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Disappearing Act: Discussion
Originally broadcast on October 2, 2008  |  Comments 25

It was the headline that grabbed national attention. A fugitive returning to face justice.

No one would mistake the image of the grey-haired, haggard figure that stepped off the plane at Toronto airport and into the waiting handcuffs of the police, as a hardened criminal. David Reiner, after all, was a sixty-one-year-old bookkeeper and by all the accounts of those who knew him, he was a compassionate professional who had never broken a law; a trusted friend to the many people who had hired him to balance their books.

But, David Reiner had gone missing two years before that scene at the airport. One day, he had simply vanished after stealing almost a million dollars from twenty-one non-profit daycare centers. Why Reiner had turned into a thief and then done a Disappearing Act was a mystery. Family and friends were baffled. Maureen Myers, of McMurrich Sprouts daycare center had known Reiner for almost twenty years. "I spend a lot of time thinking about it. Why would somebody do this? Why would somebody rip off children?"

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You can fool some people all the time, all people some
of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. This guy struck me as a classic low level [non-
violent] sociopath, no conscience, not even a glimmer
of admitting the evil of his actions, never mind remorse
That sad puppy hangdog look he worked on Hana;was she
sucked in or was she thinking about ratings? There's a
sucker born every minute. Did David Reiner take lessons
from P.T.Barnum?His act belongs in a circus and he belongs in an African jail.

Julio  Victoria,B.C. — Posted on March 10, 2010 07:52 PM

I would like to comment on the David Reimer story. I would like to know why the Fifth Estate brought David Reimer back to Canada to face charges? Why not allow him to be snared by Ugandan justice? He deserved it especially steeling from people that are poorer than Canadians and non-profit organizations. Ugandan laws are much tougher than Canada, people like that do not deserve to live. People have enough adversity in life, we don't need David Reimer roaming the streets of Canada, our laws are too soft.

Les Kiss  Calgary — Posted on June 7, 2009 06:41 PM

Thanks for all the comments, I think that David Reiner has now been released from prison. He will never be able to repay all the money he stole from his trusting victims, either in Canada or here in Africa.

So in a real sense those debts which never die means that Justice, or a big part of it will remain forever undone.

But his cover is NOW BLOWN, most of us will not be foolish twice and trust David Reiner (now" Kasibante") ever again.

Personally I want to thank the 5th Estate crew including Hana Gartner for bringing David back to Canada, I want to Thank Canada for doing this at public expense. I hear the anger and pain of all those who said "better to let him rot in Africa"

But he was still preying on peoples trust here in Africa, David Reiner thought that his only survival skill was to con people here in Africa, myself included. He absolutely manipulated our Human Nature to help.

A very sad case, literally a hidden "thorn in the water"

Frankly we have enough problems here in Africa without having to deal with the David Reiner's of the world.

Thanks to Canada's Fifth Estate for taking responsibility in dealing with your own "TAKA TAKA"! (Kiswahili for litter)

Mike Rainy  — Posted on May 30, 2009 12:08 AM

I will never watch ""Fifth Estate '' again if i thought for one moment that CBC had anything to do with him on that airplane. This is my first e-mail ,,,to coment on anything,,,really i feel sick. I thought your show had intellegant people hired. You are4 just as bad as him!!!!I hope you all get your pink slips SOON

Anonymous  — Posted on May 3, 2009 01:48 PM

I too watch the rerun last night and was very disappointed that this man escaped justice once again by his cowardly craftiness.I am also a single mom who has been taken advantage of by this kind of a person and would have been encouraged to see him get what he deserves in Africa.

Anonymous  vancouver — Posted on April 25, 2009 01:45 PM

I've watched the Fifth Estate episode "Dissapearing Act" a couple of times now, and it is very well done. The reporting handles a number of important topics that I see including limitations to Canadian law enforcement, the need to be cautious and diligent when retaining financial services advise and "professional" help, sociopathic behavior and how difficult it can be to identify, con artist motivations and more. Well done! This is not the first time someone has stolen and conned people, charities, disadvantaged and elderly out of their money. Good to see this criminal go down, thanks to the team at CBC and the Fifth Estate.

Paul  Vancouver — Posted on April 25, 2009 01:13 AM

I watched a re-run of this episode the other night and like many here I was sickened by how low Hanna Gardner and the CBC would go to try and get a rating. This jerk should have rotted in Africa. Ms Gardner and the CBC should be made to pay for his upkeep here. They were the ones looking to profit from the investment in his return.

No information was given on his debts when he left Canada. I expect that he took a lot of this money and paid down debts that left his family with less hardship.

It is a kind of Pathos that the CBC is now crying for money just like Reiner. Maybe he can provide consulting for a fee.

Rick  Ottawa — Posted on April 22, 2009 08:16 AM

How sad for his family - what seemed like a caring, normal person to turn to this crime of "robbing" the centres and what about the Stephen Lewis Foundation? This organization has been working for years to do good in Africa and help the helpless. Will the people there trust again? David Reiner will deserve what he gets and I hope the law will be severe with him. What if the air fare was not paid for him and he stayed in Uganda. Maybe it would have been a bitter lesson for him and we the Canadian taxpayers do not have to foot the bill while he sits in "Club Fed". In watching him on the fifth estate he did not seem to feel remorseful at all, on the contrary, he seemed to believe that what he did was alright. Surely does not send the right message - he certainly is a con-man even if he doesn't think so. He should be exploited for all it is worth!!

Pearl  Montreal — Posted on December 16, 2008 07:13 PM

Well this mans trials and tribulations obviously were not met. It is hard not to judge this man, but it seems he has failed himself at every turn. It is too bad that those in need suffered the most from his actions. I am glad he is out of Africa, not for his sake, but for the sake of the Africans he is hurting. Now if we can only change our laws and deal with this man properly...

Richard   — Posted on December 15, 2008 02:13 PM

It's too bad you felt the need to allow this man to perpetrate one more con on the Canadian public by using taxpayers funds to save him from the fate he faced in Africa. He can now look forward to a minimal sentence in a minimum security facility all at the expense of the taxpayer. He will have all his health needs taken care of in his declining years and can even get a degree while in custody. I hope you feel the ratings worth the loss of all journalistic integrity. Only in Canada!

Tom  Ontario — Posted on December 15, 2008 12:06 AM

I am now convinced Canadians are nothing but bleeding heart Liberals,because no matter how heinous the individual or how terrible the crime you can always count on a Canadian to come to their rescue. I can't believe your show gave this guy a free ticket home. You should have left him to rot in Africa.

Mike M.  — Posted on December 14, 2008 08:04 PM

I think you made a big mistake bringing this Man back to Canada to let all the tax payers pay for his stay I think you should have left him in Africa

Frank Bouckhuyt  — Posted on December 13, 2008 12:36 PM

I am very disappointed, that the fifth estate thought that he diserved to be flown back to canada on canadian tax payers funds and put into a prison system where he will have a better quality of life then those he robbed in Africa can only dream about. Why would the fifth estate give this man money? (Flying him home)
I think the money spent by the fifth estate to cover this story could have saved a childs life in Africa. The groups that he mislead in Africa could have done much more with that money and made life there alot better.
He chose to flee Canada and he Chose to con people in a poor country and then when the heat was turned up in Africa the Fifth Estate came to his rescue. When the child care companies he stole from began to close, why did the fifth estate not step in and save them as well?

Emily Degagne  — Posted on December 13, 2008 02:20 AM

An accountant that embezzles from his clients without keeping a book?? Impossible. He obviously never intended on coming back to Canada. He abandoned the law, his clients, his family and friends, and his country.

Reiner pretends not to know why he did all this to avoid revealing the awful truth about his acts, which proves he is fully aware that he is a criminal who deserves to pay for what he did.

I think the fifth did the right thing by paying Reiner's ticket home, I saw it as a simple way to quickly resolve that particular aspect of the story. And perhaps eventually helping a fellow Canadian along on his journey to accountibility.

Peter Corps  — Posted on October 23, 2008 04:34 AM

What a world in which we live. I cannot believe that this man could bilk day care centres of $800,000. That said, I cannot believe that the CBC would use taxpayer dollars to fly a man out of a country to which he has fled and in which he likely needs to be prosecuted for fraud in East Africa.

What were you thinking? The Consulate refused to fly him back here, as this violates protocol and foreign policy to protect, similarly, taxpayer dollars. How can CBC's Fifth Estate think such a move is a wise one?

Why would CBC, on our tax dollars, violate foreign policy created by duly elected officials with accountability to the public. Who would authorize this expenditure in a corporate decision for ratings, that violates Canadian policy?

Perhaps, East Africa cannot afford to summon this man to justice and put him up as he pays for the wrongs toward Africa, but he manipulated The Fifth Estate, as much as his other victims, and, therefore, Canadian taxpayers as much as those whom he directly defrauded.

Jennifer Jilks  — Posted on October 8, 2008 09:39 AM

I cannot help but wonder how much money CBC invested in presenting this story. From research and production time in Toronto to the cost of flying and accomodating cast and crew in Africa and ultimately paying to fly Reiner home it seems the funds might have been better spent making a donation to the Centres that he practically wiped out and leaving Reiner to enjoy his retirement years in an African prison.

Anonymous  Toronto — Posted on October 6, 2008 06:45 PM

I watched the program last night and after hearing the interview with Hanna prior to the program I was expecting that the program would shed some light on what had happened to the money. Also, at the end Hanna was responding negatively to Reiner's request of the CBC to bring him home the day after the Fifth Estate program would air. So who paid for his trip to Canada in the end? What is the status of his case now?
A very sad story about a man whose life has been ruined and who ruined other lives in the process.

Micky  Toronto — Posted on October 6, 2008 03:30 PM

David Reiner was my accountant for years. I first met him because he made a donation of his time to a charity auction for a women's organization here in Toronto. I bid, and got his donated services to do two tax returns. That year, he did tax returns for me and my husband - came to our house, helped us sort through all our paperwork, and was patient and kind.

The next year, we asked him to do our taxes again. He charged us very little, even though he came to our place and spent a lot of time assisting us. In subsequent years, we insisted on paying more then what he'd asked us, and even so, it was far too little.

He never took anything more from us than a very reasonable fee, a piece of cake and a cup of coffee. He talked a lot about africa and how he loved it there. He talked about his daughters. I could never understand how he took so much time giving care and advice while charging so little money. I did feel that he was unhappy. I thought he was in the wrong job for his character.

He shows no recognition for the terrible harm he did to others. And at the same time, I find this hard to reconcile with the generosity (for no personal gain) he showed towards me. He worked hard for many years before doing these terrible things. While the program fills in information about where he went and what he did since he left Canada, it doesn't shed much light on what was behind his decisions.

Julia G.  Toronto — Posted on October 6, 2008 10:42 AM

I was shocked at this programme and the story of David. How could this man hurt so many people and to use the Stephen Lewis foundation as a cover is unforgiveable! I am a member of the Grandmothers Group and we have worked so hard to raise money for the Stephen Lewis Foundation and believe in Stephen. Now, I'm afraid this will most certainly affect our groups' ability to raise funds in our community. Will people believe that the money does get to the grandmothers and children in Africa? More to the point, do I believe it now?

Barbara  — Posted on October 6, 2008 06:40 AM

I'm curious to know what he did with all that money. He does not seem to have lived an extravagant life, or to have been hooked on drugs. So where did the money go?

Desmond  Winnipeg — Posted on October 6, 2008 01:13 AM

Maybe I missed something.... but I still dont know what he did with all the money.??? I lived In Canada and raised 2 children on $10,000 to $15,000 for over 30 years.I would think that in Africa one's cost of living would be quite minimal, relative to Canada.

ml johnstone  — Posted on October 5, 2008 08:48 PM

THE MAN STRUCK ME AS DELUSIONAL, STILL IMAGINING THAT HE WAS AN HONEST AND GRAND HUMAN BEING. HE WOULD BE HELPFUL AND THEN FELT THE NEED TO HELP HIMSELF. SOME SORT PSYCHOLOGICAL TEST WILL BE DONE AND HOPEFULLY IT CAN ESTABLISH A REASON FOR HIS LACK OF CONSCIENCE. THE COURTS WILL NEED TO DO THE REST.

VERY PLEASED THAT THE FIFTH ESTATE INTERVIEWED STEPHEN LEWIS SO HE WAS ABLE TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. IT WOULD BE A SAD DAY FOR MANY IN AFRICA SHOULD THE FUND RAISING EFFORTS AND SUPPORT BE INTERRUPTED.

BARBARA from WOODSTOCK

BARBARA  — Posted on October 4, 2008 10:44 PM

I watched this con-man commit his final "trick", have Canadian taxpayers pay for his food and shelter. I don't understand why CBC would have paid the money to fly him back to Canada. In my opinion the ultimate justice would be to have him deal with the consequences in Africa. Instead he will be in a Canadian jail where he will enjoy a better life than what was waiting for him in Africa.... all at the taxpayer's expense. Sorry, justice was not served.

Nadia  Windsor — Posted on October 4, 2008 04:04 PM

I saw this program, I knew this person and at first was shocked by what he did. but watching this show showed me that he is still a con man and very selfish. He hurt his family very much and the childcare community and still wanted to control when he would come home on someone elses
money. He will go to court and play very innocent and bewildered by all this and hope that he will get off. how about the staff that may have not gotten paid because of this

elaine  GTA — Posted on October 3, 2008 03:15 PM

I watched the episode last nite. It made me sick. I can't believe Reiner considers himself to be a Canadian. I consider him to be a traitor. My only wish would've been, that he had what was coming to him and be left in Uganda. He only considered his position to be better in a Canadian prison. Which is a whole other story. A hotel with everything included. What do we get from our so called "prisoners". Not even an honest days work, for their upkeep....

Darren  Alberta — Posted on October 2, 2008 03:05 PM

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