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Dear Fifth, please keep pursuing this important story for Canadian democracy. Some questions. How is it that Claude Armand Sheppard represented the government of Canada in questioning mulroney back in the 90s when he also represented mulroneys tax attorney just prior to that? Don't law societies have conflict of interest guidelines surrounding that sort of thing? Also William Johnstone who wrote the mandate of the Oliphant commission - wasnt he a former employee of mulroney and a connected person politically with tories? The oliphant commission sounds like a whitewash much like gommery.
patrick halifax
— Posted on August 29, 2009 09:30 PM
What's all the fuss about the Airbus deal. I just flew back from Toronto aboard an Airbus A320. I think it's a great plane that Mr Mulroney selected for Air Canada!
(Ed: It's hard to believe I haven't found a more up-to-date CBC/Fifth discussion area on Mulroney/Schreiber.)
Why have we not seen or heard a pundit, commentator, or Hill reporter pointing out that Brian Mulroney actually lied under oath during his lawsuit against the Canadian government (originally for $50 million but which the then-Liberal government settled for "only" $2.1 million)?
Why?
The government settled because Mulroney rose to the occasion with all the indignation he could muster, in his stentorious voice with crocodile tears almost flowing, and asserted unequivocally: “I had never had any dealings with [Karlheinz Schreiber.]”
That statement was a bare-faced lie.
The more recent revelations of Mulroney acting as his own bagman and accepting envelopes stuffed with $1000 bills (which are no longer printed by the Canadian government, as they made illegal money laundering too easy), clearly show that he most emphatically lied under oath.
Not "allegedly". Clearly. Unequivocally. Without the shield of Parliamentary privilege. Televised to the whole nation.
Surely the Canadian government can now successfully recover that money, and Mulroney should be charged with perjury? This debacle has lowered the image of the highest office in our land to the sewer-like level of Nixon and the the Watergate scandal.
A.B.Mayo Ottawa
— Posted on May 13, 2009 08:19 PM
Watch the Inquiry on May 12th 2009, when Brian the ****** is supposed to appear for the first time. Will they allow him to have his belt on ?
Maybe he will call in sick ?
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO KARL HEINZ SHRIEBER.POLITICIANS HAVE A WAY OF HIDING EVRY BAD THINGS THE GOVERMENT IS DOING OR DID IN THE PASS.
Mulroney was a lawyer and a member of a firm. Law firm partnerships always provide that members of a firm place all funds received for future fees be placed in trust and not paid out (to the firm) un til billed. Assuming Mulroney is indeed telling the truth, he would be in breech of his partnership agreement and the rules of his Bar Association in placing the funds in his own private safe.
No lawyer would do this. Such funds (again assuming Mulroney is telling the truth) would be placed in trust and the fees subsequently billed shared as firm monies.
The fact that he did not do this strongly suggests his version of th events - and the reasons given for accepting the money - are not truthful.
No great surprise. $300,000 is a large fee even for his firm and not one member of that firm nor the media seem to have looked at this aspect of the mater.
It is very telling that Mulroney achieved the dubious status of being more slimy than a known bag man (or at least a lobbyist for big corporation.)
WHo would have thought that the day would come that Karl would be taken as being more genuine and having more integrity than Brian...
BRians position was moral outrage and indignation, attack attack attack,
litigate litigate litigate,
yell scream pontificate,
throw money at it until the other runs out of money
or cuts their losses and move on.
It worked so well in the past, for some nefarious wrong-doers who claim complete innocence ( well, i'd never ever do such a thing...!!! ) yet in the end, for many of these people, their own words come back to bite them.
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Mo
— Posted on January 12, 2008 07:16 AM
I have to admit that I've never been a fan of Brian Mulroney and his political style. I never understood how a man of such arrogance could be the receiptent of the Order of Canada. It just gulls me that we took this man to court and ended up paying him 2.5 million in our tax dollars just to go away. I wonder if this had come to light at the time if it would have had some influence on the out come of the inquiry. If it is found that he has lied I believe the citizens of this country are owed the Order of Canada back.
We applaud the tenacity of the cbc fifth estate in pursuing the Mulroney-Schreiber matter! Canadians may yet know whether the Harper government is more interested in higher ethics in government than simply protecting Mr. Mulroney and throwing Schreiber out of the country to avoid any possible future embarrassment. The ethics committee looking into this affair does not have all the powers that a public enquiry would have to get to the bottom of things. Evidently, the issue for Mr. Mulroney boils down to credibility, but he wants to have it both ways. He accepts the words of Mr. Schreiber when they are favourable to him, but rejects them as lies when they are not. That is an untenable position. If Schreiber cannot be believed, he should not be believed on anything! Mr. Mulroney still doesn't get it, that Canadians are so embarrassed that their former Prime Minister goes into local and foreign hotels to receive envelopes stuffed with $1,000 bills. That is why for so many Canadians, the issue has become simply one of determining who is a better liar, not that one has credibility on his side! Neither Mr. Mulroney nor Mr. Schreiber has so far told "the whole truth and nothing but the truth" and they know it! No theatrics please!
Dr. Sam Ifejika
Anonymous Toronto
— Posted on December 13, 2007 09:27 PM
Say what you will about Schriber and his motives, but the fact is that both agree that cash was given, and BM kept it in a safety deposit box. In my world (tax auditor) this usually happens for one reason: to hide money. And to have reported this cash as income well after the fact is again very interesting. Why was it not reported as income in the year it was received? Why cash? Why not deposit the cash to earn interest? It certainly leads people to suspect that no one was to know about the money....
Karl
— Posted on December 13, 2007 06:16 PM
I think Mulroney is the con man.
I am also wondering if Brian Mulroney is thinking he can sue the government again and get another 2.1 million. Wouldn't that be something!
Art Toronto
— Posted on December 13, 2007 05:52 PM
Mr.Schreiber said he gave Mr. Mulroney $300,000; and Mr. Mulroney said he only got $225,000. Could anyone ask them go through a lie detector test ? On CBC one to one interview on Tuesday, Mr. Schreiber did mention that he is willing to have a lie dectector Test if we do not believe him for any reason - it is just by my memory, I hope I am right.
Hope someone knows Canadian law well will give me an answer. Thanks.
Louis Lee
— Posted on December 13, 2007 02:32 PM
Does Mr Mulroney think people are going to believe that the deals he made were Legit? He was not only a prime minister of Canada but he is also a lawyer. I cant believe he deposited money in a deposit box and thinks it was only an oversight and people should forgive him for that mistake. Who does he take the Canadian people for? The whole deal stinks!
Boyd Mwanza Halifax
— Posted on December 13, 2007 11:07 AM
Given that Schreiber was a Canadian resident when he received commissions from A & T, where is the evidence that he declared the related net income therefrom, and related deductions for expenses incurred, such as payments to GCI etc., and why hasn't this been demanded of him, and if there be no such evidence then why hasn't Schreiber been charged with tax evasion (and influence peddling) in Canada by Canadian authorities, instead of the Canadian authorities trying to extradite him out of Canada ? Perhaps we'd get more of the truth from him if he were so charged and bargaining for a dangled deal. Seems strange that the spectre of Canadian charges based just on what the man has so far publicly revealed has not been raised by the Canadian press or parliamentarians.
Rod Duncan Toronto
— Posted on December 12, 2007 11:30 AM
its time the cbc moved on before they get sued.
bob ward ottawa
— Posted on December 11, 2007 07:38 PM
Why is CBC News so bent on dragging the Harper government into the Mulroney soap opera? At no time was Jean Chretien smeared in this way over his government's multimillion-dollar patronage scandal.
And how do we imagine Mulroney can be made to pay back the $2.1 million that the Chretien government paid him? The Chretien Liberals admitted that they had slandered Mulroney in connection with the Airbus contract. That settlement was entered in the Registry of the Superior Court of Ontario. It cannot be reopened by a parliamentary committe or even by Parliament itself.
We will hear Mulroney admit to an indiscretion in accepting Schreiber's $300,000 but not to any actionable wrongdoing.
Schreiber will eventually be sent back to Germany and convicted of fraud, bribery and tax evasion. The fact that he will end his life in jail shows that he is not quite so clever as he and so many others think.
None of this impacts the Harper Conservatives in the least. Stephen Harper is among the least charismatic of our prime ministers, but he is also the first professional economist ever to hold the office. Harper is thus a designated realist and for that reason one of the most effective prime ministers we have ever had.
Calm down, folks! Very little of this story has been proven. In fact the Chretien government admitted in 2001 that most of it is slanderous and therefore cannot possibly be proven.
Even the Fifth Estate reports rely far more on hearsay than fact.
The forthcoming public enquiry is a "bombshell" only in Lyndon McIntyre's fevered imagination. To the rest of us it's a normal and welcome procedure.
We all look forward to hearing the answers from Mulonrey himself.
I'm all for Brian Mulroney returning his Order of Canada Medal.
It should be immediately given to Linden MacIntyre and the fine journalists at the 5th Estate.
Stevie Cameron could be up for recognition as well.
I've lived long enough to see graft and corruption in private and public dealings. It seems to me that our elected politicians get on the gravy train the day they are elected. Their main objective is to stay in power long enough to bleed the public purse with their questionable morals, accumulated funds acquired through the many lobbyists to further themselves and prepare to augment their generous pensions.
I'm sure there are honest, law abiding, politicians of great integrity out there, I just can't think of any at the moment.
Ian Murray Montreal
— Posted on December 10, 2007 08:53 PM
I know Mr. Schreiber. I have been opposite to him as counsel in a law suit. I have examined him under oath. If Mr. Schreiber tells you the time, check to make sure you still have your watch.
If this story is having a negative impact on voter support for the Harper government, either the media is not describing this matter clearly, or far too many voters do not understand the story. Nothing that Schreiber or Mulroney did is in any way attributable to the Harper government, or Mr. Harper himself.
What is also puzzling is this: given the volume of Schrieber's documents, and the frequency of his recorded statements, there is so much material available that even a law student could have devastated him in a cross examination at the Committee. But it wasn't done. Do the committee members not know how, or do they not care? They can take their pick. Either answer is troublesome.
In his coming testimony in front of the House Ethnics Committee, I suggest that a member ask Brian Mulrony point blank the following question:
" Did you maintain contact with Mr. Schreiber after you ceased being Prime Minister?"
I am sure the Canadian people are very interested to know what he will reply.
Isn?t accepting cash for a business goods or services called tax evasion and isn?t a person who committing it is generally subject to criminal charges and substantial penalties?
Isn?t a major part of government?s income source for all his spending including its employee?s compensation is generated from the same goods and services tax they collect? And if Mr. Mulroney was part of government pay roll list while in office?
Is The highest ranking government official?s accepting cash is a good role model for a just society? And could there be anything else more damaging to the infrastructure (both moral and principal) of this society by this dishonest, evil, immoral, sinful, unethical?
Mashoud
— Posted on December 7, 2007 03:36 PM
Regardless how this 3 ring circus turns out, "lyin Brian" will always be a crook in my eyes. I also expect the $2.1M that "lyin Brian" managed to scam from tax payers dollars, should be recovered from this thief.
It is also a big scam how Mr Schreiber is being treated given the serious nature of this whole affair. Give the man some room to finger the guilty parties, so justice can be done. They can deal with Mr Schreiber's own guilt and issues once the crooked government oficals have all been rounded up and thrown in jail. We owe Mr Schreiber at least that much.
I suspect that the present Harper government are trying to mak ethings as difficult as they can to keep Mr Schreiber from creating too much damage.
Jake
Jake Toronto
— Posted on December 7, 2007 01:26 PM
I think it's disgusting that the Canadian Parliament is allowing itself to be taken for a ride by a con man like Schreiber.
The CBC has become so aligned with the anti-Mulroney forces that it has abandoned journalistic integrity. Schreiber testimony the past two weeks has been a confusing, contradictory farce, yet CBC continues to report him as if he is a credible person. I can hardly wait for their investigation of Shawinigate ...sponsorship...Beaudoin firing... Not likely
Jim Wallace Toronto
— Posted on December 7, 2007 07:44 AM
It seems pretty clear the BM had a big hand in this. I hope the he will be brought to justice and repay the $2.1 million he stole from Canadians. Also he should be brought up on criminal charges for lying under oath. Really who in his position at the time accepts a bag of cash and expects to get away with it?
I think that the boards that he sits on such as Barrick should be swift to kick him off, who wants a crooked politician on their board of directors?
Greg
Greg Toronto
— Posted on December 6, 2007 09:36 PM
Re: "Lyin Brian"
Mulroney, our 18th Prime Minister, has made declaration that are patently untrue. Mulroney is known as "lyin Brian". This man's greed knows no bound. His 1,000 pages "Memoirs" (braggard)does not mention Mr. Karlheinz Schreiber or any dealings he had with him. This has now been proven to be untrue.
Brian Mulroney's knickname "Lyin Brian" fits him perfectly.
History will not be kind to this braggard and now proven liar.
Mulroney has brought The Office Of The Prime Minister into disrepute.
Shame on you Mulroney. You are by far the WORST Prime Minister Canada ever had.
Is it any wonder that Canadians have an extremely low opinion of politicans. No politician can be trusted.
I notice quite a dramatic drop in outraged comments now that Mr Schreiber has given his testimony. All he has done is play his get out jail free card and the taxpayer is on the hook for what has turned out to be a pathetic attempt by oposition to smear the present government with old news. I can't wait for another eloquent comment from Mr Dion.
Dec. 5/07 It looks like the CBC's Fifth Estate/Linden McIntyre and the Globe and mail's Enterprise to try and besmirch the governing Tories with the "NEW,REVEALING, TRUE" facts (innuendos)about Brian Mulroney and Karl Schreiber has backfired - BIG TIME. This only further solidifies the fact that the CBC is a LIBERAL mouthpiece for the Liberal Party. How can a publically funded media present just one point of view?? Watching both Linden McIntyre and Peter Mansbridge squirm on the National while they "discussed" the results of yesterday's (non) revelations and confirmations about Brian Muroney was delicious! The previous night Peter Mansbridge just had to insert that Peter Mackay was employed with a company of Schrieber's holdings in Germany about 15 years ago - RELEVANCE HERE - what was it???? I wouldn't be surprised if after all this the CBC and the Globe and Mail will be fighting some large law suits for defamation of character and slander of malicious intent.
There's nothing new presented here at all; just a rehashing of old facts. It appears some kind of ploy was made to resurrect a hot button issue that would detract the electorate from the fact that the Federal Liberals are slipping out of sight and favour of the electorate - it looks like they just blew themselves up. And now we have to waste all ou tax payers money on a Judicial Inquiry becasue of the Liberals, NDP and Bloc. It's time to scrutinize who makes and presents the "News of the Day" in Canadian politics for CBC.
I was never a fan of Brian Mulroney, but this Schrieber fellow sure seems like a person who should not be granted status as a landed immigrant. It is difficult to believe anything he has said. Why would any politician ever meet with him?
Bob H
— Posted on December 5, 2007 10:02 PM
This CBC 5th Estate report is a liberal-biased story based on the testimony of a convicted fraud artist. Mr. Mulrony had nothing to do with th Airbus deal or any other kick-back deal while he was Prime Minister. These charges were found to be false in the last investigation and will once again being bourne out by the current inquiry, which is costing taxpayers thousands of dollars per day, and could rise to millions of dollars in total.
The only reason Mr Shreiber has brought alleagtions forward is to avoid deportation to Germany, where he should be sent as soon as he has made his case.
Would the CBC in the future please try to focus on real issues based on factual information ? Thank-you.
Rick Calgary
— Posted on December 5, 2007 05:20 PM
The more I hear about Mr. Schreiber, the more convinced that he is actually Santa Claus in disguise. I think it is terrible to be interrogating one of such legendary generosity and at the same time calling into question the recipient of Santa's kindness. I mean as long as no rules have been technically broken, can't we all, in the spirit if Christmas, forgive and forget.
On the other hand it might be that this behavior has become so common that all the well educated legal minds seem to not see anything wrong.
My only hope is that voters remember that there is no Santy Claus and that if it is a well accected practice maybe a real change is needed in whom we elect to our parliament. Glenn A. Gordon, Vancouver
Forget the ethics committee, forget the public inquiry. Lets hope this program and its producers will face the largest lawsuit in Candian history. That will be the best way to "get to the bottom" of this.
Is CBC prepared to save face and apologize to Brian Mulroney? In recent senate commity hearings, I think it would be appropiate.
JBP
Halifax, NS
JBP Halifax
— Posted on December 5, 2007 12:37 PM
Nice work CBC.Truth prevails.Theres no getting away from it.
Ryan Canada
— Posted on December 4, 2007 02:31 AM
I am disgusted how Mr. Schreiber is treated by the justice system, in handcuffs and leg Irons, removing of the belt, humiliating a 73y old man is despicable, just because he is after a Government official and that Government is in Power he is treated that way, I am no Friend of this man and I know he is of a different nature but middle man for government deals with private companies are done on a regular basis in any Country, The US did not drag Mr. Black in leg irons and without a belt to court, what about the Portus hedge fund guy,he is still running around?
shame on Canada, now the laughing stock of Europe.
w.t.grafen
Dear Filthy Estate,
As this story evolves, I have to commend you on being the catalyst to wasting millions of Canadians' tax dollars on a matter that was already properly investigated by the police, who dismissed the activities of Mr. Mulroney. Police you are not, and now you have abetted in turning our parliament into a circus for the world to watch.
Well, the only ridiculous people who believe there is any merit to your story is the opposition and I certainly hope a public inquiry will be held following this fiasco to determine what lead to the shameful waste of tax payers money, the tarnishing of our world image, and possibly how a criminal like Schreiber evaded justice with the help of the opposition. Perhaps they and possibly people affiliated with this show are really the ones on the take from Mr. Schreiber due to the unprecedented support of a known criminal.
It appears as though Mr. Mulroney is only guilty of tax evasion and I'd like to remind you that he eventually reported his earnings to the Revenue Agency. Even Schreiber now says there was nothing illegal about his Mr. Mulroney. Tax evasion!!! Perhaps the Revenue Agency should have a closer look at our former billionaire PM Martin. Paid all his taxes did he...
I'm waiting for your in depth investigation of the Chretien Regime and where all the money went. oh that's right, Mr. Chretien believes only police should investigate such matters.
I hope you are beginning to regret bringing this story to the forefront of urgent government matters because who really needed to deal with such insignificant matters such as health care, the homeless, and the environment.
Once again, shame on you...
Chris Ottawa
— Posted on December 3, 2007 09:55 AM
Stevie Cameron must be laughing her head off and with good reason. I can only hope that the Harper gov doesn't try to protect BM and from the truth coming out. Also ,if BM was so hard up for money where did he get the 3 million dollars to purchase his fancy Westmount mansion ? I may have heard he got it as a gift from the Conservative party but isn't that illegal as well ?
Now I understand why both these men are laughing in this photograph. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Excellent and important work, thank you CBC. However, I think an important aspect of this has been underplayed. As decrepit and amoral as Schreiber, Mulroney, Moores, McKay et. al. are,(and there is no shortage of that ilk in public and business life) we must remember on whose behalf they were working and whose millions they were distributing. The big players and the really guilty parties are the military hardware manufacturers. The likes of Messerschmitt-Bolkow Blohm. Is my history wrong or wasn't it Messerschmitts dropping bombs on England in WW II? What is Harper doing about all this people ask? Oh yeah, revitalizing the Canadian military. And who is defense Minister now? Oh yeah McKay junior. I'm sure manilla envelopes sales are up in Ottawa this year again.
What else are we about to find out...........Sad..Sad
Vincent D Toronto
— Posted on December 2, 2007 12:04 AM
A lot of writers are questioning whether or not Mulroney was directly involved in the Airbus affair. I fail to see where this is relevent as the Criminal Code of Canada makes no reference to the money received being for any kind of a deal with a specific sale or company. Bria Mulroney himself has refered to the receiving of $300,000 from Shrieber being a colossal mistake. That being said, I have included the following section from the Criminal Code of Canada for the information of viewers:
121. (1) Every one commits an offence who
(c) being an official or employee of the government, directly or indirectly demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept from a person who has dealings with the government a commission, reward, advantage or benefit of any kind for themselves or another person, unless they have the consent in writing of the head of the branch of government that employs them or of which they are an official;
I hope this information was of some value to viewers.
Mac Campbell
I remembered the year after Pri-minister B.M.introduced the GST tax. I went to Water-town at the same day and bought Computer books, Polo shirts and cheated at the declaration for total amount i bought under $150 Can Dollars. I end up paying a fine at 25% tax on goods I brough back to Canada.
Way to go MR. Brian and congratulation for bringing back $100,000 Can Dollars without paying any tax. Perhaps you should write a book: "How to lie and cheat". I think more and more people stay in line to buy that book.
I salute you Mr. Brian. You deserve a top honor medal from our Canadian.
Anonymous Ottawa
— Posted on December 1, 2007 12:37 PM
Voted as Canada's greenest Prime Minister perhaps refers to the ill gotten moola for Mila and Brian.
Great work CBC keep it coming, Canaduh needs you, seems as tho media expose's are the only hope we have of ever hoping to elect an honest government and while you're at it take a hard look at ex PM Jean Corruption and also our other national embarasement, the RCMP.
john
— Posted on December 1, 2007 10:32 AM
What a shame to see the legal system escort Schreiber,handcuffed, into the hearing. Surely they are not for a minute thinking he will make an escape attempt. Afterall they are equipped with "Tasers ". Lets hope that they extend the same treatment to b.m. and perhaps for good measure add leg irons.
When a person accepts envelopes stuffed with cash, requiring personal meetings, rather then the normal method of check payment or bank transfer, it has to bring every normal thinking person to conclude something is being hidden. When a Prime Minister or perhaps exPM does this and he is a lawyer to boot, it has to signal to the average Canadian that either we the populace don't have a full appreciation of the word 'honesty' or BM and his crowd have an awful lot to hide.
Its going to be a HOT political winter in Canada, despite the forecast of it being the coldest in 15 years.
Wolf Ontario
— Posted on November 30, 2007 01:23 PM
Has Mulroney paid the proper taxes required with taking 300,000 in cash?
Anonymous
— Posted on November 28, 2007 10:46 PM
excellent investigative work;we need this kind of jouralism in Canada.
in politics your intire life is put on a instant analization. put your own personal life on that level. can a single person living in our country say that this is what i want. If Brian did talk to this person.? What was it he said. Was it personal info.? I personaly question why we as canadians think that we should dwell on this. What in the timing of politics is this.?
Can somebody please tell Mr. Mulroney that THE COWS HAVE COME HOME AND PLEASE PUT YOUR BELLS ON FOR THE INQUIRY!
I was disgusted with some of his comments and his gross breach of trust. He should pay back the millions the government paid him and retract their apology and throw him in jail where he belongs. He is not only the worst ever prime minister in the history of this great country but lowest of the low in the human race. Mila and good ol' Brian owe this country and it's people an apology and I will not be happy until I hear it from the horses mouth.
Why are there not criminal charges against Mulroney for lying under oath? And why is the government not demanding the return of over $2 million dollars in damages after the last investigation?
Any testimony gathered during an inquiry is not admissable in a criminal trial. Of, course Mulrony wants a hearing, as this will undermine any future criminal proceedings.
I judge a person's character by what he has done during his life. In Brian Mulroney's case, one must ask "If he will take money from someone in this case, how many times did this occur while he was our PM" Also, he knew full well what he was doing, and not reporting the income just made the whole situation worse.
Where did Frank Moores (GRHS) come into the story. How much "grease" did he get? Is it not time to ask KS about him as well?
Ian Murray montreal
— Posted on November 25, 2007 01:31 PM
I think the Canadian people should forgive him for his past lapse of memory and have him appointed to the Senate.
Renfrew Ottawa
— Posted on November 25, 2007 06:39 AM
To heck with wheres the beef!
Make it Baloney Brian!
JB Rush
— Posted on November 24, 2007 06:18 PM
Thank-you CBC. Finally we're being treated to some real journalism and indepth reporting. Don't let anyone tell you this story is not of interest to Canadians. This is a Canadian story relevant to our history and it needs to be told.
What does this Mulroney scandal mean for the Harper government? I thought Prime Minister Harper was supposed to be running the new, improved Conservative Party. Why is he so chummy with Mulroney?
kit Ontario
— Posted on November 24, 2007 04:15 PM
When will the Fifth Estate be shining the same flashlight on Shawinigate and what really went on with Jean Chré´©en and BDC? And if you do, how about digging a little deeper than just this fluff....
"Federal ethics counsellor Howard Wilson later ruled it was entirely appropriate for Prime Minister Jean Chré´©en to call BDC on behalf of Duhaime, a Shawinigan constituent."
This is posted on the CBC web site.
Dave Platten Saskatoon
— Posted on November 24, 2007 02:13 AM
If BM wants to salvage anything of his reputation,
it is time for him to come clean and admit his wrongdoings. Any reasonable man can figure out that if your taking $300[K] in CASH then you must be up to something shady.
So wouldn't it be nice to see him be a man and accept responsibility for his actions . Instead of squirming around trying to find a legal loophole.Even if he were to get off, no one is going to believe him he has already told to many half truths.
Then, maybe he could spend his time in a positive way by exposing how corrupt the system is and how Canadians can fight back.
To all Mulroney apologists who seem to want to bury the truth about BM under a pile of slime that is Scheiber, I have a few comments. Karl Schreiber is a sleazeball and nobody will disagree. He will do anything to stay in Canada. Mulroney may also have had nothing to do with Airbus. These facts however, don't change the other facts: that BM took cash from a sleazeball, then lied under oath about his relationship, then transported a large sum of cash across the border without declaring it, then accepting $2.1 M under false pretenses and then finally waited 5 years before declaring the cash as income. To quote Mulroney himself -- "You had a choice!!" and clearly he made a bad one.
Mulroney obviously believes that he did no wrong, but then that may depend on his definition of wrong. The money may actually have been a gift "for future considerations" and we can all accept gifts.
But Mulroney did break the law on at least 2 occasions:
He lied under oath about his relationship with Schreiber.
He did transport a large sum of money across the border with declaring it.
Is conspiring to bury the truth breaking a law? Is asking someone to perjure themselves breaking the law?
Is failing to declare income for almost 5 years breaking the law?
Surely a trained lawyer, and Mulroney is one, would have been aware of these moral and legal peccadillos.
We can also wonder at the official response of the current federal government whose policy seems to be designed around plausible deniability for the PM, especially when they brief him that he hasn't been briefed and then keep records of the non-briefing. Who is looking out for Canadians?
the right honorable lyin brian actually believes he did
nothing wrong. he also believes that he deserves any
money he might have been paid because of the jobs his
government created and all the great things he
did while pm. $300,000.in cash payments is the tip of
the iceburg when it comes to government corruption.the
reform party in power lead by harper really wants to
change the system but cant with mulroney still having
influence in the senate. not all politician are corrupt
but the system has been for years.the only way harper
will get a majority is to expose and distance himself
from the mulroney reputation.
First of all I salute you Mr. Linden Mcintyre for this piece and the others @ the Fifth Estate. Are'nt you threaten by people you tried to expose.
And to you Sir BM, if you have no involvement with Mr. KS, why not sue him for defamation. Maybe you'll get more than 2Million if they settle (no offense).
I feel so sad that politicians who have more pay than the common people can be corrupt. Why don't they just do their best to serve the people and serve them well that voted for them.
Meg Toronto
— Posted on November 22, 2007 11:44 AM
That was a splendid, and I dare say say, shocking tale of corruption and arrogance by the former Canadian Primeminister Brian Mulroney. This story, as told by the fifth estate, will have many ramifications in the months and years ahead: perjury, obstruction of justice, tax evasion,and the penchant of the Canadian establishment and legal system to protect the rich and powerful. Courageously, the fifth estate delved into the facts, without allowing itself to be intimidated! The facts adduced so far are so very compelling. Congratulations CBC!
There is a humourous aspect to this story which you might have missed. Remember how Mulroney boasted to the media a few years back that "life is so good?" Or how the media used to tell us that when Mila Mulroney goes shopping in Montreal, the stores are closed. I think Paul Newman made a reference to this in his book on Mulroney as well. What with a $300,000 cash from the German business friend and another $2 million plus wrenched out of the Canadian treasury in a stampede to settle the Mulroney law suit. That would make any couple to be awash in cash!
As they say, there is no smoke without fire! Finally, the truth is coming to light. But note this: there might be future attempt by the Harper government to protect Brian Mulroney. In such an eventuality, I trust you will continue to follow this intriguing tale to its logical conclusion. Many Canadians, and opposition politicians, will surely cry foul should Prime Minister Stephen Harper try to ship Mulroney nemisis out of the country so quickly, in an attempt to protect his powerful friend. The same would be the case if the R.C.M.P tries to drop the ball.
This is one isolated case. How many other Karlheinz Schreibers are in town and how many other politicians have taken envelopes because they "need the money"?
Is this the way the EEC does business? Perhaps we need to look at other large purchases we have made from European companies to see if there is a money trail.
Stealing from your country is violation or betrayal of the allegiance that a person owes their country and it is treachery and treason.
This is a crime that politicians are more and more guilty of and it's due to the fact that no one gets charged with it (even when it's clearly warranted) that causes a publics faith in politicians to dissipate, the guilty must be jailed instead of being given a golden handshake or a petty fine if this faith is to be restored.
I doubt this will make it past the "moderator." but - Linden Macintyre's nose is as crooked as the story he portrayed on the Canadian Biased Cognition service. Yes there are many questions, but to depict Schrieber as the better guy is as absurd as the continued taxpayer funding of the CBC. Problem is there are so many limp dick Canadian's that do their "research" based upon articles like this travesty of professional reporting that most will believe it as fact.
Gary Powers Alberta
— Posted on November 22, 2007 12:06 AM
I also want our 2 million dollars back from Mulroney, and he should return the $ 300,000.00 as well. I believe there was more money taken than the 300,000.00 I think he sold Canada out for far more dollars than what is reported now.
It is also very clear that the Conservatives have corruption in their party also, and Mr. Harper is involved as Mr. Shrieber had given money to other members of the Conservative Party. We should investigate this to the ninth degree, to get to the truth - not ship to Germany the key witness who can prove the bribes occured. Is this Canada or are we experiencing a George Bush style of government which is lying, cheating, bribes, no bid contracts, and in general a scum ridden government.
Diane Reid Ontario
— Posted on November 21, 2007 10:27 PM
I just love the fact that cbc is the national liberal campaign boat... Am I the only one seeing this? Schrieber is playing our legal system for the pity joke that it is, he has already said that if sent to Germany, he will not cooperate with authorities. He is just trying to protect himself from his own legal troubles. Sure, Brian Mulroney and Karlheinz Schreiber's activities are questionable, but we have been through this, are we going to be any further ahead by beating the same dead dog over and over? Maybe after the end of this one we can pay Mulroney another 2.1 million.
BTW- When is the fifth estate going to give us a story on the sponsership scandel? I am curious as to what some of the finer details are. I know cbc would not do that with the chance of an election coming up, but sometime, please?
Tom Calgary
— Posted on November 19, 2007 11:47 AM
I agree with many posters, as a Canadian I feel cheated and betrayed by Mulroney. If Mulroney had any decency he would return the two million and then slink away and hide in a hole somewhere.
But I am equally troubled by the fact that another former Prime Minister, Jean Cretien, quickly halted the RCMP investigation and then eagerly paid out the 2M. Why? Let's hear the current Liberal Leader explain that one! The Liberals aren't without blame in this matter.
Equally, perghaps more troubling, is the current Prime Minister's open adulation of a crook who accepted money from a lobbyist and then sued the Canadian people for more money. As one who admires and emulates Mulroney, can we expect Prime Minister Harper to sue the Canadian people after he leaves office? And will Dion, as Liberal leader agree to a fat settlement?
Brynny Victoria
— Posted on November 19, 2007 03:26 AM
Thank you CBC and Stevie Cameron for exposing Bluffing Brian and his old pal Corrupting Karl Heinz. My question to the PMO is when are we going to request Brian to return his Order of Canada medal, benefits and pensions he has so far from the Govt of Canada and prosecute him all the way to a prison of his choice. So he can add the missing chapter from 24 Sussex Drive to the Pen. Or are we going to accept the standard set by Brian?
geo mano USA
— Posted on November 18, 2007 12:24 PM
Quick resolution:
1. Mulroney's admission of taking money and returning of the money.
2. A royal pardon and no jail in exchange for him to turn himself as the Crown witness.
3. Do the same with the others in succession.
4. See "prisoner's dilemma" in google.com
Sailing He Vancouver
— Posted on November 18, 2007 04:39 AM
Dear Fifth Estate,
Normally I rather enjoy your pieces but this one is not one of your better works.
Unlike the past shows where you clearly and objectively lay out all the facts on the subject of your piece, you do not properly do so in this case. I am left with too many questions such as:
-What role did Mr. Mulroney have in the Airbus sale? He does not appear to have had any role whatsoever, or at least you never pointed it out.
-As a logical intelligent human being, how can I come to the same conclusions as you? You placed all this credibility on the shoulders of a man wanted for fraud and others serious charges. Seems to me if you are going to lynch a man you should at least find better witnesses than a wanted criminal. Schreiber is desperate not to go to jail and will say anything. Don't you see & know that?
-After watching this show all I can remotely conclude is that a con-man may have himself been duped into handing out money that wasn't his to begin with and maybe he deliberately handed it out because he knew what awaited him in the future and he needed some blackmail material. Who are we to judge what the services of Mr. Mulroney cost and if Schreiber paid out the money for the negligent services then it was up to him to immediately attempt to recoup the money, which he did not immediately do.
-Another thing I concluded after watching the piece in light of the above, the Fifth Estate has a personal ax to grind with Mr.Mulroney.
Stick to the facts and stay out of politics people because you lose credibility and integrity when you write stories like this...
Chris Ottawa
— Posted on November 17, 2007 11:20 PM
There is a universal rule of thumb about things like this: Whenever a politician receives large cash payments, there has been a crime committed, and the cash payment is an attempt to hide that fact.
When a populace accepts this kind of activity by political leaders as part of the "trash and trivia of politics", they accept that their democratic system is broken, and they deserve the corruption that they live under.
The self serving term, "Right Honourable" has no meaning within such a system.
The Harper government's excuse for failing to act to re-examine this case is the lamest apology for the rot in our parliament that I have ever heard.
Thanks to "The Fifth Estate" for once again living up to their name.
... I want our 2.5 million dollars back with interest ! Shame Shame !
If this goes unpunished it just go to show what is wrong with this country.
Pete Vancouver
— Posted on November 6, 2007 06:14 AM
I'm a little curious about how it is that Fifth Estate hasn't reported on the legal wrangle that occurred this last summer with KS suing BM to get his $300,000 "legal fee retainer" back after so many years.
Dan Vancouver
— Posted on November 6, 2007 12:31 AM
If the current government think they can use their power to prevent Mulroney from being investigated, they are wrong. If you did something bad, it will sooner or later come back to you. If you don't want anyone to know that you did it, you better not do it in the first place.
ChrisC Oshawa
— Posted on November 5, 2007 07:17 PM
Most political astute Canadians already knew there were kickbacks and bank accounts for the "greasers" who lobbied for the Airbus purchases by Air Canada.
The critical question that needs to be asked is:
Who ordered the RCMP investigation halted? Was there pressure brought to bear on the RCMP? If so, by whom?
Why was Allen Rock so quick to apologize to Brian Mulroney?
Canadians should demand answers from the politicians and the back room spin doctors.
David Quebec
— Posted on November 5, 2007 07:09 PM
What a bunch of Baloney urh I me Mulroney. This guy is a slippery as an eel. He takes 2.1 million of our tax money even though he actually now confesses to Revenue Canada that he did indeed take 300k worth of cash from Kalrheinz. But, he doesn't have the hutspa to talk to the fifth estate and Canadians, admit he did something sleazy and probably illegal and pay restitution. Maybe he could promise Canadians all the royalties from his book that we are buying (NOT)!
Pete Belleville
— Posted on November 5, 2007 03:03 PM
My thoughts as a viewer are:
How can Brian Mulroney get away with this, just because of his previous high political position?
Why protect Brian Mulroney? Is he not a Canadian citizen subject to Canadian laws, why can't he be prosecuted like any other Canadian citizen?...
Brian Toronto
— Posted on November 5, 2007 10:52 AM
I can't help but feel that all of these Mulroney supporters are on his payroll (to the dying end)and I feel sorry for them . It has never been political. Brian Mulroney was,is, just plain greedy. Just because an individual wins a title (PM) in an election, doesn't mean that he is honest. Sometime it just makes them the best liar.
David G
— Posted on November 5, 2007 05:05 AM
Try as I might, I am not getting a clear idea of why Schreiber is saying what he is now saying about Mulroney. Especially since it is such a turnaround from the former relationship he now describes, can people comment about his motives vis-a-vis Mulroney?
stevebc
— Posted on November 5, 2007 03:43 AM
Iain Brown's Nov.1 letter accuses the Fifth Estate producers of colluding with Mr. Schreiber. Personally, Iain, I commend them for giving Karlheinz a chance to come clean; he needs our help! Sure, he was an international "Fixer" for many prominent corporations and individuals; Helmut Kohl's and Brian Mulroney's names come to mind. And that is why Germany and Canada's Tories naturally want him silenced forever - a lengthy jail term would solve the problem at his age. Let's reward Karlheinz for his openness, and let him stay, or send him to Switzerland. If the Tories deliver him to Germany,it sends a message to Canada: " Mulroney Lied "
Thanks, Karlheinz , Ingrid Kern
ingrid kern Toronto
— Posted on November 5, 2007 01:58 AM
Good work Fifth Estate. People like Mulroney believe that they can do and get away with anything. It looks like Mulroney owes Canadians an apology plus 2 million dollars.
How can Brian Mulroney get away with this, just because of his previous high political position?
Why protect Brian Mulroney? Is he not a Canadian citizen subject to Canadian laws, why can't he be prosecuted like any other Canadian citizen?...
Devin M. Toronto
— Posted on November 4, 2007 08:35 PM
After the book , I was willing to give Mr.Mulroney the benefit of the doubt but no longer. Behind the trusting public,s back he is obviously laughing at the naivety of our political system.
There should be a public inquiry, we had one when civil servants were caught, he was a Prime Minister.
A public inquiry must be held and Mr.Schreiber should be kept in Canada as a witness.
How sad! We continue to allow our politicians to rub our noses in it! Airbus has turned out great products, and shouldn't have needed to use these crooks to sell them. While working in the aircraft industry I heard rumors of kickbacks and bribes, but didn't have enough information to know if the rumors were true. Following the Timeline removes any doubt about how, when, and why Canadian taxpayers were cheated by the very people we depended on. Did they really need the money?
Isn't the power of foreign kick-backs amazing. I sure hope that this issue ends up somewhere else, namely, in the justice system. In view of all that's been brought to light over the years, Steven Harper's government is compelled to reopen the investigation into this affair.
If anyone should be sueing anyone it should be Joe Clark suing Brian Mulrooney. After all Mulrooney did, underhandly, deprive Clark of running in another election and possibly becoming Prime Minister for another term. Clark was a man of far greater integrity than Mulrooney.
God save the CBC and in particular, the Fifth Estate.
While CBC is reporting on the Lottery Corp and Mulroney's questionable behaviour, the rest of the great Canadian news machine is engaged in their daily public snogging with the politicians.
Do Canadians believe all politicians are sleaze balls? Look at the dwindling numbers who turn out to vote. Most people can no longer bring ourselves to vote for the lesser of two evils. We deserve better than that.
Ian Shaw Ottawa
— Posted on November 4, 2007 07:59 AM
A fantastic documentary as usual from the 5th Estate. This demands action and a public inquiry as well as criminal charges against Brian as well as the others involves in the fat.
Apart from Mulroney with so many of current Harper?s officials and his predecessors in conservative party tied to this serious scandal it is no wonder why he yesterday dismissed a call for public inquiry by opposition parties. Pubic trust on administration is in line with this call for inquiry. It is now even more a vital judiciary/civilian duty in front of Canadians to pursue and demand for this inquiry.
Thank you CBC and Fifth State for your true journalism.
You've done a great job on this subject. For the sake of the country, please continue to keep the public up to date on this issue.
Carl Screiber should not leave Canada until we have a public inquiry. If Steven Harper refuses to launch a public inquiry and protect Mulroney he will taint his own party in the upcoming election.
The Department of Justice and the RCMP must do their jobs and reopen this case.
I suspect the $300,000 is just part of a much larger story. The government pay out to Mulroney must be returned to the Canadian people and then ship him of to the U.S.
Kate toronto
— Posted on November 3, 2007 04:09 PM
If the Canadian people don't get the 2 million plus back from Mr. Mulroney, we are all "FOOLS" in this shameful episode of a Canadian politician "SCREWING" us all. Who cares that he was the prime minister--that just makes it worse, doesn't it!? Just think of it... some Canadain hospital would love to get the cash and use it to save the lives of honest Canadians. Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee! Somebody do something about this, PLEASE!
The fifth estate proved nothing as usual. If there is evidence of guilt on the part of Mr.Mulroney they should have shown it. Instead they are relying on the word of one man who is trying to save his own skin. Brian Mulroney does not need $300,000. There was not one shred of evidence put forth by the fifth estate. The left wing dummies in this country believe anything and everything as long as it involves a conspiracy.
darryl
— Posted on November 3, 2007 11:58 AM
It is most unfortunate that we had to wait for such a long time to hear more of the dealings between our former prime Minister and Mr Schreiber. There is no doubt in my mind that Lian Brian has something to hide. It worked well for him as long as he initiated a court proceeding and more or less by calling a bluff. To bad that the investigation was stopped and 2.1 Millonen were paid to someone who after all lied under oath. I'm not saying Mr. Schreiber is not a shady caracter,but it takes to to tango. If I were Mr.Dion now I would make it a election promise to fully investigate everything in that matter,he might just end up with a minority goverment, after all it worked for the conservatives in the sponsorship scandal in Quebec.
Glad to see we may finally nab the man who sold Canadas Sovereignty to the Internationalists in the U.S. Twenty years later and we can see the marvelous fruits of his labour as nearly every natural resource is owned and operated by the Internationalist Elites, while guided by Globalist Centralized Bankers.... Geez, you would almost think I just described America.
William Nelson
— Posted on November 2, 2007 11:54 PM
The Fifth Estate failed to focus on the reasons why all of the sudden Schreiber is providing all this information now and how CBC obtained the paper trail now. Is this Schreiber unearthing a pretext to remain in Canada, so that rather than stewing in a German prison he can be useful to the Canadian justice system for finally revealing all he knows about all the tainted deals he was involved with in Canada - something which should have happened long ago?
Well, if that's the motivation, he should remain under tight control right here in Canada until an independent judicial enquiry has extracted from him every last piece of information he knows about every Canadian contract he facilitated with "grease money" or other favours. His evidence needs to be carefully verified for authenticity, to satisfy Canada whether or not there is substance to any of his allegations. Unless this is done we may never know the scope, quantum and extent of tainted transactions that may have really occured here. A hasty extradition under present circumstances will look more like a cover-up than an act of compliance with international agreements.
Mark Toronto
— Posted on November 2, 2007 07:37 PM
It is time for Harper to reopen an investigation if truth and justice means anything to him and his party!Thank you CBC
Where were Linden MacIntyre and the Fifth Estate during Adscam? I guess MacIntyre had blinders on and his head under a pillow. If he remembers back that far perhaps he could do another expose on a gang of Liberal hacks and "follow the money" into the coffers of the Liberal party of Canada. The heavy lifting has already been done for him by the Gomery Inquiry. There is up to forty milion dollars in question in that boondoggle so surely, if he has the interest of Canadians at heart, it would present a much more spectacular revelation than Mulroney's mere pittance of three hundred thousand dollars of private, not government, money. If he decides to reject this opportunity perhaps he should give us the excxuse that he is blind in his left eye.
R M Wood
Anonymous
— Posted on November 2, 2007 05:36 PM
Lynden McIntyre took the bait....hook line and sinker as they say in Cape Breton. A confessed liar, Karlheinz Schreiber, spins the big one on the prospect of being further detained in Canada and not deported to Germany and to prison....it's incredible that the CBC would be so gullible....and so desperate for a sensational story !!!
This relentless and unwarranted propaganda and smearing of the integrity of Mr Mulroney and Conservative political supporters has to end and end right away.
That senior management of the CBC continues to stoop to such yellow journalism is further evidence of the steep slide into irrevalence and disrepute the CBC has already fallen.
Shame on McIntyre and shame on the CBC.
Gerry Mahar Toronto
— Posted on November 2, 2007 03:45 PM
That 2+ million given to mulroney should be given back to the canadians and then billed to Progressive Conservative card holders., kinda like rats in a snake pit. Then call that election.
mean gene manitoba
— Posted on November 2, 2007 02:03 PM
Brian Mulroney did not "Steal" $2 million from the taxpayers of Canada. The Jean Chretien Liberals decided to pay him, legitematly, as a result of litigation Mr. Mulroney brought against the Government. If there was any fault in that transaction it would be that of Mr. Chretien, not Brian Mulroney. If Chretien is dumb enough to pay me $2 million after I file a lawsuit against the Government, I'm going to take it also.
Further, if Mr. Mulroney approached a lawyer and through his lawyer he settled accounts with CCRA then that is his business. All this after he was out of office. The question we need answered is, "Did Brian Mulroney, as Prime Minister, influence Air Canada in the purchase of AirBus aircraft?" If so, "Was he paid a commission for that influence?" PERIOD.
What Mr. Mulroney does and how he earns a living after he has left office is not the business of Jack Layton, Stephan Dion or anyone for that matter.
Given all we are hearing I would suggest that the Government not hand Karlheinze Schreiber over to the Germans, ever.
One addition: do you really think it is proper for governments to be ordering inquiries? Isn't this the place of an impartial judiciary? If there is evidence, let's have a trial. Forget the political stage-craft; enough of that with these sort of programs already.
Brett
— Posted on November 2, 2007 02:57 AM
I have a problem with these sort of "expos鳦quot; - from a man who states that his main concern is to stay out of jail in Germany. At 28:50 states that Mulroney probably had nothing to do with the actual Airbus purchase. How does he know? Is he dealing primarily in innuendo?
It's not that I trust Mulroney or subsequent governments - although it is amusing to see the opposition try to pin this on the present government in some way. Influence peddling happens - lots. Whether it crosses the line ought to be up to voters to decide, through lobbyist registration; and in worst cases, up to the courts.
For my money, just as much influence gets peddled at the courts and within the RCMP - as to what gets investigated and how and when. This is changing, perhaps - certainly the Liberals and Commissioner Zaccardeli did little to increase our confidence. One wonders just why Allan Rock was so quick to apologize when he did?
I hope the present government is clean - they claim they are. The NDP is probably clean, because they have never had any power to peddle. In essence, Mulroney was already tried, and the prosecution failed to prove its case. They should not have tried without such evidence as now seems to have surfaced. What were they going on? A fishing expedition?
I hope all present politicians are taking a good lesson from this.
It appears from your report that the Mulroney era was an ethical vacume in Canadain politics; this report now confirms the sad legacy we always presumed. Is it any wonder he single-handedly took the party of John A. MacDonald to the brink of extinction. Everything that was and is wrong with politics and politicians has been proved once again; and regretably, with the present government's position on this revalation, the cover-up looks like it will continue.
Public service; PLEASE..."self service" is the underpinning of these egotists. We seem to hold school children to higher ethical standards than those that aspire to, and hold, the highest offices in this country. This type of reprehensible behaviour undermines the faith of the electorate in those in government.
I think this should be pursued to the utmost of authority. I can't believe we gave this con-job a medal, and I am saddend that our justice system awarded him 2.1 million of our tax money. I would love to see a warrant on his head for crimes against Canada. He always thought of nothing but his own gain and left the Canadians to pay the bill. If nothing else, this should be enough to scrutinize by microscope his entire term. If he seemed dishonest, he probably was, and if there is one instance, there's probably more. I encourage the fifth estate to keep digging on behalf of truth.
Jonny D Winnipeg
— Posted on November 1, 2007 11:51 PM
The Harper Government's "get tough on crime rant" is really about getting tough on anyone that opposes their rule or ideology. As for Brian Mulroney, he is sitting arm in arm with Stephen Harper while advising him on whom to target for arrest and mandatory sentences. The criminals really are writing the laws and Brian Mulroney is enjoying impunity by association with Stephen Harper.
Where is Stephen Harper's "Conservative accountability" now?
Tania Victoria
— Posted on November 1, 2007 06:54 PM
Interesting article, but a little after the fact. How many people, incuding investigative journalists, knew about this at the time it was taking place. In fact many of us already knew knew about most of this in the form of smoke from a smouldering fire. It is also interesing to note how powerful foreign kick-backs are in this country. Even if there is enough evidence, be it circumstantial, well substantiated and/or corrorborated, the chances of the matter being brought before the courts is next to nil.
I would like to see The Fifth Estate bring something to light sometime when it is current It seems that when a matter like this is exposed, it is always when the political regime involved is no longer in power and the matter has been obscured by time and other factors. In this case there is definately a lot of smoke and we all know that smoke is a by-product of combustion.
Mac Campbell
Port Hawkesbury, NS
There is a saying making the rounds that says: Those on the right side of the political spectrum simply believe that those on the left are wrong while those on the left believe that those on the right are not only wrong but evil. Based on that belief many of them condone any and all actions, even those that are dishonourable, unethical and not based on facts or the law, to attack those on the right. If Linden MacIntyre is so convinced his findings are factually based, and if he believes in law and the administration of justice, why does he not launch a lawsuit against Brian Mulroney? I suspect it is a hate of the political right that impelled him to use funds from his taxpayer supported employer, the CBC, to pursue Brian Mulroney rather than accept the Liberal initiated inquiry which found Mulroney innocent of all wrong doing in this case.
Bob Wood
— Posted on November 1, 2007 03:19 PM
I remember, right in the middle of the liberal sponsership scandal, I was teaching French to a high placed civil servant who was around in the Mulroney years. He often told me that what the liberals were accused of "was really nothing compared to what (he) saw happening during the Mulroney era". Rules that were even more lax back then meant that contracts were given out to companies according to orders given by conservative politicians. He said he did not feel protected as a high ranking civil servant, since the politicians were more or less their boses so there was no one to turn to. More of the same, I guess...
Marc P.
Marc P. Gatineau
— Posted on November 1, 2007 03:13 PM
If Brian Mulroney had any dignity at all - he would come clean with his involvement in this affair, take his lumps and do the one thing that will defuse the predicament that this situation places on the Harper government.
Scott Edmonton
— Posted on November 1, 2007 03:06 PM
Excellent program -- though I am completely disheartened by its subject matter. The question now, as I see it, is what can be done? It's incredibly frustrating to see Mulroney simply get away with it. No doubt he will continue to lie and present himself as the poor, put-upon victim. Can not the RCMP reopen the Airbus investigation? At the very least, Mulroney should be charged for lying under oath and suing the government under false pretenses. I would like to believe that tax payers will be reimbursed the $2.1 million and justice will be served -- but I suspect nothing much will happen.
William Toronto
— Posted on November 1, 2007 02:16 PM
I would dearly like to see a public inquiry into this whole affair, but what would be the point? As we've seen in the past only some low level bureaucrat or middleman will take the fall and the real thieves will walk away, leaving the public angry and the lawyers fatter.
What is it with politics? Does it attract a type of person who is easily corruptible or is there something about public service that makes them corrupt? And what is $300,000 to a wealthy man like Mulroney? Is there a pathological need to take every little crumb offered or do the rich just feel that there is never enough money in the bank account?
I would like to see a documentary about what happens in the minds of our elected officials, why they seem to feel they can do anything they want, why they see public office as principally a means to greater power and wealth. I also wonder how many politicians leave public office poorer than when they went in.
The Fifth Estate has made Brian Mulroney their whipping boy for over a decade or more now, and frankly I think that it's time for him to sue your asses off for harassment and here's an idea for a future program; Instead of investigating the relationship between Brian Mulroney and Mr. Schreiber, maybe somebody (other than the Fifth Estate of course) should investigate the relationship between the producers of the Fifth Estate and Mr. Schreiber.
The man is obviously a delusional liar and the CBC and the Fifth Estate continue to belief every word he says?. Have you no couth and BTW - How much graft, gifts or other money have you people paid Mr. Schreiber for all this useless information he's offered you over the years?
Great reporting 5th.I always gave Brian Mulroney the benefit of the doubt in the Airbus affair.Since your revelation of the request to Schrieber to sign an untrue document,the Britan acct,the denials etc.A judicial inquiry is definately in order. Come on Mr.Harper it is time prove our faith in you is well founded.This is my real name,honest.
This was well done. The question is - what will Mulroney's Conservatives in Ottawa do? Why did he not have to pay tax on $300,000.00? Will Mulroney repay the money that was spent on his legal fees by the Government? If nothing is done, then all Canadians should expect the same treatment.
Anonymous
— Posted on November 1, 2007 09:57 AM
The whole Airbus affair does not pass the "sniff" test.
There should be a public inquiry as to who got paid off and for how much. Surely Shreiber's accounting records and bank accounts will show who was paid off and for what amounts. Pelossi can assist the RCMP. Let's not get too preoccupied with a small amount of $300,000 in cash. While important, it is just one of the clues to lead the RCMP to spread the net.
It seems like the Canadian taxpayers are owed much more than the $2.1M they paid out to settle with Mulroney. How was the $20M in commissions paid to Shrieber re-distributed to Canadian politicians? What about Frank Moores...what about Mulroney when he was in power? What about the other political mandarins involved in the Airbus tender award? Surely the RCMP are capable of tracing bank accounts....just follow the money.
This one stinks to the high heavens. Stevie Cameron should receive kudos for her investigative journalism.
It is not clear whether or not Mr. Schreiber is able to implicate Mr.Mulroney, as Prime Minister, having made any influential decisions regarding the actual Purchase of the AirBus aircraft by the Government in any way? Did Mr. Mulroney act as an agent on behalf of Schreiber or Airbus when he was Prime Minister?
I think that accountability has gone out of politics. Had it been a "small man" we would have heard this story and it would have ended because he would be in jail.
The news on Brian Mulroney was not news at all, it is something we have known all along. Brian was perhaps the most dishonest Prime Minister we have ever had and that is why the Canadian people voted him out. Crime, however, does pay when you get to this level of government and he is so lucky, the Conservatives are in power so he will never have to be taken to task.
I am seriously considering undertaking a class-action suit against Brian. He stole $2.3 million+ from all of us in a way that befits the most lowly criminal! Who will join me...I am dead-serious!!! My email address is lpacifica@hotmail.com (Yes, CBC, you may publish it).
Linden MacIntyre exudes integrity, what a wonderful and fitting contrast as we see interviews of confidence man Brian and piggy-at-the- trough Karlheinz Schreiber.
I am deeply insulted by the evident bald faced lies of B.Mulroney and hope with all the hope I can muster, that we Canadians stand up to this charlatan, by forcing the present federal government to see that justice is served. Step up to the plate, Steve Harper!
Great job Linden and crew at the Fifth Estate. Sometimes perseverance has its rewards.
Surely, on Nov. 15th, the judge presiding at Schreiber's extradition hearing will delay consideration of his extradition until such time that a judicial review and any new court cases are completed and closed.
Hopefully the judge is not an ex Tory bag-man or insider.
Don Scott
— Posted on November 1, 2007 01:53 AM
The former P.M.'s crimes of not paying income tax on the $300,00, his perjury at the trial, and the $2.1 Million he got of Canadian taxpayer's money for his legal expenses for that trial add up to "not much respect for Canadian taxpayer money".
Besides that, why the heck is the RCMP not doing it's job? Why did they drop the investigation? Linden MacIntyre and a fifth estate team seem to have found a way to get the evidence...
And of course, the Mulroney government was 'working hard for Canadians' in going to all that work to make sure that Air Canada bought the right airplanes, as if thats their job - what a sad commentary for Canadians!!
Anonymous
— Posted on November 1, 2007 01:51 AM
It appears that Brian Mulroney owes the Canadian taxpayer 2.1 million dollars with back interest! If the Conservative government refuses to establish a judicial inquiry on this issue they will betray their touted dedication to honesty in politics. Congratulations to the CBC for their tenacity in continuing to raise this issue to Canadians.
It is sad that a great statesman is alleged to have sullied his own reputation in the reported fashion. If true, it looks to me like powerful people would like to kill a few birds with a single stone. First, to protect the prestige of the PMO from the scent of scandal. Second, to protect the Government and its agency (RCMP) from the embarassment of having been cowed by Mr. Mulroney in what was tantamount to a game of high-stakes poker. Third, to prevent Mr. Schreiber from releasing documentation that would utterly and finally destroy Mr. Mulroney's legacy as an honorable man. What a waste of greatness. If true, Canada should mourn.
G French Cranbrook
— Posted on November 1, 2007 01:12 AM
If the link with the name "Brian" and the bank account "Britan" is not made, Brian Mulroney lives on as an innocent victim in a dirty politics campaign on the Liberals' part while the latter were in power. You were so close Brian!
The irony is so thick you would believe it a Greek tragedy. Just as the tragic hero finishes to paint his own image of the legacy he so dearly wants the world to believe he is leaving, one single event smashes it and speaks more volumes about the man than his massive book.
Congratulations to the 5th estate!
Excellent reporting.
It's time that the Justice Dept & RCMP reopen the case against Brian...but it probably won't happen with a Conservative government.
I won't be surprised if Mulrony doesn't now sue CBC/5th Estate.
It seems the hatred by the left is so complete towards the Conservative Party in Canada, that it is willing to take the unsubstantiated word of a Criminal wanted in three countries as factual evidence.
When the high point of CBC journalism is at the same level as the National Enquirer, it seems that the time has come to remove the taxpayers' feedbag from the CBC's mouth and let them compete with real journalists.
Thank you the fifth estate, The Globe and Mail for
bring in out the truth! Truth is a Canadian identity
and trade mark and should never been compromised!
Reading the Globe and watching The Fifth, it just made
me so sick and losing a hope on our legal system
In a nut shell, I am sick of being lead by this crook and broad day liar and thief named Brian Mulroney. Rather than telling the truth and apologizing to the public, Brian Mulroney is undermining our legal system and the intellect of majority humble Canadians.
His latest maneuver of claiming the voluntary tax and trying to get the affidavit from the German lobbyist is to avoid a future tax invasion crime, in case an anticipated traces of the bribe money some how resurfaced.
It would have been great if this disgraceful human being
goes to jail for his crimes and lying under oath. However, with his close connections and the PC government in power, it might not be that easy assignment.
Thanks to CBC and the Globe and Mail (Free Press), the jury is out and most Canadians know by now how crock this fella is. I will never call him a former PM of
Canada. He is the former Prime Minister of Crooks, Thieves and Liars.
PM of CTL, SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU!
Thank you,
Paul Peterson
An outstanding piece of investigative reporting.
Proves that our public broadcaster and media outlet, the CBC, is the only Canadian media source for true, valuable and revealing investigative journalism.
It is, however, unfortunate that these revelations have taken 15 years to uncover.
Mulroney's present relationship and role within Harper's current Conservative government is extremely troubling.
FASCINATING, ESPECIALLY WHEN BRIAN VOLUNTARILY CONFESSED TO UNREPORTED INCOME AND HIS CLOSE DEALING WITH HARPER ( ADVICE UNDERCOVER). HE STILL NEEDS HEAD OF STATE TO LEGALLY "PROTECT' HIM- NO PUBLIC ENQUIRY ETC.
Anonymous
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:56 PM
kudos to the cbc for an extremely well-done story - it is unfortunate that we do not hold politicians to higher moral standards about telling the truth when they take office???/-- i want my 2.1 million dollars in tax money refunded!!!
- the arrogance and contempt that the high ranking politicians in Ottawa display to the tax payers of this country is appalling but nobody seems to care.
richard
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:53 PM
OK, then - Don't stop now, Mr. MacIntyre!
Perhaps Mr. M. might want to consider using a portion of the proceeds of his book to pay back the publicly funded court and public relations costs awarded him by the unnecessarily apologetic Mr. Rock.
Anxious to hear what Mr. Harper has to say about all this.
-thnx for enlightening us, Sandy and the Fifth Estate!
Raj W London
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:37 PM
How approriate of the CBC to air this biased piece of documentary aimed clearly at conservatives. So far, the Fifth Estate has done two pieces of biased documentaries aimed at Mulroney and Schrieber (the money echange between these two were private and had nothing to do with ordinary Canadians) and none on the Sponsorship Scandal, which saw hundreds of millions of Canadian tax dollars misspent in the province of Quebec by the Liberals. The liberal biased of the CBC never fails to amaze me.
If the current Conservative government wont open an inquiry, can't provincial or other jurisdictional bodies look at the case because monies were exchanged in Montreal and New York?
Can the RCMP independently pursue this?
Bill Montreal
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:18 PM
There should be a judicial in quiry to get to the bottom of this whole matter. However, that will never happen while Stephen Harper and the Conservatives are in power and would not want to tarnish the image of their buddy Brian.
That a prime minister would be personally involved in such a sordid affair is much worse than the whole sponsorship fiasco.
T Singh Toronto
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:08 PM
Wow, assuming he was truthful, it looks like Mulroney is the thief we always suspected. Especially since he glosses over Moores in the book shows he's trying to hide something.
The RCMP should open the case and detain this fellow as a material witness...
Bill Montreal
— Posted on October 31, 2007 10:01 PM
Will the Conservative government be trusted after this bombshell? How can they? The show is fascinating and Mr. Mulroney is going down I am afraid if this is true.
Michael Victoria
— Posted on October 31, 2007 09:30 PM
I think that this kind of team report is a good sign that we, as Canadian citizens proudly attached to our most important democratic values, can still expect from the media a good investigation - once in a while - about the various ways every government (even the most efficient) can be easily corrupted by corporate interests.
But the problem with that kind of "revelation" is simple. People will watch it "ad mare usque ad mare" and get the unwanted impression that politic in general is "bad", pursued by pathological liars and untouchable individuals that will benifit from their political retirement instead of being put in jail, under arrest or simply asked to answer some delicate questions about their probity when they were supposed to represent the Canadian population instead of their own private interest.
I sincerly hope that we can "look" at this kind of documentary and still believe in our good Constitution and great democratic system... but I doubt it seriously.