC interview aired and his full Loose Change interview was made available to the public.

Brent Blanshard couldn’t imagine how the towers got wired with explosives. Well the new owner Silverstein had six months to complete systematic renovation work removing asbestos, allowing demo teams to install thermite, hidden in ceiling area trusses, during the night when offices are closed. Dedicated service elevators were used to gain access and vacant floors to store materials.

Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the towers on the Thursday before 9.11. The security system was shut down over the weekend prior to 9.11 to install fiber optic cabling in the towers allowing connection of all individual floor demolition charges.

High power military explosives were set in the basement garages just prior to the demolition, destroying the core steel foundation at the bedrock level and registering seismic spikes at Lamont-Doherty. This allowed the core steel to fall down into the basement and resulted in the observed short debris pile. Tritium in the ground water indicates hydrogen devices were used and their extremely high temperature explains the molten metal discovered in liquid state 6 weeks after 9.11.
It also explains the uniform fine powder on the ground because water in the concrete was evaporated and 1,700 people vaporized, leaving only tiny bone fragments on nearby rooftops. Thermite can't do that.

Senior counsel John Farmer stated there was “absolutely nothing to support planted explosives in the trade towers.” But then his team’s report said WTC7 didn’t exist either so he's been compromised.

Brent Blanchard said “none of those things (squibs) happen before the collapse.” Sorry, 911 Eyewitness Festival Cut DVD clearly shows how the WTC1 communication tower fell in the central core before the outside collapse began. Huge explosive dust clouds can be seen in the upper section before the collapse started 7 floors above a single isolated fire. The resulting dust cloud resembles a volcanic eruption of debris high into the atmosphere requiring a massive release of heat energy – more conclusive evidence of demolition explosions.

Canuck truth seeker  Vancouver — Posted on December 10, 2009 07:28 PM

Canada to the rescue. Thanks CBC! But please digg deeper.

Show me the planes! No NTSB reconstructions exist and no time-change serial numbered maintenance parts for any commercial jets were found because this was a modern day version of Operation Northwoods courtesy of the military industrial complex and PNAC evildoers. Eisenhower warned us!

Tripod 2 was running at the World Trade Center with FEMA setting up it’s headquarters at pier 93 on 9.10 according to Rudy Giuliani’s testimony, the same day Donald Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon could not account for 2.3 trillion dollars in budget expenditures. But then all would soon be forgotten and forgiven.

Insider trading of PUT options against United Airlines and American Airlines was abnormally high in the days prior to 9.11 indicating foreknowledge of the attacks. International investment banks place these million dollar bets - so follow the money!

Firemen reached the impact zone of WTC2 and radioed that just 2 small fires remained and they needed 2 hose lines to knock them down. So hundreds of NY’s finest entered the building because no steel frame building has ever collapsed in history.

However, if the fires were put out there would be no reason for the towers to fall so WTC2 had to be destroyed ahead of WTC1. Minutes later the top section leaned over like a tree but didn’t fall, explosives turned it to dust in mid air as clearly visible on 911 Eyewitness.

James Megs got several false statements aired to continue misleading the public. Standard Operating Procedure is 2 minutes without radio contact or 2 miles off course and jets get scramble to investigate. 67 fighter jets were scrambled in the year prior to 911 – INSIDE the US.

Northern Patriot  Vancouver — Posted on December 10, 2009 06:55 PM

Better late than never CBC! Patriots appreciate your attempt to shine a light on the unanswered questions. However, numerous factual errors and doctored plane video, see YouTube “Fooled Again on 911”, should have been checked and removed before going to air. You folks have chosen to omit some of the most damaging evidence to the official story like WAR GAMES, INSIDER TRADING, and NO PLANE WRECKAGE, yet include bogus cover-up team claims of incompetent air defense and lack of seismic data.

Poor research overlooked award winning scientific evidence and original analysis by 911 Eyewitness. Search YouTube or view the DVD to clearly see how seven laws of science prove the towers were destroyed by explosives. Seismic data taken from the official FEMA report clearly shows massive high-speed explosive spikes at the beginning of both tower collapses.

911EW researchers also obtained data produced by Lamont-Doherty that provides a direct comparison of the “New Jersey Gasoline Tank Farm Explosion” and the North Tower to conclusively prove massive explosives created the seismic signals on 9.11. Brent Blanshard doesn’t know an S wave from a P wave and you folks went to air with his unverified false claims, representing them as valid science.

I’m looking forward to the follow up piece for - the rest of the story. US War Game Exercise Week was in progress and a dozen exercises were taking place on 9.11, some simulating aircraft crashing into a tower and another into the Pentagon, similar to MASCAL and ALMALGAM VIRGO that featured Osama bin Laden and UAVs. No jet fighters scramble for electronic decoy hijackings, “Is this real world or exercise?”

Dave Shaw  Vancouver — Posted on December 10, 2009 06:48 PM

Hats off to CBC for the fairest handling of this "uncomfortable" topic to appear on mainstream media to date. The comments just keep coming, what does that tell you CBC?? Canadian soldiers are dying in Afganistan and 9-11 is the basic reason we are there, don't forget this is not "Old News".
The range of comments and the points raised are huge and should tell you that you could do a whole investigative series on this topic.
ie: - The utter lack of any identifiable airliner debris at Shankswille or the Pentagon. Anyone who regularly watches the news would wonder "is that supposed to be an airliner crash site?" really? look through your own archives and compare.
- Why was mayor Giuliani Not at his Emergency Command Center on the 23rd floor of WTC #7 ?? The most ideal location all set up and ready to go. Only 2 men showed up to man their post only to find it abandoned, curious? Who ordered that, what reason?
- The United States the World's only Superpower, its military headquarters building "The Pentagon" has apperently NO working air defence system, or it is only able to intercept Soviet Supersonic bombers or cruise missiles, but not a lumbering airliner with it's transponder turned off. Really?
Each of these questions just opens a can of worms. Major historical events by there nature invite a tonne of questions. Too bad the "Official Story" does such a poor job of answering so many of them.

Ged  — Posted on December 10, 2009 04:23 PM

Thank you for airing this documentary. It is up to the individual to decide what the truth is and this at least gives them the opportunity to look at the events differently. If they feel that there is more than what has been told to them in the official story, they can do more research. To accept everything that we are told as the truth is a frightening thought.
It is easier to affect the masses through chaos. All one has to do is look at what has been done since 9-11. Invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, implementation of the Patriot Act and Homeland Security to name a few. Do you think that the average American would have approved of these actions if they were not fighting `terror`!
Well done CBC. Perhaps tackle climategate next.

ON Truthseeker  ontario — Posted on December 9, 2009 12:50 PM

I was pleased and intrigued to watch this very well-made investigative program on 9-11. It was forwarded to me via email, and I watched via youtube.

The show must rank as the first relatively balanced television program on 9-11 to air in English, on a major network. That in and of itself is shocking. That there are so many unanswered questions -- from widows and children of those who died, from rescue workers, from architects, from pilots, from forensic scientists -- and no program in 8 years has looked at them. Amazing.

To everyone out there who has doubts about the official story: I'd say the truth is that we don't know the truth. That we can all agree on, no? And that in and of itself is enough that we demand a real investigation. It is not helpful to get bogged down in debating the details of our personal speculation.

Even to those who still feel sure the official story is true, I ask: if you are going to a jungle where there is even just a 1% chance of contracting malaria, wouldn't you still get the inoculation?

We need to know what happened on 9-11, and who did it, before we vote for another round of politicians or engage in another round of wars.

Thank you, CBC, for an excellent, and eminently needed, program.

Sincerely,
tony

Tony  — Posted on December 8, 2009 11:16 PM

I forgot to mention:
Besides the severe loss of life that occured,
has anyone considered the extreme amount of
FINANCIAL DATA that was destroyed???? Wonder
what secrets were destroyed on that day?

Just a thought.

JAN RIVARD  — Posted on December 8, 2009 02:09 PM

Thank you for finally airing the subject of such suspect and dubious circumstance. I was concerned that it would go unnoticed. And that people would blindly accept that b.s. they were being spoon fed.

I happened to be in a dept. store on 9/11; surrounded by numerous tv's each on a different channel (with both American and Canadian news). About 45 min into the reporting there was an abrupt shift in reporting on all American channels that was so apparent; like they were all reading a script, and stopped reporting news. Complete facts and details were either changed or no longer mentioned and the whole focus had shifted.

Consider who owns most of the media. Why don't Americans insist on getting to the bottom of this?
Looks like carefully planned fear mongering.

Rather than just being sheep, perhaps they need to watch "zeitgeist" on youtube, and let that sink in, and question and test each theory presented in regards to 9/11, and it's governing system. Completely enthralling in it's implications and magnitude.

In any event, I applaud the efforts of fifth estate,
for having the fortitude and wisdom to bring it to light with ballance and integrity.

Jan R., Red Deer, Alberta

Anonymous  — Posted on December 8, 2009 02:03 PM

Regarding the collapse of the three WTC buildings, I firmly believe the Bush Administration with Dick Cheney at the helm planned and orchestrated this false flag manouver. This was done in an effort to instill fear and insecurity in the hearts of the U.S. population.
It seems for the most part to have worked. Although
the majority of people around me (very conservative geographical area) swallowed the so called "Offical Story". I for one did not. During my time in the United States military I was involved with "top secret" information. It was there that I learned that all governments Lie to their populus. All a person need do to find out about this tactic is to Google "false flag
operations"

Edwin Hymas  — Posted on December 8, 2009 01:26 PM

This program ranks among the most idiotic I've ever had the misfortune to have to sit through. The usual anti-American bigotry that seems to define CBC programming was in full force. The CBC seems to have thousands (millions) of dollars to cater to the moronic beliefs of leftist nut-cases, but refuses to investigate the very real corruption that has been revealed in the mass of information released by the climategate whistleblowers.

Regarding a majority of the comments posted - I think it is time to re-open all those mental facilities that were closed down in the 90's.

mike stephenson  — Posted on December 7, 2009 08:41 PM

ONLY BEEN HERE FOR 1\2 hour but agree with YOUR APPROACE .thank GOD IT IS NOT ALWAYS SO POPLUART that The sheep agree .There ios a whole different "golden Rule" in Canada "them Who Has Da GOLD makes Da rules" Only You can save us just "working Poor ' Just keep being The Fifth Estate.
truly yours:
Joe (Smokin Joe If U choose)

SmokimII  — Posted on December 7, 2009 07:23 PM

Congratulations, CBC! I lived in Toronto two decades ago, and learned that though Canada is not without its own problems, it is a much more "free" and "democratic" society than my native USA. Though I am back in the U.S. and, for reasons of inertia, will probably die here, it is the Maple Leaf flag, and the stirring tune and words of "O Canada," that make my heart swell when I see and hear them, not the Stars and Stripes, and "O Say Can You See?"

CBC has had the courage to broadcast what no American network has broadcast: reports of substantial evidence proving that 9/11 "was an inside job." I would urge you to expand your investigation into this treasonous and outrageous crime committed by the very same people who claim to be the "guardians of democracy," and the "leaders of the Free World."

Canadians! Lift high your heads, and set your jaws. Bring the truth to light. Reveal the evidence to the world in a way that cannot be ignored or denied. By this, claim your rightful place and title as the most democratic and free nation in the western hemisphere, and perhaps the world. Help your American brothers and sisters bring the sociopathic criminals behind 9/11, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to justice.

Kim Rapczak  — Posted on December 7, 2009 07:07 PM

Production @ Fifth Estate:

"You know what you have to do"!

There is a template for your next program available and very easy to find: cleaner and easier to understand than your half-hearted, half-truthed presentation by Smirky McKoewn.

Google Video:... "Improbable Collapse"...which is about the same length of time available to FE on CBC.
Sit down with all the 'CBC presenters': include everybody...Rex Murphy,et al... on both CBC radio and television, watch this and discuss it among yourselves.

Ask questions...get answers!

There is no excuse to let this issue pass into a memory hole of lies and half-truths.
Canadian soldiers are dieing in Afghanistan...
BECAUSE OF LIES
You people have a publicly supported forum to point out the TRUTH.
Use it or you will lose it!
Stiffen your spines against OFFICIAL TERRORISM!

How much longer do you people believe the Truth can be buried?
This is the people's grassroots battle against 21st-Century Fascism!!!
Which side are you on???

"YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO!"

Now do it!

{I am a life long CBC listener/supporter. Never in my long life have I seen things more desperate than today.)

Bischoff  BC — Posted on December 7, 2009 04:15 PM

When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains,however improbable, must be the truth"
AC Doyle "The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier"

It's sad how distorted the term 'conspiracy theory' has become. To the extent that in popular use it is the equivalent of calling it a foolish delusional ranting of a crazy person. "Don't listen to them, they're just a bunch of conspiracy theorists." But anybody with even a basic knowledge of history must acknowledge that it is replete with conspiracy facts.
As for the present debate, we have nothing but theories -- official and otherwise. Like any other theory, they remain so until the facts are brought to bear. When an explanation of a phenomena encompasses the facts then we drop the terminology and call it the truth.
So we have the government explanation of the events of 9/11 and at the very most it too is a mere theory. From my point of view an incomplete and inconsistent one. To endorse it requires that we believe things that on 9/10 would have been thought insane:

•That the towers could collapse into their own footprints at free-fall speeds.
•That the pilot who purportedly flew into the pentagon was skilled enough to fly a curved path into the side of the low building without hitting telephone poles, or the ground prematurely. An amazing accomplishment for a pilot who had never flown a real jet.
•That the high test materials used in the motors and structure of a jet would vaporize on impact. [Pictures we all saw that heinous day showed no debris from the planes -- either at the pentagon or in shanksville.]
•That the force of the twin towers impact and subsequent fires were hot enough to turn metal into the flowing molten pools documented on film.
•That NORAD was entirely unable to respond.
•That cell phones worked.
•That the intelligence community thought that the first crash was due to a 'terrible pilot'.
•ETC


The 'official' conspiracy theory attempts to makes us believe an explanation that even common sense tells us is supremely unlikely.

So far, the main impetus of the 'truthers' has been to discredit the sanctioned theory. As yet, it is impossible for them to offer a coherent, fact-based alternate theory. Much of the evidence needed is long gone or inaccessible. So for now they are left with mere speculation.
Not to say that they're wrong. Not all criminal cases are proven with 'smoking-gun' facts. That's why they allow convictions wherein the case is established 'beyond a reasonable doubt".

This is the most important criminal case in our modern history. We need conspiracy theories that withstand scrutiny better than the one approved by the very people whose responsibility it was to ensure that such an atrocity would not happen. Do you think there may be a little political self-preservation among those who certified the 9/11 commission report?

Keep eliminating the impossible!

Sherlock58  Vancouver — Posted on December 7, 2009 03:46 PM

I also wanted to add that when I first saw the twin towers collapsing on Sept 11th, I was in 7th grade and my first reaction to the video footage was; "That looks like a controlled demolition." Of course I was too young to realize the implications of that but later on when I was made aware of the official story and how they claimed that fires caused those buildings to collapse at near free fall speed, it was made obvious to me that the official version was a grotesque lie.

Justin  Ottawa — Posted on December 7, 2009 02:34 PM

interview chArlie sheen... nobody else hAs the nerve to...

bob butler  newfoundlAnd — Posted on December 7, 2009 02:05 AM

WTC 7 NYC 9/11 47 STOREYS WAS IMPLODED IN NEAR FREE FALL TIME 6.5 secs. QED IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTE.
CONSULT GALILEO & NEWTON LAW OF FALLING BODIES.
THERMITIC MATERIAL AS CONFIRMED SCIENTIFICALLY IN DUST.
ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO SMELL A RAT.
ae911truth.org
firefightersfor911truth.org

John Cameron  Australia — Posted on December 7, 2009 01:56 AM

5th Estate goes where other news outlets tremble to pass
Bravo on that.

Anyone with any sense saw a demolition on 911 and heard the bombs going off.
I Do not know why ,but the Official story is bogus and easily seen as Bogus by those with average intelligence.

David  — Posted on December 6, 2009 10:57 PM

At last a Canadian Journalist wakes up to the biggest scandal of all times!! What your report describes as the
"Achilles Heel" came at the end of the story instead of the beginning . Why?
Just ask the question : "Why would a 47 story building
collapse at 5pm on the day of 9/11 ". Stop with the "conspiracy" postulations etc and just ask your selves that question only.Many other questions will arise later but focus on that one question first. There is enough for one whole documentary on this alone
Hint: Ask yourselves how many people in Germany "knew" about what was happening in"the camps"Was it in the press?
And if not why was it not in the press about what was happening in the camps
PLEASE revisit this

Michael O'Malley  bc — Posted on December 5, 2009 09:07 PM

Yes, great unbiased report CBC.
My primary concern, the addressing of which in all probability would have denied the Truth Movement it's platform, is that the official investigation chose (as they so often do) to whitewash all the shortcomings in Governmental response to these so-called attacks.

Whether or not the "official" point of view is generally correct, is irretrievably compromised by the air of public contempt with which this Commission (an ALL such official enquiries) appear to approach their tasks.

Were they (and their ilk) forthcoming from the get-go, perhaps "theorists" wouldn't have any legs ever to stand on.

Patrick Campbell  — Posted on December 5, 2009 05:11 PM

(1)THREE buildings do not drop straight down into their own footprints, at the speed of gravity, unless they have been rigged with demolition charges.
(2) Where was NORAD on 9/11? 24/7/365 for 60+ YEARS, NORAD was "standing by" yet on ONE day.....?
(3) Since WHEN does THIS Government come rushing out handing BILLIONS of Dollars left and right to victims of something that the Government has not (yet) been PROVEN to have been part of !? This government denied WWI Bonus Army, It denied leaving 8,000 POWS alive in Korea, it denied Agent Orange Vets, It denied Gulf War Syndrome Vets, even TODAY it denies CURRENT Vets treatment for PTSD and injuries from Iraq ........ And people don't think throwing those BILLIONS around before the dust settled on 9/11 was SUSPICIOUS !
Only the most ignorant believe the "official" STORY.

Marvin  Detroit — Posted on December 5, 2009 03:35 PM

Dear Fifth Estate,

Thank you for giving this topic some much needed air time in a somewhat fair light. I would have been even more impressed had your program focused on the recent findings of Nano-Thermite technology in the dust of the World Trade Center buildings #1 & #2, (by two independent researchers). As well as the fact that the worlds leading developers of Nano-Thermite technology are the same folks that work for NIST, (who were tapped to produce the 'scientific' studies on how all 3 WTC buildings collapsed).

Richard Gage has given up a lot in his personal life for this quest for truth. Your program dealt with him in a respectful manor, and for that I am very thankful.

I wish that more of the 'news' programs in the states had the same journalistic integrity that your network and program has displayed.

Thanks again,

Dandiablo

P.S. Looking forward to your follow up program on the Nano-Thermite and subsequent investigations....

Dandiablo  — Posted on December 5, 2009 03:20 AM

Thank you CBC for doing a fair piece on September 11. Thank you for giving both sides of the debate equal ground. 9/11 is very important because it has defined the world and bought legislation such as the Patriot act and has brought Canada into war in Afghanistan. Please do more.

S  Vancouver — Posted on December 4, 2009 11:56 PM

The Fifth Estate has once again shown courageous leadership. In 1992, it aired To Sell a War,exposing the fraud of the Kuwaiti incubator baby story.

Of course a one-hour show with commercials (47 minutes) cannot do justice to the discoveries of the 9/11 Truth movement. Yet it was a start.

Millions around the world agree that the official story is the real conspiracy theory. There are literally so many holes in the official story, that a thinking person must question it.

Not mentioned was the fact that the WTC steel was quickly shipped overseas to be melted down, therefore an examination to reveal evidence of explosives could not happen. This act in itself was an unprecedented violation of federal crime laws.

In the attempt to provide "balanced" reporting on this story, the speaker from Popular Mechanics stated unequivocally that "the entire military" would need to know if 9/11 was perpetrated from the inside. From reading about covert operations, that is simply not true, for such operations are ALWAYS compartmentalized...meaning that no one knows any more than they need to know to do their part. Think Manhattan Project.

It was very interesting to learn about the actor who researched his role as a fireman at Ground Zero that day. That could have led to hearing real-life firefighters telling us about hearing many large explosions that morning, something that millions have seen on you-tube videos.

Interviews with intelligent 9/11 Truthers were merely a tease. David Ray Griffin has extensive knowledge of the inconsistencies, omissions and distortions of the official story. Certainly more time should have been given to long-standing Canadian investigative journalist Barrie Zwicker, who wrote in his book, "Towers of Deception -The Media Cover-up of 9/11:

"When investigative journalists fail to investigate the obvious, it is deep complicity. When investigative journalists only investigate that which distracts the public from the obvious, it is even deeper complicity. But there is a terribly widespread tendency among the populace to want to be lied to. Denial would exist even if the mainstream media did not. We must confront that in ourselves and in others, even as we rightly place the greatest onus upon those who claim to inform us".

Tsiporah  BC — Posted on December 4, 2009 09:57 PM

Well Well Well
Rex Murphy calls it "ClimateGate"!
Maybe the Fifth Estate can call the next program...

9/11GATE

The people @ FE have a nice long pause over the holidays to do some honest research and not attempt to pass 'Smirky' McKeown's pablum off as honest journalism.

What were you people thinking airing this?

Canadians are not that stupid as to let this pass and let it again fall down the blackhole of memory.

Stiffen your spines! The future of the world hangs in the balance and FE plays silly games.

This battle is equal to the fight against the Nazis before the advent of WW2.

Which side is the FE on?

David  BC — Posted on December 4, 2009 09:34 PM

I totally agree with Raymond who commented on December 4.

Fifth Estate, please investigate the matter of Michael Hess and Barry Jennings:

New York Housing Authority Emergency Coordinator Barry Jennings, and NY City corporation council Michael Hess reported to have got stuck in the WTC 7 stairwell between the 6th and 8th floor due to a powerful bomb blast from below them. This cocurred between 09:30 and 09:59 (ie. before either of the twin towers disintegrated). For more info please visit fabledenemies.com

Fifth Estate, please restore our faith in the CBC and in journalism in general. Investigate this matter.

Thanking you in advance,
Stephen Badhwar

Stephen Badhwar  — Posted on December 4, 2009 08:56 PM

The Fifth Estate should be commended for airing this program as it was relatively fair and showed many topics that the main stream media has been afraid to talk about. Like many other people I have a lot of questions about 9/11 which are still not explained. It was unfortunate that at the beginning of your program you showed the JFK assassination, the speculated faked moon landing, and 9/11 together. 9/11 and JFK are the same with ridiculously poor commissions set-up to investigate leaving many questions unanswered. For the Apollo moon landing there is an explanation for every question raised by the people that believe it was a hoax. This is what should be available for 9/11. It is also sad that it was the victims families that demanded an investigation and forced the creation of the 9/11 commission. Ask any of them if they are satisfied with the report and they will all say no. Richard Gage makes the point that the physical evidence shows that thermate was used. As he said it is not his position to speculate on the how or why, but to look at the laws of physics and evidence that proves something must have been done to bring these three buildings down the way they did. A controlled demolition takes weeks of planing and sometimes it goes wrong. On 9/11 we are to believe that by chance three buildings collapse straight down at free fall speed? Thus, it should be easy to bring down buildings by creating some structural damage to a relatively small portion of a it and then just light a fire. Why the need for all the preparation work if it was successful three times on September 11, 2001? Why are people afraid of having the tough questions answered?

John Fedorko  — Posted on December 4, 2009 07:59 PM

On 11/09/2001 both WTC 1 & 2 were supposed to have been hit by versions of the Boeing 767-200 series. The Pratt & Whitney engines they use burn high-grade(refined)kerosene. Original film footage clearly demonstrates extremely explosive force expelling massive pieces of steel in lateral ejections as so well explained by Richard Gage. They look like mini mushroom clouds. Concrete is turned to powder. Both towers crumble at freefall speed in an average ten seconds.

On 28/07/1945 a US Airforce B-25 bomber struck the Empire State Bldg on the 79th floor in dense fog. Its' dimensions dwarfs to roughly a third of a Boeing 767.The plane's high-octane GASOLINE fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor. Four floors were affected - much like the WTC 1 & 2. The fires were put out and the building was fully repaired.

What is exremely interesting is that though one cannot compare the planes due to size and fuel capacity, two other factors can be: Extremely flammable GASOLINE in the B-25 vs KEROSENE in the Boeing 767s and the non-weakening of steel at the ESB and NO COLLAPSE vs steel weakening and a ten second collapse at the WTC. In addition, the WTC bldgs had a fire-retardant coating which the ESB lacked!

The other topic is Prof Dewdney: I sensed that, due to body language he felt somewhat uncomfortable saying that the actual planes were switched and then ditched - passengers and all. If one thinks of 9/11 as "the perfect crime", it probaly is. All bases have to be covered. It is clear, for example that the Boeing 757 that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon did not. Before the collapse of the exterior ring, with a wingspan of 125 ft, it was supposed to have gone through a 20 ft hole!
Eyewitnesses, including two Pentagon police officers while at a Citgo gas station, saw what could have been AA flight 77 come low and overshoot the Pentagon!

Prof Dewdney has no proof that the 3 planes were ditched anywhere - hence his hesitance in saying so. I support that opinion, however as it becomes the only logical conclusion. Everyone who saw this doc should google: Operation Northwoods. You will find that there is precedent for plane switching and false-flag operations. As for the fate of the passengers? It might be even reasonable to think, given the "thickness of the plot" that they were ditched.

And the cell calls? In 2005 AA announced the placement of cell stations in their planes as a new feature. Don't you sometimes STILL go into the "boonies" and discover that you are out of your calling area? At SOME point these planes would have been at max altitude..


Outan  Brampton — Posted on December 4, 2009 04:34 PM

Hi,
I belive that the debate over 9-11 is not even supposed to be take. Look at the evidence pointing to the government..Anyone that has taken PHY1301 would learn about objects and gravity .You can can dot he calculations using Newtonian Laws to come to a conclusion if an object or building that heavy can collapse at that time if it had no supporting columns. Estimate and if it is close then thats your answer. You do not need someone in a suit and tie and carrying a black breifcase to tell you the truth.

Ikoro  Minneapolis — Posted on December 4, 2009 01:00 PM

If The Fifth Estate gets back to doing some investigative journalism, there is one question I would like it to address and there is some urgency to my request because only one of the two witnesses to the incident I am referring to is still alive. When he's gone, we'll only be able to speculate about what happened to both Michael Hess and Barry Jennings shortly after they had arrived at Mayor Giuliani's Emergency Command Center on the 23rd floor of building 7.

Barry Jennings worked for the Housing authority. Michael Hess was the legal advisor for the City of New York. They had been summoned to the Emergency Center as soon as it was reported that a Cessna plane had crashed into the North tower.

When they showed up, it was apparent that the office had just been vacated, with "smoke" still floating above the coffe cups and half-eaten sandwiches on the desks. Shortly thereafter they were told to leave the building immediately. As the elevators were not functioning, they proceeded to climb down the emergency staircase and when they reached the 6th floor, there was a terrible explosion, coming from below, destroying the staircase below them. So they climbed up to the 8th floor and, from a window, Barry Jennings testified in a video made years later, he could see both towers still standing. The explosion in the staircase cannot therefore be attributed to the falling debris of the North tower.

It would be nice if The Fifth estate did some investigative journalism into this event which has been shunned by most media. Barry, unfortunately, died a little over a year ago in unknown circumstances. His family has vanished without leaving any traces, or so it seems. A private investigator hired to look into this matter promptly returned the money he was paid, not wanting to get involved.

The only person who could shed light into this bizarre event is none other than Michael Hess. Do we know how to reach him? We sure do. He is one of the founding partners of a New York company specializing in terrorism consulting, no less. It's called Giuliani Partners LLC.

Surely, he would have lots of interesting things to reveal. It would of course be preferable to question him under oath but it seems that those who have the power to compel witnesses to testify under oath have deemed that Mr. Hess has nothing interesting to say.

What do you say, CBC, does that sound like an interesting subject? I remember your piece about "Nurse Nayirah", many years ago. That was great. Please repeat.

Raymond  Montréal — Posted on December 4, 2009 01:00 PM

If, as the Popular Mechanics guy claims, the attackers got through because the USAF ETAL's air defence are not as perfect as Hollywood makes out, why has no one in the command structure been disciplined reprimanded or in anyway held accountable for the failure at ones primary job?

brian hambeton  toronto — Posted on December 4, 2009 11:10 AM

You forgot to mention that Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst publishing and for those who do not know the link should watch "Citizen Kane". Popular Mechanics claims that NORAD is only protecting us from oversea threts. This is not true as in the case of golfer Payne Stewart; the USAF was on his plane in 20 minutes after they lost contact with the pilot.

Bernie  Hamilton — Posted on December 4, 2009 05:05 AM

Thank-you CBC for having the courage to raise the specter of 9/11. Hopefully other media will take your example and start asking questions. Hard questions.

It is difficult to believe that a false-flag operation as complex as 9/11 could be carried out without a glitch. The ironic thing is that it is the official theory of what happened that is even more far-fetched. There were simply hundreds of coincidences that would have been necessary in order for it to happen the way they say it did.

Here are just a few:

It was a coincidence on 9/11 that for the first time in history four airliners were hijacked and slammed into their targets yet the US Air Force did not show up. This was the largest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbour but the entire FAA, USAF, and NORAD were totally incapable of doing anything.

It was a coincidence that those in command were not reprimanded for their negligence, but promoted.

It was a coincidence that only 2 out of a possible 8 flight data and voice data recorders were retrieved.

It was a coincidence that there was no wreckage or aircraft debris at any of the four crash sites that match and prove conclusively that the aircrafts that impacted the buildings, or the field, were AA 11, UA 175, AA77, or UA 93.

It was a coincidence that at Shanksville there was no wreckage from UA 93. None. Nothing but a smoking hole in the ground. No bodies. No luggage. No debris. Nothing.

It was a coincidence that for the first time in history not one, not two, but three steel-framed skyscrapers totally disintegrated in broad daylight due to structural damage and smoldering fires.

It was a coincidence that WTC 7 was not even struck by an airliner. It only had small fires on floors 7-9 and 11-13. No raging inferno.

It was a coincidence that all three buildings came down at near free-fall speed.

It was a coincidence that the BBC knew that WTC 7 would disintegrate before it actually happened, and reporter-on-the-scene Jane Stanley was able to announce it at 5:00 pm EST, 20 full minutes before it actually collapsed.

It was a coincidence that Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM) command bunker was in WTC 7 on the 23rd floor. It was built to be used in such a natural or man-made disaster. But, the Mayor chose not to use it but rather to set up an improvised command center in the lobby of a hotel up the street a bit.

It was a coincidence that AA 77 circled around the Pentagon, missed Rumsfeld's office, and struck the least-occupied wing of the Pentagon.

It was a coincidence that of all the security cameras at the Pentagon and the ones that the FBI confiscated from dozens of private or government buildings in the vicinity of the Pentagon, none of them captured a recognizable image of a Boeing 757-200 flying into the building.

It was pure coincidence that 4 flight-data and voice-data recorders at Ground Zero but were said to be vaporized, yet Atta's passport survived...

Fanciful fiction.


Stephen Badhwar  Whitehorse — Posted on December 4, 2009 02:46 AM

The documentary aired on the fifth estate, was not as well done, as previous investigative reports.. Example when interviewing the fellow from Popular Mechanics, he was allowed to come up with his conspiracy theory in which he believes the incredible government theory. Yet the reporter did not do any tough questioning of him, as to how he accepts all the outstanding questions that never have been answerered..for example General Myers apparently received a promotion from GWB after 9/11 to head of the joint chiefs of staff? Why the promotion..the planes were not intercepted and were allowed to hit their targets..hmm for that he gets a promotion..guess he did a good job instructing the jet fighters to stand down and allow the event to happen.
The list of questions is very lengthy from who stood to gain financially, to the obvious controlled demolition of the buildings, to GWB (mis)conduct during the attacks
to the allowing of Bin ladens family and Saudi Royals to leave the USA shortly after the event when the skies were still closed to all air traffic. Special executive privilege for them to leave why? So many questions need to be addressed..and then there is Willie Rodriquez, the janitor, who helped rescue many people, and was actually given a metal of honour by the Pres. until he starting explaining the events of that day with explosions in the sublevels of the tower prior to the aircraft strike..hmmm..the commission completely ignored all that..So Mr Mckeowen you missed the boat on this. Instead you keep asking the Professional Architect Mr Gage to speculate on what happened...and as a true professional this fellow, can deal with the facts of what happened, but to speculate a complete sceario is not within the scope of his investigation..the facts he and a thousand engineers and architects are saying are:
-the building collapsed in free fall speed..straight down
-jet fuel is no where close to buring hot enough to melt steel..about one third to one half hot enough
-People standing in the open area where the planes hit and smoke pouring out..were not incinerated, so could not have been very hot there
-explosions ahead of the collapse, every three floors, classic sign of controlled demolitions, as charges are destroying the remaining columns, just ahead of the collapse so there is no resistance
-there was no sideways collapse as there would be in column failure and the building would tip..in this case the columns all fail at once allowing the straight down collapse. This can only be caused by explosives and demolition
-The port authority tried to get demolition permits a few times for the towers, but could not get them..the buildings were money losers and had a lot of asbestos to be cleaned up
-9/11 took care of that, and gave GWB the excuse he wanted for his two illegal wars.
-There is lots to research material available on this, which raise so many questions, that the authorities, if they were not involved in this heinous crime should be anxious to answer and solve this crime..but their apparent paranoia indicates their foreknowledge, and even participation in this event.

Jim  Canada — Posted on December 3, 2009 11:39 PM

I tend to favour a more gentle, unhurried approach, one that President Obama and his inner core of associates can naturally relate to as the President goes to Oslo, Norway, on December 10th, 2009, to deliver his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize.

By way of illustration, here's something I wrote for Senator Patrick Leahy earlier in the year (on Valentine's Day):

Letter to Senator Patrick Leahy:

February 14th, 2009

"We need to read the page before turning the page."
Senator Patrick Leahy on the creation of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

Dear Senator Leahy,

When I contemplate on how a hypothetical "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" made up of homo sapiens of the calibre of, let us say, Socrates, Jesus, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., Mother Teresa, Ann Dunham Obama, Michelle Obama, and Oprah Winfrey (four outstanding men, and four equally outstanding women), I have no doubt whatever that only Love and Wisdom could and would emanate from such a group - because they would invariably be coming from love, not fear - knowing and experiencing that only love is real - no matter what "issue" they might be called upon to honestly look at and address. Because, as a group of kindred spirits representing no less than, in my opinion, the most highly evolved beings of the human race itself, nothing less than that would be "real" for them.

I am emphasizing this as our beginning point because I am fully aware of how potentially explosive and chaotic it might be if the world as a whole - and North America most particularly - were to discover that the "official" 9/11 story is predicated almost entirely on myth.

So what I am recommending here is a very gentle, firm, and unhurried approach to this "elephant in the living room" phenomenon we appear to be in denial about - again, most especially in North America - beginning with a careful reading of Dr. David Ray Griffin's 2008 classic, The New Pearl Harbor Revisited.

I would like to also suggest that Dr. Griffin be formally or informally invited by core members of "The Obama Team," the Senate Judiciary Committee and/or the House Judiciary Committee - as well as by professional interviewers like Oprah Winfrey and CNN's Larry King - for the sole purpose of finding out what is true or is not true in the numerous books and articles he has written and documented on 9/11 since 2004, and most particularly his recent boo, The New Pearl Harbor Revisited. And assess accordingly.

As you will see, this prestigious, low-key, and very creditable scholar/process theologian is no "conspiracy theorist" - any more than I am.

Very sincerely yours,

Val Scott


Val Scott  — Posted on December 3, 2009 11:10 PM

Popular Mechanics brought up a point about how something like this could be kept a secret as it would of taken thousands to have all this come about. Valerie Plame is one example of what happens to you when someone speaks out. Do you think the would be whistle blowers would be lining up to tell their story after that fine example of justice. They made a point of showing the world they can out their own spy and get away with it.
There’s all the first hand interviews before the wash- reporter at the Pentagon didn’t see much of a plane, coroner in Shanksville – not much for him to do there, WT7 rescue worker “better move back , that building coming down. “ after a few fires and minor damage.
Investigative reporting does not really exist- Fifth Estate glosses over the main items- one whole hour on just the Pentagon alone still would not be enough.
The Canadian news people perpetuate the myth, Rex Murphy, the At Issue Panel, all at one time or another back Bush’s science.
We lost Canadians in this treasonous act and to speak out against Bush even in Canada as one parliamentarian so found out- it’s NOT the right thing to do.
Do you 911 Truthers believe there will very be a real investigation. If these people can kill their own president and get away with it - 911 was a walk in the park.

Richard 49  — Posted on December 3, 2009 10:28 PM

Congratulations to CBC for at least trying to expose what most people know to be TRUE, that 911 was an inside job. I suspect this decision was driven by the fact that most people have woken up and have ZERO trust in the spin the mainstream or spinstream media regurgitates. We are tired of the garbage spin and it must have been reflected in your ratings. So, again, congrats for trying not to apply your own BS spin to this story.
You might want to look up Larry Silverstein's own admission to 'pull it' on youtube. If I said on camera that I pulled my house, it would be sufficient to charge me with a crime. Amazingly, the commission on the collapse of building 7 massaged out a completely different account. The lies are so in your face, I cannot believe anyone with two braincells to rub together cannot see them.

Chris K  — Posted on December 3, 2009 07:30 PM

The cleverness of whitewash documentaries is in their ability to focus on useless and diversionary aspects of a horribly tragic story. It would be so rewarding for everyone if for once the "journalists" had the courage to put the real questions to the real players:
1. Why was WTC 7 left out of the 911 commission report?
2. Why did Rumsfeld report over 2 TRILLION dollars missing from the Pentagon on Sept. 10, 2001 and then no one followed it up?
3. Why was the biggest crime scene in U.S. history shipped off to China without proper forensic testing?
4. Why wasn't the steel recycled in the U.S.?
5. Why was there still molten metal in the foundation of the towers 6 WEEKS after the fall?
6. Why was Dick Cheney getting a play by play of an incoming plane to the Pentagon when he testified that he didn't know of the plane or it's trajectory?
7. How did Al Jazeera T.V. get advance notice of the first plane hitting the North tower and covered it with a stationary camera? (I have seen the footage)
8. Who made inside short trades on the airlines involved and why weren't they brought to justice?
9. How did the owner of the towers have advance notice of their impending doom and why did he "pull" tower 7?
10. Why did FBI headquarters ignore and threaten witnesses to the Arab flight students who wanted to learn to fly but not to land?
11. How did Mohammed Atta's passport survive impact, fire and explosion and then dissapear from FBI evidence a year later?
12. How did building 7 fall as one complete piece when damage was concentrated to specific areas of the building?
It is very difficult for many of us to accept the truth that this world is run by some very nasty people and they do not care one iota about our well being. We are inherently good people and we find it hard to accept truths that we can't handle. Got your vaccine yet?

Britt Jackson  Jasper — Posted on December 3, 2009 06:51 PM

Thanks for covering this issue. I found the piece to be fairly honest. A little more research by the makers of the film might have put together a better and fuller sampling for the first time viewer to the material, but I didn't think it was a hit piece by any stretch, which is refreshing. I reccommend "Zero- An inverstigation into 9/11" as a good follow up to anyone interested in more info, and believe me, there is a lot more good information on the topic! We still need an on air debate which would more fully deal with this issue in a comprehensive manor. What we have so far is points slung from each side at you without the course of reply which is muchly needed to dig deaper into the story on both sides. It's a little tough for the first timer to sort through the bs without hearing the response to the bs from schooled individuals. My 2 sense!

mikael larson  — Posted on December 3, 2009 06:02 PM

Bob McKeown...aka 'Smirky' et al @ the Fifth Estate:

CUI BONO?

“Cui Bono"… Latin...used to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for a CRIME may not be who it appears at first to be… the phrase is used to suggest that the people guilty of committing a crime may be found among those who have something to gain, chiefly with an eye toward FINANCIAL GAIN. The party that benefits may not always be obvious or may have successfully DIVERTED ATTENTION TO A SCAPEGOAT.

To believe in the 9/11 “official story” is to believe in a massive, coordinated, and “coincidental” failure at many levels in which those most responsible for preventing the attacks were not fired or reprimanded and instead promoted.
The 9/11 official story depends on your ignorance of these and other facts, not on your knowledge of them. On top of this, there is very strong evidence to suggest that other parts of the attacks including the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and BUILDING 7 were deliberately orchestrated to make sure that the attacks were successful.

Who really benefited from the 9/11 attacks?
Why were whistleblowers silenced?
Why were NO officials reprimanded?
Why were they PROMOTED?
Who has profited from the billions of dollars spent on the 9/11 wars?
Why did Bush Block a Public 9-11 Investigation for more than 14 months?

CUI BONO?

Will FE honestly deal with this very important and world changing issue!?
Now follow it up!
Get 'Smirky' to deal with even one of these issues... ON AIR!


David  BC — Posted on December 3, 2009 02:37 PM

The Unofficial Story about the 9/11 tragedy is absolutely necessary to put pressure on those who want to prevent an independent investigation. As a structural engineering professor, I am convinced that building # 7 came down far too quickly and, indeed, should not have collapsed at all. It was not struck by a plane and yet it tumbled into a debris heap at 5:20 pm on Sept. 11th. It would be the first hi-rise steel structure to have collapsed by fire in the history of steel construction (confirmed by FEMA) and it wasn't even an inferno-type fire. My question is: why is the official government agency, NIST, not allowing the public access to information about the column sizes in #7? Are they worried that we might do our own analysis and conclude that it should never have collapsed? Mr. McKeown, and others of the CBC deserve our strongest support in exposing what happened on that day. Keep repeating this program. It's making people question the official narrative, and rightly so.

robert korol  — Posted on December 3, 2009 11:15 AM

To the comments made that are disgusted and angry at the story being aired and the assertions of the "truthers" as disparaging to the memory of the dead, or that the official story is the only story and all else is "conspiracy theory" by crackpots, or that this is anti-Americanism, I say do your homework.
See "Press for Truth", a documentary about the widows of 911 looking for answers to exactly what happened and falling down the rabbit hole of lies. Research the fact that many Americans also question the events surrounding the events of 911. If something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck it probably is a duck, even if the media and government call it a terrorist. I am reminded of a comment after a concert given by Carlos Santana in Vancouver where the writer complained that he never sang the whole concert, after she spent a lot of money on her ticket. One of the best guitarists in the world who never ever sings. Some people just do not get it. Use your own discernment or go back to sleep, just do not grumble someone tried to wake you up.

Chris Johnston  Chilliwack — Posted on December 3, 2009 09:52 AM

Thanks for at least mentioning 9-11 conspiracy on TV. A whole lot more can be said on the subject. It appears that your "balanced" program leads people to see Bush and company as bunglers and the rest of the players as mere speculators. Thanks, that sort of thing is what happens when you try to "balance" the evidence. Too bad you missed so much... so little time and so many tidbits to pick through.

The only real conspiracy here is that Sadam Hussan was harboring terrorists and had weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. multi-billion dollar intelligence system could not have gotten things so wrong. The only possible conclusion is that Bush and company are a bunch of liars.

Let's speculate about how much longer the U.S. administration can wage multi-billion dollar wars. The U.S. currency is going to collapse eventually under the weight of run away deficits and debt. Then, the house of cards falling is really going to impact something.

History repeats itself, just consider the causes of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, they primarly include government cash flow and taxation problems, corruption, incompetence and financing ongoing foreign wars.

In the end, people in the Roman Empire just stopped supporting the ongoing leadership and the crap that the political masters kept feeding its citizens. Ultimately, the empire dissolved. That sounds a bit like what happened in the U.S.S.R., a very odd coincidence.

David  Edmonton — Posted on December 3, 2009 07:09 AM

Congratulations for having the courage to show some arguments of the unofficial story. Most of the medias just reject these arguments by saying they are conspiracy theories and that they are not scientifically proofed.

You were able to show evidence on both sides and question them thoroughly. And ultimately, you respect viewer's intelligence and let them make up their mind.

Francois Cantin  Montreal — Posted on December 2, 2009 11:08 PM

Everyone else has pretty much covered it.

I'm not sure about the faked phone call business. I understand cell phones work in aircraft at 30,000 feet now. But was this the case on all four aircraft in 2001?

The business about three of the aircraft landing and putting all of the passengers on to Flight 93. Well, that was just embarrassing to watch. But it's been my experience that programs like this that purport to show the complete story always bring out the way-out-there conspiracy kook. That's why commentors above mention JFK, space aliens and even holocaust denial.

All security cameras which showed the plane hitting the Pentagon were seized from private businesses. No Pentagon footage showing the impact has ever been released, save for the one segment which you showed. This was likely done to encourage the conspiracy kooks and make all of us who want a full investigation to look bad.

Military aircraft were sent to intercept Payne Stewart's private jet which had gone off course and without radio contact in 1999.

There is no explaining how Building 7 collapsed. Buildings have caught fire since and have burned for hours and have not collapsed. Whatever you believe may have caused the twin towers to collapse, the Deuche Bank building was not hit by a plane. A nearby century-old church survived nearly unscathed.

There was no attempt to investigate the crime scene. In fact, some of the steel was recycled and fabricated in the construction of the Staten Island Ferry "Spirt of America."

Six of the ten members of the "9/11 Commission" have disowned their own report.

The USA PATRIOT ACT was written before September 11, 2001 and was just waiting for an excuse to be implemented. The Act was passed (as is common practise now in the United States) without being read by congressmen and senators.

Norman Minetta's testimony at the "9/11 Commission." Vice-President Cheney was completely unconcerned about the plane approaching the Pentagon. The plane is 50 miles out. 40. 30. 20. 10. Does the order still stand? Have I told you otherwise?

Whenever something spectactular happens, ask yourself, "who benefits?" In the "post-9/11 world," the police state was rolled out across the United States (they are trying, to a lesser extent, in Canada, too). The size of the U.S. government was tripled. Halliburton and defense contractors won multi-billion dollar no-bid contracts. The way was paved for war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Government spied on its own citizens (at least, now it was legal). Government had an excuse to take control of media. The CIA's involvement in domestic affairs was made legal. Incompetent departments scored huge funding increases based on the logic that their incompetence merited more money so they would be less incompetent. George Bush got an instant nearly-100-per-cent approval rating which allowed him, at least temporarily, to rule by decree.

Perhaps, one hundred years from now, our great-great grandchildren may finally know what really happened and why way back on September 11, 2001.

I am amazed that CBC aired this. I know you folks couldn't cover everything. But it is more fair than I would have expected. But was any consideration given to interviewing Alex Jones? He has been at the forefront of the Truth and Patriot movements. We owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

I hope it shows up on Frontline at some point so it can be introduced to a mainstream American audience.

Dave  — Posted on December 2, 2009 10:51 PM

what a ridiculous waste of time, money, and airtime; giving these conspiracy morons a forum for their nonsense.
are there no real stories to consider for us ?

don peterson  calgary — Posted on December 2, 2009 08:53 PM

You can find it on youtube! :)

Caroline  Ottawa — Posted on December 2, 2009 08:34 PM

That says one in three Canadians no longer believe
the official story, while, of course, this show was
mainstream morons wondering WHY that is so.

The obvious answer is that anyone who does
look at the available information concludes
that 9/11 must have been a false flag attack.
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I liked the following comments:


Brad Runyun | Havelock | Posted December 1, 2009 12:17 PM

When will the CBC admit that the Emperor has no clothes on?

This documentary says: "Maybe he's wearing his new clothes.
But an increasing number of people say he's naked. But we,
the CBC, can't quite tell if he's wearing clothes or not"

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David | England | Posted December 1, 2009 06:48 AM

This 'report' was lacking in so many ways; so much more material should have been covered. I am inspired to see there are more people who question the moronic official story.

It is indeed unfortunate there are such an alarming number of wilfully ignorant people who are afraid of having their cozy worldview influenced in an uncomfortable manner. These types rely on ad hominem attacks against those who question events.

Some items not touched on or questionably handled:

- the fact that there were military drills taking place that very day as a contingency for the event that actually happened - no mention at all.

- numerous witnesses including firemen who say they heard multiple explosions coming from the lower levels - no mention.

- the Israelis who were caught that day in a van which had a mural on the side depicting the twin towers with an American Airlines jet flying across them, 9/11 emblazoned on the towers. While being interviewed back in Israel, these Israelis said they were only there to record the event; how did they know an 'event' was to take place - no mention.

- the official story is offered almost immediately following the event if not partially during it. Very little actual investigating takes place before the whole story is laid out - no mention.

- since when does the crime scene get hauled away before the investigation is complete, if it began at all. I'd have to suggest it must be illegal to compromise the crime scene before the investigation has a chance to start or complete - no mention.

- the fellow in the baseball cap who offered his view re: controlled demolition said the buildings did not fall at free fall speed; really? At what speed did they fall then? It was indeed free fall. The lower levels offered no resistance at all; they were in fact pulverized. By what?

- why was there molten steel and super thermite found in the rubble? The molten substance found in the rubble was untouchable for days if not weeks.

- building 7 fell into it's own footprint, regardless of what the fellow in the baseball cap says. He did say it takes weeks to plant the necessary charges; so how did it fall so quickly after the command by Silverstein to 'pull it'? That command was in fact given, why? if there was no one in the building and certainly anyone in the immediate area had left long ago, all that remained was to extinguish the relatively small fires in it. It had not been struck by anything but debris.

- the steel found in the rubble showed obvious signs of having been cut by a shape charge; the perps had years to lay these charges in preparation, since the last attempt to blow the towers in the early nineties.

The work done by the Fifth Estate seems similar to that of a gatekeeper.

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Ron Elwart | | Posted November 30, 2009 04:11 PM


When a tree falls in the forest, does it turn to SAWDUST before it hits the ground?

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Bo Filter | | Posted November 28, 2009 11:46 PM

My conclusion is that it was a hit piece. Sure it gave some time to Gage, but he was only able to scrape the surface when it came to the hard evidence.

- Nanothermite - This is a smoking gun yet McKewon glosses over it. A real journalist would delve into it.
- Molten metal at Ground Zero mentioned as an aside - and where's the discussion of its implication, i.e. that office fires / jet fuel cannot melt steel. Another smoking gun.
- Deliberate confusion over the collapse of WTC7. The demolition expert "shill" was discussing how WTC1&2 didn't look like a controlled demolition (and no they don't look like a conventional one). He said the sides bowed out. The program created the impression that he was talking about building 7 and discrediting that. Why wasn't he shown commenting on WTC7 specifically and clearly - what could he say - it looks exactly like a demolition?

So while it was good to get some airtime, a fifth grader could have but together a more cogent argument on the CT side. Which leads me to think it was deliberate.

The fact is, a properly constructed argument using the hard evidence that Gage presents is pretty much irrefutable. People would be left with a choice - 1. believe it is a conspiracy with dozens or hundreds of people involved. Yes that is hard. Or 2. believe that for 1 day only on 911, the Good Lord / the Universe, lifted the laws of physical science and all kinds of strange physical never seen before phenomena were allowed to occur. Now that is impossible.

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Ted Wright | London | Posted November 28, 2009 11:37 PM

Shoddy journalism CBC. You have an expert saying that you would need 100 tons of professionally placed thermite to demolish one of the three buildings that collapsed. And yet less(fuel expended) than 78.66 tons of kerosene(jet fuel), haphazardly distributed, brought down all three buildings. I guess the demolition industry needs to rethink their explosive of choice.

You really need more people that actually think on your journalism team.

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glen | antigonish | Posted November 28, 2009 09:56 PM

... some blatantly obvious opportunities missed in this documentary. For starters, why wouldn't Mr Mckeowen ask the folks at NIST or Popular Mechanics why they won't debate the truth movement on live television? Charlie Sheen has given the open invitation and CNN had even agreed to do it live on Larry King. No takers.

Second, the fellow that was a so-called controlled demolition expert. The graphs they showed were completely irrelevant. There was no proper explanation of them nor was there any time line shown for them. There is video evidence of the very camera that was set on the buildings shaking in the seconds prior to the collapse.

While I must say that this is probably the fairest mainstream doc I have seen air on the CBC or the History Channel, (not that I would assign either any credibility to begin with) it still only scratches the surface.

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Linda | Toronto | Posted November 29, 2009 03:42 AM

Blanchett lied when he said there was no freefall in WTC 7's collapse, this is a crucial and verifiable point that proves WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Freefall can only occur if all the structural elements have been removed simultaniously, that cannot be achieved through fire or through one columns failure. The only mechanism that can achieve this is precision engineered controlled demolition techniques.

Freefall for 2.25 seconds, or approximately 8 stories, occured early in the collapse of WTC 7.

THIS IS OFFICIALLY RECOGNISED, so why was Blanchett allowed to say freefall didn't occur without challenge?

Blind Freddy can see WTC 7 was an implosion, and now thank's to this CBC programme so can millions of Canadians, well done.

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at ease | | Posted November 28, 2009 09:11 PM

Thank you for airing another hit piece on 9/11. Like all the others, you portray the Truth Movement as a bunch of crazies. No worries. Some will see through your smoke screen and become curious enough to start looking at the evidence of controlled demolition.

The 5th Estate video has Richard Gage AIA talking about the free fall of WTC 7 while showing the south tower collapse. Later they show Mr. Gage talking about the free fall acceleration of WTC 7 and then cut to Brent Blanchard saying the trade Towers did not fall at free fall speed. This is intended to make people think Mr. Gage is talking about the Trade Towers and an internationally recognized demolitions expert is refuting what Richard Gage AIA has just said.

That is FRAUD!

Fraud: something that is intended to deceive people

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Daniel M. | | Posted November 28, 2009 07:55 PM

For a crime scene, of this magnitude, and the loss of three thousand plus lives, it is strange it was immediately off limits to investigators/police, and the cleanup began almost immediately. This is ludicrous!. A holdup at the corner gas bar has yellow crime scene tape around it longer. Also there are so many unanswered questions, the authorities should be willing to go to great depths to get ALL the facts, and answers. As long as one question remains outstanding, there will always be uncertainty, and right now there are hundreds of unanswered questions which the officials have not addressed, but chose to cover up ...

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David Moore | | Posted November 28, 2009 06:52 PM

The crux of the matter for me is the temperature of the building fires and the melting of the structural steel. I have an engineering background and, although metallurgy is not my field, it has seemed to me from the outset very unlikely that the fires, fueled by jet fuel (essentially kerosene), (or whatever in the case of building 7) burning only orange in colour and obviously not going to complete combustion as evidenced by the black smoke plumes, could melt the structural steel to such a complete, simultaneous and symmetrical collapse. Even with the impact damage, the differences between the likely fire temperatures and the working temperatures of the steel seem miles apart. The symmetry of all 3 of the collapses is particularly troubling to me when considering the official explanation and how unevenly what heat there was, was distributed across the floor plan of the buildings. Other steel frame buildings elsewhere have burned longer and hotter without structural failure. I just don't buy it that the only steel structures ever to fall from fire, did so in this one place on this one day. ...

For now I think the conclusion for rational thinking people is obvious, psychopaths run the world. Likely this is nothing new and the best one can do is to be aware that it is so and live as best one can accordingly. ...

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pledius | | Posted November 28, 2009 09:11 AM

The purpose of this documentary is to contain curiosity, to scare people away from a rational understanding of how power operates in our culture.

The producer of the Fifth Estate, Oleh Rumak, accepted the terms put forward by Richard Gage (according to Gage): that he would grant an interview provided the final documentary would include evidence of free-fall, molten metal, iron-rich microspheres, nano-thermite chips, lateral ejections, and pulverized concrete. The documentary spends most of its time obscuring the significance of these issues and trying to encourage naive quests to speak beyond their areas of expertise. Predictably, some comply and voila, you've got yourself a few straw men and a documentary on conspiracy theory! Consequently and ironically, this documentary becomes a demonstration of conspiracy theory.

For instance, Bob McKeown asserts that NIST "found" no traces of explosives. In fact, NIST claimed that it did not "look for" evidence of explosives. Nice work, Bob.

McKeown is a reporter who is well enough informed to know that the passenger Mark Bingham often identified himself to his mother using both names and yet hasn't read Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Griffin's thorough debunking of the Popular Mechanics article which is allowed to stand as the more authoritative scientific account. McKeown doesn't tell us that the evidence for nano-thermite, documented by PhDs in chemistry and physics, passed peer review in a scientific journal while the Popular Mechanics article was a poor hack job. Meanwhile, Griffin appears as a guest! In fact, McKeown took no advantage of Griffin's presence to pursue the real issues involved in 9/11. What terrible journalism!

There is an argument constructed throughout that concludes with the warning, voiced by a demolition "expert" with no relevant expertise -- we had just been introduced to nano-thermite and he knew nothing about it -- that questioning 9/11 compromises America's status in global affairs. Precisely.

Curious viewers will now go elsewhere for real information and analysis. They will learn that the Fifth Estate is not serious journalism. It's sad: as a little Canadian, I'd like the public broadcaster to ask real questions on my behalf. In fact, they close ranks against us.

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WRS | Victoria | Posted November 28, 2009 04:08 AM

... I listened to the uneducated babbling of that "demolition expert" you rounded-up for the usual disinformation segment. Whose decision was it to conveniently slip that "testimony" in and why was his nonsense intentionally placed within the last twenty minutes of footage. Unfortunately for Canadians, it seems Goebbels' spirit is alive and well in mainstream media.

Just a suggestion, but why not follow up with some journalism of the investigative variety. Perhaps you could start with the melting characteristics of steel in the specific fires they were subjected to. Or the longitudinal-compression characteristics of 47 columns, per building, of high-tensile steel; this could be invaluable information.

Come to think about it, if you've ascertained the "Achilles heel" of the story as Building 7 then why not devote the majority of the show to it? If fires did take down WTC-7, why did the leaseholder, Larry Silverstein, use a common demolition phrase when he insisted that "the order was given to pull it" And why no mention of what was contained within Building 7? I suppose it must be a nightmare trying to squeeze all the facts in between the evasive corporate onslaught of subliminal imagery.
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"The truth" becomes mainly a tool used to fight others ...

The value of such "truth" comes from winning that fight.

Thus 9/11 is symbolic of all perpetual propaganda wars.

THE BASIC PROBLEM CONTINUES TO BE THAT
REALITY IS ORGANIZED LIES AND ROBBERIES.

That is the deeper truth, that those who are the best
at being dishonest and violent, in order to run their
systems of organized frauds & robberies, control us,
and 9/11 was just another one of their publicity stunts.

A new investigation of 9/11 should be a good idea ...

However, it could take place in the context of some sort
of violent revolution, following collapses into civil war.

THERE ARE NO REASONABLE DOUBTS THAT THE COLLAPSE
OF WTC BUILDING 7 MUST HAVE BEEN SOME CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION, & THAT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME SORT
OF INSIDE JOB, AND ONE ONLY HAS TO LOOK AT
THE LIST OF THE OCCUPANTS OF BUILDING 7
TO SEE WHO WERE THOSE "INSIDERS" ...

Blair T. Longley  — Posted on December 2, 2009 08:03 PM

Dear CBC,

thanks for broadcasting the truth about 9/11 crime done by the cruel faction of the USA administration.

But you forgot to mention many points that prove that this was indeed an inside job by FBI:

1. Just before the event, why all the gold reseves were moved in trucks at off-duty times from the base of the twin towers to some other secret place?

2. Why no single jew was killed in the event (except the one jew visitor who couldn't be informed by Israeli intelligence) despite the fact that jews made up the majority workforce in financial towers?

3. Why Building #7 crumbled down just after awhile same day despite being quite far away, (leaving other buildings in btw). It was also a controlled demolition.

4. Why no independent inquirer/repoter/forensenic experts were allowoed to inspect the debris from the mess? Why all of the debris moved to unknown and hidden place?

5. Why the owner of the twin tower got the insurance policy changed few weeks or days ago to include the act of terrorism, hence he pocketed all the claim money and laughed his way to home?

6. Why Muslims were made escape goats and made to suffer the humilition of this accusation?
despite of any vaild proven evidence? They should be paid an apology by the USA.

7. Why Bush and Osama bin Laden have business relationships in oil and other ventures? And why Laden had top-secret meetings with Bush Administration just before this event? (i dont remember but Bush might be in the meeting, that needs to be investigated).

8. If there is an iota bit of sense of honesty left in American officials they should accept the facts. Otherwise their credibility is already being lost its ground day by day around the world. Other nations ie, Canada etc should stand up for the truth and refuse to participate in the cruel lies of US administration. Otherwise they will also stand the chance of losing their crediblity and the world will be more chaotic and fascist.

thanx


Pacifist World  Toronto — Posted on December 2, 2009 07:17 PM

Thank you CBC for your balanced and informative report on the alternative theories. I think it was pretty clear that these theories don't hold much water. I have previously researched this subject a number of times (ie. after Loose Change) and have come to similar conclusions that there is no doubt this was a terrorist attack using airplanes.

Now for the real question: Why are truthers so easily duped and why will they go to any lengths to believe stories that are obviously not true?

Bryce  Alberta — Posted on December 2, 2009 06:54 PM

I think the fact that the show aired is a step in the right direction. But in order for Bob to have uncovered even more evidence, one has to look no further than the evidence presented in any of Alex Jones' films like: The Obama Deception, 9/11 The Road to Tyranny, Endgame, and his latest, The Fall of the Republic. All of these films are full of real hard evidence of the Global Elite, essentially runned by the corrupt nature of the Federal Reserve Bank in the US (all the G-8 countries are essentially arms of this bank) being a private banking cartel runned by families. The only reason there is Debt in the world is because of the very bankers who illegally conspired on Jekyll Island in 1910. And in 1913, the Federal Reserve was born and no more federal than Federal Express. I might add that each and every dollar that the Fed prints (through the department of Treasury) is loaned back the US at interest. That's right, the country borrows money from a private bank, a bank that does not have to exist in the first place.

There were two Presidents that tried to stop these criminals and thier ambitions and they both paid dearly with their lives. Can you name them? That's right, Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy, the last un-corrupted and non-puppet President the US had. Currently, many still see the conspiracy and deceit behind the Fed. Namely, Ron Paul who has recently begun a petition achieving over 280 key signatures to audit the Fed after it's near 100 years of secrecy. You bring down the Fed, in my opinion, and give the Bank back to people (which they can constitutionally do) you will clean up 90% of the worlds's problems. Go Ron Paul!

The Banking Elite's goal is total control of the people but how do you get free people in the US and the free world, for instance, to begin giving up their civil liberties and freedoms? They will if they are in fear of something. 9/11 was nothing more than a staged event to perpetuate 2 illegal wars. These wars were to gain control over middle eastern oil but also to begin the war on their own people to submit to having their civil liberties removed. Great evidence behind my argument lies in a film where Alex Jones interviews the late Aaron Russo, the famous Hollywood Director. Aaron tells the truth about his prior friendship with one of the Rockefellers and explains why this is all being covered up. One might read any of Jim Marrs or G. Edward Griffen's books as well to better educate themselves into the secret workings of Government (namely The Trilateral Commission, The Council on Foreign Relations, and the Builderberg Group) and the world, the former being a mere puppit of the international Banking cartels. Their goal is to have everyone computer chipped, all banking information and personal information will be on these chips, and if you protest, your chip is then turned off. These words are straight from Nicholas Rockefeller himself, a former friend who told his secrets to Aaron Russo. The Rockefeller family are the founders of the CFR and largely involved in the Globalist movement for one world government and global population reduction. If you don't believe their ambtions are one world government, or the "New World Order", you need to look no further than it's 4 predecessors: The African Union, The Asian Union, The European Union, and as of 2005, the North American Union thanks to George W. Bush signing the North American Agreement with the President of Mexico and the Canadian Prime Minister. If you don't believe their human eugenics ambitions, have a look at the Georgia Guidestones. It's amazing this (the signing of the NA Union) was never really covered at all by the Establishment Media. Hmmmm, not to me. We'll see if the civil liberty of free speach is adhered to here when my comments are either edited or released as they were written.

It's not just 9/11. The CIA's fingerprints are all over Pearl Harbour, the Oklahoma City Bombings, the 7/7 Bombings in London, and many more. History repeats itself, folks, and you need to look no further than Hitler buring down his own Parliament buildings, and blaming it on Communist Terrorists in order to pass his, coindidentally, Anti-terrorist laws. And look what his movement was about.

Think about this. More people die from the Flu every year than terroristic attacks. Terrorism is a myth designed to remove civil liberties and to begin to have full control of the people. It also is great for the banking elite because it is a war than can never be won. It goes on indefinately reaping more and more profit. And it begs for more attacks in the future in order to insubordinate people even further. Both Zeitgeist films by Peter Joseph offer even more evidence as to my discussion above.

Lastly, please choose to educate yourself before believing what you are told by the establishment media, for 90% of the North American Media is owned by ten companies and the Heads of such companies attend the Secret and Treasonistic Builderberg meetings every single year.

In the name of freedom,

Brent

Brent  — Posted on December 2, 2009 06:52 PM

I have always thought something was wrong with the official story and think a new study has two take place,and when I look into past events that brought us into ww1 and ww2 this is the same thing. I would also point that my computer gave me alot of trouble trying to watch you report. THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HUMMM.

gary christensen  — Posted on December 2, 2009 04:15 PM

Thank you CBC for trying to shed some light on 9/11 .
Unfortunately , you forgot to mention about Larry Silverstein , the guy who bought the WTC buildings six weeks before 9/11 . He made alot of money from the insurance policies on those buildings . Miraculously , he had a doctor's appointment that morning and missed his usual breakfast at Windows on the World !
You did not mention the three sets of wargames happening that morning , which left the east coast so vulnerable.
One of the wargames involved a "simulation" of terrorists hi-jacking planes and flying them into buildings.
You did not mention Project for a New American Century which was signed by many Neo-Cons in Bush's Administration. The chilling document says their agenda would be a long time coming unless there was a terrible and catalyzing event - like another Pearl Harbor.

You forgot to mention the Billions of dollars in No-bid contracts given to Bush - friendly and Cheney-friendly companies like Halliburton , KBR , Blackwater ,Dyncorp ,
Northrop Grumman , Raytheon ,Lockheed Martin , etc.

You forgot to mention how Marvin Bush , George W. Bush's brother , sat on the board of Securacom . Securacom was in charge of security for the WTC buildings and Dulles airport . Remember Dulles airport?

Joel  Vancouver — Posted on December 2, 2009 03:59 PM

Some feedback for:
dragoneyes001 | Vancouver | Posted November 30, 2009 08:42 PM

I'll rebut your points as you've laid them out:

1) Even the government's 9/11 (C)Omission Report or NIST didn't speculate about the structural damage done by the plane impacting the building's inside. The fact that the building stood and the plane was shattered means that the building was stronger. Had the core column matrix structure been sufficiently compromised, it would have fallen upon impact, just like a chopped down tree starts a slow swing to the ground after the last critical woodchip is removed.

2) "a few thousand foam seats" ? How many people do you think fit in the plane? A plane does not have thousands of foam seats.
And where does this nonsense come from that few cubic meters of foam will suddenly melt steel when set ablaze. Foam has no special high-heat burning properties. And...if anything, all materials inside the plane cabin are highly flame retardent.

3) "Transformers on every 3rd or 4th floor"? Reference please ?
Even the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory) doesn't mention explosions caused by "electrical rooms blowing up".
100% conjecture on your part. This is mentioned no where in anyone's version of 9/11, except yours.

4) Where did the engines go? One was spotted on the street, after exiting the building. So that one could not have worked through the core columns "like a pinball" as you say. Where the engines ended up is interesting to know, but not linked to how the building's structure failed

Pentagon:

1) How can you say that a plane would have little chance of doing massive damage, when on the WTC we saw the very same planes slice straight through load bearing structural steel. I haven't done the math, but it appears that about 50% of the WTC side walls were solid steel, and about 50% was window. Like a hot knife through butter. The pentagon was left unscathed.

2) "The wings folded back" ?? Huh? Why did they not fold back at the WTC ? The silhouette of the plane is very visible on the towers.

3) Missile ? The Fifth Estate documentary doesn't mention a missile. The 9/11 truth movement is split on the missile argument, and most are leaning away from any conjecture. The mathematics of the hole in the pentagon wall just doesn't add up. And the unscorched wreckage on the lawn seems to be planted. However, the evidence is contradictory, and eye-witness accounts (which have varying levels of dependability) seem to have an oral history of seeing something flying.

Government:

1) Generally speaking, the 9/11 Truth Movement doesn't say "Bush did it". The point made is "it wasn't 19 guys with box-cutters". Richard Gage said it very well in the documentary: "9/11 didn't happen the way were told it happened".

2) Agreed.


3) Cover up.
Yes... but MOST of the cover-up is voluntary. The media was likely never instructed what to cover. The media has a history of self-censorship. The media will never admit there is a media blackout, because they define that by a 'policy'.

4) The evidence of Israelis/Jews having foreknowledge and not showing up for work on 9/11/01 of very questionable pedigree. The 9/11 Truth Movement does not lean on this at all.

dragoneyes001 - I think its time for you to do a bit of homework.

Lisa  — Posted on December 2, 2009 11:23 AM

I wonder why if people who do not believe the governments version of 9/11 are called truthers why do we not call the governments version liars?

Mik Mann  — Posted on December 2, 2009 11:22 AM

$2.3 trillion was stolen from the Pentagon by Rumsfeld or a worker for Rumsfeld. That money paid a lot of people to lie, make fake video & pictures. Most of the people involved in this whole debaucle are witches, witches-in-training and punks.

Ann Coulter, daoist witch, stood in burning coals between 2 bodybuilding masons, rolled her eyes back into her head, summoning earth's heat to send fireballs to the WTC towers (already laced with explosives) while groups of witches gathered in downtown Manhattan chanting for demonic power.

How I learned all of this is a long story, but I learned much more. Do you know the biggest revival in the last few decades has been American witchcraft. Fione Horne writes who they are in her book, "Pop! Goes the Witch." Find it on Amazon.com.

I was a victim of the Cappellettis. My niece & cousin are practicing witches, who were working in Las Vegas selling love potions to girls at casino pools to catch husbands.

Wonder why there are so many divorces? Could it be that many women are trapping husbands with love potions? I am from a town in Pennsylvania where I have learned many girls used witchcraft to trap men.

ld  — Posted on December 2, 2009 09:51 AM

Of course it was an inside job. No question there.
My question is, why did Bob McCewan look like a moron with his facial expressions. I expected more from you Bob.

dave cassidy  whitby — Posted on December 2, 2009 09:41 AM

Well I saw your program last night,listened to both sides..A good presentation,but I find the argument the same old tune.I notice the members of the truth movement are young being led by older intellects like Richard Gage and Ray Griffin.I know facts of the events that occured that day,so I doubt this will not be posted,for a very good reason,to ensure the accused gets a fair trial.
It is not rocket science to understand that fire weakens steel,blacksmiths have been doing it for years.They can bend it,shape it,poke holes in it,even cut it once it becomes redhot placing it on an anvil and using a cold chisel and a hammer.Gunsmtihs weaken steel to engrave receivers,and to drill into the steel by using heat to weaken the steel.Cold steel can also be snapped using a brake press,which uses hydraulics to place enough pressure on the steel untill metal fatigue is reached.
What happened on 9/11/01 was the exact same thing.Fire,heat,thermal expansion, gravity, weakening steel,the weight of the building acting like a hammer and chisel slicing through the steel,crushing everything following the path of least resistance towards the ground.
This was caused by terrorist on those planes. There was no thermite,nanothermite bombs or inside job. The truth is right in front of their faces but some refuse to accept that steels integrity can be affected by fire. Why do they put fire proofing on the columns? So wait for KSMs trial.

Francis Simon  elsipogtog,NB — Posted on December 2, 2009 08:33 AM

when a caring, decent citizen recognizes that there is indeed a problem, he or she will be compelled to "fix" the problem (ie GET INVOLVED!). This takes real courage and fortitude. It's a shame we have so many cowards in both our citizenry and our media (or maybe it's because they simply can't be bothered to investigate). As others have said, thanks to the 5th Estate for scratching the surface, but more depth of this subject is needed.

G O'Shay  — Posted on December 2, 2009 08:30 AM

Thank you CBC & fifth estate for airing the documentary a second time. It would be great now that you have scratched the surface to go deep and try to uncover what really happened that day. The official conspiracy story can not be true, since it is based on one coincident after another.

I would strongly suggest you talk to / interview the Japanese politician Yukihisa Fujita, the former assistant German defense minister Andreas Von Bulow, ex-British Cabinet Minister Michael Meacher and ask them what they think about 9/11.

Also I would encourage you to contact Kurt Sonnenfeld official videographer for the U.S. government, he was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes. (He still has the tapes and lives in exile)

Here is an explosive story to uncovered - have the courage to change the world.

WRS

WRS  Victoria — Posted on December 2, 2009 04:21 AM

Im wondering why my post which was full of lots of factual representations has been censored by the CBC. Its been two days now and I dont see it.

C'mon CBC - what are you scared of - last time I checked we still live in a free country. But things like this make me want to think otherwise.

Post my Post.

Aman  Edmonton — Posted on December 2, 2009 03:38 AM

Here’s the fact Jack

One building disintegrates into rubble:
That’s a fluke.
Two buildings disintegrate:
That’s a near statistical improbability.
Three buildings:
That’s controlled demolition.
Period.

Reality Check

Hate to tell you this:
Santa Claus doesn’t exist
The Tooth Fairy is your Mum
And 9/11 was an inside job.

Sorry to disturb your comfort
The truth is hard to swallow
But it ultimately sets you free.

The Courage to See

We see what we want to see
We believe what we want to believe
Sometimes we see things
That we don’t want to believe
But then we don’t believe it
Do we?


- Stephen Badhwar

Stephen Badhwar  Whitehorse — Posted on December 2, 2009 03:22 AM

Interesting document, although information is given, it is tough to jump to conclusions, however it is important to keep our minds open basedon many questions asked by both parties.The US and Canada are great places to visit and a great places to live. We should be thankfull for living in such great countries, other countries are starving to death and have no food or water. What is done in the past is done, lets just remember those loved ones lost on that date and move on with our lives.

I do have an open mind but there are many conspiracies not proven to be true and it wil probably be tough to prove for many years to come because there is no HARD EVIDENCE. Until someone comes out and amits it and has hard evidence, we will never find out. Lets be proud of the great country we live in including the US and Canada and we should be lucky to be living in great countries that provide us with water, shelter and a land of opportunities :-)

Thank you US and Canada for giving us all opportunities to succeed and be who we are today !!!! :-)

God Bless those who risked their lives to try to save those lost on Sept 11 and God Bless their family members.

I think CBC is doing a great job in being fair in all their documents including this episode. I can see why you are best source for media in all of Canada :-) Keep up the great work!!!!1

jayjay  toron — Posted on December 2, 2009 02:42 AM

Telling lies is what the american and all governments do, but a conspiracy on this kind of level is so vast the unlikelyhood of a total cover, up to me out ways everything else "truth seekers" could throw out. Trying not to sound like someone that allows them self to be spoon fed the truth at first glancebecause there are blaring questions like the cell phone calls and the fact that architecs and engineers will be at odds for a long time over the physics of the collapse.The presence of Thermite and now nano-thermite is something that cannot be brushed aside.
Any theory that promotes the idea that planes were swaped and passengers were moved on the ground is ludacris. However the US defecit is so deep that central banking figures who in the end truly run the country may look at an opportunity to put the nation under a state of fear, decreasing privacy rights and increasing control.

Jared  Edmonton — Posted on December 2, 2009 02:32 AM

You did not manage to answer your own question.

Eight years after 9/11, why are there growing doubts about the official record of that day?

To date, Canada has spent over 9 billion dollars on a war based on a conspiracy theory that Osama bin Laden and his gang attacked America on Sept 11 2001.

Still we don't have Osama bin Laden, however we do have two international wars, reoccurring economic crisis, rolling blackouts, SARS, SWINE FLU, AFRICANIZED KILLERS BEES FROM MEXICO, and of course, cut backs and lay offs.

Can you please run a story on Michael Ruppert. He's was talking about the truth of 9/11 before there was even a 9/11 Truth movement. There's a new documentary out titled Collapse, it's a great movie about him. First watch Truth and lies of 9/11.

It's so disingenuous of you to remark, "So many conspiracy theories, so little time". Who do you think listens to crap about 9/11? Me or the rest of my generation? They couldn't give a rat's ass about this stuff. You condescend to me? You could say, Lady Diana was behind 9/11 on your show, and tomorrow most of your viewers would come to me, to tell me. Because I'm the only one who will give a crap about what happened on 9/11.

you follow?

why not send up a reporter on an high altitude flight and try to make a cellphone call? Isn't it your job to decipher fact from fiction?

Inside job or not, what were the motives?

signed,
truther9009435789

i care that the history books reflect the truth.

Sumwoman  Vacouver — Posted on December 2, 2009 02:10 AM

Thank you, Fifth Estate, for having the vision and courage to tackle this issue in a way no other mainstream media has.

There are a great many convincing and documented facts that support the notion that 9/11 was, indeed, an inside job that this investigation overlooked.

But, in the broad scope, your report remains a brave and ground breaking departure from the sad silence of other mainstream media.

So thanks and bravo CBC!

Thanks to you, my jilted faith in our western media has now jumped a full notch above the "gimme a break you fear-mongering, celebrity gossip obsessed, lowest-common-denominator, swill spilling, ambulance chasers" mark.

Christopher Raymond  — Posted on December 2, 2009 02:08 AM

It is sad to see so many questions that have not been answered. I believe this is a start of something really bad like we are heading into a deep hole of darkness. One simple thing like the tapes from those stores of something hitting the Pentagon, show them to us, why confiscate something that could prove a plane hit the pentagon? Thousand of questions have not been looked at. How can this be anything close to a democracy with freedom of speech? And a government of the people-for the people-by the people.

farlie payter  — Posted on December 2, 2009 02:06 AM

Thank You CBC for this program...
I am Happy that CBC has not forgotten about 9/11, but I am disappointed with how Fifth Estate has framed this issue. Too much time was spent avoiding the most important evidence & questions about 9/11 and the "War on Terror" by focusing on irrelevant talking points instead. Fortunately, the Truth will stand on it's own, & no amount of B.S. will make it go away. The more the "Official Conspiracy Theorists" spew their Propaganda, the more they discredit themselves.
The Truth will come out...
If Fifth Estate wants to redeem themselves,
I would STRONGLY recommend they do a very serious & unbiased Scientific report on the CLIMATEGATE Scandal & the whole Global Government Carbon Tax Climate Fraud Scam of the Century... Follow the Money, & you will find the entities behind who has set the agenda for over 100 years of our recent History, & what their plan for the Future is. See www.green-agenda.com
and www.iceagenow.com

Cheers, Chris :^ )

Chris Stuart  — Posted on December 2, 2009 01:44 AM

One of the comments on this page, by a certain John Alexandria, claims that he personally witnessed the plane involved at the Pentagon crash site. I am certain that the FBI would be interested in the only such witness, as it would otherwise appear that they were unable to find any single witness to any low-flying plane in what is very highly restricted DC airspace. I would also suggest that the large number (over 70) of video recordings secured by NSA agents within 15 minutes of the presumed 'attack', from hotels, intersections, service stations and other businesses throughout the area might easily settle the question, but of course, in the interest of whatever passes for truth in the United States (and Canada), these tapes have never and probably will never be released.

R S Westera  — Posted on December 2, 2009 01:26 AM

My gas stove has been in daily operation since 1987. Daily operation. Its flames are exceptionally well supplied with oxygen. They burn an almost transparent blue with no trace of cooler orange flames... like those seen at the WTC.

Strangely, the grates above the burners--cast iron grates, not ASTM E119 spec heat resistant steel--have yet to weaken or collapse in spite of some very heavy loads placed on them.

I have been cooking with the same cast iron pots, again on an almost daily basis, since 1975. They have yet to weaken or collapse in thousands upon thousands of hours of exposure to temperatures as high or higher than those in the WTC. They too are simple cast iron, not ASTM E119 heat resistant steel like that used in the WTC.

Anyone who owns a gas stove or a gas barbecue grill should have the sense to know that fire did not weaken or collapse the WTC towers.

Only one question needs to be asked here. Who profited from the demolition of the towers? Bin Laden and al qaeda? Uhmmm. Think again.

John Drew  — Posted on December 2, 2009 01:00 AM

What I would like to know is how do buildings designed to take the impact of a plane fail twice in one day. The plane that crashed into the field, where was the debris? Have you ever seen a plane crash without debris.
The plane that crashed into the Pentagon, how does a Boeing 757 a plane that is 38m wide and 13.5m tall make a perfect circular hole 5m in diameter in a building and leave no debris - no trace of a plane at all. Show me a picture and I may believe it happened but no one can produce those photo's because they don't exist.
The US government lies to its population just as ours does to us. The difference is they have vast amounts of man power and money to pull something like this off.
I commend the 5th Estate for broadcasting this story it is about time. But unfortunately there is more to this story that just the twin towers.

Mark Quesnelle  — Posted on December 1, 2009 11:34 PM

Bob 'Smirky' McKeown:

Here are some true "EXPERTS" that you can contact to understand and learn what the "TRUTH' means to them.

-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY

"An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past"

"Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission actually stated the they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!"
Fire Fighters for 911truth

Come on Fifth Estate...you can do it!

Maybe you can actually change the sad state of world affairs. You people @ FE have a platform and must try.

A life long CBC Fan

D. Bischoff  BC — Posted on December 1, 2009 11:32 PM

EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!

By the amount of comments on this documentary, all going opposite directions (left/right, up/down, hypothesis/antithesis), we fail to remember who controls the media and the sole purpose of controlling the media. (at this point, if you think CBC is an 'honest' and 'non-partisan' "FREE PRESS" that did a 'great job in this production then save yourself the time of reading the rest of my post)

The events of 9/11 were not about oil, heroine, war, NWO, or anything else we are pumped up to believe from both the 9/11 grass roots and major media handlers. Both sides of the 9/11 truth movement pump the same toxic mantras of either HOPE(Gage) - of a new investigation from a HOPEFUL new US administration or FEAR(Jones) that we're all gonna die - because the same people that took years to plan 9/11 at the same time was creating the opposition! (What? you think that is too far fetched? Remember if you believe the Official Theory or the "UN"-Official Theory you are still a 'Conspiracy Theorist'!!!)

But most of all we fail to see the actual problem - the historically known money handlers, and their direct involvement in POLITICS, RELIGION, EDUCATION, TERRORISM, BUSINESS (of course) and the most important, inFORMing the public opinion by controlling the media.

9/11 was a hard-core distraction from the banking elite to make us further away from understanding the roll of (fake) money and monetary control, the historical evidence of which people have eluded nations to hand over all individual liberty and creativity through fear or trust, both equally a form of manipulation.

There were only 3 forms of control,
1) Coercive/Physical - Military (force)
2)Economic/Monetary - Money (illusion of safety)
3)Mental/Spiritual - Religion (fear)

Unfortunately #2 and #3 merged (in NAFTA and the WTO) to create a benign dictatorship which now controls the military.

Enough said, just YouTube "Zan the Man" and don't take it personally. Never forget what institutions formed your current ideas and gave you the good grades to cary on a 'good paying job' in complete ignorance of the #1 act of terrorism in history - the intentional misinformation of money and illicit control of money! Don't take that personally either.

Go look at the evidence from "9/11 Missing Links" and you will eliminate the sore neck from the never ending 9/11 tennis match and realize the synthesis. Those are tough questions people like Gage(left) and Jones(right) won't ever speak of... (if you can control the conditioned response you have been taught to produce)

You are the answer, not who inFORMs your creativity. Your energy is priceless - money isn't (eg. Zimbabwe 1 Trillion Dollar Bill) You will never see order, love and justice if you first don't believe in your own power to produce order, love and justice. And its not about blame, it about the future. And the future is NOW.

Remember.... "Time is Money!"

clever  NY — Posted on December 1, 2009 11:26 PM

Thank you CBC, for airing this episode. I am so glad there are more and more Americans each and every day waking up to the reality around them.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time...but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time

Jerome  Toronto — Posted on December 1, 2009 11:00 PM

I cannot believe the professor (Dewdney) at the University of Western Ontario who insisted that one of the phone calls had to be faked because a man introduced himself as "Mark Bingham" (or something like that) to his own mother, saying that this kind of introduction is obviously a slip up by an imposter. The report then told to professor that Mr. Bingham's mother said that her son did indeed say talk to her like this.
Bingham just takes his mistake as proof that the faked call was better than he'd originally thought.
Ridiculous.

The problem I have with conspiracy theories is that they don't offer any plausible alternative hypothesis.

I see the comment
"Follow the money..."

What's that tell us? It's not evidence of anything.

Margie96  — Posted on December 1, 2009 10:44 PM

I thought this show was well done, given CBC's constraint of having to keep us entertained as much as informed.

Here is my take;
1 - The Bushes got too involved with the Saudi's and especially the Bin Laden family. This perverted their judgment.
2 - The US dependence on Saudi Arabia oil and money to sustain their economy blinded them to the terrorist threat and caused them to make some bad judgments.
3 - Yes it was a terrorist attack. No, the Bush administration did not willfully carry this act out. Yes their are weaknesses in the administrations and truthers arguments alike. No, we will never know the whole truth. Yes, the Bush Administration is covering up, as would most people in power if you allowed this to happen.
4 - The Saudis were allowed to leave because they probably threatened to take down the US economy if not.
5 - Yes, the Bush administration used the event to their advantage and to further their agenda.

As a manager, on a micro-scale, I have witnessed numerous "conspiracy" theories from workers to management, not one of which was true. (Not that we were blameless either). You can selectively thread evidence to say many things, but seldom the truth.

We need to have a healthy suspicion of those in authority, but taking it to extremes does great harm to a great nation - whether Canada or the US eh.

Dennis T  Saskatoon — Posted on December 1, 2009 10:05 PM

This was the best documentary that I have seen from the mainstream media regarding 9/11. It didn't start with the premise that the truther's were wrong, crazy or in need of serious psychotherapy. It was only an hour show so that leaves a lot of ground to still cover. Hopefully, the responses the CBC receives will encourage them to do follow-up programs like this one in the future.

tanabear  — Posted on December 1, 2009 08:18 PM

Dear Fifth Estate:

There seems to be frustration from outside of Canada that people can't watch "The Unofficial Story" from your website. Perhaps you only allow certain IP ranges due to limited bandwidth.

To overcome this problem, you might wish to refer citizens from other countries, many of whom are deeply concerned about this issue, to one of the many other websites on the Internet that is currently showing it.

A google search will lead to these. I have not listed any in case there are copyright issues involved.

Thank you so much for the wonderful job of finally bringing 9/11 into mainstream media focus for Canada and the world!

Elizabeth Woodworth  — Posted on December 1, 2009 07:52 PM

Roughly 75-80% of the commenters here believe, as I do, that the "official story" of 9/11 has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. This is most encouraging because the documentary purported that only 30% of Canadians are skeptical of the "official story". How pathetic that so few Canadians have had the curiosity and the courage to dig deeper into what really happened on 9/11. I can only hope that this documentary will stir something in some more Canadians and send them off to search for the truth. Thank you CBC for starting the ball rolling, even if it wasn't the most perfect push off. There needs to be a thorough, independent and honest investigation of 9/11 and since the U.S. government is unlikely to do this then we have to hope that the CBC and other mainstream media outlets will do what our so-called democratic society expects them to do. Investigate and do not allow this vital event in our recent history to be buried beneath a load of deception and cover-up. Remember we sent our young men and women into war in Afghanistan because of 9/11 and our reluctance to say "no" to our southern neighbour.

M. R.  Canada — Posted on December 1, 2009 07:47 PM

It is amazing the extent to which most people will violently resist the destruction of their own belief systems when challenged. I have been experiencing this for over 6 years FROM people I try to convince that 9/11 was executed by elements within the US Gov't.

I had some reservations the very day this tragic CRIME occured - but reluctantly believed the official story AT FIRST!. I saw the pasport on the street story/Attas'face in an ATM camera withdrawing MONEY before boarding a plane on a "suicide" mission(to spend where, pray tell?) Heard some these "fanatics" were in strip clubs and eating pork the day before/that box-cutters were their weapons of choice etc.Saw 19 photos within 48 hrs on TV...

Then I read an article in the TO Star by Michele Landsberg mid 2003 that featured a 44 min documentary by Barrie Zwicker (Canadian journalist with balls!) Then I read and viewed anything I could have put my hand on - up to this time. If anyone really looks deep into the subject of 9/11, he/she,using just common sense would discover that nothing fits, nothing jives with the Official(LIE)Story!

I believe there should be much more parts to this piece. When the 5th Estate does Part 11, it should interview former Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia Mckinney. Ask her why she quit the Dems and ran for the Green Party. Current Congressman Dennis Kucinich. GOP Dr Ron Paul. Eyewitness William Rodriguez - custodian at the WTC for 20 yrs. Mike Ruppert. Nafeez Ahmed.Interview pilots from : Pilotsfor911truth..

The people who executed 9/11 seemed to have also "executed" our ablility to question them. That includes the media - moreso the Corporate US media who is in lockstep with its' Gov't and who will never feature this piece on US networks.

Outan  Brampton — Posted on December 1, 2009 06:04 PM

First I want to thank CBC for giving this very important topic some coverage but it could have been better. The crackpot theories of AK Dewdney about planes being flown into the ocean and painting up duplicate planes are ludicrous.

I wish they interviewed some 9/11 family members like Bob McIlvaine and the Jersey Girls. CBC could have also interviewed the hundreds of high level government officials who question the official story found at patriotsquestion911.com

TheParadigmShift  — Posted on December 1, 2009 05:10 PM

Hi. It's me again, about that Davin Coburn interview. I just stumbled upon a third piece of the puzzle half an hour ago. Honest. Until half an hour ago, I was totally unaware that someone had actually followed up on Davin's promise to provide additional evidence concerning the DNA of the hijackers.

Reaching the Research Editor of Popular Mechanics' Debunking 9/11 Myths, the caller very politely asked Davin for the promised update. The response he gets is pretty damning evidence that Popular Mechanics does not stand behind what it publishes.

The brief phone call is available at

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0uVwS544Rg

It would be nice if Bob McKeown gave a quick call to some of the nice folks he met at PopMech and pursue the question that never got answered by their own Reserach Editor, in spite of his promise to do so.

Raymond   Montréal — Posted on December 1, 2009 04:58 PM

We can't even watch this video ... we get a message saying not available if you aren't in Canada. Any idea how we can watch it??

Debby  Wisconsin — Posted on December 1, 2009 02:46 PM

Thank you, CBC, for having finally published my comment on Nov. 30 at 6:22 AM. The readers of this forum can now begin to appreciate the level of seriousness with which Popular Mechanics conducted its so-called investigation. Unfortunately, the best part of Charles Goyette's interview with Davin Coburn was in the second segment for which there is no apperent link on the YouTube page of Part I. That is why, on my first attempt, which you chose not to publish, I had clearly indicated the URL's of both parts I and II.

As it seems to be against the rules to post a complete URL on this page, may I be so bold as to try again to provide the readers of this forum with a way to access the second part of the interview by resorting to a devious trick.

To access part II, one needs to copy/paste the following :

watch?v=pb49MfDrwOo

immediately after youtube.com/ in the address field.

Thanks, CBC, for having published this follow-up. It will have been your contribution to dispel the falsehoods propagated by Popular Mechanics.

Raymond   Montréal — Posted on December 1, 2009 02:31 PM

Finally, there is an investigative reporting look at this tragedy, albeit 9 long years later. I am not a conspiracy theorist. Rather I am a concerned individual who agrees that there are substantial questions remaining that have yet to be intelligably put to rest or simply overlooked altogether.

The questions are reasonable, promoted by reasonable and well educated individuals and groups. The American and allied forces actions that immediately resulted from this destruction, on the other hand, lacks all rationale in the face of these questions.

Thank you for the story.

Brad Wiebe  — Posted on December 1, 2009 12:43 PM

Uhhhh Hello? Yeah is this thing workin'?
Look I ain't that smart but it seems to me that finding nanothermate in dust samples taken from the WTC area could be the normal result of them planes smashin' into the buildins? Like I wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions or anything....

Mike  Brampton — Posted on December 1, 2009 12:37 PM

Your coverage of 9/11 is too little too late.It would take three hours of programs to do it justice and i think no one should hold breath while waiting.Lets face it 9/11truthers a new investigation will never happen.Even if it did the alleged experts like that demo man and popular mechanics parrots would be chief experts and you wouldnt hear any real witnesses like the firemen who courageously entered the building.Any new report would be a damn'd lie just like the first report.But dont give up truthers.What 5th Estate wont say will be known even without their help.Just think of it eight years and this is the best they can do.How long will it take till they cover Al Gores global warming con and the emails of climategate.Maybe "NEVER".

Brad Runyun   Havelock — Posted on December 1, 2009 12:17 PM

When will the CBC admit that the Emperor has no clothes on?

This documentary says: "Maybe he's wearing his new clothes. But an increasing number of people say he's naked. But we, the CBC, can't quite tell if he's wearing clothes or not"


Most of us were duped. The media certainly was, and judging by this episode of TFE, seemingly still is!

Marianne  Vancouver — Posted on December 1, 2009 10:44 AM

buildings falling the way they have from fire damage, I thought I figured out more about physics when I was 8 years old playing with fire.. it scares me how people can only accept information that they can rationalize based on their own life and needs.. the great majority are very opinionated rather then sceptical, I believe its scepticism that brought to us proven facts/theories like the atomic theory, law of gravity etc.. I am skeptical of my belief in the architects and engineers truth movement and richard gage
but his is the one I have the hardest time arguing against however Im no expert , I have to admit there is a terrible amounts of misinformation within the truth movement but richard gages presentation (not CBC's but his own presentation if you care to watch it) is very hard to argue..

Im happy the CBC covered the topic, which opens up the debate for many people who have not seen it yet. Im a little disappointed with the presentation of it all, in fact Im very disappointed. !Im asking people to pay close attention to the cinematography of the film !!! it seems to me that the truthers are always in some sort of shady light or alienating camera angles , these movie cinema aspects should never be accepted into our news agencies .. the old days news looked boring well the information was not .. for those who care this is important !!! I dont know much about the cell phone bits but I can go all over the net and hear thousands of people saying both yes or no .. its starting to scare me how much crap there is ... misinformation is powerful stuff

We would be naive to reject the idea of an impartial investigation by an impartial nation to the subject, even multiple investigations and debates between them as to aquire the truth. this is a important question and Im happy to see people on this page asking about this peticular question not being properly portrayed by so called investgative reporting .. lol isnt this a paradox

people get very emotional about this issue, I have a hard time with mine as well , my general concensous is that the people regardless of what side your on actually care.. its time to properly investigate everything, then continue to investigate the findings and what they could possibly mean .. I care and I know people that dont see eye to ey with me care too so we all care this is common ground not a war

as time progresses I realize journalists on mainstream are unable to give us proper journalism

Im starting to feel like there is so much information truth and lies that anyone can come up with pretty much any conclusion..

we are WITHIN information wars, we dont know who to trust, we know our government cant be trusted they lie campaigning, and alot of things are covered up .. we know the mass media is part of cover ups in controversial stories or improperly cover them using rederick and emotional tactics ( that I might add sometimes feels like a bully from the school yard).. we know there is top secret information, blacked out documents in important issues like JFK assassinations , technology, and a great many things ... we know our friends spewing out ideas are actualy just spewing out ideas they read from some internet article or a news paper that who knows wrote .. possibly with a fake or real name, possibly written authentically with truth or by some agency covering crap up..

the point is that people have to take control together as communities, we have to take our courts laws and everything into account , especially concern about our children's educations.
In all history man kind has strived for personal freedom and/or power over others, these battles will continue well into our grand children's futures and possibly all future.. its time the truth and the powers that be align themselves with human values, its time to realize that an ethical and free society can live with with each other.. man made problems are occuring faster then man is figuring them out and dealing with them properly.. truth movement is a wonderful thing , I know its riddled with lies that help others debunk their credibility but its also riddled with people that care and are credible people that strongly believe in some things being true.. like thermite CBC debunks it with thousands of tons being needed but doesnt really discredit its being there.. why was it there?

this is the confusion we all live with , weather you pick one side or the other, I care for you (I really do) and I hope you care for me, PLEASE lets hold this conversation in a context that we can all assess the truth properly using courts lawyers scientists evidence or lack there of ... if you have substantial evidence bring it forth and debate like rational humans can between these opinions to aquire facts, lets take the leaders on both sides, lets not point and name call lets not slander , lets not discredit anyone unless caught in a deliberate lie !!!and when a diliberate lie is told lets probe it.. lets be human and humane about it!

lets wake up !!! and give the future a chance

Matthew Gregoire  Penticton — Posted on December 1, 2009 07:36 AM


The collapse of World Trade Centre 7 remains the Achilles heel of 9/11.

I have read David Griffin's book on the collapse and it demonstrates that NIST fraudulently ignored and distorted evidence and science to come to a politically correct solution.

Sunder admitted part of the collapse was free-fall acceleration and Gross denied the evidence of molten metal.

David  England — Posted on December 1, 2009 06:48 AM

This 'report' was lacking in so many ways; so much more material should have been covered. I am inspired to see there are more people who question the moronic official story.
It is indeed unfortunate there are such an alarming number of wilfully ignorant people who are afraid of having their cozy worldview influenced in an uncomfortable manner. These types rely on ad hominem attacks against those who question events.

Some items not touched on or questionably handled:

- the fact that there were military drills taking place that very day as a contingency for the event that actually happened - no mention at all.

- numerous witnesses including firemen who say they heard multiple explosions coming from the lower levels - no mention.

- the israelis who were caught that day in a van which had a mural on the side depicting the twin towers with an American Airlines jet flying across them, 9/11 emblazoned on the towers. While being interviewed back in israel, these israelis said they were only there to record the event; how did they know an 'event' was to take place - no mention.

- the official story is offered almost immediately following the event if not partially during it. Very little actual investigating takes place before the whole story is laid out - no mention.

- since when does the crime scene get hauled away before the investigation is complete, if it began at all. I'd have to suggest it must be illegal to compromise the crime scene before the investigation has a chance to start or complete - no mention.

- the fellow in the baseball cap who offered his view re: controlled demolition said the buildings did not fall at free fall speed; really? At what speed did they fall then? It was indeed free fall. The lower levels offered no resistance at all; they were in fact pulverized. By what?

- why was there molten steel and super thermite found in the rubble? The molten substance found in the rubble was untouchable for days if not weeks.

- building 7 fell into it's own footprint, regardless of what the fellow in the baseball cap says. He did say it takes weeks to plant the necessary charges; so how did it fall so quickly after the command by Silverstein to 'pull it'? That command was in fact given, why? if there was no one in the building and certainly anyone in the immediate area had left long ago, all that remained was to extinguish the relatively small fires in it. It had not been struck by anything but debris.

- the steel found in the rubble showed obvious signs of having been cut by a shape charge; the perps had years to lay these charges in preparation, since the last attempt to blow the towers in the early nineties.

The work done by the Fifth Estate seems similar to that of a gatekeeper.

You are responsible for your own karma.

Campbell  — Posted on December 1, 2009 05:34 AM

Where is Charlie Sheen in this documentary ? He just released a letter to the president calling for another investigation into 911. The answer is CBC contacted Charlie but CBC was unwilling to agree to a fair interview that wasn't being manipulated. Charlie stated this fact on a live radio interview done Monday, November 31, 2009 on the Alex Jones show. Go to infowars.com to listen to the interview yourself. That's a shame CBC wasn't willing to play fair because Charlie has extremely good evidence in the letter that should be shown to everyone to help shed light on the criminals responsible for 911(Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld).

Riley  — Posted on December 1, 2009 04:49 AM

Thanks.

One step closer to the truth :o)

Pat  Canada — Posted on December 1, 2009 04:30 AM

[quote]All I'm going to say is what about building seven..... why did building seven collapse?
Can anyone answer that one, the other buildings no problem, but why a lone building fell.....if you want to do a story, look at this one.
thanks[/quote]

building seven was connected to the towers underground.

having two immense body's crumble into their respective basements is more than enough mass moving through underground connections (retaining walls, tunnels sewers...etc) all will be affected by the towers going down it would only take a ripple in the hard-pan to adversely affect building sevens foundations.

picture a rolling wave earthquake on one side was the river retaining wall which most engineers way over build simply because water problems really suck where as a retaining wall only for a building can be much closer to true needed tolerances.

ok when both towers fell they created ripples which spread outwards those that went towards the water were absorbed by the river and the retaining wall(the river would actually help save the walls integrity) while the wave going the direction of other buildings would not be so fortunate. now depending on how sturdy the footings and the material supporting those footings was is the real reason why some buildings around the towers were not affected while others like building seven were. either the footings failed or the building was undermined so the footings couldn't hold.

if you consider how short a building #7 was its very likely the soil it resided on was too weak to support a taller building and in fact was too weak for it in the end. (I'm sure someone could look up the geological survey that was done before it was built probably has a max mass load which limited the # of floors the building could be)

dragoneyes001  Vancouver — Posted on December 1, 2009 02:09 AM

I would like to reply to Rod K. who posted on November 29, 2009 at 09:17 PM

Richard Gage does not claim to be the foremost expert on steel-framed skyscraper construction. But he does have 970 other accredited architects and engineers in his organization, Architects and Engineer for 9/11 Truth, who may have a bit of experience to back them up. (ae911truth.org)

Mr. Gage chose wisely to not answer Bob McKeown's speculative question about why the perpetrators of the 9/11 operation needed to fly jets into the building in the first place if all that was needed to bring them down was controlled demolition charges. Gage chose to stick with the facts that have been verified by at least 118 eye-witnesses and backed up with forensic evidence. If he had answered the question he would be led into the real of speculation and would thus be working in the realm of the theoretical rather than the empirical. He would potentially discredit himself as an architectural expert witness to a crime scene.

I, however, have no reputation to lose so I will answer your question directly: the planes were needed to make the official story more believable. Terrorists hijack planes. It has happened before and it may happen again. It is a plausible story-line.

If the perpetrators of the 9/11 operation simply blew up the buildings it would have a much smaller visual and emotional impact than four airliners being hijacked, then flown into buildings, then having the buildings collapse; three events, three traumas, much more fear and hate generated.

Moreover, it would have been a huge stretch of the imagination to suggest that Osama Bin Laden and his cave-dwelling henchmen would have been able to breach the World Trade Center security system and be able to get in and plant sophisticated shaped charges (thermite) on two 110-story and one 47-story building.

On the other hand, it is almost unbelievable, yet plausible, that a few highly-trained professionals, over the weeks prior to 9/11, were able to access the 47 internal columns of WTC 1 & 2 via the elevator shafts, and to access the 252 external columns.

Indeed, in the weeks prior to 9/11, there were numerous reports of a dramatic increase in tradespeople working on the elevators and on upgrades to the WTC wiring systems. There were reports of noises such as heavy boxes and crates being moved around on vacant floors. There were reports of a thin film of white dust being found in the twin towers. There were reports of numerous power-outages and security systems tests being conducted. And, five days before 9/11, the bomb-sniffing dogs were removed from the WTC towers for no reason and many of the security staff were told to take a few days off because they had been working a lot of overtime during the security drills. Then, on the morning of 9/11, the Head of Security for the WTC complex is replaced and a new guy started his first day of work.

Too many coincidences.

9/11 was a false-flag operation designed to generate fear, rally people behind the government, launch two wars, institute the Patriot Act, the Homeland Security Act, and hundreds of Presidential Directives designed to concentrate power in the hands of the elite who run the country.

benny  BC — Posted on December 1, 2009 02:07 AM

Because of your measures to filter this show from non-Canadians (we outside of Canada get an error message), I had to watch this show on Youtube. Why?

Peter  Netherlands — Posted on December 1, 2009 12:45 AM

This program unfortunately was set up to get as much information for the perpetrators of the 9/11. They want to know what kind of information is available around the world because the mosaic is starting to be filled up by the professional architects, engineers, chemists, physicists from around the world.
Lets hope that the truth will be revealed pretty soon to honor all the victims of this horrendous crime.
Statistics said that after 9/11 every 2.1 seconds word "Terrorist" was mentioned in our daily media,till now H1N1 is appearing in the frequencies 2.7 seconds.
What do you think who owns the media?????
Goebbles, Hitler’s Propaganda minister said, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” But he also said, ”The truth is the mortal enemy of the lie.”

Sunshine  — Posted on November 30, 2009 11:47 PM

Don't do individual interviews. Do debates. We are not going to get anything out of them except the same stories they both have been saying for years. Have a debate with a panel of experts to clarify technical opinions that one person may say incorrectly.

Max  NY — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:59 PM

I think what many people are missing on this forum and in my opinion was TOTALLY missed in this documentary is how grossly incompetent the US government had to be if this whole thing was NOT an inside job. I read most of the 500 page commission report and it does state the following as fact- I COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP FOLKS!!(you can read the report yourself to verify this is not made up whatsoever and I am frustrated to no end no one in the mainstream media has the kajones' to cover it..check it out)

1) the FBI knew that several of the Saudi Hijackers where in the states prior to 9/11.

2) several of the above mentioned Hijackers where red flagged as suspicious unsavory characters BEFORE BOARDING FLIGHTS ON 9/11 but yet were permitted on domestic flights TOGETHER on 9/11 although the CIA had intelligence reports stating 1 month earlier (Aug 2001) that Muslim extremists who hate America were training in flight schools and were planning attacks against Americans

3) Clinton had the chance to authorize a covert operation in Afghanistan via unmanned drone to take out Bin Laden after the USS Cole attack but opted not to.

**IN THE LAST FEW DAYS** CNN reported mainstream that the US gov stated that Bin Laden and his cronies were holed up in Torra Borra in the cross hairs of the US army BUT elected not to expend their resources on someone who was allegedly responsible for the slaughter of over 3000 Americans in cold blood!!! what??!!!

So having read the above in the commission report which was apparently compiled by pro Bush people AND mainstream by CNN (as told by US congress) I can only conclude that the US government world re-known with the best Air,Land and sea defence in the universe was grossly incompetent beyond all humankind comprehension OR they were totally complicit and cooperative with the whole operation...take your pick folks what a world we live in!!

Shawn  Toronto — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:26 PM

A few comments about your program.

1. The story was well covered with no hint of bias.

2. It doesn't take an army of conspirators to do a lot of damage - there were only a handful of hijackers. However, having a nation of sheeples willing to accept whatever their govenment tells them without question certainly helps.

3. Just because those who are alleging a conspiracy don't have all the answers or all their facts right does not mean the official story is correct. For example, while seatback cellphones work at altitude, handheld phones are not powerful enough to send and receive a signal through metal to a tower this is 5 to 10 miles away. (try this yourself - the plane won't crash).

4. Apparently all the time, money and effort spent training demolition experts is completely unneccesary. For example, all it took bring tower 7 STRAIGHT down was a small fire on the lower floors that was allowed to burn for hours and hours.

5. It was sure nice of those hijackers to pick the only part of the Pentagon under construction to hit, passing up on juicier targets such as the Capitol Building and the Whitehouse.

6. Given that the US Government lied about the reasons for going into Iraq, why is it surprising they have no credibility.

7. Why have successive Presidents not reversed Lyndon Johnson's presidential order sealing the Kennedy assisination evidence for 100 years (bet ya'll thought we forgot about that one too!)


Dale Leier  — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:22 PM


9/11 was a sad trajedoy in the world to happen. It is
very unfortunate that there were numeous like factual
conclusions and accusations made as soon as the event took place. After numerous scientific arguements and the incident of thispropotion and in the power house of the world, the U.S.Agovernment has not set up any serious invistigation of the incident.
I know some of revelation after the collapse that some Pass port was found in the burnt debri. That very impressive photo graphs came out immediately after the 9/11.That there were no effort made to look for any evidence of how and why 9/11 occured.It is important for the world to know the Truth.

taher Lookmanjee  — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:04 PM

Time to debunk some of the truthers evidence.

the twin towers collapsing Why did they?:

1) you slam a plane right through a MODERN building you have a few Multi-ton engines playing pin ball among the pillars before they come to a stop they will wipe several of them out for each engine. so structural integrity is already compromised.

2) high heat is not attained by jet fuel! (nice try) but a few thousand seats full of foam all set ablaze at the same time by that fuel will easily attain the required heat to melt the structural beams. (how about someone actually looking this stuff up for a change instead of making really dumb assumptions.)

3) those nice explosions one of the video's shows as the building is collapsing are they explosives?
in short NO! the building is falling apart from the center first because of the outer shell's design which made it self sustaining vertically the inner floors are already a few floors ahead of the outer shell in collapsing so the explosions your seeing are the electrical rooms blowing up because all the wiring on the floor is being torn apart and your getting massive electrical failures which tends to blow up the transformers on each floor they put them on. about every 3rd or 4th floor just like the explosions on the video imagine that!

4) where did the engines go?
in that mass pile of molten rubble at ground zero
the pillars eventually stopped their movement before they could exit the buildings.

the pentagon:

1) ram a plane into a solid wall (which pretty much no pilot will try to do under normal circumstances they actually try to minimize damage in emergencies) and you'll find that thin aluminum fuselage and some structural members have little chance of doing massive damage to the wall hence the smaller hole in the building.

2) what happened to the engines? as the plane was being funneled through the small hole the wings (being the strongest connection point on a plane) folded back and also got sucked through the hole with most of the plane

3) was it a missile?
NO! the wreckage that was filmed by countless journalist organizations in full view of the public shows that it was indeed the plane they said hit the pentagon.

now for the government:

1) did Bush and his cronies orchestrate the attacks?
if after 8 years of those idiots in office wasn't enough proof they were simply too stupid to pull that off no amount of documents or video proof would be.

2) did they take advantage of the attacks?
certainly they jumped on it like tigers on raw meat.

3) was there a cover up?
yup but not the one the truthers are trying to bullshit about. the Bush admins. hid just how incompetent they were by ignoring a number of allied warnings which pretty much spelled out exactly what was going to occur.

4) why did the Israelis suddenly bug out before the attack?
they took the warnings as real and acted accordingly.

all in all the truthers facts are so skewed its no wounder so many people think them as nutters.if they were about holding the administration responsible about ignoring all the warnings they might actually get a lot more people on board but as long as the question is based on the possibility of Bush's admins pulling off a huge staged attack the facts make them look like uninformed sheep bleating at headlights.

dragoneyes001  Vancouver — Posted on November 30, 2009 08:42 PM

I'm impressed that you presented a fair, but unfortunately limited documentary. You unlike others before you provided Richard Gage, and David Ray Griffin a platform for which they were able to rationally present a few of the many points of contention there are with the "Official Story". Congratulations on taking the issues a step further, and bringing some truth to light!

Gary  Montreal — Posted on November 30, 2009 08:35 PM

I am completely sickened by the CBC for airing this piece of garbage. It is an insult to the people who lost their lives that day, that you suggest that it was not an act of foriegn terrorism. Every piece of "evidence" that was presented has been thoroughly diproven by actual experts, not crackpots and paranoid conspiracy theorists. Once again the CBC shows it's true colors. As a tax payer, I feel I am being robbed by having to pay for left wing propaganda that the CBC espouses. If this is the best you can do, it is time for the CBC to be taken off the air.

Michael Barretto  — Posted on November 30, 2009 08:21 PM

The official conspiracy theory(19 Arabs with box cutters with 4 acting as pilots, who were incapable of landing a Cessna into the Grand Canyon, flew passenger planes like F16s while evading the air defense systems of the greatest military force in history)is so bereft of foresnic plausabilty that it begs the question of how people as unintelligent as the Bush adminstration could get away with it?
Unfortunately they only had to be smarter then the Main stream media and their enablers.
As for another of the countless Red Herrings as to how so many people involved could be silenced,remember the Manhatten Project involved over 100,000 people and yet Roosevelt,s vice president Harry Truman was unaware of the project until Roosevelt,s death and he became president.
Science does not require consensus to be true.

Stephen Slater  Vancouver — Posted on November 30, 2009 06:52 PM

I don't know if more could reasonably be expected from mainstream tee-vee like CBC, for various reasons. But on balance, it seems salutary that they put it out there, however subpar to an experienced observer.
I almost never watch television, ("for various reasons"), and saw next to nothing useful in the video part to supplement the audio, except perhaps to have glances at participants' faces.

From Sept. 12/01 I understood to largely not accept what we were being fed by establishment sources. But I just had to start publicly participating against the outrage when I could not bear seeing Prof. Griffin outrageously trashed by a leading left wing mag, In These Times, back in '05. It's not even so much the physical as the human behavioural evidence that is most damning. That there has had to be so much focus on sometimes difficult physical evidence to make one's case -- which of course is nonetheless essential and most welcome, particularly Prof. Jones' intervention, for example -- is a sorry indicator about much more than the great evil of the events themselves, but about the lack of awareness of fundamental matters in the general public. Even among those one would incline to expect are readier political dissenters is there widespread failure of instinct and perception of corruption and sickness. Woe is us.

A recent discussion in a Canadian political venue took place on the national Green Party's blogsite. Some readers here might find the discussion, and I hope my own contributions there, interesting. That it took place there should not be seen as an endorsement of that party except that they are brave enough to house such open discussion. I don't know if CBC will allow a link to the webpage in question, but if you search on "Sept. 11 remembrance from the GPUS" you should find your way to the appropriate webpage, at least parts of which it is hoped some of you find additionally provocative.

Nice to see Helen Goggin putting in a good word for Prof. Griffin in an earlier comment here. When I noticed him involved some years ago, I began to pay extra attention, as I also had been very much positively affected by his philosophical and theological work (as I mentioned in my In These Times comments).

All in all I guess it is good that CBC put it out there, but could they ever have done a more thorough and creditable job.

Daryl Vernon  Toronto — Posted on November 30, 2009 06:26 PM

I HOPE YOU PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO WAKE UP TO THIS INSIDE JOB

russ  PETERBOROUGH — Posted on November 30, 2009 06:18 PM

I just re-viewed "The Unoffical Story".
This Pandora's Box is again set slightly ajar at the CBC.

Bob, (Smirky), McKeown had better follow up this report in a much more professional manner, very soon.
His two "experts" were 'lie-men' at best and not in the least credible in their attempts to blooster the offical "conspiracy theory".

The laughing jackle from Popular Mechanics made my skin crawl and his hollow "theories" have been refuted many times over.

And what is with that so-called "demoliton expert" who was talking out of both sides of his mouth?

Focus your next program on Building #7.
Explain to Canadians how the BBC knew it would explode
long before it did and reported this,live and on-air, that day.
Larry Silverstien, WTC owner, publicly stated that
"...We Pulled It..."
Building #7 was "Pulled"!
Ask a real demoliton expert what "PULLED" means.

The 9/11 Commission's "theory" is "CRAZY" and "TREASON" at the highest levels.

From an all day CBC Radio listener
And a CBC TV viewer at night

Be Credible...or Begone!

D.H. Bischoff  — Posted on November 30, 2009 05:27 PM

I think that even Bob McKeown knows why this story has always been buried under the shallow disinformation campaigns that have contributed to misleading so many people and saved so many retirement funds. It takes real courage to advocate against popular opinion and cupidity, and I can understand why Bob and his overlords might prefer security over any real inquiry into any truth.

By the way, Bob: why not check out Kurt Sonnenfeld's story? You don't need balls to just have a look.

R S Westera  — Posted on November 30, 2009 05:14 PM

thanks for this program.. which covered more ground on this issue than usa national media. i first started publishing an online news ezine prior to 9/11/01 regarding a high risk "flyby" maneuver by NASA with enough plutonium radiation on board to impact 5 billion people. i learned of the plans of us space command to enter outer space with new weapons of destruction and control.

the events of sept. 11 had led to two country invasions, before a proper investigation had taken place. the presence of explosive technology in the dust, which was a military grade explosive, nanothermate, reminds me of the military grade anthrax sent to media and democratic party leaders that came from a u.s. military laboratory. the letters that came with the anthrax tried to imply the threat came from foreign terrorists. This was missed by the 5th Estate, evidence of deception and possible coup d'etat ingredients, that make no sense unless we dig deeper into what really happened.

for more on objective independent news reporting on this issue, and related issues, check out my site.. www.FlybyNews.com for "life's survival in the 21st century." i hope you follow up on this program.. william rodriguez testimony was missing in the 9/11 commission report and the program.. he was one of the real heroes on 9/11/01. his story needs to be heard. thanks for considering..

jonathan mark  usa — Posted on November 30, 2009 04:23 PM

Astounding. Very informative programme and comments by viewers. Bob, you did an excellent job on this, as well as your team. I would like to see follow up shows which answer many of the questions posed in this comment bank. I am a virtual newcomer to this topic so I'd like to know more facts. Keep up the great work.

fresh air  — Posted on November 30, 2009 04:15 PM

A few key facts that were not said: At the time that the bldgs fell, they were insured with a policy that stated; In the event of an ACT OF WAR, the ins. ind. would be reimbursed 100% of all payouts. If this was NOT a LEGALLY declared war(based on FALSE 'INTELLIGENCE'), then the ins. ind. SHOULD have given the people their money back. However with a corrupt gov't, that was never brought up.( Also, the proper terminology for this action should be "occupation" as in "an illegal occupation of a foreign country by the military force". Furthermore, no one has investigated the fact that the U.S. was given FALSE 'INTELLIGENCE'(a possible act of TREASON). If I(or anyone) gave any law enforcement agency 'information' that was (afterward) deemed to be false, then I could be charged with a 'crime'. As of yet, there has been no action taken in this regard. As a true American(one who believes that first you find the TRUTH, then JUSTICE will find it's own way), I truly believe that this was an act of treason, and that the 'perpetrators' shall and will be tried for treason. It took a coordinated effort by all of the press to NOT consider said. And so, my hats off to you, oh Canada, for having the fortitude for all that you are attempting to accomplish!

Ron Elwart  — Posted on November 30, 2009 04:11 PM


When a tree falls in the forest, does it turn to SAWDUST before it hits the ground?

Pattimontreal  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:58 PM

Your program gave truthers yet another opportunity to repeat distortions and falsehoods without much scrutiny.

One of the questions you didn't ask was, if truthers really just want another investigation, then WHO would be the agency to do it? Think about it: if it's any group of experts with ties to government, and the investigation fails to affirm truther myths, won't truthers just reject it and cry 'foul'?

The answers are already there. Truthers just don't like them, and pretend they still haven't been answered.

What they're looking for is a witch-hunt against whatever scapegoats they can find.

Mark F  Vancouver — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:55 PM

Way to go World. I live in the United States of America, and I cannot view this video because Canadians can only tell the truth to their own people, not the world.

Bull shit. Canadians, get this leaked for US!!!

Chelsea  — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:05 PM

Assume for a moment that the 9/11 event did not happen. Would there have been invasions of both Afghanistan and Iraq? Within days of being sworn in as President, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al, started planning an invasion of Iraq. However, justification was needed. Much earlier in history, the Pearl Harbour attack provided a groundswell of American public support for the US to enter WW2 which they had largely opposed before.

Fast forward to the 1990s - The Project for a New American Century had "visions" of a New World Order but bemoaned the fact that the "process of tranformation" would be long - lest "we have a NEW PEARL HARBOUR". They wanted the United States to attain “Full Spectrum Dominance” the world over. (google Naom Chomsky)

The "Downing Street memo" –says in summary in June 2000 –“ The decision to go to war has already been made.” All that needs to be done is to FIX THE FACTS AROUND THE POLICY. (We have to lie to go to war) This memo was drafted after a high level meeting between officials from Tony Blairs' Gov't and their US counterparts in Washington regarding Iraq. The rest is history - 9/11 takes place and CIA asset/Bush family friend Bin Ladin is wanted for the crime. They claim he is hiding in Afghanistan and the Taliban are harbouring terrorists. Afganistan is invaded in Nov 2001. They create links between 9/11 and their old friend Saddam.

In March 2003, after Colin Powell does his infamous presentation to the UN Bush orders an invasion of Iraq despite local and international condemnation of such un-warranted action. Despite the protestations of Hans Blix and their OWN Scott Ritter. Iraq capitulates under “shock and awe”. After a “trial” Saddam is hanged as dead men cannot speak.

Currently the world witnesses Bush doing speaking engagements. Tony Blair is ironically a mid-east “Peace Envoy”. Their cohorts, aiders and abettors have ridden off into the sunset on fat pensions. In the meantime, the US is going broke. Their soldiers (and some of ours) are dying in the thousands in two unprovoked and unwarranted wars based on lies and based largely on an event that, upon real scrutiny will hopefully be exposed for what it truly was on September 11th 2001: The largest and most catastrophic attack on American soil was planned and executed by Americans. May the perpetraItors be brought to justice. May the first set of war criminals from the West be tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity!

Outan Ramesar (use orion as pen name if permitted)  Brampton — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:03 PM

The most insightful comment was from the editor of Popular Mechanics who implied that too many "conspiracy theory" evangelists view the world through movie-enhanced images.

As an airline pilot I know the reality and complexity of the airspace system. To suggest that one aircraft diverting off course should have immediately resulted in fighter jets being scrambled is ludicrous. It never used to work that way because no one assumed that even hijackers would fly airliners into buildings.

Only in movies are complex situations like this analysed, realized and responded to in a few short minutes. Only in movies does a busy air traffic controller have a hotline to the President of the United States who can then immediately alert his Chief of Defence staff who can then immediately deliberate for 2 seconds and then decide to shoot down a civilian airliner. Sheesh people - please understand that the reality of the world is NOT like the movies.

Since 9-11 airline anti-hijack training has been totally changed as have military/ATC protocols etc. The hijackers recognized a set of preconception in our defenses and exploited that. This is a common story in history (recall Hitler's Blitzkrieg; Hannibal's crossing the Alps etc.. Total paradigm shifts.)

Regarding cell phones onboard - they work reasonably well and always have - hence the ban on their use to reduce interference with aircraft wiring. This university prof. offers a ludicrous and complex scenario. Steel in jet engines blocking signals? There is precious little steel in a jet engine.

Collapse of buildings? What could cause lower floors and windows to blow out? How about a column of air inside a sealed building being crushed by the falling floors above? Anyone using a pressure washer knows what kind of force high speed fluids produce.

No evidence of a B757 hitting the Pentagon? Aluminum burns extremely well in a super-heated explosion of tons of jetfuel superheated and ignighted by the energy of a collission at 500 mph! Steel burning in the towers? It doesn't have to burn - just deform. What temperature? Who knows how hot it became as tons of burning jet fuel creates a rushing flow of air - an effective blast furnace?

There may be questions, but the "answers" proposed by the "truthers" are implausible at best. Mostly ludicrous. If there is any "cover-up" it's more likely to be Govt/Def officials trying to hide flaws and incompetencies in their defence of the nation. CYA is still a highly-human reaction in any bureaucracy.

Grant  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 01:46 PM

I am always suspicious when mainstream media takes on this subject. We know who controls mainstream media and so we expect a biased perspective. I think that is what we got here, just another biased account. It was patently evident that much of the Architects for Truth factual data was glossed over. No real focus on Nano-Thermite, which is different from Thermite. It has been suggested that Nano-Thermite can simply be painted onto a surface intended for destruction. That means you don't have to expose columns. That means no one is suspicious if a few workmen arrive for a day or two and shut the towers down for some repairs (which apparently happened on the weekend before the Tuesday event).

Someone asked on this board why Gage dismissed Bob's totally legitimate question as to why the US gov needed to involve airplanes when it would have been easier for them to claim that that the buildings were exploded?

Well, to have buildings explode is to admit that a lot of security workers were not doing their jobs. How did Al-Queda get in there and plant the charges? It is much more plausible and easy to explain that "unforseen" kamikaze planes simply smashed into buildings.

Furthermore, I agree with Gage that it is not his position to answer why the US would have perpetrated this crime. He must only prove that their official story is false. I believe he has more than done this and is it now time for the US government to answer to their people.

Jan Bee  Ottawa — Posted on November 30, 2009 12:55 PM

Good show! Cynicism is a welcome part of freedom but not always accurate.

Generally the skeptics need to think a little more openly.

For example the collapse of the towers appears to be a "piston/cylinder" effect. The upper core of the collapsing tower is the piston producing huge pulses of gas/air pressure inside the lower section of the towers as floor by floor collapsed.

With respect to the Pentagon, the cold war "fortress", one has to consider the rebar concentration in the walls. These would have shredded any object trying to penetrate them (?).

With respect to the Pennsylvania plane and the other cell phone calls - 30,000ft is only 6 miles - maybe the pilots could have (secretly) channeled the phone signals through their cockpit antennae to minimize the interference from the fuselage ??

However there is one curious event. The CNN Gallery on Sept. 12 shows one photo of the plane just as it is about to enter the south tower. There appears to be an orange flash in the nose of the plane. Then, unlike the north tower crash, there is a large instantaneous fireball.

The technical term for "fireball" is BLEVE - Boiling Liquid, Expanding Vapour Explosion. There needs be a large source of heat to vapourize the kerosene (similar to diesel) fuel BEFORE combustion.

Were there explosives in the cockpit? Did Atta carry them on or were they placed there before hand. Were explosives on the highjackers persons as a "plan B" in case they were overpowered. Was this what made their threats so effective - that they were suicide bombers(Israel calls them Homicide bombers)???

Good journalist always give the skeptic his/her five minutes. You do us proud CBC.

Peter  NL — Posted on November 30, 2009 12:39 PM

thank-you for airing this.

wes  — Posted on November 30, 2009 12:36 PM

5th Estate failed to delve deeply into claims and counter claims. Gave truthers a hard time but left truth deniers alone. Did they interview the official govt reps (or say why not)? If a truther is stupid, does that make their theory wrong? Did they give their so called demolition expert a hard time about his theory/ vibration chart (ie to establish provenance)? I hope listeners noted his motive (concerned about effect of conspiracy theory). Doesn't this make him biased? Still, more Americans have a something to chew on ie. that the govt did not include thermite info in their report. GL to all.

Canbyte  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 11:06 AM

CBC:

Comments on this forum are seemingly 4:1 skewed towards questioning the US Government account.

How do you respond to the majority who seem to think that the program fell short of true investigative journalism?

I say confidently that, while not acknowledged as such, the unaccepted truth by media and politicians of 9/11 being an inside job is THE biggest geo-political issue in the world today.

And CBC, this is the best you can do? Talk about the issue once every three years, in a documentary program?
Why isn't Mansbridge interviewing Gage on The National, or his necktie-less 1:1 show.

CBC - can you please itemize exactly what you reported about 9/11 which was not spoon-fed through press releases and media events? True first hand data gathering - anything? You're as complicit as the rest of the media for not fact-checking everything you were spoon-fed.

For the last eight years the CBC didn't "cover the story". Like everyone else, you "covered the press releases, and swallowed hook/line/sinker".

We'll forgive you. Just admit your mistakes! Thanks!

Charlie  Regina — Posted on November 30, 2009 10:06 AM

As I watched this story it amazed me once again, as it did with the Diana Princess of Wales conspiracy theory, how easy it is for people to overlook the obvious in an effort to feed their fear of government. I'm sure things like the Kennedy assassination, the illegitimate Iraq invasion, lies and misdemeanors has taken its toll over the years and gotten into the psyche of all mistrust of government. However, watching all of these zealous, dogmatic, individuals interviewed, reminded me of others who are easily brainwashed and who are willing take up a cause with 'complete dismissal' of any and all logic that doesn't fit with their beliefs.

Larry W  — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:26 AM

I see Centcom is working hard on this forum. There are only so many ways you can rephrase what you keep posting under different names.

Much of the evidence was left out of this. how about 6/10 of the 911 commissioners have now come out and said that the investigation was compromised? But you already knew that, because this piece was based on Charlie Sheen's 20 questions.

There are countless holes in the story and far to many coincidences for the official story to be plausible.

Steve  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:25 AM

geez that is a lot of posts. I for one dont believe the official story...but thats as far as we can go, no one outside of the US govt can really examine the evidence, its being withheld. I dont thik its our place to explain what did happen, they are the govt, they have to explain it to us and the explanation is so weak that many of us question it. That doesnt make me a conspiracy theorist, im just not like most blind patriots that believes everything the gov't says. I personally dont like it when ppl try to throw out theories as to how it happened because, we can really even get in there to examine this overwhelming evidence. Maybe there was a plane that crashed into the towers, maybe not, but...ultimately one has to conclude that there was gov't interference, people need to get impeached. If it wasnt clear enough that this gov't was irresponsible, surely Iraq, and katrina obviously shows their lack of reliability

divo  toronto — Posted on November 30, 2009 09:21 AM

Very good report, i dont believe it was biased, it just opened the door way. But there does need to be a real investigation into 911, We have troops over seas, and there dieing for what? Can anyone tell me what they are dieing for? We are our troops over there? Because i can tell you now it isnt because of 911. Never has been. SO why are our troops over there when the reason they gave us, is that those responsible for 911 were from there? Ohh wait, no they were Saudi's... my mistake.

Lets bring our troops home now and let the Americans clean up there own mess.

I am for Canada and only for Canada. This is our country and we will not jump for the Americans when they call us.
FUCK THE USA!

Kystien  Edmonton — Posted on November 30, 2009 07:52 AM

Two days ago I wrote a comment that didn't make it to this page. I suspect that it was because it contained direct links to YouTube documents and that those are not allowed on this forum.

Well then, let's make it a little more complicated for anyone wishing to learn something about the credibility of Popular Mechanics, which was featured so prominently in the broadcast and whose propaganda piece, "Debunking the 9/11 Myths", is readily available on the Related Links page.

Instead of providing the exact URL's, I will merely suggest that one googles the name Davin Coburn.

Mr. Coburn was the Research editor of Popular Mechanics for the hit piece on 9/11 and he foolishly agreed to participate in an open debate which was broadcast live on KFNX News Talk Radio on Aug. 23, 2006.

After hearing that broadcast, one understands why proponents of the official story stubbornly refuse to debate those of us who question their version of the events.

Raymond   Montréal — Posted on November 30, 2009 06:22 AM

I had the opportunity to watch the documentary regarding 911 and was left feeling sick to my stomach that the Fifth Estate made attempts to make the 911 Truthers look like a bunch of freaks and then had the audacity to add insult to injury upon the victims families and to the rest of the world.....Shame on you!

I totally agree with a comment made by KC....our country Canada has also been taken over by 'Ruthless' politicians and the mainstream media from exposure to any TRUTHS to corruptions.

The time has come that 'We The People Need To Take A Stand'

Alison  Halifax — Posted on November 30, 2009 04:54 AM

The only truth I discovered in this movie is that it must have been sponsored by the CIA and other official offices.

JAcob SUijk  Netherlands — Posted on November 30, 2009 04:45 AM

There are many reasons why a significant number of Canadians would like to see the left-wing CBC shut down completely and the "9/11 truthers programme" is yet another reason.

I wonder how many tax dollars you spent to bring this rubbish to our TV's. Whoever is responsible should be fired.

In particular the reporter was too weak-kneed to follow up on the statement that the real planes were landed at a military base. What is supposed to have happened next? Did American soldiers shoot them all?????

How dumb can you get.Vickierose

Vickie Beamish  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 03:51 AM

The ball is in the court of those who support the "official story." They need to do their homework. The official story needs to be proven. Colin Powell promised that a White Paper would be produced giving evidence that linked Bin Laden with 9/11. This paper was never produced. The 9/11 Commission Report has also been proven to be fraudulent.

The "unofficial story" does not need to be proven. As long as we have probable cause to believe that the official story does not make sense, then an official enquiry (complete with subpoena power and testimony under oath) is necessary.

Bob McKeown insisted on pressing Richard Gage to answer questions that Gage deemed to be the subject of speculation. Gage was not being elusive; he was just sticking to the facts. If he had answered a speculative question then he would be straying from his focus: to prove simply that the official story cannot be physically possible.

Good for Gage for sticking to his guns. The speculative questions need to be left to a new and truly independent commission.


Stephen Badhwar  — Posted on November 30, 2009 03:00 AM

Great work CBC. This was a well made and fair documentary. It covered issued that should be talked about. I want to know the truth about 9-11. Canada's involvment in Afghanistan is largely due to the belief that 9-11 was the result of terrorists that trained in Afghanistan. But wait a minute, weren't the terrorists from Egypt, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Isn't Osama Bin Ladin believed to be in Pakistan. What is going on here? None of the terrorists on the planes were from Afghanistan. Why didn't we invade any of the other countries involved? Why didn't we invade Pakistan if it is belived Bin Laden is hiding there? Why did we invade Afghanistan? Why is it that the Americans funded Bin Laden in the 80's? If Canada entered the war in Afghanistan under the belief that the terrorists originated from there, then Canada should investigate these questions about 9-11. I want to know why my country originaly invaded Afghanistan. I do not believe the official story. Lets investigate 9-11. Lets find the truth.

Brent  Vancouver — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:33 AM

I believe the powers that be are on damage control and it is getting harder for them every day. Many brave men died on 911 running into an ambush when every one else was running out. My heart goes out to all those other brave men, who come home from a foreign land with debilitating emotional afflictions and haunted by the memory of their fallen brothers. As the truth comes out, I wonder if dissension amongst the ranks of police and military forces are of any concern to authorities.

To any military personnel and police officers who are actually beginning to see your employers for what they are… for all our sake, I hope your numbers are growing, because it will eventually come down to you – the ones who wield the weapons. When the last of our liberties are crumbling away, and we morph into a police state void of a middle class - will you blindly follow orders and fade into history, or will you help change it?

Again, many thanks to the fifth estate for holding this forum.

R Beaton  — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:09 AM

I cringed as I watched some of the guests' interviews & their responses. The professor stating his possible scenarios of what happened to the planes and passengers, for example.

There are lots of interviews with people from that day. Why weren't some of those people weren't interviewed for this episode?

I would have liked to have seen the following points investigated:

1. Woman that worked in Pentagon walked out of the hole (it was later that the bldg actually collapsed) - the hole was approximately 15ft wide by 20ft high. She had her baby with her and stated she never saw any parts of a plane, no luggage, nothing. And that there was no jet fuel, she had no jet fuel on her or saw or smelt any. I have that interview on my computer.

2. A reporter who was at the Pentagon moments after the "plane crash" took pictures showing no plane wreckage on the lawn. He noted that later he there were parts of a planet that "showed up" on the lawn & took pictures of that. I have that video showing the before & after pictures on my computer.

3. Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power. Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.

4. In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.

As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”

5. Hundreds of eye witnesses including first responders, fire captains, news reporters, and police, all described multiple explosions in both towers before and during the collapse.

6. An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows BBC News correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. (I also have that video saved on my computer.) Tapes from earlier BBC broadcasts show news anchors discussing the collapse of WTC 7 a full 26 minutes in advance. The BBC at first claimed that their tapes from 9/11 had been “lost” before admitting that they made the “error” of reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened without adequately explaining how they could have obtained advance knowledge of the event.

In addition, over an hour before the collapse of WTC 7, at 4:10pm, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that the building “has either collapsed, or is collapsing.”

7. Solicitor General Ted Olson’s claim that his wife Barbara Olsen called him twice from Flight 77, describing hijackers with box cutters, was a central plank of the official 9/11 story.

However, the credibility of the story was completely undermined after Olsen kept changing his story about whether his wife used her cell phone or the airplane phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. American Airlines confirmed that Flight 77 was a Boeing 757 and that this plane did not have airplane phones on board.

According to the FBI, Barbara Olsen attempted to call her husband only once and the call failed to connect, therefore Olsen must have been lying when he claimed he had spoken to his wife from Flight 77.

8. A few days after the attack, several newspapers as well as the FBI reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC. In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. ..... And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

9. Sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack.

(The majority of the above points are from Charlie Sheen's script "Twenty Minutes With The President". But do to time retraints, I've copied & pasted them. I am in 100% agreement with the points. There are videos and documentation to support each one.)

There are many unanswered questions, and the U.S. government has a responsibility to answer those questions fully and truthfully. Not only American citizens were killed, but Canadians, British, and people from many other countries.

I also have a newspaper article saved to my computer that claims a number of the alleged hijackers were alive and accounted for, after the 9/11 attack.

Malag  — Posted on November 30, 2009 02:06 AM

Nicely done being unbiased! Why weren't the receivers of the phone calls interviewed on the show? It would be interesting to see their point of view.

Darren Langley  — Posted on November 30, 2009 01:54 AM

The whole thing is so ambiguous that it is hard for me to reach a final conclusion. What is interesting is how entrenched each side is.

Knowing first hand how incompetent governments/large bureaucracies are, and easily bamboozled they are through my personal interactions with the federal government of Canada, I doubt that these military response inconsistencies were out of the ordinary inefficiency range. I do see the vertical demolition of the buildings as indicative of a controlled sequence of explosions to a large extent, but then again I have no expertise and have been pointed this way by others, so have been shaped into this perception.

What I have found mostly true since I have become interested in achieving a goal in my community, is that people seldom use reason to reach conclusions. Most people operate on belief and this is dangerous as is evident in the wide range of personal deception and collective social fraud we subscribe to on an everyday basis. Our community is ruled by marketing, most of which is fraudulent, or, at least suspiciously biased in nature.

I wonder if these conspiracy theories are symptom of the distrust most feel for their governments. Would this not be directly due to poor government?

Isn't this whole mess about poor government on every scale, local, national and international?

It is a great strategy: Divide and conquer.

Keep them looking in the rear view mirror and arguing about what they saw as it recedes in the distance. They will never know where they are going.

Bud the Oracle  — Posted on November 30, 2009 01:28 AM

Now that you have started us thinking again about the events of 9/11 maybe you can do a similar story about the hoax of the H1N1 scare.

jess  Canada — Posted on November 30, 2009 01:01 AM

I know you have received thousands of responses to The Unofficial Story of 9/11 and cannot (or choose not to) include all of us but I'll add one more set of comments in addition to the comments I previously submitted, but were not posted. I would ask again to please post these comments.

This Fifth Estate forum of responses to The Official Story program is fascinating. Obviously the vast majority of respondents are, more or less, in agreement with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Most of the people who do not believe the 9/11 Truth claims clearly have not done their homework. Many are only voicing gut reactions that these things claimed by the 9/11 Truth Movement simply cannot be true. I would encourage them to do some digging. A very few others offer contrary points of view but with at least some understanding of some of the facts. They, as well, need to continue gathering factual, logical and scientific information. I would suggest they dig a bit deeper and set aside their personal and political agendas if they truly want to objectively analyze these events.

There is no lack of information these days, all of which we have to sort out the fact and fiction, the physical evidence from the psychological denial of it. It has taken most of us believers in the 9/11 Truth movement much time and energy to come to our present conclusions. We don't really want to believe that this world is as dark a place as the 9/11 events reveal. But we will not close our eyes and ears and pretend it doesn't exist. The only hope is to face these fears and deal with them at the micro and macro levels.

I know the Fifth Estate's "The Unofficial Truth" made a lot of errors, whether intentional or not I don't know. But it is the first time, very belatedly, that we have been allowed to, on the CBC's vehicle, publicly comment on this ongoing set of atrocities and that alone is a remarkable thing, perhaps. Given the CBC's silence on the 9/11 issue, I don't trust it any more than many of the respondents to this forum. This forum may be a genuine vehicle for democratic freedom and debate. It may also be designed only as a pressure venting ploy and a testing of the waters by the powers that be. It also may be a method of collecting names and addresses of the major dissenters in Canada for future use by the CIA. Personally, I don't care. It is time to stand and be counted.

For me the Pentagon "attack" was the smoking gun. You physically cannot have an aircraft that large leave a hole in a building that small. There were several things went wrong with the "plan" on September 11, 2001. One was that the Pentagon facade was not supposed to have remained intact for 20 minutes after the impact and explosions, time enough for many photographs to be taken before the facade collapsed. All this aside, it is just not possible for a rogue aircraft, flown at 600 mph by an incompetent amateur, to enter Washington, D.C air space especially with about 30 to 40 minutes advance notice. Washington D.C is the safest place on the planet if you are anticipating an external attact. For others, the smoking gun was flight 93, for others the implosion style collapse of the three World Trade Center buildings, for others the molten steel created by the thermite explosions, and so on. Any one of the major flaws in the official story is enough to set someone on an investigative journey. Most of us, at the very minimum, logically end with the conclusion that the US government played an active part in constructing and carrying out these 9/11 events. It's when you go further into the search, you discover how really dark this world can be.

My original unprinted comments from yesterday are as follows:

I would like to thank and congratulate The Fifth Estate on its November 27 showing of The Unofficial Story on CBC television. It seems that investigative journalism is not yet completely dead after all. But I would ask why it took so long to get around to doing this. This is perhaps the biggest story in human history and, until now, the mainstream journalistic world has largely ignored it. Until now we have been asked to accept the ridiculous notion that September 11, 2001 occurred as the official account claims.

But you are not alone in your tardiness on attention to this 9/11 issue. CBC Radio’s Quirks and Quarks should have been all over this story as it was “the day that the laws of physics were suspended”, a remarkable first time scientific event in recorded history. CBC Radio’s Ideas program as well should have examined that banner day for the fulfillment of George Orwell’s 1984 vision of the future, the one where the mind control machine is demonstrably fully operational. And a host of other radio, television, film and print media should have demonstrated due diligence. Only the underground element such as the 9/11 Truth Movement and independent truth seekers chose to speak out. All of this is beyond sad. Tens of thousands have since died as a result of this negligence including more than a hundred Canadian Armed Forced personnel.

If you have the courage and resources, I would encourage you to pursue The Unofficial Story to the next few logical steps in near future programming by:
1. Examining the silence on the matter of 9/11, from the media to the political to the personal.
2. Examining who profited (and continues to do so) from the events of 9/11. This is standard police work of looking for those with a motive when a crime has been committed.
3. Looking at the US politicians and military leaders who, at the very least, facilitated the events of 9/11. There really is nothing in human history that compares to the magnitude of this crime and those leaders responsible should be publicly exposed and brought to justice.
4. Looking further to see the group of world business, political, and security agency people involved to expose the ones truly responsible.
5. Looking at prevention of imminent collapse of the world economic system as this group’s justification of the 9/11 events and its aftermath.

The Fifth Estate has only taken the first of many steps toward the Truth of 9/11. Please continue.

Norm
Regina, Saskatchewan

Norm Walker  Regina — Posted on November 30, 2009 12:31 AM

@Rod K wrote:

"1. If there ever is a controlled demolition happening in your town - observe it, you'll realize that even for a 10 story building, it takes 100's of people to place the explosives on a very gutted building, never mind 2 110 and one 47 story building which is occupied by 1000s of people at any given time...."

Clearly you don`t recognize the obvious contradiction/irony in this standard, nonsensical refutation. It absolutely does NOT require '100's of people' to demolish a 'gutted building'. As demonstrated on 9/11, there are three very simple steps you can take to bring a building straight down on itself:

1. Pick a point at any height on the building, and at any location around its perimeter, and cut away about one eighth of the structure's outer steel columns, side-by-side. Don't worry...the building will NOT yet collapse from this damage, as confirmed by the NIST report.
2. Set fire to the office furniture on several floors around the cut columns. If you like, you can use jet fuel (kerosene) to start the fire, as it will quickly burn away leaving nothing but the blazing office furniture.
3. Wait about an hour or so, and Presto! Instant CD-like collapse, and at a fraction of the cost charged by those snake oil-selling demolition companies.

*IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP: You should most definitely shroud the building in blast cloth to prevent the self-dismantling building from ejecting multi-ton chunks of itself two football fields away.

The astute reader might immediately see a serious flaw with this method. Step 1 clearly calls for the cutting of a contiguous section of steel columns, at some random location on the building. This randomness would reasonably lead to an asymmetrical collapse initiation, resulting in the section of the building above the cut columns toppling off to the side. It would not fall straight down thru the rest of the building (thus, spoiling the CD). But fear not, because as observed on 9/11 with the South Tower, even if the top section tips off to the side, the rest of the building will still collapse more or less evenly thru itself, even though the top section is not directly falling on it.

On 9/11, three buildings were brought straight down using this technique, so I think it's safe to say that as long as the important safety tip is followed, one can CD a building with very little time, money, and manpower.

Ian  Victoria — Posted on November 29, 2009 11:50 PM

How about a show on another conspiracy theory - Millions of dollars worth of gold that the government covertly unloaded out the back door of the Canadian Mint recently; at a time when they have hyper-inflated our dollar (we just haven't seen the full effects yet)... And then paid millions more to a “consultation-corporation” to make some pathetic suggestions on security at the mint... Oh wait, that really happened. Heard about it yet? They like to kill those stories fast. Make you mad? Propaganda is alive and well people! My question is what do we do now? I like to think that the majority of us Canadians can reverse the brainwashing and start adopting a preemptive mindset. Organization is the key. We need to pay close attention to what our leaders are doing (Copenhagen Conference), and hold them to account. I think we still have at least the veil of democracy… for the time being.

PS - My utmost respect to the fifth estate for allowing these posts. It illustrates that we as free citizens have the ability to make a difference and therefore have the obligation to. Anyone notice the percentage of people just on these posts alone who are beginning to see through the facade?

R Beaton  — Posted on November 29, 2009 11:01 PM

Consider nano-thermite material that can be applied with a spray-on adhesive. All then needed is a flame of higher than 600degrees F and you've got an explosion that will melt metal. DOD in the US have been exploring "thermite strategy" since the 2nd world war but it really got intensive in the '90's.

Euge Light  — Posted on November 29, 2009 10:26 PM

I was surprised that McKeown did not press a simple but vital point. If a steel column is severed with explosives or thermite, the appearance at the point of rupture is unmistakeable, compared to a column failing from purely mechanical compression and/or bending. To have had hundreds of columns sabotaged as Gage suggests would surely have been obvious to an untrained eye, and been reported by the cleanup crews. Unless, as he might argue, they had first been sworn to secrecy.

If such evidence did exist, Gage would surely have mentioned it in support of his case, rather than concentrating on such minutiae as traces of nano-thermite. If such evidence existed but was not reported, then why not? More conspiracy? Considering the number of workers tasked with removing the wreckage, it is hard to believe such obvious evidence would remain a secret for long over a few beers in a bar.

Richard Sircm  — Posted on November 29, 2009 10:02 PM

Many important points were omitted from this film .

Steel melting points and structural failure , watch "Improbable collapse" for this. All the Data is analyzed.

The pentagon story was completely discredited in the film "the pentacon"

The media complicity was exposed in "September clues"

"Fabled enemies" exposed the culprits and explained the reasons for this crime.

Many People have documented every aspect of this operation.

If you go to... You will find a complete library of everything that has been researched by the 911 truth movement. It may take you a month to go through all of it but isn't this what journalism is supposed to be about ?

Mikael P Rasila   — Posted on November 29, 2009 09:18 PM

Wow - just reading the comments:

I saw this report twice now over the weekend, if you're one of the people questioning what 'really' happened over the weekend.

1. If there ever is a controlled demolition happening in your town - observe it, you'll realize that even for a 10 story building, it takes 100's of people to place the explosives on a very gutted building, never mind 2 110 and one 47 story building which is occupied by 1000s of people at any given time....

2. Google Richard Gage: you'll realize that the defacto expert on the demolition of 2 of the tallest buildings in the world presents an amazing paradox, since the tallest building in his CV is a high school gymnasium...

3. During the interivews - I love how Dewdney used the word "whatever" when Bob McKeowen corrected him on the callers name. Nevermind the fact that this professer thinks that the 3 planes were ditched in the Atlantic to answer for the "so called" demolition.

4. Also noticed how tract-house architech, Gage dismissed Bob's totally legitimate question as to why the US gov needed to involve airplanes when it would have been more easier for them to claim that that the buildings were exploded?

Gage's dancing around that question of intent convinced me that all the 911 truthers should save some of that tinfoil incase I need it to pack a hot lunch.

Rod K  — Posted on November 29, 2009 09:17 PM

I was hoping for more. I believe that you tried to make it seem like you were just doing a balanced show, calling no favorites. It's plain for anyone to see that there are a multitude of unanswered questions around 9/11. This isn't some junior high debate to be moderated. This was an event of massive consequence. What would be wrong with a new investigation? Why was that question not asked? 40% to 60% of the populations of Canada and the US as you said do not believe the official story. A new, independant investigation is all us 'truthers' are after and it is extremely hard to find a valid reason to oppose this. We've got soldiers dying in a far off country because of this, and are paying billions for it as well. There were many glaring flaws with your program and that's just not good enough. How you could let that guy from Popular Mechanics tell people that America's air defences can only protect it from objects coming from outside it's airspace without questioning that is cause for alarm. That is a blantant lie, and a whopper of one at that. You should be ashamed of yourselves...

Jordan  — Posted on November 29, 2009 09:08 PM

Although I am pleased to see some form of re-examination of the 9-11 events, I was disappointed with the program overall. When I hear the expression "conspiracy theory", it is clear to me that there is only one tested conspiracy theory and that is the one presented by the government and the mainstream media. It is this rather improbable version of the events that fails close scrutiny.

There are a plethora of salient details that deserve examination, very few of which are hazarded by the present program. I might suggest only a few here:

1. The coincidence of many US military war games at the same time all positing the very scenario which took place. Interestingly, this coincidental strategy reappears in the London and Madrid bombings. Also interesting is the wide degree and extent of security of information of these events while allowing Ms Rice to insist that no such strategy could have been conceived by the Administration.
2. The unusual treatment of all evidence in this event, especially the remains or lack of remains of certain features such as the plane engines, and the coincidence of uniqueness of many elements such as the only three towers known to have ever collapsed, or the only plane wreckage sites not minutely examined and reconstructed, etc. For example, how credible is the official story of the location of the remains of the Shanksville and Pentagon crash sites?
3. The unusual coincidence of FEMA observers and telemetry positioned around the WTC on the day before the event, and as Mr Rumsfeld suggests to Congress that no explanation can be found for the misplacement of some 2.3 trillion dollars of defence spending.
4. The unusual behaviour of Israeli personnel within the North and South towers in the months prior to the event.
5. The clear inadequacy of the 9-11 Commission itself and the unusual timeline constraints placed upon all evidence and events examined.

I am certain that I could make a finer list of hundreds of unusual real events that make the official conspiracy theory quite untenable, but I think that these might suffice for the moment.

Sincerely,
R S Westera

Anonymous  — Posted on November 29, 2009 09:05 PM

Conspiracy theory or not, paranoia or not, these are not at issue. The truth remains whether one chooses to accept or not accept. The twin towers could not have fallen the way they did solely from the planes' impacts. This was evident from the beginning, and I am no engineer. More studies should be conducted to find out what happened and the media should fully support the truth being vehicled adequately to the public, whoever is responsible for this tragedy.

What happened to the (lady) FBI agent who signaled abnormal activity in a US airport where some presumed terrorists were learning to fly? She disapeared quickly from the media after the events... She must have some insight on the issue. Furthermore, what more should we know about the Bush-Bin Laden family relationship? Many, many questions remain unanswered.

There are many pieces to this puzzle: it takes patience, dedication and integrity to keep searching until you find them all. Those who were left behind after loosing loved ones following 9/11 deserve to know what really happened. Keep up the search, continue to ask questions regarding this issue. I applaud your neutrality in the matter. Courageous piece.

Evelyn Hardie  Ottawa — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:39 PM

Shame on you for giving media attention to nut cases involved with this conspiracy theory. I live close to the Pentagon and saw with my own eyes the plane hit the Pentagon from I-395 on my way to work in the District. I also use my cell phone regularly on private flights at altitudes around 10,000 feet and often leave my cell phone on for sending and receiving email in the first 15 minutes of commercial flights.....works great! It is clear you left out some easily proved contradicting facts so you can add credability to this conspiracy theory, however this is not surprising from a left-wing organization like CBC.

John  Alexandria — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:14 PM

It is time to understand that 9/11 had to happen.It allowed the present system to go on.To get Bin Laden troops went to Afganistan to secure pipeline(extra money comes from opium),Saddam who refused US dollar was eliminated and rip off of the rest of the world continued (US dollar to buy oil).Your lifestyle was saved and mainly bankers'pockets.What waits around the corner is complete downfall of US dollar and misery.
I wonder if real perpetrators of 9/11 have a plan for immediate future?
Are we going to be abandoned?
Did they find a greener grass?

eyeswideopen  Canada — Posted on November 29, 2009 07:41 PM

I'm in the process of watching this program and one problem I have with it so far is that you have inadvertently displayed William Rodrigues as one of the "truthers that get together every Septe . mber 11 to stir things up".

Mr. Rodrigues, as you should know, was a WTC employee of 20 years who has repeated said that there were explosions prior to the first crash - coming from BELOW him on the sub-ground levels. None of his testimony was used in the "official report".

Joren  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 07:36 PM

To be curious, to use different means to get answers on a specific subject is perfectly sane. If you hear that the Pentagon has been hit by a B757, you expect to see something about it on TV. Especially in an environment protected by so many cameras. Yet, for years, all you've been seeing is a little explosion, one ball of fire that extinguishes itself in seconds, and nothing else. We are talking about a B757 here, not a Cessna. I think that if I wanted somebody to believe the story of a crash of that magnitude in a building, I would have shown something serious that could support my pretentions. I am part of a group of flight instructors who are still questionning a lot of things that happened that day. Not because somebody had a different theory on it. Just because so many things didn't add up. Starting with the 911 Commission who evaded all the serious contradictions when it didn't fit in the accepted story. Yet I would not pretend that all truth will be known one day. Nor that I will be naive enough to think that only USA can plan those "false flags" for national interests. If somebody would take the time to scrutinize what other foreign powers did in the past 50 years in the name of global strategy or national interests, one would be surprised.

Frank  — Posted on November 29, 2009 06:32 PM

In my first comments I submitted a link to a site that I had created at the time of the 8th anniversary of 9-11
but it was not published. Here is the page without links:

Why do you believe What you believe...
on the 8th anniversary of 9-11?

Did 19 Arabs hijack 4 passenger planes?
Did 2 of these planes crash into Trade Towers 1 & 2?
Did one of these planes hit the Pentagon?
Did one of these planes crash into the ground in Pennsylvania?

Do you believe the official line?

Could this have been prevented?
Findings of The 911 Commission

Were there reports of explosions before and after the planes hit the towers?

Did Tower 2 stand for 55 minutes before it disintegrated?
Did Tower 1 stand for 1 hour and 42 minutes before it disintegrated?

Did Tower 7 collapse around 5:30 pm on that day?

Was Tower 7 hit by a plane?

Did a BBC reporter in New York announce the collapse of Tower 7 twenty minutes before it fell?

Was there a warning that Tower 7 was about to fall?

Was there a count-down before Tower 7 collapsed?

Did Silverstein say that there was a decision to "Pull it"?

Was the debris piles of Towers 1 & 2 higher than the debris pile of Tower 7?

Did Bush see the live telecast of the 1st Tower being hit?

Did Bush really see the live telecast of the 1st Tower being hit?

Did Bush believe that the U.S. was under attack?

Did Bush remain in the classroom after being notified of the 2nd tower hit?

Has a forensic examination of the debris of the collapsed towers ever been carried out?

Did it really take 441 days for a Commission to be established to investigate this attack?

Did Mineta really testify at the 9-11 Commission Inquiry?

Did Cheney say, "Of course the orders still stand..."?

Were 6 walls of the Pentagon penetrated by the aluminum nose of the 757?

Did the 2 engines of the plane make any impression on the walls of the Pentagon?

Did Barbara Olson call her husband, the US Soliciter General, twice from Flight 77?

Were all of the airplanes in the USA ordered to land asap?

Were Saudi Arabs allowed to depart from the USA several days later?

Did the FBI ever release the video taped evidence of the plane hitting the Pentagon?

Did the FBI ever claim that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9-11?

Will President Obama reply to Charlie Sheen's recent request for a new investigation?

Did Oswald kill Kennedy? or was it someone else?


Yocep  Southey — Posted on November 29, 2009 05:58 PM

Thanks again to the Fifth Estate team for having the guts to delve into this difficult but important issue. I think the repeated images of airliners hitting the towers and images of the collapses could have been more minimized as I believe this still offends many so they may resist watching a production on this subject.

The 2008 Angus-Reid poll in the links indicates that 45% of Canadians felt our government should call its own investigation into 9/11. Hopefully many Canadians will watch this production and put more pressure on government until we finally get a new honest investigation on behalf of the 24 Canadian victims and their families.

Dave Fodor  — Posted on November 29, 2009 05:29 PM

911 truthers and the official version of the story share one important thing in common - they are both very incomplete and, as a result, not very believable. The inexplicable and unnecessary delay in getting the 911 Commission going, the unrealistic tight time window for its operation and the significant underfunding show very plainly in the report's lack of comprehensiveness and is very worrying. The subservience of the US media to the government during the Bush years is also highly disturbing.

Having given the matter considerable thought and research in the intervening years, my personal opinion is that the three WTC towers came down as a result of fires caused by the plane crashes. I don't believe any theories about controlled demolition, not for a moment.

Why the hijacked planes managed to hit almost all of their targets unimpeded is something that is far less clear and far more worrying. I can think of two plausible explanations. The first is that elements of the US government sat on their hands waiting for something that they expected to happen so as to further an already well understood geopolitical agenda. The other plausible explanation I can think of is incompetence on an epic scale combined with an equal amount of cowardice in refusing to accept responsibility.

Much more needs to be said about this seminal event in US history. I encourage the CBC to continue this investigative effort.

David  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 03:13 PM

Mr J. Wyndels:

In 2001 you had a cell phone that was able to make calls at 30,000 feet? or 2009 you have a cell phone that is able to make a call from 30,000 feet? Please leave an answer because I really want to know if you mean in 2001 you were able to make calls.

Also, "What a thoughtless thing for someone to suggest that calls from their family members were faked by some government agency."

Please, lets not mix emotion with evidence. There is a new press release this week from pilots for 9/11 truth. Here is a brief excerpt:

"On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, ��all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers��[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]"

I'm not saying I know what happened, but lets look at the evidence and see what it has to say instead of ignoring it out of fear of offending victims families. A majority of the victims families do not buy the official story and are actively involved in the 9/11 truth movement. If there is evidence to suggest the official story is incorrect, then wouldn't you agree the best thing we can do to honour the dead is get to the truth of what happened?

Thank-you.

at ease  geoffpaterson.spaces.live.com — Posted on November 29, 2009 02:40 PM

My whole perspective on the world changed when I realized that the official 911 story was a big lie. What else are the TBTB capable of ? Folks make the viral ! People need to see the evidence ! Lots of evidence excluded from the documentary, but a good start nevertheless.

Stee=ve  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 01:03 PM

These conspiracy 'theories' have been shot-down repeatedly since 2006. It's more than a little shameful that "The Fifth Estate" would give voice to a group that includes people who insist that the WTC were never hit by airplanes and that all the eyewitnesses are either government agents or traumatised. Viewers of the show should perhaps investigate whether Richard Gage has ever designed an multi-storey building or not. I believe they'll find his 'expertise' to be a tad lacking.

All in all, even a cursory perusal of a forum like the James Randi (of "The Amazing Randi fame) Educational Forum would have demonstrated that the assertions by these 'truther experts' are made up out of whole cloth.

An embarrassing outing on the part of all involved in the production.

Joseph Willcocks  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 11:43 AM

When I started watching The Unofficial Story, I thought that it would be an examination of denialism, why seemingly normal, intelligent people believe improbable things. What kind of cultural climate causes this? I think this is a major problem for science and I was eager to get more information on this phenomenon.

To my shock and horror, the CBC presented the most credulous treatment of 9/11 "Truthers" I have ever seen. There was no serious attempt at rebuttal and no serious examination of some of the spurious claims of these people. Passengers can and do make cell phone calls from commercial airliners. Why was the claim that the cell phone calls were fake treated as anything more than a paranoid delusion?

The CBC also ignored some of the more ridiculous claims of the Truthers, perhaps to make them seem more credible as a group. Many Truthers wrap their claims up with anti-Semitism, claiming that Jews had prior knowledge and did not show up for work. I have seen many claim that the planes were holograms and that all of the victims are really in hiding somewhere.

I applaud the CBC's attempts at balance, but not all opinions are equal or deserve equal time. Would the CBC be so soft-handed with a Holocaust denier?


Leslie  Ottawa — Posted on November 29, 2009 10:47 AM

Hey CBC,

This might be a tough one to grasp, but if you all use rationality instead of emotions when analyzing the videos you will be fine. The first "crash-video" you show in this documentary is not actually showing a real airplane crashing into a building, it is showing a CGI-plane entering a building. The video is fake. End of discussion. Do a frame by frame analysis and you will see the wings disappear in mid-air, and the airplane melting into the building defying all laws of physics.

After this sinks in, its time to start scrutinizing the rest of the 911 videos. Good luck, we have much faith in you! :)


"THEY ARE LYING TO US" - Bill Hicks

Martin Larsen  Norway — Posted on November 29, 2009 10:14 AM

I am not amused.

The fact that The Fifth Estate even alluded to "unanswered questions" in 2009 shows that they haven't done their research. If they had, they would have realised that every single truther claim has been thoroughly disproven -- most of them for several years now. TFE could have ripped the truth movement to pieces with the bountiful supply of scientific evidence at hand. Instead they chose to give truthers a podium to preach their nonsense, while putting very little effort into actually refuting them.


Corey  Ontario — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:58 AM

Small steps, but it's happening.

Jack  Texas — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:37 AM


Why do people keep posting about "balanced reporting" and "both sides of the story". Why does the CBC think they need to do balanced reporting on this?

That applies in cases where there is an _opinion_ on the matter at hand. Take the matters of "capital punishment", "fighting in hockey", or "abortion". Those are controversial topics, because there are proponents of both sides. And people are allowed to be on either side, and that's okay. Its an -opinion- on which there is no right or wrong, just a personal judgement call.

9/11 on the other hand, is a matter of history. The events have already happened. We don't need to offer "respect" to two sides to the story out of completeness and sensitivity. Sure there are two versions, but one is true (ie: the controlled demolition/inside job), and one is false (U.S. government version).

You only need to cover a SINGLE version, and that is the TRUTH. History only has one side. Too bad you didn't have the _guts_ to take an extra step and say: "We, the CBC, no longer accept the US Government's account".

The evidence stacked side by side shows the Government pulled a fast one on us. The comments in this forum outline that the vast majority of viewers agree. And that the CBC didn't go far enough.


CBC -- please stop thinking you need to treat this as a "balanced story". Just deliver the truth...and actually DO that thing you say you do -- "Investigative Journalism". If you did any real investigation and removed your blinders, you could ONLY arrive at one conclusion.

.....(...oh, but since you're paid by the Canadian government, which is close pals with the US Government, that might be journalistic suicide? c'mon..... do your job !! )


Archie  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:34 AM

Many stories have two sides and there is no right or wrong. That is not the case for issues like the 9/11 �truthers�; there either was a conspiracy or there was no conspiracy, and the truth matters. The Fifth Estate titled �The Unofficial Story� was an abomination. It pretended to be balanced, but it is not reasonable to present a balanced position when one side is obviously wrong. What is needed is solid evidence not a bunch of talking heads spouting their beliefs. I am not a fan of Bush; I have nothing but loathing for the man for the very reason that this Fifth Estate was an abomination � he based decisions on beliefs rather than solid evidence and it was a disaster. Apart from the premise of the conspiracy theory being totally implausible � why would they go to all the trouble of changing planes, crashing the original planes into the Atlantic and use remote control to crash other planes into the Twin Towers and then plant all the explosives � why not just plant the explosives and blame it on terrorists? But more important, every point of the �Truthers� can easily be refuted. For example I still remember making thermite in chemistry class in high school. The mixture of powdered aluminum and iron oxide, when ignited, generates a large amount of heat and molten iron, which would rapidly weaken steel with heat (which is what the fires did) but it does not explode as claimed. The deposits found are much more consistent with melted computers which contain the same elements and there were thousands of computers in the building. And the supposed evidence in the video of explosions blowing out of the side of the building as it collapsed � can you imagine the pressure built up in the building as it collapsed � it had to escape somewhere and blowing out the windows can look like an explosion. Unlike chemistry, I am not an expert in cell phones, but I have seen people make cell phone calls from inside a plane while it is on the ground so the claim that that it would not work is clearly wrong, and the claim that above a thousand feet, reception would be impossible does not make sense. You do not have to be within a thousand feet of a tower to get reception and if anything reception in vertical distance rather than horizontal would only be better because there would be no obstruction. Reception in the air may not be reliable, but I am confident that it is not impossible as claimed. Except for the demolition expert, there was no scientific exploration of the claims. There are plenty of beliefs out there � what is needed is a careful exploration of the evidence. That is what the Fifth Estate has the resources to do and you failed miserably. You are no better than Fox news and McKeowen and the Fifth Estate should really be ashamed.

Jack Uetrecht  — Posted on November 29, 2009 08:11 AM

This documentary is a good example of how the media tries to control the public discourse. It is a demonstration of a conspiracy in progress, without the filmmakers even taking an interest in what actually happened on 9/11. They do know what side their bread is buttered on, though.

According to Richard Gage, the producer of the Fifth Estate, Oleh Rumak, accepted the terms put forward by Richard Gage that he would grant an interview provided the final documentary included evidence of free-fall, molten metal, iron-rich microspheres, nano-thermite chips, lateral ejections, and pulverized concrete. The documentary spends most of its time obscuring the significance of these issues and trying to encourage na�ve guests to speak beyond their areas of expertise. Predictably, some comply and voila, you've got yourself a few straw men and a documentary on conspiracy theory!

For instance, Bob McKeown asserts that NIST 'found' no traces of explosives. In fact, NIST claimed that it did not 'look for' evidence of explosives. Nice work, Bob.

McKeown is a reporter who is well enough informed to know that the passenger Mark Bingham often identified himself to his mother using both names and yet hasn't read Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Griffin's thorough debunking of the Popular Mechanics' article which is allowed to stand as the more authoritative scientific account. McKeown doesn't tell us that the evidence for nano-thermite, documented by PhDs in chemistry and physics, passed peer review in a scientific journal while the Popular Mechanics article was a poor hack job. Meanwhile, Griffin appears as a guest! In fact, McKeown took no advantage of Griffin's presence to pursue the real issues involved in 9/11. What terrible journalism!

There is an argument constructed throughout that concludes with the warning, voiced by a demolition 'expert' with no relevant expertise - we had just been introduced to nano-thermite and he knew nothing about it - that questioning 9/11 compromises America's status in global affairs. Precisely.

Curious viewers will now go elsewhere for real information and analysis. They will learn that the Fifth Estate not so distinguishable from the Second.

Paul Jackson  Montreal — Posted on November 29, 2009 07:33 AM

Mr Moderator ... how does the derogatory term "hoaxtards" meet your standards of approval??
Biased much??

Eric  Halifax — Posted on November 29, 2009 07:01 AM

Beyond all the literally thousands of discrepancies in the official story of 9/11 is an even more important phenomena ... and that is the attack on reason, logic and sanity that these operations represent. I just saw another documentary that supposedly supports the lone gunman theory of JFK's killer. The evidence was the blood spatter pattern on the inside of the Kennedy's limo which was seen by two "witnesses" as it sat in front of the emergency entrance to the hospital where he was taken. From their testimony ...the "documentary" sets out to claim that the blood patterns prove that Kennedy was shot only from behind. Interestingly enough ... there is only a very short explanation as to why they have to rely on these eyewitnesses for the description of the blood pattern. Apparently "someone" ... came up to the limo as it pulled up to the emergency ... with a bucket of water and a sponge .. and cleaned up all the blood! The biggest crime scene in the modern history of the U.S. (excluding 911) and somebody can just walk up to it and start cleaning it up ...! give me a break. Of course no investigative effort is made to find out who this person was or how it possibly could be allowed to happen. Of course not ... Sort of like how all the steel from the Trade Towers was conviently shipped out of the country as quick as possible ... except for a few bits of debris that ended up in a lab in Denmark where they have found that it contains traces of military grade high explosive nanothermite. How about talking about this CBC ???? ... and you wonder why mainstream media is going down the tubes ?? because you have no fortitude to search for the real truth .. and the common man through the power of the internet can learn more for himself than your shallow attempts at "journalism" can provide.

Eric  Halifax — Posted on November 29, 2009 06:58 AM

This show was amazing!! Thank you so much for having the world see the truth.

I always loved the US entrepreneurial spirit as opposed to the Canadian conservative attitude. However, now I am so happy that I live in Canada. I think Canada will be awakened much sooner than the States, and it's because of good people like those at the CBC.

For Truth Activists, I created a tool we can use to get the word out and transform humanity. Please share it and let's change the world together.

Danish Ahmed  — Posted on November 29, 2009 05:34 AM

It is by now clear that a REAL independent investigation with subpoena power is needed.
The official fairy tale was the basis for starting two wars. Too many innocent people have died in these unnecessary wars.

Lennart  Sweden — Posted on November 29, 2009 03:43 AM

Before I ever heard any of the scientific arguments, a few things made me suspicious about 9/11. On Sept. 12, when Bush announced the War on Terror, there was something about his demeanour and expression that rang strange to me, but I couldn't put my finger on it. The replays of Bush's facial expression, when in the classroom he had just been told about the second tower, convinced me that something was amiss. This was not a normal reaction for a leader in his position! At the outset of the Iraq war, I learned for the first time, from a French commentator on TV, about the Project for the New American Century. In my follow up research, it was such a revelation to see in print that Bush's cronies had speculated about a catastrophic event like Pearl Harbour. Then my suspicions were solidified forever. I had not been influenced by "truthers". Something just smelled bad from the beginning. And I haven't been able to shake it off.

Linda  Toronto — Posted on November 29, 2009 03:42 AM

Blanchett lied when he said there was no freefall in WTC 7's collapse, this is a crucial and verifiable point that proves WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Freefall can only occur if all the structural elements have been removed simultaniously, that cannot be achieved through fire or through one columns failure. The only mechanism that can achieve this is precision engineered controlled demolition techniques.

Freefall for 2.25 seconds, or approximately 8 stories, occured early in the collapse of WTC 7.

THIS IS OFFICIALLY RECOGNISED, so why was Blanchett allowed to say freefall didn't occur without challenge?

Blind Freddy can see WTC 7 was an implosion, and now thank's to this CBC programme so can millions of Canadians, well done.

L_D  Australia — Posted on November 29, 2009 02:20 AM

Probably the best, if not the only, mainstream media production on the subject of 9/11, I've seen to date.

By and large, the producers maintained focus on evidence and kept the sneering ridicule to a minimum.

A fair hearing was extended to the interviewees.

The program certainly revealed the paucity of evidence and cohesive reasoning behind the anti-truth movement.

In his closing remarks, the presenter claimed the program was not intended to support one side of the controversy over the other, and I think they succeeded fairly well, considering the standard we're used to from the mainstream media.

John Scrivener  Australia — Posted on November 29, 2009 02:16 AM

I have tried to follow what is being discussed about the 9/11 attacks. Your program only touched on a tiny fraction of some of the issues and evidence and was done well.

The thing that I have noticed with programs addressing this issue is the lack of any U.S. government reports. This is an event that has changed human history, yet there has been very little investigation by the U.S. government in to this event. To argue against the Truth Movement, your program had to turn to the editors of Popular Mechanic Magazine, while the Truth Movement has architects, engineers, actors, military personnel and many more professionals. There are also hundreds of witnesses who were at the scene who doubt the official story.

It took more than 400 days for the Bush administration to even call an investigation in to why the buildings fell that day, and only because of pressure from the families of victims.

Any disaster, whether it is a bridge collapsing in Minneapolis, or the disintegration of the space craft Discovery immediately have an investigation called to find out what went wrong. In this case it appears the Bush administration didn't want to know.

In this situation, it is only natural for people to try to find answers to their questions especially when the results of these attacks were the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan has ended up costing the lives of many of our young soldiers.

I applaud you for tackling this issue, but you have only touched the surface.

Barry Pattern  — Posted on November 29, 2009 12:27 AM

On Feb 15, 2003, I marched with millions of citizens worldwide against the war in Iraq. Millions worldwide saw through the lies the mainstream media (including the CBC) spun for public consumption.

A few years later the mainstream media caught up with the citizens of the world - wow, there were no weapons of mass destruction (... oh, except for the depleted uranium dust that has destroyed the cradle of civilization ... thanks America ...).

Today, the CBC 'bravely' speaks truth to power via a 'fair and balanced' approach to 911 truth ...

Who made all the money on the 'put options' predicting the demise of the airline stock affected by 911?

Who continues to make all the money on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Killing is for profit. JFK was moving toward a peace economy (bang!). MLK was organizing against war/promoting peace (bang!). RFK wanted to end war in Vietnam (bang!).

September 11 ... perpetual war on terror ... Truth (bang!)

The citizens of the world are waking up ... we want peace. No more lies, please.

ps. How do all those people 'on the inside' keep things quiet ... see the Manhattan Project (comment above, good point!)

My Canada doesn't torture. Does yours?


Catherine Pradier  Heavenonearth — Posted on November 29, 2009 12:11 AM

You have joined the latest fall fashions in government crime cover ups. It started a few years ago sporadically, but by this year many have appeared. First it starts with the 9/11, then followed by the JFK assassination. As more and more facts are uncovered, more and more cover ups are needed to misrepresent the facts uncovered. For JFK, they will release the truth come 2039, when all that the government knew will exposed... except for the black outs, which will be 95% of what will be released... nice of Oswald to order the hiding of documents, being the king pin that he was... ha ha.

Your cover up includes all the staples: ad hominem of scientists and scholars; sneering by the so-called objective journalist doing the show; laymen augmented to final word experts, like the claims that hundreds of thousands had to have been in on it and the US military is notoriously sloppy, without noting the sheer folly of a few cave dwellers armed with box cutters executing flawlessly the take down of the largest most sophisticated military ever known... no sneers or suggestions that a problem may exist with this obvious omission of blind.

Of course blind faith is what kangaroo courts live on, like the media court that had solved the mystery within 20 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the World Trade Center. Accordingly, kangaroo courts railroaded the public into fantasy land that Osama bin Laden and his merry men magically alluded the kingdoms defenses... then made the US President blame him and call off a Crime Scene Investigation (CSI).

The victims families begged for a year for a CSI and Bush gave them his highly suspect commission, whose co-chairmen Thomas Keene and Lee Hamilton have said that the commission was set up to fail. Why? because Bush's hand picked henchman Philip Zelikow was given control over what information was allowed and what was omitted.

So the victims families recently turned to the citizens of New York, asking them to endorse a referendum to initiate a true CSI. They got the 80,000 signatures needed to force a referendum to the ballot. So what did the City of New York do (more suspect actors in the coverup)? They simply denied the referendum, but before it was all over, they were forced to admit that no CSI of 9/11 has ever taken place.

So let me ask you all at the 5th Estate. Who has the right or power to derail a legally required CSI? Osama bin Laden? the mayor of New York? the governor of the state? the President of the United States? None of them have a legal right to deny the solving of a crime, especially the biggest crime in US history. Surely, the collective intelligence of the 5th Estate can muster up enough savvy to utter doubt about the official hysterical account of 9/11 boogie men from Afghan caves wielding magical powers and monstrous box cutters.

Mr. McKeown's sneering nonbelivers of the caveman/boogie-man theory makes him a credulous buffoon. Maybe you could focus on just one magical issue at a time instead of a collage of nonsense.

Try explaining to the public how no steel building has ever collapsed from fire, yet, magically, 3 skyscrapers did so on 9/11 defying all science. You could start with the worst steel structured fire ever recorded. It blazed for nearly 24 hours and no collapse. Yet, when the 2nd plane hit, the first tower had only black smoke to offer viewers, the clear sign that the fires were minimal... and why a fire chief called down for two lines to knock it out, meaning, two hoses to put out the remaining fire.

Good luck...

Bo Filter  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:46 PM

My conclusion is that it was a hit piece. Sure it gave some time to Gage, but he was only able to scrape the surface when it came to the hard evidence.

- Nanothermite - This is a smoking gun yet McKewon glosses over it. A real journalist would delve into it.
- Molten metal at Ground Zero mentioned as an aside - and where's the discussion of its implication, i.e. that office fires / jet fuel cannot melt steel. Another smoking gun.
- Deliberate confusion over the collapse of WTC7. The demolition expert "shill" was discussing how WTC1&2 didn't look like a controlled demolition (and no they don't look like a conventional one). He said the sides bowed out. The program created the impression that he was talking about building 7 and discrediting that. Why wasn't he shown commenting on WTC7 specifically and clearly - what could he say - it looks exactly like a demolition?

So while it was good to get some airtime, a fifth grader could have but together a more cogent argument on the CT side. Which leads me to think it was deliberate.

The fact is, a properly constructed argument using the hard evidence that Gage presents is pretty much irrefutable. People would be left with a choice - 1. believe it is a conspiracy with dozens or hundreds of people involved. Yes that is hard. Or 2. believe that for 1 day only on 911, the Good Lord / the Universe, lifted the laws of physical science and all kinds of strange physical never seen before phenomena were allowed to occur. Now that is impossible.


Ted Wright  London — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:37 PM

Shoddy journalism CBC. You have an expert saying that you would need 100 tons of professionally placed thermite to demolish one of the three buildings that collapsed. And yet less(fuel expended) than 78.66 tons of kerosene(jet fuel), haphazardly distributed, brought down all three buildings. I guess the demolition industry needs to rethink their explosive of choice.

You really need more people that actually think on your journalism team.

Thanks for treating us like we're stupid.

Dan Wolf  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:29 PM

For those of us that have extensively studied this subject, we have to give your program a failing grade for the 1 hour program aired this week. In fairness, the subject cannot be covered without a series involving many hours. The conspiracy evidence is overwhelming and when considered in it's totality, indisputable. However , with the "Dumbing-Down" of CBC in the last decade, any extensive effort at full disclosure of 9-11 on the part of your often courageous investigative people will be amputated by CBC managment (as usual). Very sad commentary and disappointing for those of us loyal Mother Corp supportive viewer/listener(s)of many decades. Frank

Frank  Winnipeg — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:13 PM

Something I remember on a tv report that was hours after the 9/11 incident,all planes were grounded even the President of the United States plane,then why was the plane that carried Prince Banhdar and allegedly Osama Bin Laden allowed to take off.

There can be only one answer, the intelligence services NSA,CIA,DIA all knew in advance who was on that plane.As far as Bin Laden being in Afghanistan,well I believe he is living in the good old USA hiding in plain sight. Remeber the Nazi scientists that the USA hid in order to further their interest in missiles etc..then why would they not do something like this to sway the people of the US who were tired of sending sons and daughters to war,they crazy amounts of money spent on defence.Then their golden goose was starting to get trimmed up as the congress started cutting defence spending by billions o dollars and a president that was losing popularity very quickly.9/11 gave Bush 100% ability to invoke powers where he did not need the approval of the congress to enact war powers.It consolidated the people who acknowledge giving Bush cart blanch to do what he wanted,which was to invade Iraq and afghanistan under the pretext of searching for terrorist responsible for 9/11.Then they install a puppet government Hamid Karzai who is corrupt and continues to line his pockets with money from the US.What is this all about? Oil pure and simple,Karzai will provide the US with cheap and an abundance of it and in turn the US will keep Karzai in power.Cas in point the recent elections in Afghanistan,first you have many candidates then all of a sudden none,why..one just has to wonder.

Dan Desmarais  Toronto,Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:03 PM

Though much of the evidence was glossed over, and a lot omitted - your show was a relatively palatable introduction to some of the evidence 911 truthers rally behind . Although, this being your second foray into the subject, I had expected more.

Richard Gage stole the show. Speculation does a lot to undermine the 911 truth movement. The growing body of evidence speaks for itself, and warrants further legitimate investigation.

It's obvious that a show like the fifth estate could do some nitty gritty investigative work of it's own, to validate or refute claims made by both sides. Instead, you keep a professional distance, like an aloof marriage counselor.

The fifth estate, and other CBC programs like market place and doc zone are usually quite good, and don't tend to shy away from much. I know the CBC's budget was severely cut by the government this year, and adjustments were made. I hope your b---s weren�t up on that same chopping block.

glen  antigonish — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:56 PM

As time passes, I see more willingness on behalf of the mainstream media to approach this topic. That said, I still saw some blatently obvious opportunities missed in this documentary. For starters, why wouldn't Mr Mckeowen ask the folks at NIST or Popular Mechanics why they won't debate the truth movement on live television? Charlie Sheen has given the open invitation and CNN had even agreed to do it live on Larry King. No takers.

Second, the fellow that was a so-called controlled demolition expert. The graphs they showed were completely irrelevant. There was no proper explanation of them nor was there any time line shown for them. There is video evidence of the very camera that was set on the buildings shaking in the seconds prior to the collapse.

While I must say that this is probably the fairest mainstream doc I have seen air on the CBC or the History Channel, (not that I would assign either any credibility to begin with) it still only scratches the surface.

The people who dismiss the truth movement that I have encountered generally have no knowledge of the geopolitical implications of the attack and others like it. You heard Richard Gage say he only became interested in this 3.5 years ago. If you would like to see/hear a man who has been all over 9/11 truth since the day it happened, google or youtube "Alex Jones Show 9/11/01. At 11am central time, Alex came on the radio and said "Well, I've been warning about this for some time now...." He is the grandaddy of 9/11 truth.

at ease  — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:11 PM

Thank you for airing another hit piece on 9/11. Like all the others, you portray the Truth Movement as a bunch of crazies. No worries. Some will see through your smoke screen and become curious enough to start looking at the evidence of controlled demolition.

The 5th Estate video has Richard Gage AIA talking about the free fall of WTC 7 while showing the south tower collapse. Later they show Mr. Gage talking about the free fall acceleration of WTC 7 and then cut to Brent Blanchard saying the trade Towers did not fall at free fall speed. This is intended to make people think Mr. Gage is talking about the Trade Towers and an internationally recognized demolitions expert is refuting what Richard Gage AIA has just said.

That is FRAUD!
Fraud: something that is intended to deceive people

Chris Sarns  California — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:06 PM

Hoaxtards will always be hoaxtards.

Peter  Toronto — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:03 PM

In addition to my previous post here...

As a pilot I was insulted by the suggestion from a gentleman on the program that cell phone use is "impossible." At the altitude these aircraft were at a cell phone call could have been easily placed. I can say that with confidence as I've made calls before from the cockpit during points when there were radio problems. It is a suggested way to attempt contact with ATC or FSS stations during communication problems or failures along with other methods.

What a thoughtless thing for someone to suggest that calls from their family members were faked by some government agency.

Furthermore I found it very interesting how all of the guests on the �truther� side always had an excuse when they couldn�t answer a question. They seemed rather defensive in my opinion.


J. Wyndels  Steinbach — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:00 PM

With all these instant experts on controlled demolition of buildings on hand to make comments, where are the professionals in this business? I have never heard of one professional in the controlled demolition business say that the WTC was brought down by one. Just maybe this is because it wasn't.
Some of the stupidest comments I have ever heard come from the mouths of 9/11 truthers. They should join the lunar lander conspiracy nuts.

David McLay  Scarborough — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:58 PM

One of the best programs on TV.
I am always sceptical of a shows authenticity though when they don't know all their facts. You talked abouy "scrambling F15 fighters" and then show an F16 and then an F18. Small point I know but what else did you get wrong?

Chris  Vamcouver — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:52 PM

Thank-you very much Bob McKeown. I may again love the CBC if its delivering this type of reporting.

Aside from the Truthers theories crumbling under the slightest scrutiny, I find it fascinating that this movement exists at all.

What is it about this time in our history, a time of unparalleled levels of science, knowledge and logic, that our society generates these paranoid views of the world?

joe_public  toronto — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:44 PM

All I'm going to say is what about building seven..... why did building seven collapse?
Can anyone answer that one, the other buildings no problem, but why a lone building fell.....if you want to do a story, look at this one.
thanks

Joe Smile  ontario — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:29 PM

Like many people I believed the "official" story since day one. It wasn't until just 3 months ago I finally stopped to actually think about it. The evidence for a conspiracy by the US government is overwhelming. I've been waiting three months for something, anything, to be said about this by the mainstream media. The silence was mystifying. Thanks for finally doing your job, hopefully others will follow and the true story will finally be revealed with a proper investigation and those responsible will be brought to justice. Just a lot of killing and bullshit so far.

Frank Lomer  — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:16 PM

It has been over 46 years now that JFK was shot. A few less since the general public was able to see the Zapruder film, which related the events of that day. In that film, everyone can clearly see JFK's head exploding backward while his wife tries to pick up some pieces of it on the trunk of the limousine. And, most people know that Lee Harvey Oswald was presumed to be at the Texas School Book Depository, situated behind Kennedy.

Now. If in 2009, we still have new documentaries coming out about this event that keep on saying LHO was a lone shooter, what does it tell you? How soon are we going to see the Truth come out? What can we expect from the mainstream Media?

I am not talking about Conspiracy Theories here. I am not trying to tell you who shot Kennedy or who was behind the attack of September 11. All I am pointing out is that in both these historical events, the US government stories just don't hold up to plain ol' facts and even lie to the face of what we can see with our own eyes.

I appreciated CBC's effort for at least airing some of the information it did this Friday. I regret the fact that it was not investigative reporting but merely the presentation of two divergent points of view. Maybe it's a first step.

CD67  Montreal — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:15 PM

This is an excellent and fairly balanced report. It is heartening to see such support in the comments. Please cover this issue more, thanks!

Brian  Calgary — Posted on November 28, 2009 07:56 PM

I�m all for talking truth to power. But, the so called Truth Movement�s scenario really does defy sound reasoning. What we get is a collection of specious arguments...and a good case for nationalized remedial physics. Shame on the Fifth Estate for soft-balling this story.

Daniel M.  — Posted on November 28, 2009 07:55 PM

For a crime scene, of this magnitude, and the loss of three thousand plus lives, it is strange it was immediately off limits to investigators/police, and the cleanup began almost immediately. This is ludicrous!. A holdup at the corner gas bar has yellow crime scene tape around it longer. Also there are so many unanwered questions, the authorites should be willing to go to great depths to get ALL the facts, and answers. As long as one question remains outstanding, there will always be uncertainty, and right now there are hundreds of unanswered questions which the officials have not addressed, but chose to cover up..Why? What are they hiding? Why are they so paranoid about an investigation? An example of some of the issues:
-Building seven collapse has never been addressed, and Silverteins famous words on PBS.."they decided to pull the building" Hmm industry term for controlled demolition.
-The financial benefits to Silvertstein who only acquired the buildings, a short time before and made sure he had insurance to cover all the events thats occured..a windfall gain for him.
-The WTC towers were losing money, and the port authority had tried to obtain demolition permits before and were unsuccessful..so 9/11 eliminated the requirement for permits...how convenient!
-the lack of military fighter plane response
-free fall speed fall of buildings...if official story buildings would have tipped over, would not been uniformly weakened
-structural steel cut with cutter charges.. the pieces that were thrown out, show clearly they were cut, at about 35 ft lengths,
-and the list goes on and on..the point being the official story is just that, a fictional story with very few ties to the reality of what actually happened that day.
And the official story wants us to believe a fellow living in a cave in Afghanistan, would be able to direct a sophisticated operation like this through 19 motley Arabs, in the USA, and defeat the whole USA intelligence network, and the US airport security, and US military/Norad and be able to fly these complex jumbo jetliners to a target such as the WTC buildings, or Pentagon..now that is a conspiracy theory for sure!
Oh and a number of the highjackers are know to be still alive..and sixteen of the nineteen were Saudi .. so why not invade Saudi Arabia instead of Afghanistan or Iraq??

Jim  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 07:31 PM

One thing I found annoying during the program was Bob Mckeown's smirks, impatient"I've already made up my mind" looks, and general lack of any open mindedness , unfortunately slants this reportage .
There were too many "sound bite" moments and a very slick BBC device , characterizing Richard Gage as a "cult figure"..sly..tricky.
The very fact that this ... from the National Post was allowed any time at all, further pushes the slant of this program. The fact that BBC announces thew "collapse of the Solomon Brothers building some 25 minutes before it happens, is tacitly avoided. Allowing the dude from Popular Mechanics to speak etc.. from that point we see how "doubt" is sown into the viewers mind and how smoothly the program "sound bites" its way through very complex questions about physics, chemistry, etc. In fact you could call this a "hit piece" by omission.

I am glad that Richard Gage stood his ground and avoided "speculating"..though Mr Mckeown would have loved to see Richard become a real"nut case"

It is unfortunate that real "crime of the century" has occurred , right in front of us, that because of 911 our liberties and rights as Canadians are slowly being whittled away.
Real journalism, isn't afraid to ask the tough questions, like what Bob Woodward did in the 70's.

What is preventing people from asking questions, about the "Official conspiracy theory", is that if you do,,,you can come to only one conclusion. A group of people, within the US establishment, deliberately murdered its own and many nationals on Sept 11th 2001, for what reason we will not know until there is a REAL, Independent..investigation.
3/10 for the CBC at least having the cajones to broach this question.

Raila Odinga  Kenya — Posted on November 28, 2009 07:20 PM

Thank you CBC. You have finally pulled your head out of the sand, and some of you must think you've stuck your neck out. You have, but not far enough. You put many of the right people on camera, but far too briefly. This subject deserves to be an 8-part series. Your time constraint left out so much that is fascinating and illuminating. The earlier false flag op known as Northwoods. The war games and military exercises going on the day of the attacks -- far, far away. The neo-con declaration that their political agenda required a 'new Pearl Harbor'. The myriad of eye-witness accounts at ground zero of explosions in the twin towers prior to collapse. The buildings owners' timely insurance policy for coverage of damages from terror attacks. The incredible amount of incriminating evidence that went down with the collapse of WTC #7. The very small hole put into the Pentagon where a jetliner was said to hit. The fact there was no true crash site in Pennsylvania, just debris scattered over many square miles - and no bodies of victims. The behaviour of George Bush on hearing the news in a Florida schoolroom where no extra security measures were taken though 'America was under attack'. The preposterous claims by Condoleeza Rice that no one could have imagined smashing planes into buildings when many of the US military war game scenarios were just that plan. The true identity and history of the hijackers in the U.S. This isn't the half, CBC. You have tapped a rich vein - go ahead and mine it! It has plenty to do with Canada. Canada took a hit on 9-11 too; many Canadians died. Our military and intelligence network is intimately linked to the US inclination toward world domination. If the CBC has the guts to break the whole picture to the mass media it will have secured its place in media history forever. You have access to the Canadian politicians and you must confront them with their responsibilities to seek the truth for the public good. Thanks for the opportunity to respond to the excellent work by 'the fifth estate'.

David Moore  — Posted on November 28, 2009 06:52 PM

Hi,

I was pleasantly surprised to see your show as fair and balanced. I was expecting another corporate white wash to be honest. Thanks.

I too find the official story deficient. I have done quite a lot of reading on the subject over the years.

The crux of the matter for me is the temperature of the building fires and the melting of the structural steel. I have an engineering background and, although metallurgy is not my field, it has seemed to me from the outset very unlikely that the fires, fueled by jet fuel (essentially kerosene), (or whatever in the case of building 7) burning only orange in colour and obviously not going to complete combustion as evidenced by the black smoke plumes, could melt the structural steel to such a complete, simultaneous and symetrical collapse. Even with the impact damage, the differences between the likely fire temperatures and the working temperatures of the steel seem miles apart. The symmetry of all 3 of the collapses is particularly troubling to me when considering the official explanation and how unevenly what heat there was, was distributed across the floor plan of the buildings. Other steel frame buildings elsewhere have burned longer and hotter without structural failure. I just don't buy it that the only steel structures ever to fall from fire, did so in this one place on this one day.

Without this fire/collapse lynch pin, the rest of the story collapses as did the buildings. I don't know how or by whom explosives could have been introduced, but if one explanation is ruled out by fact and logic then something else must be true. Close and honest examination of the physical evidence is called for. Alas its missing.

I find the rapid disposal of the steel evidence (to Chinese recyclers I understand) to be just as damning as LBJ's next day, thorough, immediate clean up and rejuvenation of the JFK presidential limousine. The evidence was disposed of and the crime scenes cleansed. It stinks to treasonous high heavens! Only officialdom it seems to me could perpetrate such obvious acts of cover up and so the conclusion seems inescapable.

Very conveniently oil rich areas of the world needed to be invaded in immediate retribution. The narrative served as a clarion call to patriots. It seemed tailor made for the purpose. Given similar now debunked catalyst events of prior history, like the 1898 sinking of the USS Maine, Pearl Harbour, Gulf of Tonkin and the proposed operation Northwoods, fool some of the people all of the time comes to mind.

Henry Kissinger as first proposed head of the official investigation seemed a dead giveaway also that a whitewash was in the works. As if that man didn't have enough blood on his hands already!

Perhaps one day we might know the truth, although I am not holding my breath. (Almost 50 years have elapsed and Oswald still dun it.) For now I think the conclusion for rational thinking people is obvious, psychopaths run the world. Likely this is nothing new and the best one can do is to be aware that it is so and live as best one can accordingly. Easy for me to say, not so easy for the poor bastards and generations yet unborn in the depleted uranium dusted war zones! I despair and wish I had the power to make it otherwise but alas such will always be life in the community of man I fear. That is until such time as a collective atomic suicide, as part of the machinations of one or another of these madmen brings the party to an end once an for all.

Thanks for the opportunity to vent. Please continue the good work to expose what truths you can get away with.

Brian H.

brian hambleton  — Posted on November 28, 2009 06:33 PM

A special thanks to CBC for airing The Unofficial Story. Regrettably, Bob McKeown has left viewers unsatisfied with biased interview techniques and fragmentary reporting; our questions remain unanswered.

To quote Brent Blanchard "...How are you still cutting hundreds of them... in order... which is what was required to make the building collapse."

If a radical amount of explosives are required to cut hundreds of beams to make a building collapse, how did three buildings simply collapse with comparably lesser damage by two airplanes?�

To quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

Dwayne Baldwin  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 06:27 PM

Probably the least embarassing 911 conspiracy documentary I've seen on network T.V. Usually, these programs start out by saying that they'll try to be unbiased and then make truth seekers look like Foil-headed crazies. The choice of 911 truth advocate should have been Barry Zwicker who would have been more eloquent than someone speculating about drones, radio control, and ditching planes in the Atlantic (see Operation Northwoods.) I also wish more time would be spent looking at other aspects of 911 than the obvious controlled demolition of the three buildings; Like the fact that George W, when asked on his way TO Booker Elementary on that fateful morning for his thoughts on "The events in New York City," replied, "I'll have more on that later." This despite telling America months later that he learned of the events of that morning from watching the FIRST plane hit the tower on a TV set at the school!! Also, the fact that there were several war games going on that morning designed to paralyze the FAA and limit the number of fighters able to respond(?) to the hijacked planes; (for a parallel, see the emergency drills that were taking place in London on 7/7 at the exact same tube stations and bus routes at the exact same time as the bombings.) The peculiar behavior of General Meyers, Donald Rumsfeld, or Big Dick Cheney (who, in all the excitement of the morning forgot to call Donny at the Pentagon to give the heads up that a commercial airliner was bearing down on the very centre of US military might! No mention of the lack of response of the secret service at the elementary school whose sole duty would have been to get the President of the most powerful nation the HECK away from his well publicized location as it surely would have been considered a potential target. "I didn't want to upset the children." Bush has said. Did no one think of asking "So you stayed there and made them potential victims of an attack that you had no way of knowing the depth and breadth of, right? No one questions Operation Bojinka, which was a foiled plan to blow up US-bound planes over the Pacific? Or the dozens of warnings that were flooding in from Intelligence sources worldwide? "We couldn't foresee anyone using planes as weapons" (or was it planes as MISSILES, Mr. Rumsfeld, Ms. Rice, Mr. Cheny? funny how the truth slips out sometimes, isn't it?) No, we always focus on the buildings. If the buildings remained standing, I wonder if we would be where we are today? And what Larry Silverstein would do to make ends meet without his massive Terrorist Atack Insurance payout. Thanks CBC for not treating those of us with intelligence like fools. Please, though, press further. Too many Canadian men and women are being sacrificed to keep the waters of this Monumental Lie muddied.

JoeEdmonton  Edmonton — Posted on November 28, 2009 06:12 PM

I noticed that you avoided the incisive Zwicker in favour of the more easily punctured Dewdney, but Bravo for having the courage to yell "Nano-Thermite" in a crowded auditorium.

Dare I hope for a follow-up ?

Canada'a Most Watched News Panel?
Bwahahaha just kidding, you guys are alright.

trout  Victoria — Posted on November 28, 2009 06:06 PM

again, the notion that this conspiracy would have to involve THOUSANDS of people keeping quite is rediculous. lots of people have come forward about prior knowledge of the attacks. similarly, government officials were ordered to halt investigations into Osama and the supposed hijackers well before the attacks.

as for the ability to keep it quite - thats just ridiculous. how easy is it to discredit people who claim the story doesnt add up? VERY. take Sibel Edmunds for example . the plot itself need only involve a small number of the super-elite (not necessarily in government), the cia, fbi, and a few other foreign intelligence services (namely Pakistan and Israel). from there, you hire friendly contractors to do explosives and recruit key military and norad officials who are likely corrupt in the first place. Old Boys networks exist everywhere, and it would be naive to assume they dont exist in government.

like a poster before mentioned, lots of large plots have been kept secret for decades without the story leaking - the 1934 Business plot, the nuclear program, the nazi final solution, Gulf of Tonkin.

Tthe best evidence to disprove this ridiculous asumption that it would only take one person to blow the conpiracy wide open is the fact that many of the plotters involved with the JFK murder HAVE come clean. take Howard Hunt and James Files for example, not to mention LBJ's mistress. the list is endless. yet here we are today and people are still foolish enough to think their's no evidence of a conspiracy.

sumguy  kingston — Posted on November 28, 2009 05:48 PM

It amazes me when people think the US would not attack their own people. It goes on daily here in the US. The country has been taken over by a bunch of thugs who have set out to destroy the fabric of the USA and steal everything they can from us. They have taken our homes. They have steadily stolen all of our wealth and continue to escalate the cost of everything while maintaining low wages. They have eliminated our jobs and left many families hungry and homeless. They have murdered our citizens and those of other countries in countless wars, and on 9-11. And we could well be in the throws of mass genocide with vaccines. We are no longer the nation our founding fathers had envisioned us to be. Until this cabal is removed from the planet the citizens of the US remain prisoners of their regime. It is time for us to wake-up and take back our country from the corporate war mongers, genocidal abusers and manipulators of market forces and restore our nation back to peace, love, and freedom for all.

KC  — Posted on November 28, 2009 05:36 PM

This was a good start, but has a long way to go if you want me to believe the CBC is actually attempting to report on the whole issue.

For example: I heard a minute or two about thermite.
I dod not hear why "thermite" is the reason there was no siesmic record. Thermite doesnt do that.
Thermite does produce a certain material as a by product of its reaction when ignited. Molten Iron. I did not see one picture of the many documented pictures of the huge pools of molten iron found at the base of the rubble piles under the 2 towers, and building 7. Co-incidentally, those building were suppsed to have collapsed due to fire.

The proof is so clear, why did the CBC skip out on such a huge peice of key evidence. The well documented fact that huge pools of molten iron were found, and only under the 3 buildings which collapse dsupiciously at free fall speed, as if controled demolitios were at hand.


Like I said, Good start, but please, investigate further. there is a tom more to this story than what the CBC has reported so far.

I would like to hear about how the cith of NY had ordered the towers condemned if the asbestos was not properly removed by a certain date. That is fact. there is fact out there to support a lot of the "Theories" about motive.
Silverstien Properties, Gold Bars worth billions, dissapeared just to name 2.

Also, The CBC commented that hundreds of tons of thermite would have been required, and that exposing the columns would be a big messy job. But the CBC didnt report the facts that hundreds of people working in the WTC reported floors being closed off for weeks, for "Maintenance" and also reported a layer of dust over everything, every morning for weeks. SOunds to me like someone could easily have had the access, time and resources to set the exposives beforehand, especially if they were ultra rich, and in a position of power like perhaps owning the securuty firm providing security to the towers. Does the Name BUSH come to mind here?

Again CBC, good start, but I think you only touched the tip of the pyramid of facts. Lets hear the rest.

Mikeebee  — Posted on November 28, 2009 05:02 PM

I think there are a lot of questions that need to be answered about the official 9/11 report and until they are the murmuring will understandably never stop.
A growing perception among the people of mistrust of their own governments in events of the magnitude of those on September 11, 2001 is not something that our elected representatives should ignore. Failure to soon allay with honesty and truth such growing anxiety could be disastrous for our democracy. A request from we the taxpayers for an independent unbiased investigation of the matter is not too much to ask.

Cannibuslegalizationadvocate  — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:58 PM

To watch this story presented as Journalism was an insult to my intelligence and that of all Canadians. To watch the moderator smerk at some of the experts has done a lot of damage to your claim to be investigative journalists. All you had to do is deal with just one of the major questions posed by the the Truth group and your program would have been a hit. Instead it was an ineffective attempt to smear the non believers in the official story as a bunch of lunitics. The fifth estate has joined the ranks of the mainstream media that are afraid to speak the truth. Your show would be a real international hit if it did try to air the truth. Instead it is just another avenue of disinformation and another beacon of hope for truth has bit the dust. Now if you were true journalists you would have more focused and real programs, that really try to get at the truth. But You won't. Like the rest of them you don/t have the guts but worse than that you pretend that you really are truth seekers. Shame on you all of you.

Dr. Peter J. Morry  — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:46 PM

There is just to much information to fit into a 1 hour show. There is other documentaries out there. Loosechange is a good one. Can be found at youtube.The truth will come out some day. I myself would not trust Bush as far as I can spit.

Wanda  Sasakatchewan — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:33 PM

Having watched the hatchet jobs the BBC in the U.K. has done on the 9/11 truth movement I was pleasantly surprised that the CBC did a fairly even handed presentation. Richard Gage and David Ray Griffen were actually allowed to complete their thoughts and their statements were not taken out of context. The surface of the evidence against the "official story" has at least been scratched with this documentary and I hope there will be more like it to follow. It is very important that more Canadians become aware of the deception which began the war in Afghanistan and when we exit this war that we do it with honesty, having been awakened to the big lie of 9/11. If all it takes to bring a skyscraper straight down into its own footprint is a randomly placed, single blast and some kerosene fuel fires then you have to ask yourself why do demolition companies get paid big bucks and spend many hours wiring up buildings with explosives to demolish them? If you believe the "official story" then you have to believe the demolition companies are making it appear harder than it is.

M. R.  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:32 PM

No more comments that's maching you agenda???

sakari  — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:15 PM

I posted the following last night, but haven't seen it up on your list, so am posting it again. To CBC moderator: What is it about my submission that is deemed to be not 'postable'?


I had a litmus test for your documentary tonight, and that was, would you mention the fact that the 9/11 Commission has itself rejected the veracity of its 'official version'. You did not mention it. Here is a newspaper article that explains it, and below it is a quote from the article. I would say that you were derelict in your duty of bringing something really meaningful to the public on this topic.

"The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.

Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.

Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes."


Diana Jewell, Mission, BC

Diana Jewell  — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:13 PM

Congratulations to Bob McKeown and CBC for having the courage to present both sides of such a controversial subject with balance and objectively.

No matter which side of an argument you're on, evidence should be examined for what it is, not dismissed out of fear of where it might lead to. Dismissing evidence is symptomatic of the dark ages when Galileo was vilified for intimating that the earth revolved around the sun.

Tackling this controversial subject so professionally is the latest affirmation that Mr McKeown is one of North America's premier journalists. This documentary should be nominated for a well-deserved Emmy award.

PS Suggestion for next update: add Larry Silverstein's WTC7 "Pull it" video, and reference Operation Northwood where the US Military was ready to do something very similar in 1962 as a pretence to invading Cuba. Might be hard to believe, but apparently there really are bad guys in America.

PPS After all the hours and months of intense investigation that it took CBC to bring this story to air, isn't it odd that the official story, that the towers collapsed mostly due to structural failure because the fires were too intense, was aired only minutes after they collapsed? Makes you wonder.

Craig Welbourn  — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:11 PM

Thank you Mr. McKeown, and Fifth Estate, and CBC, for finally giving serious attention to the research which has emerged, through the efforts of many responsible citizens, who have been gravely concerned about the disturbing question of possible US government complicity.

It is now imperative for all concerned persons to urge President Obama to order a truly independent investigation (the 9/11 Commission was run from within the White House) with full subpoena power, to get to the bottom of this horrendous world-changing event.

9/11 has threatened not just American democracy, but in the words of Ferdinando Imposimato of Italy, it threatens the very roots of democracy worldwide, when a rogue element within a state can fashion the world to suit its purposes, in such a formidable way.

The effects on Afghanistan and Iraq have been unspeakably devastating.

We cannot afford to let this go down, for if it does, it means that from now on, anything goes, at all levels of society, everywhere.

Elizabeth Woodworth  Victoria — Posted on November 28, 2009 03:58 PM

Thanks Bob. My comment is on the failure of the response of immediately scrambling military jets and the myth that the US was unprepared and tragically blind to internal attack by airplanes used as missiles as central to the "official story". First, when Payne Steward, the golfer, was out of contact with air traffic control, his plane on US soil, it was intercepted by military jets minutes after last contact. Second, the assertion by the Bush administration that no one foresaw domestic aircraft would ever be used as a missile is patently false: not only were there papers on this very scenario written, Bush, Rice at al were informed. In fact there were war games conducted on 911 that were on that very scenario. Third, one episode of The X Files was on a story of a highjacked passenger jet crashing into the World Trade Centre two years before the actual day. The incompetence theory on 911 is the most obvious lie of them all.

Chris Johnston  — Posted on November 28, 2009 03:29 PM

Plane hits building, building falls down. I can buy that. But when a building falls hours after without being hit by a plane, then I start to question the events of that day. To all those who posted claiming to be knowlegable about structural steel or whatever, and still stick with the "offical" explanation, please adise us as to what structures you have been associated with so we can avoid them. Years ago three friends of mine who were and still are civil engineers had a very difficult time convincing me that controlled demolition was even possible. I imagined that even if the explosive charges were timed exactly right the building would still fall unpredictably. Only after I actually witnessed a demolition where the old apartment building really did fall pretty much into its own footprint did I accept that this could work.(It's quite a sight!) Yet on Sept. 11 2001, building Seven falls into its footprint allegedly without demolition charges because of a few small fires. (according to the photographs shown of building Seven) Also I recall the owner, Larry Siverstein, stating on camera that building Seven was "pulled". That was a controlled demolition. I hope I live long enough to read a proper account of the events in question.

xyptol  waterloo — Posted on November 28, 2009 03:20 PM

And another thing...if cell phones cannot make calls from an aircraft in the air, why are Europe and the FAA considering lifting the ban on their use?

David  — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:48 PM

This program makes a good start at doing what most journalists have not done for nearly eight long years -- asking some tough questions. Why have the media been so reluctant to ask these questions until the public forced them to do it?

As author of a book about the history of censorship and propaganda during wars and other national emergencies, I can tell you that the U.S. government typically has contracted secretly with news organizations and journalists to selectively censor news and disseminate propaganda. Prior to both World Wars I & II, for example, the American public was against going to war. It took large-scale, government-financed propaganda campaigns to reverse public opinion. The media were brought in to sell these wars to the public.

If 9-11 was a planned event to win support for the U.S. invasion of the Middle East, part of the overall war plan would have been to contract with all the major media companies to ensure that problems with the official conspiracy story did not get close examination. History seems to be repeating itself. This is made much easier today because the news Americans receive is controlled by a mere handful of large corporations, many of which are owned by firms with a big financial stake in war (such as General Electric which owns NBC).

This is not a wild conspiracy theory; it is how things have traditionally worked in American politics.

Terry Hansen
(M.A., science journalism, University of Minnesota)


Terry Hansen  — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:18 PM

First - Credit to the CBC for playing anything on 911, that questions the official "story".

Secondly - Credit to the CBC for acknowledging the obvious, that the Truth Movement is growing and, in my opinion and in all likelihood, is now the majority opinion.

Shame on the CBC - for having taken this long to address the issue and for being behind the curve on this topic.

Shame on the CBC for making no meaningful reference or discussion of Shanksville P.A and flight 93. Please note that the CBC did not play any video of Shanksville. Why? Is it because the video of that day show nothing, but an empty field and they, along with every other MSM outlet, are afraid to play it; for fear that people will look at it and ask the question....why can't I see any jet there and why was there no fire in a field, next to a forest, when all that big bad jet fuel went into that 10 x 15 ft. hole.

Question - why did the CBC bring on James Megis and the NP reporter Johnathan Kaye to defend the official "story"? They have no expertise in anything; Megis has no scientific credentials; heck, his job before he took over PM was editor of some entertainment magazine - please!. And Kaye...what does he know? LOL!!! He's debating architects and engineers...what are his credentials, to do so? LOL!!

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Is this the best that could be mustered to defend the official "story"? That and one so-called demolitions expert. LOL!!!

The official "story" of 911 is dead!

The Truth Movement has replaced it with the official "questions" of 911.

And please note - they didn't interview Sibel Edmonds, William Rodriguez and failed to tell the story of Barry Jennings and his experiences in WTC 7.

And they certainly never mentioned Norm Minetta and his testimony before the commission and the significance of what he said.

I should make note, however, I give the CBC "full" credit for making note of the Ted Olson "story" and how it was proven in court, that he could never have received a call from her. Period; fictitious. And thank them, also, for making note of voice morphing technology and that it exists. Cu dos on all of that.

All in all - I give the CBC some credit here, but not tons. I shall be interested to see how they follow up on it, if, indeed they do. And whether or not, they start playing some of those outstanding documentaries that have been made on the subject; films such as, 911 Mysteries, Loose Change, Press for Truth, Zero: An Investigation into 911, Fabled Enemies and so on.

A tip of the cap to the CBC for the show - it's a step in the right direction to reclaiming their credibility.

The official "story" of 911 is dead.

Proclaim it.

Now, lets figure out what really happened and what we're going to do about it.

My rating for the show - I give the CBC's presentation 7 improbable collapses out of a possible 10. :-)

Suspicious Patriot  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:16 PM

Too bad about the cell phone segment. The truther was shown on purpose to spread doubt about all truthers. He was unclear (or edited) on some facts. Flight 93 was around 30000 ft when these calls supposedly took place. If thats so, why would AA announce in 2004 that they now have a piece of equipment that allows cell phone connections at cruising alttitudes?
This talk of how many people would have to be involved reaching thousands of people is always thrown in too discredit the actual evidence. Doesn't anyone remember that in the aftermath of 9/11 they distracted us with ANTHRAX being everywhere when the real news should have been about how Bush was blocking any investigation(for 405 days!) and FBI agents were trying to sue the government for not listening to their very specific warnings.
I find most people who still beleive in the official story show in their blogs a lack of investigation. If everyone would take a month or two and read up on clandestine efforts of the cia and pentagon through the late 1900's ad books like 'The new pearl harbour' followed by the Popular mechanics 'Myth'book They'd change their tune. The truth is out there to be digested people.

THANKS AGAIN CBC!

I Billeive  — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:03 PM

The issue of whether or not the American government was behind the attacks of 9/11 is not, as your film continually implies, an "open question." Rather, this conspiracy theory is a noxious and paranoid fantasy with no basis in reality. By attempting, bizarrely, to find a middle ground between somewhere between the truth and this bizarre fantasy, you have taken the side of falsehood and delusion. Congratulations for having set up camp among the Holocaust deniers, Mein Kampfers, and Heavens Gate believers. Pass the cool-aid CBC, your spaceship is ready.

R.Leitch  Halifax — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:02 PM

It is one thing to argue there are some questions that are not sufficiently answered by the "official" version of what happen on September 11, 2001. It is quite another to spin from a few observations an elaborate conspiracy theory that, from the looks of things, has become a cult and a reason-for-being for a few people. One of the characteristics of conspiracy theories, and probably the most pernicious, is that they take everything and everyone who opposes the theory as evidence of further conspiracy. In that way they become immune to reason and bebuttal.

During the program, I took notes on exactly what the evidence, motive and opportunity were to support such an elaborate conspiracy. There was next to none. Rather, there were a handful of people suporting a 'belief' in a grand conspiracy by citing some things they felt were not sufficiently explained by the official version. That is a quantum leap that does not proceed logically from premise to conclusion. In the final analysis, the people speaking on behalf of the conspiracy theory came across as half a bubble shy of plumb.

David  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:55 PM

It�s not the height that the planes where flying at that make the cell phone calls impossible, it is the processing speed of the cell phone towers. The signal could not have continuously switched, and been processed between towers fast enough while the planes flew past them; but why investigate that, right. I find it interesting that those of us who are being labeled as conspiracy theorists are the only ones asking relevant questions. The rest of you just blindly resort to name calling and say �the government couldn�t do that�, as if they would have any hesitation. Germans in the thirties also believed their government couldn�t do such things. In this day in age, when wars are immensely profitable and Capitalism legally allows for lobbyists to financially influence the minds of our �elected� leaders, those of you who think that governments couldn�t do such things, well, tell that to the countless soldiers whose last noble act was to blindly follow orders and search for those elusive WMD�s no matter what the cost. I feel sorry for all you �patriots�. Keep drinking the water the government has so graciously fluoridated for you.

Rodney Beaton  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:52 PM

If this was a journalism assignment in high school it deserves a D+... at best.
Did the researchers @ F.E. all fail science in university?
Bob Mc's smirks and digs were childish...very unprofessional...and uncalled for.
Then he said the 9/11 Commission was "INDEPENDENT"...
What?
And those two nit-wits get so much air time to "balance the story".
Why?
Focus CBC!
Do some honest research!
Stiffen your spines!
This is the biggest CRIME in world history...
And this 'gatekeeper' type of program discredits all of you.
Meanwhile the Bush Mafia Family continues to laugh up their sleeves.
You want to know "who done it"?
A long and horrible history.

David   — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:42 PM

Hi,

I was pleasantly surprised to see your show as fair and balanced. I was expecting another corporate white wash to be honest. Thanks.

I too find the official story deficient. I have done quite a lot of reading on the subject over the years.

The crux of the matter for me is the temperature of the building fires and the melting of the structural steel. I have an engineering background and, although metallurgy is not my field, it has seemed to me from the outset very unlikely that the fires, fueled by jet fuel (essentially kerosene), (or whatever in the case of building 7) burning only orange in colour and obviously not going to complete combustion as evidenced by the black smoke plumes, could melt the structural steel to such a complete, simultaneous and symetrical collapse. Even with the impact damage, the differences between the likely fire temperatures and the working temperatures of the steel seem miles apart. The symmetry of all 3 of the collapses is particularly troubling to me when considering the official explanation and how unevenly what heat there was, was distributed across the floor plan of the buildings. Other steel frame buildings elsewhere have burned longer and hotter without structural failure. I just don't buy it that the only steel structures ever to fall from fire, did so in this one place on this one day.

Without this fire/collapse lynch pin, the rest of the story collapses as did the buildings. I don't know how or by whom explosives could have been introduced, but if one explanation is ruled out by fact and logic then something else must be true. Close and honest examination of the physical evidence is called for. Alas its missing.

I find the rapid disposal of the steel evidence (to Chinese recyclers I understand) to be just as damning as LBJ's next day, thorough, immediate clean up and rejuvenation of the JFK presidential limousine. The evidence was disposed of and the crime scenes cleansed. It stinks to treasonous high heavens! Only officialdom it seems to me could perpetrate such obvious acts of cover up and so the conclusion seems inescapable.

Very conveniently oil rich areas of the world needed to be invaded in immediate retribution. The narrative served as a clarion call to patriots. It seemed tailor made for the purpose. Given similar now debunked catalyst events of prior history, like the 1898 sinking of the USS Maine, Pearl Harbour, Gulf of Tonkin and the proposed operation Northwoods, fool some of the people all of the time comes to mind.

Henry Kissinger as first proposed head of the official investigation seemed a dead giveaway also that a whitewash was in the works. As if that man didn't have enough blood on his hands already!

Perhaps one day we might know the truth, although I am not holding my breath. (Almost 50 years have elapsed and Oswald still dun it.) For now I think the conclusion for rational thinking people is obvious, psychopaths run the world. Likely this is nothing new and the best one can do is to be aware that it is so and live as best one can accordingly. Easy for me to say, not so easy for the poor bastards and generations yet unborn in the depleted uranium dusted war zones! I despair and wish I had the power to make it otherwise but alas such will always be life in the community of man I fear. That is until such time as a collective atomic suicide, as part of the machinations of one or another of these madmen brings the party to an end once an for all.

Thanks for the opportunity to vent. Please continue the good work to expose what truths you can get away with.

Brian H.

brian hambleton  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:42 PM

I was very disappointed in the quality of the Fifth estates documentary on 911. The evidence in favor of the fact that 911 was an inside job is overwhelming. The fifth estate by doing such a superficial job only hurt the cause of truth. There were dozens of very important questions that are unanswered. For a list of them all you had to do was go to the 911 truth website, they list 40 questions there. Now if you want to do a good job and be real journalists, take each question and have a program on each. Do your investigation , Talk to the experts , give both sides, and I guarentee you forty programs later you will all be dead or have the biggest following of any journalist in history. Show some guts and do it right. I have always trusted you in the past. Do not let me down now

Dr. Peter J Morry  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:34 PM

loose change is a very good documentary. it is found at you tube.

Wanda  saskatchewan, — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:33 PM

I do think the whole issue at hand was a conspiracy. For the simple fact that there was no evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon! Even watching the explosion on the show last night, that explosion was way to small for a jet airliner. Why was there next to no video footage on this? Why was there almost no eye witnesses? You'd think that if a plane had to fly THAT LOW TO THE GROUND someone, if not hundreds of people would have witnessed it! Watching the news for months after 9/11, I was always wondering why almost all the media was focused on the trade towers. This didn't make sense to me at all! My other question was building #7. A few uncontrolled fires caused a 47 story building to implode?? I do NOT believe that at all! Is it true that the owner of that building took out insurance on that building not to long before 9/11? All in all, I do believe that 9/11 was set up. Just my two cents.

WKC  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:14 PM

Your splendid impartiality gave true credibility to the "TRUTH" point of view of which I am a supporter. I do not think George Bush actually knew of the attack. I think he had been told there would be a hijacking or two that day - thus his "amazed" look in the classroom. I believe the first crash he saw before going into the classroom was CIA closed-circuit or a privately shot film as the only (Naudet Bros) footage of the first crash was not released until Sept. 12.

An important point that was not mentioned was that ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE/UPGRADING went on for a month before Sept. 11th and it is through these shafts that the infrastructure of the buildings could be reached to plant the THERMATE (patented US Army explosive). And that the teams of explosive-sniffing dogs regularly patrolling the towers were pulled in the last five days prior to the attacks, when the charges would have been laid.

CANADIANS WERE MURDERED ABROAD.If this happened today in Iran, for example, would we all sit back and not ask questions EVER?? Why do we not have an inquiry here? If my relative had died there I would not be sitting back and let the US Govt shut me up.

Pattimontreal  Montreal — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:01 PM

To me, the most convincing evidence that there is more to this story than meets the eye is the attempt to manufacture false evidence. The cell phone calls from the airplanes is among the examples, but there are other examples.
If you recall, in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attack, no one actually took credit for it. A day later, when the US accused bin Laden and Al Qaida of rsponsibility, they denied it.
After the US military captured Kabul, U.S. intelligence alleged that they had found a video tape in which bin Laden was boasting about the success of his operation.
When the video was released, those familiar with Osama bin Laden claimed that the person in the video was an imposter. The bin Laden in the video was right handed while the actual bin Laden is left handed.
This raises the question of who made the video and why.
And if there was a real case to be made, why was so much false evidence being manufactured?

Jack Shultz  Montreal — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:58 PM

What a piece of crap, more shoddy CBC journalism deferring to powers that be. The Third Tower alone is proof of a conspiracy. The building DID fall at the speed of free fall. Way to do nothing.

Jerry  Guelph — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:56 PM

The "Big Lie" is a difficult one to see past, and that is why it is so effective. The people that committed the atrocities of 9/11 know this. You, the good, moral person that you are, will not believe leaders/powerful people can be so evil, because you are not evil... They can be. You ask, how can such a plot be executed and coordinated? Easily. You only need about 5-10 compartmentalized leaders, and bad sheeple (people who act like sheep - believe me, the vast majority of people are like this.) They follow orders, unquestioning the morality of them (people do this everyday, to varying degrees).

It is also true, one who holds a strong identity to the "greatness" of one's country or leaders, will have a difficult time believing the big lie. You just can't see it, because of your ego (your identification to the country). The ego is blinding... I know, because I've had to break this down, in order to see this lie. Another reason why the "big lie" works so well.

It's rather ironic, that you wonder how the conspiracy can be done without anyone "finding out", while at the same time, it has taken 8 years for a decent, mainstream documentary to come out! This should have been a headline story, every single day, since 9/11 2001, until justice was served. Talk about cognitive dissonance; there was a tidal wave of information and discussion about this issue on the Net, but mute in mainstream media... Oh, I have confidence and trust in mainstream media (sarcasm).

We need justice and closer.

We need to reverse the tide of that day, and how it is destroying both our countries. The fear... the irrationality... the ignorance... the war... the lies are/is tearing our society apart. I'm no longer proud of this country, nor will I be until justice is served. Even then, I'm not sure.

Indeed, since justice will likely not be served on this issue, use it as a learning experience. Know that there are people above the law; some of these people are evil, and they have been manipulating the masses for their own agendas for a very long time. There shall be no fear in that (because fear cripples you), just awareness... so that you have the proper glasses (perspective) to see world events for what there and what/whose agenda it is serving. It is happening right before your eyes, don't be blind to it!

I hope only for peace.
(It is already there, we only have to discover it.)

Mike  Winnipeg — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:50 PM

An interesting documentary which explains technical evidences of the "supposed" 911 attacks. But a lot of questions remain. For exemple, the real purposes behind the events. We can talk about the new world order announced by President Bush father in 1992, 9 years before 911 "attacks". Why they chose this specific date? And the significance of the 9 and 11 numbers for politicians and artists or in certain groups. Those numbers have an astronomical meanings.

Also, remember the Madrid "attack" on March 11th 2004. Just count the number of days between September 11, 2001 and March 11th 2004. You have a total of 911 days if you don't count the two dates mentioned above. So, I agree that what is happening right now in our world is well planned.

You want more intriguing elements concerning 911 "attacks"? New York city is also called the "Big apple". So, search "LADON" on Wikipedia. Does this name look familiar to you? It has a certain resemblance with OSAMA BIN "LADEN". Just look at Wikipedia and you will have a part of the answers. "They" use Roman/Greek mythology and apply it in our reality. Also, search Hercules and the 11th labor.

Finally, another question. Why the pentagon was "attacked"? The pentagon figure has another meaning for certain societies and people. It represents the symbol of defense. Defense from what? For some cultures, it represents the defense against evil spirits. I let you judge.

Conclusion, it is interesting to investigate and to have technical facts, but it is also interesting to go beyond that. The truth is possibly out there, but one thing is certain; those events have a relationship with our distant past, i.e. our genesis.

Inform yourself, make your own research and have your own judgment.

There's an old saying: "You judge a tree by its fruits" .

Sacha  Montreal — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:06 PM

This tragic event told in the story by CBC, amounts to uptmost journalistic malpractice and editorial hypocrisy.

Also, the way heavily filtered people's comments tricle onto to the page, one can't help but wonder the true agenda of Fifth Estate... A TRUE EYE OPENER!

sakari  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:48 AM

Hey Guys I was wondering if you have a continuity director that you use for these documentaries that you do . You are Making videos here that are going to be dissected very quickly by the movement , We have millions of people who study very closely everything presented to us by a Media we have lost faith in . So If you do a frame by Frame stop of the low and to the left shot in your opening shot of the plane crashing into the south tower you will notice that it comes apart very quickly . from one frame to the next you will notice , Half plane , wings missing , etc. Please verify your video sources before airing thank you . If you do this with the CNN footage you will find the same thing happening . I'm sure you have a source at CBC to do this type of research before you present this to the public . The Hezarkhani shot with the pod underneath has also been thoroughly shown to be pretty obvious don't you think ? Please show footage of flight 175 with United airlines insignia and colors if you can find one . I placed a bet four years ago to anyone who could show me one clear picture of Flight 175 with markings for 1000 dollars and since then I have yet to pay it to anyone. Why ? Because none exist. 5 networks trained on the burning north tower on a clear summer day not to mention a probable thousand people on the ground with handycams and not one photo of a united airlines 767 has ever emerged since the incident.

Thank you for your time.

Mikael P Rasila   Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:44 AM

I always have to chuckle when I hear the ridiculous official conspiracy defenders' a priori argument about the number of people that would have to have been involved if 9/11 was the result of a black-op. Any claim one way or another is pure speculation and has no place on the evidentiary table. But assuming it was a vast conspiracy as official narrative defenders would have us believe, then it seems fair to point out that the Manhatten project (the building of the atomic bomb) was an amazingly kept secret despite involving tens of thousands of participants across umpteen states and a couple of Canadian provinces. Even Harry Truman had no awareness of the project until taking over the presidency after FDR's death. How was that even possible? It stretches credulity to think that the axis powers weren't actively engaged in ferreting out military technology secrets. One key to secrecy is most certainly a high degree of compartmentalization, and for those who don't know what that means in the context of special/black operations, perhaps you might want to ask one of the many high ranking military/intelligence professionals listed on patriotsquestion911.com. In fact, there you will find an amazing array of the most highly credentialed professionals from numerous fields who question the veracity of the official narrative. As for me, well, 19 guys with box-cutters led by a dialysis patient in a damp Afghan cave bringing the multi-trillion dollar defence/intelligence establishment to its knees..........now that is some far out conspiracy theory!

Martin  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:42 AM

It is terrifying to see how many people believe in this theories. The hate to USA has gone too far, and CBC is a willing participant in this anti-Americanism which in this case is also an insult to rationality.
This is the last time I am going to watch The Fifth Estate.

Jane  Kingston — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:41 AM

Your video interview with Najib Abboud is excellent, and he clearly explains his analytical perspective on progressive collapse of the Twin Towers. He is correct in his assessment that jet fuel and office fires cannot melt steel or iron, and that dynamic loads are significantly different from static loads. What he does not explain, and what you failed to ask him includes:(1)What explains the presence of previously molten iron in the debris? (2)What explains the presence of highly-reactive thermitic materials in the debris? (3)What explains the free-fall descent of WTC 7 without any structural resistance for one third of its collapse time? (4)Why have NIST and most media sources refused to acknowledge that these questions persist? I look forward to seeing the full documentary, and I hope someday these questions will be answered truthfully.

Ron Brookman  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:35 AM

Thanks to CBC and Mr. McKeown for keeping 911 in the mainstream news with programs like the "Unofficial Story". I think the 911/Commission Report should borrow your title. I got to hear Robert Kennedy Jr. speak on how U.S. media is controlled by only a few companies so it's not surprising U.S. networks have stayed away from programing like yours. There are a lot of unanswered questions from that day and If I'm feeling this way I can only imagine how the families of the victims feel. My heart goes out to them. Many have requested a new investigation. Many of them have spoken out on the internet. Hopefully 911 won't go away until more questions are answered. ( at the very least for the families sake) Please continue more programming on this topic.

Graham Booth  Peterborough — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:34 AM

The cleverness of whitewash documentaries is in their ability to focus on useless and diversionary aspects of a horribly tragic story. It would be so rewarding for everyone if for once the "journalists" had the courage to put the real questions to the real players:
1. Why was WTC 7 left out of the 911 commission report?
2. Why did Rumsfeld report over 2 TRILLION dollars missing from the Pentagon on Sept. 10, 2001 and then no one followed it up?
3. Why was the biggest crime scene in U.S. history shipped off to China without proper forensic testing?
4. Why wasn't the steel recycled in the U.S.?
5. Why was there still molten metal in the foundation of the towers 6 WEEKS after the fall?
6. Why was Dick Cheney getting a play by play of an incoming plane to the Pentagon when he testified that he didn't know of the plane or it's trajectory?
7. How did Al Jazeera T.V. get advance notice of the first plane hitting the North tower and covered it with a stationary camera? (I have seen the footage)
8. Who made inside short trades on the airlines involved and why weren't they brought to justice?
9. How did the owner of the towers have advance notice of their impending doom and why did he "pull" tower 7?
10. Why did FBI headquarters ignore and threaten witnesses to the Arab flight students who wanted to learn to fly but not to land?
11. How did Mohammed Atta's passport survive impact, fire and explosion and then dissapear from FBI evidence a year later?
12. How did building 7 fall as one complete piece when damage was concentrated to specific areas of the building?
It is very difficult for many of us to accept the truth that this world is run by some very nasty people and they do not care one iota about our well being. We are inherently good people and we find it hard to accept truths that we can't handle. Got your vaccine yet?

Britt Jackson  — Posted on November 28, 2009 11:17 AM

I suppose the taped inadvertant admission by Bin Laden, whereby he admits involvement in the planning of the attacks, that was faked too. Yes, that's it, the Americans, they have so much technology that we don't know about stored in Area 51, they brought Cary Grant back from the dead to play the role of Bin Laden, where he admits that they didn't, in their wildest dreams, expect the caper to be so successful.
Some of these conspiracy theorists deserve to have their noses punched due to the lack of respect they are showing for the victims of 9/11 and the troops that have died searching for Bin Laden.
Is democracy worth fighting for? If fighting for the right to free speech gives us effing idiot spew such as this?

Fred  Halifax — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:58 AM

Thank you for a well balanced production of The Unofficial Story last night.
I have known David Ray Griffin for a number of years as a colleague in theology. He is an excellent scholar and researcher and I have read many of his philosophical and theological writings with appreciation for his wisdom and insights. If the first thing I had read about a possible different story about 9/11 had not been by David I probably would have dismissed it as a "conspiracy theory" and forgotten about it. But given the quality of his other writing he had to be taken seriously. I have since read a number of Griffin's 9/11 books and books by others such as Barrie Zwicker and Nafeez Mosadeq Ahmed. My initial response to all of this was - that can't be true. Those of us in the Western world don't do things like that - well I guess we do - to which many examples of other "false flag" operations attest. Basically what the 9/11 Truth Movement is asking for is that a new and independent 9/11 Commission be set up to again open the investigation as to what really happened on 9/11. It is not too much to ask.

Helen Goggin  Oakville — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:58 AM

Why some ask is it so important to get to the bottom of this.
1. The first obvious concern is that we have sent our brave young men and women to fight and die in a war that is based on a lie.

2. Our government has borrowed large sums of money, putting our nation further in debt to the private banking sector.

3. If 9/11 was an inside job then we have to conclude that the War on Terror the Patriot Act and the Security, Prosperity, Partnership act is a war on us and our civil liberties.

4. The only political party that even mentions the topic is the Canadian Action Party.

5. It is very alarming that this was the first little bit of light to be cast on the topic by main stream media. When looking into the matter it is obvious why...Ownership of most of the mainstream media we get access to is so concentrated, and there fore easy to manipulate.

We can no longer trust the media to be our political watchdog and must do the work our selves if we are to remain a free society.


sean  london — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:56 AM

Why are only conspiratoid comments being posted. I submitted two last night and they've yet to be printed?

The video was okay, but it let the America-hating 9/11 conspiracy theorists get away to too many bogus claims. Nanothermite has never being used in demolitions before, that is just something the twoofers glaumed onto to cloak their beliefs in "science" when it is ideology that determines their views. In their minds, the US is evil. So, they simply assert it attacked itself on 9/11 and then piece together a narrative to support what they want to believe anyway.

ConsDemo  USA — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:30 AM

I am disappointed that the CBC did not give any air time to prominent Canadians who question the "official conspiracy theory".
Why did the CBC not have some of the testimony of William Rodriguez who was a janitor in the north building and the last man out of the building alive? I saw him in the program but then it cut to a commercial.
Why did they not have Professor Steven Jones the physics professor who analyzed the dust from the World Trade Center collapses and found the iron rich spheres and eventually the unreacted nano-thermite chips?
What about Niels Harrit?

Hey CBC, if you really want to do some good, air the 30min version of "911 Blueprint for Truth 2008 edition". I am sure Richard Gage would approve.

C-Consistently
B-Brainwashing
C-Canadians

Kitchener 9/11 Truth  Kitchener — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:25 AM

1. Financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals used foreknowledge of the attack to reap huge profits. 1 The evidence of insider trading includes:
� Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines
� Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies expected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group
� Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of financial services companies hurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America
� Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturer expected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon
� Huge surges in purchases of 5-Year US Treasury Notes
2. World trade building 7, a 47 storey building that was not hit by a plane and had only a couple of small fires came down at freefall speed.
leased 3. Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. Larry Silverstein had the buildings insured for individual terrorist attacks for $2.3 billion per attack and collected $4.6 billion for that day. When Silverstein was questioned about building #7 and why it came down that day Silverstein said that he and the fire chief agreed to PULL IT and then they watched it fall. The question is if they gave the order to PULL IT, meaning to bring it down with explosives which when watching the building come down this is obvious as to what happened, HOW did they rig the build the same day with explosives when it takes weeks to achieve that task.
4. Why was the investigation stalled for over 450 days but the war in the Middle East started almost immediately.
5. At the Pentagon with hundreds of cameras around the building is there not one filming of the airplane that supposedly hit the Pentagon and why was there no evidence of a plane not even the titanium engines. The only damage to the Pentagon was a hole blown through the one wall suggesting a missile or a bomb. Why won�t the government release the film.
6.The plane that went down in Pennsylvania, same as the Pentagon, no evidence of a plane, no metal, no bodies. In fact this is the second time in history where there hasn�t been evidence at the crash site. The first time in history was at the Pentagon.
7.There were many people at the Twin Towers that day including Police and Firefighters who said that there were explosions going off in the basements of the buildings suggesting planted bombs.
8. The construction manager of the twin towers said in an interview that the towers were made to take multiple hits by large passenger jets. Saying that �Planes hitting the building would be like pushing a pencil through a screen door, it does NOTHING to the integrity of the building.�
9. Scientists have stated that jet fuel burns no where near the temperature needed to melt steel. There have been no buildings in history that have collapsed do to fire.
10. Large amounts of molten metal found at World Trade 1,2,7 sites lasting for many weeks after the attacks. Many scientists point out that to achieve these great temperature s found at ground zero a substances like thermite must be used.

sean  london — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:23 AM

I'm left with a sense of direction for further programs. Considering it has taken this long for a breakthrough on media silence, I would like to hear an explanation for this delay.
Why is the internet the only source for discussion of the questions being asked by so many for so long ?
The disillusionment that an event like this could happen in North America is one thing, but the disillusionment that there could be a 'co-conspiracy of silence' among elected politicians, candidates for elections, newspapers, magazines, television and radio programmers is the real cause for voter apathy.I would like to see someone explore the link between these issues before the next election.
Also I'm left with an impression of blurred lines between fact and fiction by the comments of Jonathan Kay and James Meigs and also by Bob McKeown's final comment regarding which "version of the truth" you choose to believe. This is not a belief issue. Truth does not have "versions".There simply can't be more than one truth.

Onward and forward with sincerity and gratitude for the attempt.

Pauli Sommer

Pauli Sommer  Dungannon — Posted on November 28, 2009 10:09 AM

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Tim | | Posted November 28, 2009 01:10 AM

Tim, the conspiracy theorists didn't think the Earth was flat, in fact it was the government and church of the day that insisted the Earth was flat and at the centre of the universe! The conspiracy theorist, "at that time", was someone also seeking truth who saw the evidence and questioned it. In your example, this conspiract theorist realized that the Earth wasn't flat and that it rotated around the sun. The conspiracy theorists name was none other than Galileo Galilei! He ended up suffering for his discovery at the hands of both church and state. This is further historical proof that governments around the world are selling their people misinformation to control the masses and carryout their agendas.

Chuck  Ontario — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:58 AM

The people who think this was an inside job orchestrated by the Bush government are utterly devoid of common sense. If Bush wanted to justify a war all he had to do was order the creaton of some forged documents linking Saddam Hussein to planned attacks on the US. One only has to look back, for instance, at the effect of the Zimmerman telegram in World War One (German ambasssdor's telegram to Mexico). There would be no need for the US govt to mount such a complex and risky fake terrorist attack if they wanted war.
Secondly, the 'truthers' and armchair experts try to argue the buildings were destroyed by planned explosions by explaining that the aircraft strikes cannot account for their manner of destruction. Really? What happened that day was a unique occurrence with its own particular circumstances ie. buildings of a unique design struck by fully fueled aircraft at high speed. Even for experts, let alone Joe Public to claim to know what should and should not happen in an unforeseen event such as this is laughable. If this documentary served a purpose at all it was to illustrate the muddled thinking of the 'truthers'and the incredible cynicism and hatred among a segment of the North American population that allows them to believe such nonsense. Shame on you all.

KJM  Ottawa — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:57 AM

The fifth estate left out one interview I saw a few years ago...it was with a worker who said that there was people coming & going in the world trade centers and nobody knew what they were doing....AND he said that the power had to be turned off at one point....he said it was somthing that never happens in the world trade center....but they closed down the power for some reason.The world trades center buildings had to come down due to age/height and structural failure about to happen...it was blow them down or let them fall in the wind...AND pay out BILLIONS of dollars in insurance claims by injured workers there.We hear of understreaght/faulty steel all the time....especially in the mob run union running the steel industry.You put under code steel on the market and pay off whoever is buying it...and the world trade center buildings took a lot of steel

Tony  newfoundland — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:41 AM

Good day!

On November 28th I watched your 9/11 broadcast and I found it quite interesting.
I have just finished several years of research and I have written a book concerning 9/11 and its context which is ready to be published.
Anyone curious or interested in helping me?

Gilles

gilles mousseau  ontario — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:32 AM

Congratulations, CBC for having the cajones to make this program available through a mainline media outlet.

I had just about given up hope that you would break the bonds that throttles most of the so called free press.

I congratulate you on your coverage on this topic and I realize that due to time constraints you left out many important questions in this matter.

Yocep  — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:31 AM

To those who propose that of all the people who would have to be involved in an inside job someone would have spilled the beans by now I ask one simple question- would you? Surely the three F's would figure decisively in your decision: FANATICISM - your dedication to cause or the institution that you work for, FEAR - for the safety of yourself and your loved ones, not to mention your career, FUTILITY - all the evidence of your involvement has been destroyed, none of your co-conspirators will support you and if you have been paying any attention at all you know that the main stream media will ignore you.

Jeff  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:30 AM

As reported in the Commission report (BTW, check out the graphic version for a cool "Readers Digest" summary), it's pretty clear that the US Administration as far back as Clinton knew that something of 911's magnitude was afoot. Read "Why America Slept" - excellent book on the subject.

I do not believe that this horrifying event was orchestrated by the Bush administration for the following reasons:

1. George W Bush is just not smart enough;
2. The American people love their 15 seconds of fame far too much for someone involved not to have run as fast as possible to Larry King, Oprah, or Jerry Springer.

I do believe that the US government has been the master of its own disaster by meddling for the "sake of democracy" in the culture and governance of other countries. It seems that their policy on Israel alone has exacerbated the current situation in the Middle East. Cuba (Bay of Oinks), Nicaragua (Contras), Vietnam (nnnnnineteen), Iran (The Shah), Irag (Saddam), etc., etc., etc.

People talk and talk about how Britain ruined the world with their colonialism - seems to me that the US has much American cultural imperialistic blood on their hands, all in the name of McCarthyistic paranoia.

The US government has a lot of 'splainin' to do those they feign to serve.

It's unfortunate that we are all here to watch the fall of the latest "great" empire - I worry for my child's future.

Malcolm  — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:25 AM

Great journalism - open to both sides.

It's hard to cover all in 1 hour. I'd like to hear more on the Pentagon. Pentagon workers who came outside after the blast have been documented as saying there were no plane parts - engines, wings, tail, etc. What was it?

I'd welcome another episode on this subject.

Bob  Halifax — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:16 AM

What about the footage of the bbc reporting building 7 falling before it did I mean its on youtube. Over all a really poor effort to show either side.

F

pledius  — Posted on November 28, 2009 09:11 AM

The purpose of this documentary is to contain curiosity, to scare people away from a rational understanding of how power operates in our culture.

The producer of the Fifth Estate, Oleh Rumak, accepted the terms put forward by Richard Gage (according to Gage): that he would grant an interview provided the final documentary would include evidence of free-fall, molten metal, iron-rich microspheres, nano-thermite chips, lateral ejections, and pulverized concrete. The documentary spends most of its time obscuring the significance of these issues and trying to encourage na�ve quests to speak beyond their areas of expertise. Predictably, some comply and voila, you�ve got yourself a few straw men and a documentary on conspiracy theory! Consequently and ironically, this documentary becomes a demonstration of conspiracy theory.

For instance, Bob McKeown asserts that NIST �found� no traces of explosives. In fact, NIST claimed that it did not �look for� evidence of explosives. Nice work, Bob.

McKeown is a reporter who is well enough informed to know that the passenger Mark Bingham often identified himself to his mother using both names and yet hasn�t read Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Griffin�s thorough debunking of the Popular Mechanics article which is allowed to stand as the more authoritative scientific account. McKeown doesn�t tell us that the evidence for nano-thermite, documented by PhDs in chemistry and physics, passed peer review in a scientific journal while the Popular Mechanics article was a poor hack job. Meanwhile, Griffin appears as a guest! In fact, McKeown took no advantage of Griffin�s presence to pursue the real issues involved in 9/11. What terrible journalism!

There is an argument constructed throughout that concludes with the warning, voiced by a demolition �expert� with no relevant expertise � we had just been introduced to nano-thermite and he knew nothing about it � that questioning 9/11 compromises America�s status in global affairs. Precisely.

Curious viewers will now go elsewhere for real information and analysis. They will learn that the Fifth Estate is not serious journalism. It�s sad: as a little Canadian, I�d like the public broadcaster to ask real questions on my behalf. In fact, they close ranks against us.

Paul Jackson  Montreal — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:58 AM

What was this... a high school project? If these interview subjects are the best McKeown and company can do on this important story, serious news people at CBC must be mortified.

bbuc  — Posted on November 28, 2009 08:32 AM

Having watched the hatchet jobs the BBC in the U.K. has done on the 9/11 truth movement I was pleasantly surprised that the CBC did a fairly even handed presentation. Richard Gage and David Ray Griffen were actually allowed to complete their thoughts and their statements were not taken out of context. The surface of the evidence against the "official story" has at least been scratched with this documentary and I hope there will be more like it to follow. It is very important that more Canadians become aware of the deception which began the war in Afghanistan and when we exit this war that we do it with honesty, having been awakened to the big lie of 9/11. If all it takes to bring a skyscraper straight down into its own footprint is a randomly placed, single blast and some kerosene fuel fires then you have to ask yourself why do demolition companies get paid big bucks and spend many hours wiring up buildings with explosives to demolish them? IF you believe the "official story" then you have to believe the demolition companies are making it appear harder than it is.

M. R.  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 05:25 AM

I was amazed that the CBC actually had the courage to do this piece - it has seemed as though anyone questioning the "official" version of events has been automatically branded as "crazy" so it was refreshing to see a reputable news channel address the concerns of a growing number of people who are questioning the official story.

What do I believe? I don't know who was responsible for 9/11, but what I would like to know is that if indeed the official version of events is true, why does the US government not just release footage of the plane that hit the Pentagon? That would surely silence some of the "conspiracy theorists."

And what is even more alarming, if the official version is true, is that if two steel-reinforced towers over 100 stories tall that were built specifically to withstand the force of a 747 crashing into them can pancake so easily just an HOUR after being hit by airplanes, and another 40-something story building can collapse just the same without ever being hit by a plane, should we all not be incredibly concerned about the safety of other buildings? Why is no one in the engineering or public safety sectors raising a furor over the apparent structural weakness of the buildings that collapsed that day?

We are all right to ask questions about 9/11 because let's face it, the "official" version of events lacks sufficient proof.

TJay  Vancouver — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:18 AM

While I applaud the presence of Richard Gage, David Ray Griffin and Daniel Sunjata, this documentary spent much of its time on some of the weakest evidence and least credible interviewees, whereas the active thermitic material was touched on only briefly. Dr. Steven Jones and Dr. Niels Harrit, the physicists who published the peer reviewed paper showing the presence of the thermitic material in the WTC dust, were conspicuously absent. Thankfully, the CBC has considered it worthwhile to link to that paper in the "related links and documents" tab.

For those of you still unconvinced that the "truther" side of the debate has merit, I encourage you to seek out your local 9/11 truth group. Many of us participate in a worldwide campaign on the 11th of every month to distribute DVDs outlining the most credible evidence available... We look forward to engaging you in open, unedited discussion.

Victor  Ottawa — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:13 AM

Thank you cbc & 5th estate team for putting this documentary together and covering the issues in a more balanced way. I am a mechanical engineer and I can tell you that without the aid of explosives these collapses in NYC on 9/11 could not occur in the manner that they did. If it were that easy, then heck why higher professionals if office fires could do such a great job?

The official story stinks to high heaven - we need a media that asks the tough questions and presents the facts to the public and not just the spin & lies provided by the government. Only an informed citizenry can make the right choices. We also need a public that wakes up and starts to use its grey matter much more often.

Canada has committed our brave soldiers to a mission that is be based on lies and deceptions. So many people have lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan. All of us have a duty to demand the truth from our government - we need clarity on this and so many other issues.

I suppose the recent events in Ottawa have shown that this government is not willing to release a few documents, I don't think they will support any efforts in an independent transparent investigation into 9/11.

What Canada needs is regime change - fast. We need a government that is accountable to its citizens. I wished those Canadians that haven't voted in the past will find the courage and come out next election and make a difference - we need change!

I hope that the CBC will air this documentary again and again and again... We also need a follow up on this story, please continue asking the hard questions.

WRS

WRS  Victoria — Posted on November 28, 2009 04:08 AM

I was really excited to see your trailers for the �The Unofficial Story� of 9-11. I naively thought that perhaps the Canadian propaganda model was changing. I was rejuvenated and I could smell honesty in the air; however, that bliss quickly faded as I listened to the uneducated babbling of that �demolition expert� you rounded-up for the usual disinformation segment. Whose decision was it to conveniently slip that �testimony� in and why was his nonsense intentionally placed within the last twenty minutes of footage. Unfortunately for Canadians, it seems Goebbels� spirit is alive and well in mainstream media.

Just a suggestion, but why not follow up with some journalism of the investigative variety. Perhaps you could start with the melting characteristics of steel in the specific fires they were subjected to. Or the longitudinal-compression characteristics of 47 columns, per building, of high-tensile steel; this could be invaluable information.

Come to think about it, if you�ve ascertained the �Achilles heel� of the story as Building 7 then why not devote the majority of the show to it? If fires did take down WTC-7, why did the leaseholder, Larry Silverstein, use a common demolition phrase when he insisted that �the order was given to pull it�? And why no mention of what was contained within Building 7? I suppose it must be a nightmare trying to squeeze all the facts in between the evasive corporate onslaught of subliminal imagery.

Actually if you really want to diligently investigate, why not devote an entire segment to the history of homegrown assaults, including the Manhattan project in the 40�s. One by product of Atomic-bomb research was your friendly neighborhood neurotoxin � Fluoride � commonly used in rat poison at the time. After contaminating a sufficient amount of Americans and their farmland, they conducted litigation assessments and suddenly decided to spin it as dentally advantageous while spoon-feeding Canadians as well. Now every time I brew a cup of coffee, I can�t help but feel grateful for our leaders concern for our dental hygiene� so much so, that they insist it is not part of regular healthcare and we have to pay for it ourselves.

Considering all that we let the government get away with, I guess one question remains: �Will the internet still be unrestricted in the years to come�? I mean, with all this communication going on, it only encourages those blasted terrorists, right?

Rodney Beaton
Calgary, Alberta

Rodney Beaton  — Posted on November 28, 2009 03:49 AM

Thanks Mr. Mckeown. Exceptionally well done. It is encouraging to see that more and more people are taking the blinders off and questioning the "official story". I think it is human nature to condemn something that threatens one's belief system. I am curious as to why this documentary is available only to Canadian viewers.

Jess  Victoria — Posted on November 28, 2009 03:06 AM

3 buildings collapse in one day...that is enough reason to leave no stone unturned. It's interesting how building 7 fall exactly like an implosion and there is no real investigation to get to the bottom of it. At the minimum, for future high-rise safety, this should have been investigated until the cause was 100% determined. If there was no 911 and this building fell like it did, don't you think it would have been put under a microscope? Instead all of the buildings that collapsed that day didn't receive the usual disection that would be automatic when such extreme structural failure happens for the first time in the history of the world. I don't like to hear people say there would have had to be 100's of thousands of people involved in this conspiracy. Not True! A handful of people control the media and the lies were instantaneous. People were told not to speak of what they saw...that is a fact! Money was paid to people so they wouldn't talk...another fact! This entire "official" story will turn out to be just that...a story...and it should have started with "once upon a time". People who don't have any doubts about the official story can't possibly have done their homework. Just give us the Truth! Why is everyone so scared of a NEW, UNBIASED INVESTIGATION? We've squandered money on much less important things. Can anyone honestly say they see nothing unusual with the way our leaders and media completely avoid this subject...that in itself speaks volumes. I do give CBC credit for airing this...it was a good start.

Shelley  — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:48 AM

Character puff piece in the end. Couches "truthers" as cultists and "believers". Doesn't recognize the fact that the whole movement sprung from citizen journalism dissatisfied with mainstream media. Hits on some key points with obligatory rebuttals. Does a good job on forced and coerced speculation as a means of discrediting the meaning and/or facts. Presents half truths throughout. Not really an investigative journalism piece per se - more character study than anything else.

Clearly not balanced though it 'states' that it is. Witness the smirking and smarmy reactions from the host throughout. He also hasn't done his homework on many fronts. Didn't talk with victim families. Left out a key witness in William Rodriguez producers chose to get a 'B' list Hollywood talent instead.

Left out PNAC as well. I could go on. The Northwoods document etc. Trillions missing the day before. Plans for Iraq laid out well in advance - i.e. see today's news.

Credit for showing Building 7 going down and allowing Richard Gage to lay out the facts of elementary physics.

Someday...maybe a 100 years from now, people will marvel in total incredulity that the masses, along with the media, failed to recognize a patently obvious controlled demolition on TV.

If I could make one request to the Fifth Estate it is this. Please investigate 9/11. Go to the 9/11 timeline websites to start with. Read David Ray Griffin's books. Watch Gage's lecture.

You may say that you did that but you didn't. You only investigated the contention of the official story and purview-ed over some of the talking points.

Come on. Be the media. Get your hands dirty. Dig. Connect the dots. Get all the facts from every single side. Look at it from beginning to end. In short, do your job so we don't have to.

Thanks.

Gerry Todd  Edmonton — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:15 AM

I always have to chuckle when I hear the ridiculous official conspiracy defenders' a priori argument about the number of people that would have to have been involved if 9/11 was the result of a black-op. Any claim one way or another is pure speculation and has no place on the evidentiary table. But assuming it was a vast conspiracy as official narrative defenders would have us believe, then it seems fair to point out that the Manhatten project (the building of the atomic bomb) was an amazingly kept secret despite involving tens of thousands of participants across umpteen states and a couple of Canadian provinces. Even Harry Trumann had no awareness of the project until taking over the presidency after FDR's death. How was that even possible? It stretches credulity to think that the axis powers weren't actively engaged in ferreting out military technology secrets. One key to secrecy is most certainly a high degree of compartmentalization, and for those who don't know what that means in the context of special/black operations, perhaps you might want to ask one of the many military/intelligence professionals listed on patriotsquestion911.com. In fact, there you will find an amazing array of the most highly credentialed professionals from numerous fields who question the veracity of the official narrative. As for me, well, 19 guys with box-cutters led by a dialysis patient in a damp Afghan cave bringing the multi-trillion dollar defence/intelligence establishment to its knees��..now that is some far out conspiracy theory!

Martin  — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:12 AM

As one of first Professional Engineers to have signed on to the AE911Truth petition (approx. no. 38 out of 970 presently), I stand firmly behind the science demonstrating that the collapses of WTC 1, 2, and 7 can only be explained by Controlled Demolition.

I only caught the last few minutes of the program this evening, and I am pleased that the issue of the finding of nanothermite was introduced. However, it really needed more time to be able to develop the details behind this research more carefully. It needs to be stressed that this was no ordinary material. It is of a highly processed composition that is capable of being developed only within the most advanced research or military laboratories in the world.

Brent Blanchard tried to argue that because there was no seismic signature, the buildings could not be brought down by controlled demolition. But this is exactly the relevance of nanothermite. Nanothermite does not produce the kind of seismic shock wave that C4 or RDX might. It would not produce a seismic signature. Blanchard's supposed clincher is really completely irrelevant.

Rob Tamaki  Vancouver — Posted on November 28, 2009 02:05 AM

Enjoyed the show Tonight. You came very close to capturing a good amount of the evidence to support an actual independant investigation with sepina power. The 9/11 commision was not allowed to do a proper investigation of 9/11 due to the Bush administration continual blocking them. 6 out of the 10 commisioners have all said publicly at one time that they felt it was a cover up.
The show would have had to have been twice as long to even come close to showing all the evidence against the official story. I suggest reading Charlie Sheens 'Twenty minutes with the President' I have personally researched into this event for eight years and into the conspiracy and the debunking of the conspiracy for the last six years. Charlies "twenty questions" are the best summary of why the official story is more fictional than what has now been proven.
Please check sites such as 'Pilots for 9/11 truth(Gotta see the flight path problems on the Pentagon strike)','Fire fighters for 9/11 truth', and definately 'A&E for 9/11 truth'.
Thanks again cbc!! But there's more, lots more...
Also check into Afganistan and the Cia/Mujahadeen connection(follow through to who is now the president there)...Oh and the 'Progect for a new American Century'
Iraq seems to have been an add on corporate Hoe Down with 9/11 being the trigger.

God, Godess or great big nothing help us all!

I Billeive  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:52 AM

Thankyou Bob McKeown. This was a fair introductory glance at some of the outstanding questions surrounding this seminal event. It was a good start to a dialogue that is long overdue. Let's keep asking hard questions...

Why did the penthouse of Building 7 start to fall 0.5 seconds before the rest of the building? Why did the building exhibit a crimp precisely in the centre of the roof allowing the building to essentially implode and fall into its own footprint, a radius field only 23m wide and just 2-3 stories high?

How is it feasible that a steel-framed skyscraper would collapse symmetrically at free-fall speed given that it only had small fires burning on floors 7-9 and 11-13, and given that it has never happened before or since 9/11?

How is it possible that fire brought down this building if the estimated density of combustible office furnishings and other contents inside WTC 7 was only 4 pounds per square foot (NIST 2007), and given that the estimated time elapsed at any given fire location for these contents to burn up was only 20 minutes (NIST 2007)?

If fire is such a potent catalyst for steel-framed buildings to collapse, why then did a 56-story building in Caracas, Venezuela, that burned over 26 floors for 17 hours, not collapse? There are numerous other examples of buildings that were gutted by fire over many floors; none of these collapsed.

Flying debris from the twin towers supposedly weakened WTC 7 and added to its demise. Yet WTC Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 were much closer to the twin towers and were far more damaged by flying debris than WTC 7, yet these did not collapse. Why?

Given that this was the largest and most tragic architectural failure in human history, why was there no forensic examination of the building evidence?

Of all the forensic evidence (building rubble) at Ground Zero, why were only 4 pieces of WTC 7 saved and catalogued, and why are those pieces missing now? And why? Why, why, why, did the 9/11 Commission not even mention WTC 7 in its 571 page report?

I patiently await answers.

Stephen Badhwar  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:50 AM

This was a very interesting program on the continuing 911 debate. Is what the conspiracy theorists are spouting off even possible??? In my mind, maybe, but highly unlikely. The one new thing that initially had me going was the cell phone calls made by passengers in the planes that according to the expert from University of Western Ontario, couldn't have been made because cell reception at 30,000 feet would have been impossible. The phones would have been out of the service area for the cell phones to work. My understanding and correct me if I'm wrong is 3 fold. First, as far as I know, it is not uncommon to have cellular towers (antennas)on top of high rise buildings in the USA, especially in NY. Secondly, these planes would not have been flying at anywhere near 30,000 feet but more likely between 1000 and 2000 feet at the most during these calls and third, some of those cell phones may have been satellite models which were available at that time. That tells me that the cell calls would have definitely been possible.
The fact that the 911 commission completely bungled this whole investigation doesn't help clear up anything but in fact makes the issues at hand clear as mud. It would be great to get resolve to this once and for all but I know this will not happen. Interestingly enough, the person who said we will not be taken by surprise again or something similar after the attack on Pearl Harbor was likely rolling over in his grave after 911. Your American government once again fell asleep at the wheel and it will happen again but the next time it most likely will be a nuclear dirty bomb awaking you.

deadass  Canada — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:46 AM

It is refreshing that questions are finally being asked out loud to expose what most of us already realize was an incredible hoax. We really have to acknowledge the ingenuity of those who crafted this horrendous feat. How many more years will it take until a real inquiry is held? I doubt if the US government will do a real investigation any time soon as it would be devastating to a country that is already coming apart because of an economic meltdown. Also, even with absolute proof of people in the government or military being involved, about one third of Americans could never believe that their government would do such a terrible thing to its citizens.
I believe that, at this time, the only thing that the people who realize what really happened on 9/11 can do, is to become vigilant in respect to government and the military establishment. If something like this happens again, all we have to do is to observe which people benefit from such an action and immediately control their power. This has been a wake up call for all of us who have become complacent.

Yvonne  vancouver — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:45 AM

Great show as usual Bob! The more things change the more they stay the same. Criminals on this scale count on the masses being numb or distracted while they take actions to improve their own position i.e.)money and/or power. The Romans did it with feed a Christian to the lions night while today its done with cold beer and Monday night football or Hockey Night in Canada. I hope you're around to cover the release of the JFK files in 2017...do people remember that little story? Hard to believe they put a man on the moon, found Sadam but can't find Osama?

Chuck  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:22 AM

Overall, not a bad introduction to the 9/11 issue for the un-initiated. I've been following the issue since about Sept 13th, 2001 and even though there was no new information presented here, it is amazing to see it's growth into the mainstream. I highly doubt the truth will ever see the light of day though, as it is not now nor will ever be politically in the interest of anyone in power to investigate the incidents. Left out of the broadcast (or overlooked) was the fact that 5 out of 10 of the 9/11 official commission members have come forward and spoken out that the commission was a whitewash. "Press for Truth" is the best 9/11 film online that I would recommend. Thanks to the CBC.

Steve Weave  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:19 AM

That the CBC has taken so long and let this despicably corrupt Tory-fascist rump regime in Ottawa murder so many young Canadians (not to mention Afghanis) in an evil, criminal and immoral false war in Afghanistan without breaking this long-stale old tale of so tragically monumental corruption 7 or 8 years ago is the height of journalistic malpractice and editorial hypocrisy!

Letting Americans think that Canada and Canadians had fully bought into this cock and bull MI6/Mossad/CIA Mafia/Bush Al CIAda Terrorist Alibi for 9 years is a crime and a disservice to all humanity deserving of no journalistic medals.

Philip  Windsor — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:15 AM

I just saw "The Unofficial Story" and thought it was very well done, unbiased. Could you please tell me why the essay written by Wolfowitz, etc. which stated that they would "need another Pearl Harbour" to bring about the democratization of the world and listing the countries they would then invade, like Afghanistan, etc. wasn't even mentioned? I have seen a couple stories like yours and keep wondering why it's never mentioned? I personally don't know what to believe, but like your show brings to light, there are more questions than answers in this issue.
Can you please answer this particular question for me?

Leeann  BC — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:14 AM

Not long after 9/11 I became leery of the causes of the incident. I enjoyed your program but cannot fully agree with some of the theories brought up. I do believe that there were other causes that demolished the WTC buildings, not just airplanes. Despite what the demolition expert claimed (and he had some extremely solid points) to my eye and thousands more the collapse of the towers looked exactly like the controlled collapse of old buildings done by demolition experts.

I do not believe the airplanes were painted models of airliners which were flown by radio control. Nor do I believe that the real airliners in question were ditched in the Atlantic.

As a pilot and former air traffic controller I can understand why fighters were not scrambled in that short period of time. It takes a bit of time to confirm a problem with an airplane. I also firmly believe that whoever flew those planes into the towers were very skilled pilots. Not just beginners who had picked up a Private Licence in a Florida flying school. It is very hard to hand fly a big jet at high speeds.

For me personally the crash at the Pentagon building and the demise of Building 7 are very difficult to believe.

The truth has to come out and hopefully soon.

Bill  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:13 AM

This is to Albert Toronto

The is only one conspiracy theory, the one submitted by the Bush Administration.
There is a difference between a fairy tale and the official story.
A fairy tale starts with once upon time.

Gord

Gord  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:12 AM

Did anyone else notice how the "demolition expert" made conflicting comments. On one hand he believes it was very natural for the Towers to collapse the way they did...then later...when referring to the possibility of explosives being planted to implode the building he states "hundreds of beams would have had to be cut to make that building fall" hmm...which way do you want it. If a controlled demolition would require hundreds of beams to be cut, then a near free-fall speed collapse would also require that...and I don't think there was any way hundreds of beams failed simultaneously to cause a symetrical collapse. Anyways, even the people who claim to believe the "official" story don't really believe it in their hearts. They are either paid to speak the way they do or they may be afraid to speak the truth...and some are just in denial.

Jim  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:12 AM

The suggestion of a conspiracy with 9/11 would involve hundreds of individuals in a plot that was nothing short of diabolic madness. Why is it so easy for so many to suggest this theory? Wouldn't it be far more of a possibility that our architects and engineers still have a lot to learn? I am sure in a hundred years those professionals will be astounded at the simplicity of architectural design and elementary engineering of this century.

Bethany Hill  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:11 AM

This is to Albert Toronto

The is only one conspiracy theory, the one submitted by the Bush Administration.
There is a difference between a fairy tale and the official story.
A fairy tale starts with once upon time.

Gord

Gord  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:11 AM

I'll bet these conspiracy theorists think the earth is flat too.And that the earth is the centre of the solar system.

Tim  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:10 AM

CBC was fantastic and have shed needed light on 9/11. All rational people must now understand not only can planes cause buildings to disintergrate but 2 planes can cause 3 buildings to do so.
Biob McKreown deserves a medal and I await with interest his next assignment.

Bob Campbell

Bob Campbell  ponemah — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:04 AM

I looked at the separate interviews posted on the Fifth Estate web site. I did not see Barrie Zwicker's interview. Why? I did not see an interview with McMaster Professor and 9/11 Truther Graeme MacQueen. Why? Why was not Canadian Professor Peter Dale Scott interviewed? Scott's book, The Road to 9/11, is published by the University of California Press? Where were the important insights on 9/11 of Dr. John McMurtry, a Professor of Philosophy at the University of Guelph and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada?

The only truther I saw in the interview section was an American movie star. How does the CBC explain the exclusion of important Canadian voices who have addressed the lies and crimes of 9/11 systematically over many years? Why didn't the Fifth Estate do its homework more conscientiously on the Canadian dimension of the originating event of the Global War on Terror?

We need a Canadian investigation into the Canadian aspect of 9/11 event. Two dozen of our own people were killed in the Twin Towers. Canada is a member of NORAD which failed on 9/11. Thousands of US planes landed in Canada in 9/11 on a moment's notice but NORAD could not get fighter jets up in the crucial period. Why? The Canadian Armed Forces were sent into Afghanistan under the authority of NATO to hunt down CIA asset Osama bin Laden, who is not now on the FBI's most wanted list because of lack of evidence connecting him to 9/11.

None of the Canadian political parties have shown any decent regard for Canadian interests in the Global War on Terror by calling for a Canadian investigation into the Canadian aspects of its originating act. I find this negligence appalling and a complete dereliction of duty.

The mainstream media are so deeply implicated in the disinformation of 9/11 that it would be very difficult for any venue, including the CBC, to begin the process seriously of clearing away the fog of misrepresentation. Every day we see more and more lies and distortions built upon the original lies and distortions of 9/11.

We hope to see CBC lead the way in correcting the most serious journalistic lapse in history, one that has been crucial in shaping the landscape of false public perceptions. The lies and crimes of 9/11 have evolved into an orgy of state terror that undermines our capacity to address the most menacing threats menacing humanity's future.

Anthony J. Hall  — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:03 AM

I like how this story features an organization of 900 engineers and architects whoa ll agree it was a controled demo and the counter argument is made by ONE person, who got hired on the site as a demo guy after the towers went down. I imagine he made alot of money off that job. Second, when people talk about how it would be such a huge conspiracy that it would be impossible to keep it secret for 8 years. To that i say how long was it before the world found out that the nazis were exterminating the jews and how many people and resources did that take. I would think it would be alot easier to fly a couple planes that to secretly slaughter 6 million people

matthew  victoria — Posted on November 28, 2009 01:00 AM

I moved from the States back to Canada in early 2003 for two reasons, health care insurance and the mainstream cover up of the events of 911. Both are blanket indictments of a country that is itself imploding. I couldn't countenance living in a country where this could happen. Dismissive terms such as "conspiracy theorist", "buff" or "truther" function as perfect cultural petrie dishes for insider conspiracy. The public was innoculated against the truth, but this vaccine is wearing off.

Jay Hansen  — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:51 AM

This broadcast is the first evidence that I have seen that a Canadian government-funded media outlet is actually giving the due consideration to the many unanswered questions and omissions that are a part of the US Governement's official story of 9/11. I have hope that maybe Canada can once again be the champions of freedom that we were in WW1 and WW2 and help set western society on a course that is good and right! Everyone....look at the evidence and search your heart. The surviving families of the 9/11 victims and the first responders on whom the US government has turned their backs deserve it!

Okanagan911Truth  — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:31 AM

Like the old saying goes 9/11 was an inside job.

Want to tell me what happened to 2,730' of skyscraper containing millions of tons of concrete and steel? That is just WTC 1 and 2 not including WTC 7 which also collapsed into basically nothing.

Don't tell me it was all hauled away or scrap sold to China without providing proof. I mean real proof not hearsay.

Seen some things  Alberta — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:10 AM

I have watched "documentaries" on U.S. TV that touch on the same subject and have a common thread: they claim to be balanced but tend to depict truthers as paranoid conspiracy freaks. Only outside of the U.S. does the media move the point forward that the "official" story does not jive with physics and logic. But until a credible (and well protected) whistle-blower steps forward to force a new, independent investigation, 911 will remain this generation's "JFK" . Many thanks to the fifth estate for bringing this episode to air.

mike  winnipeg — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:06 AM

The 'official' story is so mythical, it takes someone brain dead to believe it.

Your presentation was excellent.

You are the first main stream media that presented both sides competently and honestly - warts too - of the controversy of 9/11.

I applaud your team for the journalistic bravery to step forward and lead the search for the truth - no matter what it may be - for all of us!

The truth shall set us free.

Bravo!

B Jones  Edmonton — Posted on November 28, 2009 12:01 AM

Thanks to the CBC for airing this program. Hopefully it will encourage people to further investigate (you can do it) for themselves.

Nine eleven is an inside job and won't somebody in authority ask questions, demand answers and arrest the criminals?

Bob Campbell

Bob Campbell  ponemah — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:57 PM

Hello , I just watched your programme about the 911 attacks on NYC. I have a question that i have not heard anyone talk about. On the footage of the planes crashing into the WTC buildings, the planes are unrecognizable. They appear to be shadowed or painted black, you can not recognize the name or painting on the plane.I have worked beside the international airport in Vancouver for the last 18 years and enjoy watching the planes fly in everyday. There has never been ,except in darkness ,a time when i haven't been able to identify the airline. Even on the worst rainy days, the planes are easilly identified. The weather in NY. that morning was clear and sunny. American Airlines have chrome covered planes , but even in the direct sunlight you can see the symbol on the tail fin, and they never appear black. Thanks for your excellent programming, Paul Mann.

Paul Mann  — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:23 PM

finally a network with some b---s.....Thanks CBC

jay  edmonton — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:20 PM

Nice job on the documentary tonight. It's about time that the mainstream media give this story some attention, seeing as this event that occurred in 2001 has shaped and influenced almost every aspect of our lives since; from foreign and domestic policy, ( the Afghan and Iraq wars, and tightening of borders and limiting of rights and freedoms).

You guys forgot to mention that on the morning of 9/11 NORAD happened to be conducting a war games exercise.
Authorities also miraculously produced Mohammed Atta's passport from the rubble of the Twin Towers and used that as 'evidence'. Atta was supposedly in the cockpit that exploded and most of the building was reduced to dust during the collapse but somehow the passport managed to survive with a few scratches.
YOu guys also failed to mention William Rodriguez who was a janitor a the WTC and was inside at the time. He reported that he heard several explosions coming from the basements before the collapse. ALso NYC firefighters reported hearing a series of cascading explosions that preceded the collapse. Such information supports the demolition theory and at the very least warrants and official investigation.

The Bush administration profited so much from the fear generated by 9/11 and they had cart blanche to push through any law they wanted.
The Patriot act is a prime example: taking away freedoms in the name of national security. Also look at the UK where the government has used this so called Global War on Terrors an excuse to plunge the country into and Orwellian nightmare. Those poor souls are basically living in a police state.

People say that it would b impossible to pull off such a crime and keep people quiet. But it is within the realm of possibility, as long as everything is compartmentalized and there are the right propaganda tools in place.
Just look what happened with the Iraq War. The entire nation and the UK was duped into invading Iraq through a constant blitz of information through the American news networks and print media. The Bush Admin even bought advertising space in prominent magazines and dressed up stories that were made to look like independent journalism (which is illegal BTW), all promoting the invasion of Iraq. They basically controlled and manipulated the entire MSM and the media has never made amends or apologized or made amends for the part they played.
The intelligence community employs hundreds of thousands of people as well as thousands of businesses used as front companies, ( look it up).

I think most people find the thought that the gov't would do something so horrible and when you present them with the possibility it is so thoroughly beyond the realm of possibility for them that they simply can't take it and call you things like, crazy, or say, "put on your tinfoil hat!" and in the US it's worse because 'truthers' can become the victims of this neo-McCarthyism where they get blacklisted and shouted down as unpatriotic.

But hey, I think that if we are going overseas to fight two wars then we better ask every da,m question possible. And why did we go to Afghanistan? TO get Osama of course, ( and oust the Taliban). But when we couldn't get him it turned into this whole nation building facade. Um.....WTF ???
The 9/11 hijackers SAUDIS!

You guys should do a documentary with Jesse Ventura He asks a lot of great questions and has a lot of great things to say, like Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset in the 80's and 90's whose organization was funded and supported. Osama bin Laden is the Lee Harvey Oswald of this century.

Wow that was a long comment!
Keep up the good work and keep fighting the good fight and don't be intimidated by those who would wrongly accuse you of being unpatriotic or of not supporting the troops, ( that one's my favourite), when you are simply shedding light on the dark truth that,

(puts on sunglassses)
effects us all and shapes our daily lives more and more each day,


YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

Bill B  Canada — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:19 PM

I do not believe in the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Having worked in structural steel back in the 1970's I the official explanation makes sense to me.
The structural engineering or archetectural concept used in the World Trade Center was quite novel at the time it was built, it used significantly less steel than conventional high rise buildings, however now that we know what can happen when such a structure is hit or suffers a fire as in building # 7 should we not be asking what other buildings have the same type of construction?

Dave Fink  — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:17 PM

This was an excellent documentary, I believe asking many of the 9/11 questions that have yet to be answered. The idea that the United States government would be willing to let 9/11 happen, or worse, orchestrate it, is one that is so difficult to swallow, so hard to believe, it makes it actually doable. In the minds of the engineers of such an attack, they would think no one would believe their own government was involved.

Thanks to the shows like The Fifth Estate and the internet conspiracy theorists, politicians and others in positions of power, are finding it more difficult to perpetuate the myths of history and current events that they have fed us for so long.

Well done Fifth Estate

Robert   — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:15 PM

All it would take would be one person to speak and the whole conspiracy would fail. So I am to believe these hundreds(thousands?) of people can all keep this a secret? I think not.......

Let us not forget the look on President Bush when he was told of this tragedy. Do you really think he is that good of an actor? I think not........

macrda  Saskatchewan — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:13 PM

This show did not respect the memory of the victims of September 11, and it was very sad to see a a prestige media like CBC participating in giving legitamcy to this consiperacy thories.
You made me a shamed to be Canadian today.

Jim  Toronto — Posted on November 27, 2009 11:07 PM

9/11 was a black op, fed piece by piece to those who took part in it on a "need-to-know" basis. As such, it is not necessary that thousands of people keep their mouths shut. Thousands helped unwittingly to plan and to carry out the operation and, quite possibly, they still do not know the small role they played. Only the fanatical planners and leaders know the full story and this is a small group. They won't tell what they know until a critical mass of American citizens demands it. Unless the American media decides to do its job, properly investigate the official story and chase the lies supporting this career-killer story to their logical end, as Woodward and Bernstein did on Watergate, Americans will remain skeptical. There is an awesome and terrifying story here and the facts do not lie. If the media continues to shirk, we'll never expose the perpetrators behind these disturbing questions.

Dave Clark  — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:51 PM

Thank you CBC for finally giving an unbiased view of what happened that day. Finally, a reputable news agency asking those questions I was asking within hours of that day. Mr. McKeown for not being one of the many so-called reporters who acted like it was verbotten to ask those questions. Congratulations Fifth Estate for being Canada's premiere news agency. As a Canadian, I'm proud.

Dianne  Canada — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:50 PM

It would seem as with other tragic events in our history the mysterious alternate explanations keep popping up like kernels of corn in an obsessed popping machine of alarm and anxiety doused with a hearty coating of oh so good buttery paranoia.

Like Scully and Mulder, millions keep flocking back to these theories in an obsessive compulsive search for the truth. Simply do a search on google for �911 conspiracy� and you�ll see 13,000,000 results pop up for your efforts.

You can�t help but wonder to yourself when you see a return like that if these folks are on to something. Fortunately for me when I start thinking that the power of reasoning takes over and I snap back to reality.

While conspiracy theories are fun to talk about, sexy and fascinating they�re simply a way of making sense of the unknown. The shock of what took place that fateful day still resonates strongly and the answers given just don�t seem good enough to explain something of such scale and horror for many. It just can�t be as simple as crazed religious extremists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings in an effort to shake the foundations of America. No, it must be a bunch of secret agent men, under the command of a devil worshipping president who is hell bent on sacrificing his own people on their own soil in an effort to ring the bells of war all apparently in the name of black gold.

The very idea of all of these "theories"is so absurd to me. It does however make it all a little easier doesn�t it? I mean that is a more comforting thought if you will, as opposed to fearing your nation�s security is terrible, lackadaisical and prone to attack. Easier than understanding your nation has the best toys in the toy box and that irritates others.

The simple fact at the end of the day is this. It most certainly was crazed religious extremists who hijacked those planes and flew them into the twin towers and the pentagon. Angry, extreme, and hell bent on meeting their maker they succeeded. They found a hole in Americas security and took advantage of it. It�s terrible and tragic.

What would be more tragic is to taint the truth of what happened and why, with backyard barbeque debates on the secret villains within and forgetting lessons that should have been learned.

J. Wyndels  Steinbach — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:45 PM

I watched your "Unofficial Story" piece with interest. The deficiencies presented by the "truth" side seem more far fetched than the official version! Way too many people have to be involved and keep WAY too many secrets. On the technical side, the one interviewee suggested that cell phones would not work on planes. While they are considered to possibly interfere with electronic systems on the plane and are therefore banned, there is nothing to prevent them from working just fine. Cell towers transmit further than the 10 km up that a plane flies. Also perhaps your news people can verify what I heard. I understand that the aircraft chartered by political leaders during elections are what is called "Safecell" equipped and that reporters and others are talking virtually all the time during the duration of the flight. The aircraft electronics on those and other airline Airbus planes are shielded from cell frequencies.

Gary Poetschke  — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:44 PM

Not a bad program overall. Thanks Mr McKeown.
There was a lot of credible information questioning the official story while Jim Meigs of Popular Mechanics just sounds and looks so disingenuous and smarmy. Although Kee Dewdney should not be the guy speaking for the "Truth movement."
It is very difficult to believe that building 7 could collapse the way it did without controlled demolition. Unfortunately the show didn't have time or decided not to talk about the eyewitness (earwitness?) accounts of bombs going off in all 3 buildings. The never talked to William Rodriguez who was "the last man out" and spoke of explosions in the basement levels of building 2 before the 1st plane impact.
Also considering the information coming out in the Iraq inquiry in London, 9/11 was a timely coincidence considering the Bush administration were planning on regime change in Iraq.
Then there is the PNAC "process of transformation" statement.
And on and on.
The truth is, we don't know the truth but it is interesting to hear that so many people don't believe the official story. That says a lot about the credibility of the mainstream media and our politicians of the day.
That many people can't all be crazy can they???

Arnie Hyma  Clarington — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:37 PM

Wow. Just caught this episode and I must say it is something else to witness just how deep and far reaching
these liars and lies really go. Instead of some real cutting edge truthful journalism we got yet more well crafted propaganda. Bob McKeown shows us a bunch of stuff and then asks the all important doozy " well-gee, why would'nt the bad guys just use missiles?" "why cover it up?" and "if it was a cover-up WHOA - it sure must be a lot of people" :O doh! ya - "conspiracy theorists" what a bunch of loons eh ! Conveniently we get a shot of the working class gentleman and McKeown hovering over some "official" 9-11 vibro-scan whatchamacallit squigly line documents(ya ok) that are supposed to prove that there were no planted explosives and conveniently are supposed to disqualify all other outstanding evidence to the contrary. And then to top it all off we get the "it's dangerous and makes us look bad in the eyes of the world to ask questions" rant. Why am I not surprised that this was yet another fluffy frosted farce.

joker  Canada — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:36 PM

It seems as though people think the US is untouchable and that this attack could not have possibly happened to them. The truth is - The US was attacked and they were unprepared. The US may do many wrong things around the world but there is no way they would attack their own country.

Annahbellah  — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:34 PM

It was ok, but being an x pilot, I know jets are scrabbled fast, Payn Stewart plane was intercepted with in five Minutes of his plane going off course, that was before 911

The guy from Popular mechanics, is creepy

Smoking Man  Canada — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:28 PM

Hello!

It's just amazining that there are people like that... they look "normal"... and talk "normal"... yet are sooo lost.

sakari  Canada — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:16 PM

I am one of those people who truly believe that the Bush Administration did have advance warnings/knowledge of the impending attack on their home land. I believe that they ignored these warnings in their arrogant way of "They wouldn't dare", attitude. But that is as far as it goes. I do not believe in this conspiracy theory and people blowing up the buildings. When a jet plane full of jet fuel lands smack in the middle of a building it will take it down. I have visited ground zero and anyone who has been there can only come away with the deep feeling that only evil can have set out to do something like this. I do, however, believe that President Obama should set out to investigate the Bush Administration and Bush himself.

Cheryl   — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:16 PM

Why is it so hard to believe that the US government might have concocted this horror? They were able to lie to their people and the world about the truth that started the war in Iraq, about torturing prisoners, and so many other things. It is no surprise that the trust has been seriously damaged.

I for one, have never believed the 'story' doled out to the people. Watching that day and since, it has never made sense to me as a lay person that those towers should implode the way they did. The implosion always reminded me of demolitions of buildings I had seen before.

I have no idea what the truth is and perhaps we will never know but if Colin Powell could be fooled when he was in the inner sanctum, why not us?

DM Mc  — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:11 PM

A well balanced documentary that allowed the conspiracy theorists to express their views, but gave equal time to mainstream thought. By giving the CT's another platform, it simply let them be exposed as inconsistent fiction writers.

Albert  Toronto — Posted on November 27, 2009 10:00 PM

Congratulations, much much much belated, to CBC for finally getting on this. I have been trying to interest Enright for years, but he thinks "Truthers" are nuts.

It's the official story that is nuts, and it is a lie. We were attacked by extremist elements from both within and without the United States, not by Muslims, or Arabs. These people owe allegiance to no country, no ideology, -- as they work for "our shadowy masters".

The attacks on 911 amounted to a coup in America, and Bush was nothing but a moronic pawn, clay in the hands of those actors determined to forge a "new world order", and then they did.

Bill Owen  Ottawa — Posted on November 27, 2009 09:57 PM

Thanks to Canada, not US media, the truth will get out there. We were all taken for a ride on 9/11 and who benefitted? Bush got 2 illegal wars, no results of the recount announced, and the Patriot Act rolled over America. Follow the money........
There are so many groups pushing for 9/11 truth and I've interviewed most of them...
Together we can bring the truth out and punish the traitors that ruined our country.

Meria  — Posted on November 27, 2009 09:30 PM

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