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To Bob Coad. You can continue on and be branded as "Road Rage Bob Coad", the face of the problem, or "Road Control Bob Coad", the face of a solution. The stakes are high Bob!
Philip
— Posted on February 26, 2008 07:35 AM
driving with my wife and 2 kids on the 401 close to Guelph a while back I can't help but wonder if it was bob the clown i encountered, it certainly fit his M.O.
While i was concentrating on a motorcycle speeding and weaving through traffic i wasn't aware of a car right on my rear bumper. As i didnt get out of it's way quickly enough he veered into the other lane ,sped past me ,cut into my lane and slanmmed on his brakes.
luckily i didn't lose control and my precious cargo was only scared and not injured or worse.
dave
— Posted on February 25, 2008 05:04 PM
I'm familiar with bad drivers. As an Edmonton-Calgary commuter I have witnessed my share of stupidity, but Mr. Coads' driving is far worse than anything I've ever seen. Anyone who feels that it is acceptable to drive a clapped out Chev Lumina at high speeds on busy freeways while deliberately trying to cause accidents and instigate confrontations is just stupid, end of story. Someone who has such little regard for his own familys' safety, obviously has even less regard for the general publics. Here's a prime candidate for the OPP to make an example of.
Chris
— Posted on February 25, 2008 02:48 PM
I moved from Utah to Manitoba. I would just *love* to see a character like Coad try some of those stunts on I-15 or The Loop in Salt Lake City.
Oh, Coad's a Big Man, gonna follow that car and beat up that driver, cuz her got in my way. Sure, try that anywhere in Utah, Big Man. I guarantee somebody will pull out a Glock 22 and blow your brains out
I cannot believe how monchalant traffic enforcement is here in Canada! Coad was going 60-80 km/h over the posted limit, that's like 50 MPH over the posted limit. In Utah, the highway patrol would stop-stick a car going that fast
jay Winnipeg
— Posted on February 25, 2008 02:19 PM
I think everyone has the potential to have road rage like the series last night said. But in places like toronto, where you are stuck in traffic for at least 20mn because someone ran out of gas, and a lot of people being nosey to slow down and see what's going on, aggrivates others who need to get somewhere at a certain time.
A lot of people forget the rules of the road or are just plain lazy to put their turn signal on. And also, people in expensive vehicles or larger vehicles like vans or SUV's, some how feel like they have a certain priviledge and they dont need to put their signal on while changing lanes etc.. some people just don't know any better, and people who do know how to drive, get annoyed because there are rules for a reason. To keep some sanity on our roads. (Although i think some speed limits on certain roads are ridiculous).
Gina
— Posted on February 25, 2008 01:00 PM
Road speed is a major factor in road collisions and fatalities in Canada, particularly in areas where vehicles and more vulnerable road users mix. In Ontario alone, approximately 800 people are killed in motor vehicle collisions every year, and over 70,000 sustain injury. About thirty to forty percent of these are attributed to speeding, and the majority occur during daylight hours, and on dry pavement.
The problem is not isolated to our highways and major roadways: it's also occurring on minor arterial roads and neighbourhood streets. The source of the problem is not just the Bob Coads of the world, it is anyone that consciously ignores posted limits (which are just that: legal limits, mot merely guidelines)
In addition to injuries, fatalities, and property damage, speeding adversely affects the quality of life in our communities: Traffic noise, emissions (greenhouse gases), vibration, low rates of walking, cycling and transit use, poorer social cohesion due to street environments that discourage neighbours from engaging each other, are just a few examples. The gradual 'vehicularization' of streets has meant that people on foot or bike no longer feel welcome on them.
The failure of legislators to address this prevalent and growing problem can only be described as irresponsible. The impact of speeding (be it 'just' 10 or 15 KMh over posted limits) are too great and too many to tolerate: from the scars they leave on victims, their families and communities, to health care costs of an already overburdened health care system, to environmental costs (up to 40% increase in GHGs).
The posted speed meet every need.
Additional Facts
Speeding and aggressive driving in city traffic saves very little time but greatly increases fuel consumption and emissions. It is also hard on the engine and brakes. Tests show that aggressive driving - "jackrabbit" starts from traffic lights and hard braking � reduced travel time by only 4% (the equivalent of 2 minutes out of a 60 minute trip). However, fuel consumption increased by as much 37%, and some toxic emissions increase more than five times. (Source: Natural Resources Canada)
At 40 KMh a driver can brake soon enough to avoid hitting a person 150 feet ahead. At 60 KMh, the driver cannot stop in time and will hit the person at approximately 48 KMh, likely resulting in death.
The noise generated by a vehicle at 55 KMh is DOUBLE the noise generated at 40 KMh.
Daniel Ottawa
— Posted on February 25, 2008 08:04 AM
Bob is an extreme example of what is happening far too often on our roads. It is not acceptable. Use camera's and suspend their licence on the spot. Enough is enough.
I think Bob's just doing what feels good for him. And why not? He can continue to threaten the lives of everyone one the road as long as he pays his fines. And there's gotta be thousands of Bobs across Canada...all timebombs speeding down the road towards that inevitable tragedy with you or your family & friends.
People like bob really make me realize that owning a drivers license doesn't really mean a heck of a lot.
Scott Alberta
— Posted on February 25, 2008 02:24 AM
Just saw your show on road rage, and am pretty aggravated. That guy Bob really, really pissed me off. I would love to meet him face to face sometime. Yes, there are a lot of incompetent people on the road, but you need to have patience when dealing with crowded situations.
His extreme arrogance is the trigger to most incidents, and he will inevitably eventually find this out the hard way. Hopefully he'll only kill himself when it happens, and not take out other people at the same time. His actions and comments are so blatant and incriminating that I can't believe the police won't throw him in jail, based on the evidence in the video.
A friend of ours lost her daughter to a guy like Bob, who was trying to "teach somebody a lesson". Many people's lives will never be the same. Bob is, quite simply, a murderer who hasn't yet commited murder, but is looking for the right moment, person and excuse to do so. I sincerly hope somebody deals with him "appropriately". If I was in the same town, I'd definitely be on the lookout for him....
John Calgary
— Posted on February 25, 2008 02:01 AM
I think I have a Awnser For what Could be Done to Stop the Speeding Drivers. Now as you all know that many are to agressive and Drive way to fast.
I feel that a Manditory Govener Should Be put in place , on Peoples Existing Cars/Trucks , and that New Autos Have That Option as well.
A Govenor that Restrictes Speed , Say So that the Auto Can Not Exceed 110km per hour , As in Ontario Canada Who Needs To be going faster Anyway , as the Max Speed Limit is 100Km Per hour , at least this way the extra 10km per hour would allow for passing exc..
I feel that this would cut the Accadents on our roads by 50%.
Also For Winter Mounths , I feel that On our Hwy`s , say from December 10 th to march 1 , that our speed limites decrease to only 80 Km`s per hour , as our roads are bad in the winter , as many people are not carefull , and do not drive accourding to the conditions of the road.
By Doing this The police Would catch more agressive drivers , and the agressive drivers would slow down some , they may go to the old limit of 100 km per hour , as they would not wana go 130km per hour as they could loose there car with the New Law in effect.
All of this Above I believe would Solve Many of our Problems on the roads and make it safer for us all.
Cheers
Chris
Chris
— Posted on February 25, 2008 12:19 AM
Could you let us know on one of your programs what has happened to Bob Coad.Has he lost his insurance ,drivers license or life?And if not ,why not?
MODERATOR: According to Bob, he's still on the road.
Don Kelowna.B.C
— Posted on February 23, 2008 02:25 PM
bob - what is he trying to prove? he has to win? what does this clown do for a living? do other aspects of his life not challenge him? why is he so bitter? why is he so insecure?
it takes a "real" man to be aggressive when everyone else is defensive. he wouldnt dare to be so aggressive if everyone else was aggressive.
I am troubled that in not only Canada, but North America as a whole driving is not treated as a skill, it is accepted as daily practice akin to getting dressed or brushing teeth. North American governments need to take serious responsibility for behaviors, such as these demonstrated in the program, that arise. Driver training in Canada involves learning how to pass a test, not how to safely and effectively conduct a vehicle in a high-speed, liquid environment.
Look back on your own personal driver training. How many car control lessons did you receive? Probably a verbal, "Turn into the slide," with no demonstration or practice. What about locking brakes, understeer, four-wheel drifts, weight-transfer, throttle control? All of the things that must be evaluated and revealuated millions of times a second to keep a vehicle firmly in control. How many times were any of these things mentioned? Or demonstrated? None. And that is a serious issue.
Look back again and try to recall how many lessons you received on proper highway etiquette or vehicular communication. Outside of the standard four-way stop lesson there was probably nothing mentioned whatsoever about highway etiquette, spacing, or using the array of lights available, your horn or hand signals to communicate effectively with other motorists. This is also a serious issue.
What about all of our bad habits? Our poor/lazy hand and seating position, our disregard for mirrors and other viewing devices, our willful ignorance of situational awareness, our use of mobile devices, reading, eating. The list is long and amounts to one thing, a lack of respect for the fact that at any moment you could be called on for decisive action that may place yours and your family's lives at stake.
Driving is a skill. It needs to be trained correctly and honed. We put more emphasis on correct skating and puck handling technique in this country than we do on safely and effectively getting ourselves and our families to the rink. We are an entire NATION of bad drivers and part of the solution needs to be a serious re-evaluation of how we train our young drivers and looking for creative solutions to ridding our current drivers of bad habits.
Mal.
Mal Toronto
— Posted on February 23, 2008 02:08 AM
I hope Sgt.Wooley et al target Big Bad Bob.
He doesn't deserve to drive and the people of Ontario should be outraged that he is on the provincial highways potentially threatening the safety of their families and co-workers.
David Brampton
— Posted on February 22, 2008 10:55 PM
Public Transit in this town is not very good. People will stop using their cars so much if our neighborhoods aren't surrounded by highways and the buses don't take 30 minutes to arrive in certain parts of town. If the authorities want this road rage situation to improve, then maybe someone should start improving the way we get around. The City should stop building more highways and put more emphasis on public transit etc.
A. Jensen calgary
— Posted on February 22, 2008 10:55 PM
I live in Saskatchewan and this is the place where you have THE dumbest drivers ever. In Saskatoon, on Circle drive freeway, there are signs that say "60 km/hr" yet ROB sees it everyday and still thinks that the only reason for the sign is to remind him that if he drives for an hour he'd travel 60 kms on a freeway that has 2 lanes (oh! now I get it, you think that at that speed with 3 lanes it'll take you less to travel the same 60 kms hmmm very smart). And then there are people like ROB.
One more thing.
BOB, I don't think you are arrogant. why would you think that? I think you are plain STUPID.
Pierre Toronto
— Posted on February 22, 2008 07:48 PM
I watched your piece on road rage and was shocked & horrified on so many different levels.
Bob Coad and all like him are hugely dangerous to society. While I detest his smug flouting of the laws set up to protect us all and fear his obviously out of control anger, its the calm acceptance of both of these by all around him (including the police & the legal system) that really disturbs me! How can this man regularly drive at almost twice the speed limit and still have his license!!
How can his wife allow the children to not only see this as normal behavior (which they will be copying in a few years, mark my words) but allow her children to ride in a vehicle traveling at almost twice the speed deemed safe.
How can the police simply shrug and bemoan the legal system that allows the dangerous Mr. Coad to talk his way out of his tickets.
Would they adopt the same attitude with a trained marksman who regularly & routinely exorcised his aggression by taking pot-shots at all who annoyed him, using the smug defense that his demonstrated ability to shoot rendered this behavior acceptable.
If Bob Coad behaved this way with a loaded gun, he would be behind bars quicker than two shakes of a lamb's tail. He should be barred from driving for life.
He probably doesn't have the guts to try his shenanigans on a bicycle.
Jim Victoria
— Posted on February 22, 2008 03:34 AM
As infuriating as this episode was, what really got me going is he drives this way with his family in the vehicle.
At the very least, his attitude toward the law and other drivers is a disgusting example for his children. At the worst, he is clearly demonstrating a complete disregard for the safety of his family. Child welfare agencies should step in before it is too late. These children are clearly in danger. How anyone who claims to love his family, could repeatedly put them is such danger needs to have their head examined.
D Kennedy Alberta
— Posted on February 21, 2008 04:11 PM
Its nice to know that what seemed to be acceptable 20 some years ago is still acceptable today. My law teacher told me then, if you want to get away with murder just get behind the wheel of your car drunk, the only change today is you dont even have to be drunk to get away with it. All you have to do is claim road rage and for attempted murder you will get 18mos!! What the hell is that about?? I am of course talking about the driver who dragged the guy down the highway.
And why is Mr Coad still allowed to drive?, exactly how many speeding tickets do you need to actually be punished anyway?
k
— Posted on February 21, 2008 11:45 AM
I always thought that owning and driving a car in Canada (well at least Ontario) was a privilege, NOT a right?
When will the government step up and start banning people from driving? Taking away their drivers license for life?
The new thing in Ontario is if your caught driving drunk three times, your car gets destryoed...After three times? It's 2008 and if people don't know NOT to drink and drive, they shouldn't be driving in the first place.
And it also seems as if any half-brained numskull can get a license now. Such as the "man" (and I use that term loosely) that you showed on the Fifth Estate.
I'm a happy non-car driver/owner, and when I see things like this, makes me even happier I don't have to be on the highways.
Ryan
— Posted on February 21, 2008 07:15 AM
The sort of reverse human interest focus on Coad unfortunately trivialized a pervasive issue of public safety. Because of the extreme swagger of his views, it's too easy for us all to shake our heads and dismiss him as a road monster.
But there's a little bit of this monster in many of us. Coad has a delusional belief in his skill and invincibility. As risk factors accumulate through speed, lane changes, proximity to other vehicles, etc, the probabilities of a crash simply and statistically begin to outweigh whatever skills are brought behind the wheel. Very simply, the statistics tell you: this guy's a loser.
Secondly, the attitude that you can do whatever you like until you're caught is a complete abdication of responsibility, which developmental psychologists will point out is the logic of infants. While Coad may be extreme in his regressive attitudes, these are clearly a general condition of highway driving today.
Where the reportage should have looked under the surface was in its glancing suggestion that the highway code has unconsciously sanctioned this behaviour through failure to regulate. Why, for example, is there no regulation in Ontario against obstructing progress in the overtaking lanes? Anyone knows that the family van travelling at 5k under the speed limit in the overtaking lanes is a road rage time bomb. Why is passing in the right lanes legally tolerated? Why are speed limits unrealistically low?
People simply do not drive at the posted speeds, so contempt for regulation becomes part of the driving culture. Why is there no regulation against the use of mobile phones and texting behind the wheel? I would suggest that the code and the enforcement agencies bound to uphold it have created a road environment that both promotes and tolerates infantile behaviour behind the wheel.
I suspect that our regulatory environment is coasting on assumptions at least 40 years out of date.
John Toronto
— Posted on February 21, 2008 06:46 AM
I think Bob is a little scary but I have to say that Road Rage is caused by stupid drivers, not necessairly agressive drivers. You can be agressive but still be safe, as long as you're 100% alert and your concentration is on driving.
I live in Saskatchewan and this is the place where you have THE dumbest drivers ever. In Saskatoon, on Circle drive freeway, there are signs that say "Slower traffic keep right" yet MOST people I see everyday are driving slow in the left lane (there are only 2 lanes on this retarded freeway). And then there are people who are turning onto the road who cut you off. If I have to slow down that means you cut me off.
Stupid people who assume you're going a certain speed are the cause of road rage, not the aggressive drivers and the dumb drivers deserve road rage attacks.
Rob Saskatoon
— Posted on February 21, 2008 02:32 AM
Unfortunately, Bob Coad is not the only driver of his type out there. Alberta has thousands, and it is getting worse. Their problem is not lack of skill or knowledge, it is attitude. These people will not respond to more "education" because they believe they are superior drivers.
Your program noted that Bob Coad has never been caught, other than for minor infractions. Why not?
The main reason for their behavior: they don't think they will be caught, and they don't think they will be significantly punished on the small chance they are caught.
We need more and better enforcement, starting with hidden photo-radar, and also "ghost" cars that even alert drivers would never guess are police vehicles. Bob would get a rude awakening when trying bumper tag with a ghost car. Serious aggressive driving should result in immediate impound and forfeit of the vehicle. Also, we need to outlaw radar detectors again.
John
— Posted on February 21, 2008 12:23 AM
2000 years ago Seneca said "it takes a lifetime to learn how to live". I am afraid 'Bob' the troubled driver will take less than that, and take someone along with him to boot. Closer to now, La Fontaine said it well 400 years ago: "No need to rush! Just leave on time". Leaving 'on time' is a lot easier to do than risking your and other lives; it also cuts pollution by tons.
one more thing.
Its not Bob that is such a good driver, it is the rest of the good people on the road that have kept him from killing someone
As a professional driver licensed to drive just about anything with wheels, I have had many courses in driving including police training. I am also a member of an auto extrication team with the local fire dept.
It is only a matter of time before MACHO BOB's luck runs out. Someone is going call his bluff on "bumper tag" Is this guy for real?? He must be an actor! I have seen the end result of people like this.
A few years ago, we pulled out 5 dead young adults from a small car, because the driver was "playing Macho man" on HWY 69. People like "Bob" should be made to attend these scenes and pull out the leftovers, and then made to go and inform the relatives. He should not be allowed to drive even a shopping cart, for good, no its ands or buts about it.
Steve
— Posted on February 20, 2008 10:21 PM
Hi, The whole program was terribly shocking but there is one thing that I wanted to comment about that really ...scared me.
My husband is a trucker and that clip that was shown with Bob, who drove in front of the truck in such a manner as to force the truck to brake instantaneously, really hit home for me. It scares me when I see things like that happen. Do these drivers not realize that with the speed and weight of the transport truck they would be dead INSTANTANEOUSLY!!!
There would be no thinking or pondering if the truck could not brake in time, it would just be THE END!!! It's like these people are trying to commit suicide and wanting to take others down with them. The truck (even on the clip you could see it) could easily jack-knife or topple over, possibly killing the trucker, and any car that should happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
This is my plea to EVERYONE: Leave A LOT of room between you and any transport truck (and come to mention it, any passenger vehicle as well). I still to this day wonder why these lessons are not taught in EVERY school and drivers ed. course.
Kamila Barrie
— Posted on February 20, 2008 10:08 PM
I have just watched this story for the first time and I can't believe what an idiot this Bob guy is. What is really making me uncomfortable is he probably isn't the only one of his kind out there. What is going to happen when Bob meets someone just like him on the road. Maybe then he will finally learn.
jon
— Posted on February 20, 2008 09:04 PM
I seriously just went to Canada411 to try and find Bob Coad's mailing address so i could personally mail him a letter to tell him that i think he is a giant douche and bad things happen to giant douches.
seriously. what a moron. he's like a child who's caught in a large, ugly man's body. your "experience" is not going to save you from the person who can't put on the breaks fast enough.
What's even more disgusting is that he's a ROLE MODEL!!! FOR CHILDREN!!!
I hope you play bumper tag with me so everyone else on the road can see you get a beat down from a girl.
Anonymous
— Posted on February 20, 2008 08:43 PM
Is that Bob guy real? I mean, shouldn't drivers have a minimun IQ to be able to drive?
Antonio Ontario
— Posted on May 21, 2007 08:29 AM
Regarding Road Rage Bob, I think the simplest thing to do is show the video of him to the local justices. Then when he appears in front of them...let justice be done.
T.J. Jones Edmonton
— Posted on May 21, 2007 04:22 AM
As a former tractor-trailer driver with well over a million logged, accident free miles and 30 years experience, I can absolutely say, with 100% certainty, that this idiot Bob's driving will catch up to him and hopefully, only him.
NO ONE can run much longer than he has on pure luck. And he IS running on pure luck as his several (and unfortunately, only virtual) deaths in the simulator demonstrated.
The laws of physics and time and motion are absolutes and eventually one finds oneself in a situation where all the driving skills one possesses, both real and in Bob's case, imagined, simply cannot save the day because the time, distance and velocity formula simply say that you are about to hit something at a high rate of speed and there is NOTHING that can prevent it. Then the vehicle that you THOUGHT you were in control of becomes a hockey puck and all aboard are along for the ride.
Let's hope this moron only ends up injuring himself and not innocent people when his day arrives. I hope the CBC covers it very well when his luck finally runs out.
Bruce
— Posted on May 21, 2007 12:14 AM
I find it morbidly funny to hear how Bob considers himself to be a professional and claims to have the skills to pull-off these maneuvers, but a true professional in any profession knows that your skills are for work and not for play.
I find that it is useless for any motorist to try to interact or correct these aggressive drivers. Just let them pass and if you feel the need to be a good citizen, call the police and let them deal with the bad driver.
I saw your program Road Warriors. I am not a driver, I do not own a car, and I don't even have a driving license. However, I was so disgusted that to listen to that man from Guelph, Bob. He is a phychopath, who has no respect for human beings, the kind of person who should be locked up in prison and never let out.
It's people like him, that make me sick and never want to get my license. If he keeps up his ignorant, sick driving behaviour, he will have a terrible accident one day, or worse he will die. It's inevitable!
Cerita Toronto
— Posted on May 19, 2007 10:15 PM
I would like The Fifth Estate to reinterview Bob after he kills or maims somebody. No wait - first have him watch this show. I was surprised that nobody asked him how he would feel when one of his sons kills himself following Dad's example.
Vicki Alberta
— Posted on May 17, 2007 05:07 PM
While going to work one morning this lady drove-up behind me honking her horn and waving for me to get out
of the way. Thinking maybe she had somekind of emergency or something I sped-up until I was finally able to turn-off into a Mini-Mall entrance. She stayed so close to me that I could not even see her car's headlights in my rearview mirror! All this time she kept wildly gesticulating and horking her horn like mad!
I finally was able to pull over to let her by, which she did at about 90Km/Hr, waving a finger at me. As I watched in disbelief she roared over six speed-bumps, sparks flying everywhere, swerved around three other cars and just missed a head-on with a delivery van coming the other way! Then finally she came to a screeching halt,....in the local TIM HORTON"S DRIVE-THRU! Jeez...last thing this lady needed was a shot of caffeine!!
Bob obviously has some real issues, and driving like an idiot gives him some kind of relief. I enjoyed watching him get put into his place when conditions are changed, potholes, etc. in the driving simulator. Unfortunatly, his attitude doesn't change. Maybe if they forced him to wheel himself around in a wheelchair in jail, as well as explain to his wife that one son is dead, and the other is in life support because he wanted to "play" with another motorist, he would finally get what the consiquences of his driving style will be. No doubt, Bob, your day will come, I just hope your family is not with you, and you meet your fate with a tree or highway divider, and not another vehicle.
Forrest Vancouver
— Posted on May 14, 2007 03:19 AM
Ok so Bob thinks he is above us all when it comes to driving skills. I wonder how he will respond when he kills someone. If he dosen't get his lights punched out first. He is not a cop nor is he a teacher. He is a menace to our roads. His type of behavior and attitude is not unlike that of a terrorist.
Our roads are full of people whom make honest mistakes behind the wheel and people like Bob think they are judge and jury. I'm sure when he causes an accident he will (if not physically involved) run like the coward he is. He has no driving skills beyond most people regardless of what he may think. He just suffers for a complete lack of respect for any other people.
What will it take Bob? The death of your one of your children caused by someone as smug as you. I doubt not, as for you every thing seems to be every one else's fault.
Good thing that the CBC has taped evidence of your attitude that can be used against you at your trial. Myself as well as thousands of others whom watched this episode will have their cell phones ready and be watching out for you. The sooner your off the roads the better. Then lets see how well you prosper.
Thanks Bob. You showed us what you drive, what you look like.
Watched this show twice. The key is driving is a privilege and lets get tougher with violations, including so-called minor ones. In Vancouver, they now seize cars which have been involved in racing. On the spot!
I would like to see CbC ban car ads which show speed and power like the ad that was on with this show. It involved a race between a motorcyle and a car.Something along the lines of the bans on underweight models. It scares me to know I might meet the Bob Coads on the road, and its just a matter of time till he makes a mistake like he did on the simulator.
Anonymous
— Posted on April 10, 2007 05:12 AM
Who's that idiot Road Rage Bob ?
I'm watching the documentary right now, and he doesn't look like a very smart person.
I was engraged watching Mr Coad's driving habits. Who makes the other driver the cop? The BADGE. You never know when you're pissing off a cop on their way to or from work. I have zero problem handing out traffic tickets.
Everyone, was at some time, good enough to pass a drivers examination. What happened since then? Drivers know better. And just because someone has no license does not mean they won't drive. They will. I see proof of that every time I go to work.
Watching Coad drive made ME get mad just watching it. It's immature to play these 'games'. See how much of a game it is when you're in court justifying why you cut someone off and their 'driving skill' was below your and they didn't stop in time. You have to share the road and not everyone is as 'good' a driver as you are. There are seniors driving, and learning drivers out there. GROW UP. Your driving tactics are immature and there are many teenagers that are have better driving curtisies than you.
Laura
— Posted on April 9, 2007 05:26 PM
Problems on the road stem from many factors obvious or not. Lack of patience (poor time management), lack of respect (self & others) just to name a couple. The ability to "share" can be placed either of the two. You can even factor in the recent spate of automobile ads in the media that encourage agressive driving habits (monkey see, monkey do).
Some, and thankfully not all drivers come up short on these values and those who do are generally like this in other aspects of their lives as well.
Living in a city (Edmonton) where the road population has ballooned in the past couple of years and living in Vancouver for four years gives me a sense of balance as a motorist in both cities of what to expect and not.
Completely stopping at a stop sign or waiting their turn is a thing of the past. Letting a signaling driver in, again they are all testimonies to changing driver attitudes. Bad driver's should not need baby sitting or encouragement to be better drivers, but if push comes to shove, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Whether it comes from parent's, governments or the auto makers.
I certainly hope your host's in-the-car-and-driving segments were taped using one of those special tow cars that movie companies use when filming. It would be somewhat hypocritical to discuss aggressive drivers while your host appears to be a distracted driver. Distracted drivers talking on cell phones or eating (or worse) are more dangerous than road ragers.
A couple of years ago, on the way to work, I was slowing down to stop at a school crosswalk when I noticed the car coming up behind me in the left lane didn't appear to be slowing down. Traffic on the opposite side of the street was stopped, I had stopped and a young girl had stepped into the crosswalk and was starting to cross the four lanes. The car in the lane beside me was still doing at least 60k and wasn't slowing down. I didn't know what to do, so I honked my horn at the girl. Startled she stopped, gave me a very nasty look and accompanying hand gesture at the same time as the car flew through the crosswalk less than a metre away from the girl in front of my car. I caught a fleeting glimpse of a woman at the wheel putting on make-up. As for the kid in the crosswalk. Well, first she mouthed the word sorry... then rolled her eyes and said thank you.
To this day I don't think the woman at the wheel has any clue how close she came to killing a child. These distracted drivers are just as dangerous and need to focus on driving. There's enough driving-related multi-tasking required in the driver's seat without adding to it.
I watched the program last night on Newsworld. Although Mr. Coad's driving style is frightening, I am more concerned by his justifications for his actions behind the wheel. The man is a menace and shouldn't be allowed to drive.
I have one suggestion for people concerned about confronting road ragers. Don't. Unless you have a cell phone or someone in the car with you has a cell phone.
On a couple occasions I've had great success defusing ragers by either taking a picture of their car and license number with a camera cell phone or by using the phone to call the non emergency line at the police department and report the bad driver. JUst make sure you pull over to make the call, eh. "Have you ever noticed? Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac.?
Ontario needs to crack down on the idiots on the road. There are a few ways I believe could help do this.
1 - Most cars have a governor on them that limits the speed the car can go. On most it's 200 km/h. Why does anyone need to go that fast. A great first step would be to bring in legislation requiring all vehicles in Ontario to have governors on them that limit them to 140 km/h. There is no need to go any faster.
2 - Much, much higher fines for speeding. A $500-1000 speeding ticket will certainly get someones attention and make them think twice. Oh and put an end to just having to go to traffic court where you basically get an automatic reduction in your fines.
3 - Have certain traffic infractions result in an immediate suspension of a drivers license. This would have to be backed up with a very heavy fine or jail time for driving without a license that has been suspended.
4 - Implement dynamic speed limits. When its raining heavy or snowing, people seem too bloody stubborn and stupid to slow down. So make them, have the speed limit drop in bad weather. This would be done through electronic speed limit signs that can be changed from a central office. I believe there has already been some talk about doing this. Also back this up for very heavy fines for exceeding the reduced limit.
5 - We need better public transit so there can be less cars on the road. If there was affordable, efficient train travel available in Southern Ontario I'm sure more people would use it. I'd much other drive to the local Via station and hop on a train to Toronto then drive there. But as it is now, it would cost far too much, and the times available would rarely ever work.
6 - I know I'll get flak for this... but bring back photo radar. Have it set to a reasonable level, but nail anyone going 20 over etc. That way its not a complete cash grab, but it would be a great incentive to keep speed reasonable.
David V
— Posted on April 8, 2007 08:18 PM
I think and hope for the most part that road rage is born of practitioners of road rage and that most of use do not harbor these deadly feelings. These smug confessed offenders should be watched carefully by defenders of good drivers and delt with firmly in accordance with the laws of the roads. As a pilot I take the same cautions to our Canadian roads, thank God he is not a commercial pilot.
Rick
— Posted on April 8, 2007 07:09 AM
How many tickets can one person get and still be allowed to have a driver's license? Grant it he still may drive, but at least someone is saying you aren't fit to drive! As long as they keep allowing him to pay the tickets and get behind the wheel they are allowing him to continue this behaviour. Whose the idiot?
Also...not too smart to have the reporter trying to drive and look into a camera at the same time. Wonder what the response would be if she had been in a car crash?!?!
Joyce Vancouver
— Posted on April 8, 2007 04:00 AM
Society is to blamed for increased cars on our highways. We all want to live in large houses with picket fence in the backyard. So as our population grow it's inevitable that we have to drive further out from our city centre. And that's the price we pay to live in the suburbs.
I can totally relate to the people with roadrage. I used to be the same myself, but I find myself less aggessive as I get older. It's really about self control. I have learnt to share the roads with other, because I am not more important than those people who are trying to get to their destinations. THINK before you ACT !!!
DAVID calgary
— Posted on April 6, 2007 11:05 PM
Hi
I do not want my name given out. I an 60 years old. I watching Road Rage right now.
I drive and have driven in every province in Canada, in United States (north, south, east and west), Mexico and Europe. I drive from Sothwestern, Ontario to Mississauga, Mondays and the reverse on Fridays. I put on about 30,000 kms per year most of the time on the 401. I feel that I am a very defensive driver, always watching a couple of cars ahead and I think I have seen it all, from tires blowing on tractor/trialers, to people talking on their cell phones in the fast lane (left lane), doing 100 k/h. When I drive back and forth I'm usually in the inside lane (fast) and stay there. When cars are in front or beside me, I alway watching either the driver's head, or front wheels, they usually tell the story. I find that 50% of the people usually signal. In any case if they are ahead of me, I'll let them in.
The thing that really ticks me off is when I'm on the 401, or a major artery and want to change lanes. There will be a space either in the left or right lane beside me. The cars that are in the lane I want to go into are, all doing a constant, steady speed. I put on the signal and the car that is in that lane behind me will speed up and not let me in.
I had a incident last week where that happened. There was enought room to my right, I put the my signal to pull into the lane, and the car increased speed to intimidate me so I wouldn't pull in. I pulled in, he gave me the horn, I gave him the finger and then he backed off, and put his palm up facing forward, indicating OK, OK. Just think about this, if I had not put my signal on, I could have pulled in, with no problems. What does that say?
Some people either don't know how to drive, are inattentive, are discouteous, or are agressive. As a final note and for what it is worth, I have have had one speeding ticket, about 20+ years ago, and have never had an accident.
Anyhow that's my story.
P.S. sorry for the spelling mistakes
After watching the show with my wife, we realized we live in the same city as Bob. Personally, I think society would be better and the roads safer if this mentally unstable loon was without a license. I would love for him to slam on the brakes in front of the wrong transport, and the transport destroy his car. Of course, not with his kids in the car. They can't help it if their dad is unstable. Or even better, he gets upset with a driver and meets them at the next light. He said he antagonizes people in hopes of being able to pound on them. Well Bob (with little man syndrome) you will meet up with the wrong person some day and if you want to throw fists, I sure hope you lose. How cool will you be then tough guy??
Aran Guelph
— Posted on April 6, 2007 10:54 PM
I can't believe 'road rage Bob' is still on the road! Please take away this man's driver's license.
Vancouver, which used to be a fairly decent place to drive is no longer such a place. It is full of idiots who insist on speeding, changing lanes when someone is stopped for a pedestrian, speeding through yellow AND red lights and talking on their cell phones at the same time.
I take huge exception to the huge vehicles on the road these days. Not only are these people environmentally unconscious, but they put my life at risk every time I need to turn left. And it seems that there is no gender bias for these poor fools....males and females seem to share equal road rage behaviours.
susan Vancouver
— Posted on April 6, 2007 10:50 PM
I have suffered from road rage before, and still do, but try and do my best to stay calm. I used to think that others on the road deliberately did what they did. I'm someone who gets annoyed by those who are to lazy to give a signal, fall asleep at the wheel (no, I've never gotten impatient by someone who is slowing down to conditions, or is keeping the speed limit), or is all over the road.
I have come to realize that, however, that most of these people are not people who are trying to get a reaction out of someone else, but simply cannot drive.
Furthermore, watching my local RCMP on the road does not give me a vote of confidence in good driving habits. It is no wonder others feel what they are doing is acceptable. I still can't understand why so many are granted drivers' licenses; stricter driving tests would solve many of these problems, followed by training for police to educate them on how to lead by example.
Nick BC
— Posted on April 6, 2007 10:20 PM
To name a few driver related issues, I have more trouble with drivers who speed through yellow lights, are on the phone, are eating breakfast, are putting on makeup, are stopping in no stop zones, are running a stop sign, are not shoulder checking, and are generally not paying attention.
It's not a matter of who since we have all done these things. And you don't have to be fast to be unsafe. The least of my worries are faster drivers who just want slower drivers to pull to the right lane.
I drive fast but I'm always thinking of safety, road conditions and how to improve my driving skills. I drive fast but I also respect pedestrians, motorcyclists and cyclists. I drive fast but I also conserve fuel by being aware of a red light 3 blocks out, and by car pooling. Lets examine ourselves and prioritize our concerns so things don't blow out of proportion.
Tony Vancouver
— Posted on April 5, 2007 03:19 PM
To those who think that insurance companies should do something about drivers like Coad, please be advised that insurance companies are obliged to insure any driver to whom the government will give a drivers license, and government agencies control the premiums that are charged.
Unfortunately, taking away insurance or a drivers license does not automatically mean that this person will not continue to drive. There are lots of convictions registered for unlicensed and uninsured drivers - and who wants to get hit by someone with no insurance?!
There's no doubt that in many places the volume of traffic exceeds the capability of the road system to handle it in a reasonable manner; but why is it that some otherwise sane and responsible drivers go temporarily berserk?
Cup holders are now a standard fixture in vehicles. and the drive-thru's are lined-up all the time - double-doubles far outnumber decafes. Maybe there are just some drivers who are so hyped-up on caffine that their self-control is only borderline, and one careless incident is all it takes to send them over the edge.
Anyone for a driving/caffine survey?
Bob
— Posted on April 5, 2007 01:54 PM
I am going to have to agree with Heather from Guelph.
I watched the show and felt the Bob Coad was an Idiot, but we all know they are out there and apparently they do not or refuse to acknoledge that what they do is wrong and dangerous.
However, aside from aggressive drivers being dangerous, distracted drivers are just as dangerous. I ask you Who could be more distracted that a jounaist trying to maintain eye contact with the camera at the same time get throuogh their rehursed report while driving down one of Canadas busiest highways.
I was shocked that CBC and the Fifth estate was promoting such tactics. I was sitting in fear as you talked on and on while driving down the highway. I was very disappointed in CBC sacrificing the safety of other innocent drivers so they could "capture this report". Shame on you!
Vernando Toronto
— Posted on April 5, 2007 01:34 PM
I found it interesting that Gillian Findley didn't see the irony in video-taping pieces of her commentary while behind the wheel of a car on the highway. I would have thought the Fifth Estate would be smarter than to show that while talking about road safety!
Now that the police have footage showing Bob Coad driving like a maniac, can they not do something about it? His licence should be taken away to protect not only his kids but those of us who drive around him every day.
Heather Guelph
— Posted on April 5, 2007 12:08 PM
People like Bob Coad are the reason I keep a video camera in my car now.
I was travelling from Woodstock to Waterloo when someone started tailgating me (I was already doing 125 in a 100). I just ignored the person as I was not going to speed up for him, or enable his recklnessness by getting out of his way.
His response (and this has happened to me before) was to swerve around me, almost hitting my front bumper and then slam on his breaks. He then pulled onto Homer Watson BLVD which just happened to be where I was also turning off (and as a result I am sure he thought I was intentionally following him, possibly to antagonise him)
When we both happened to stop at the same light, me behind him. He stared at me in his rearview mirror, putting his car in reverse, and hitting me intentionally before taking off.
As a Calgary driver, I'd like to submit my list of the most common annoying behaviours I've seen on the road.
1. Failure to maintain speed. It appears that a fair number of the drivers in Calgary cannot make a lane change without slowing by 10k first. They also cannot get within 2 blocks of their turnoff without doing the same.
2. Failure to merge. Some of the ramps may be poorly designed, but that doesn't mean you drive to the end of them and stop. And it doesn't mean that you don't ease of on the gas to let someone in off them either. And just because everyone else has seen the lane ending and moved over in advance it is not an invitation to race ahead and cut in.
3. Plan your exits. They may be poorly signed, but if you are in the left hand lane of three, and you suddenly realize that you are at your exit, don't try and cut across all the lanes to cut in.
4. Don't be surprised when your light goes green. Just because your vehicle is stopped at a long red light doesn't mean you can stop paying attention to your driving.
5. Don't lock in to the vehicle in front of you. Look in front of it too. Anticipate! If you're stopped, and then the vehicle in front of the one you're behind starts moving, get ready to move. If you're moving and the vehicle in front of the one you're behind slows or stops, get ready to do the same.
6. Co-operate!! If someone is trying to get into your lane in front of you, ease off on the gas for a second or two. They'll appreciate the extra bit of space, and so will you if they have to brake in the middle of changing lanes. If someone is trying to get into your lane behind you, accelerate for a second or two. Again, they'll apreciate the extra space.
Richard Calgary
— Posted on April 5, 2007 11:39 AM
My job has required me to drive in every province from Quebec to BC, from downtown Toronto at rush hour to country roads where you might see another vehicle once an hour, so I have a slightly different perspective than those who only have limited routes.
I think there are a few simple things that might cut down on incidents on the road. My company mandates that all our vehicles have a clearly visible number to call for complaints about our driving. I think all insurance companies should mandate these for the vehicles they insure. One or two calls may happen due to mistaken complaints, (I had one forwarded to me because the call centre was so amused that the caller was complaining about me obeying the law), but a pattern of calls would most likely indicate a problem, and most insurance companies would react with higher rates to this.
I also think that highway and street signage should be standardized. A three inch high unlit sign with the street name is fine at residential intersections, where there is low traffic volume and speeds, but on major streets where there is high volumes, multiple lanes, and speeds over 60k, anyone who isn't familiar with the route is going to have to slow down and take their eye's off the road as they approach the intersection to see if this is where they need to turn. This is one of the most dangerous places to take attention away from the road. I feel that any municipality that doesn't clearly sign these type of intersections should be sued by anyone who gets involved in a collision at they streets.
I'd also like to see a little logic applied to posting speed limits. There is a stretch of road where I drive on a fairly regular basis where you go through an intersection, there is a sign on the first streetlight post for 50k, then a sign on the third streetlight for 70k, and about a km later, the speed drops back to 50k. In the 70k section, you go up onto a bridge in a curve, meet with another major route, go around another curve, and come down off the bridge. Those coming from the other route who want to turn off at the ramp at the bottom of the bridge have to quickly make their way across your lane to do so, without much visibility. Those on your route who aren't familiar with it can be surprised at the top of the bridge to find the the right hand driving lane is not an exit lane that they have to get out of. And the reason for the 70k zone? The street in that section does not meet the criteria for a residential area!
So, to sumarize, I'd like to see every vehicle have a phone number that you can call to report bad driving (or good driving), clearly visible street signage at all intersections, and posted limits that are logical, not based on simply applying a set of criteria with no thinking involved.
Richard Calgary
— Posted on April 5, 2007 11:16 AM
I do not understand why you even televised these interviews with this idiot. Don't you see he just enjoys the attention and is only encouraged to continue his dangerous driving? Others like him will also be encouraged in hopes that they will appear on televison and think themselves as celebrities.
Emily Bond Montreal
— Posted on April 5, 2007 11:11 AM
Boad Coad is craving some form of human interaction that he cannot at the poker table...he likes to hold all the "cards"....did someone say control freak!
Ray Toronto
— Posted on April 5, 2007 10:02 AM
A coupla' comments:
1. Best part of show is after Bob Coad takes the driver's test and stands beside the Police examiner doing his best imitation of choir boy. It was almost schizophrenic to see the change in personality.
2. I drive about 30km to work each day and have almost no issues with the Bob Coads by looking out for these drivers and getting out of their way: This means being aware of the cars behind me going much faster and leaving large gaps. No accident in 25 years of driving but I had a young woman behind me tapping her horn and giving me a look as I waited for a clearing (there was none!) for a left turn at a traffic light...I felt like getting out and asking her what her problem was.
Signed...a patient guy not shy of telling select types to take a long walk on a short pier,
Ray Toronto
— Posted on April 5, 2007 09:59 AM
Just caught a repeat of this program on Apr 4. This Bob Coad is an imbecile. A child trapped in a man's body. Doing 180k with his CHILDREN in the back seats ? Only a matter of time before he kills someone. One can only imagine the rage & abuse his wife and kids are subject to. Real tough guy - hit the brakes & speed away like a little kid who just threw a rock through a window.
Dano Ottawa
— Posted on April 5, 2007 09:39 AM
everywhere in canada and in the usa the speed limit is around the 120km/h, why do they still make cars faster than that ??
dutchie quebec
— Posted on April 5, 2007 09:34 AM
As I listened to the self-professed "road rager", Rob Code, glibly describe how he speeds, tail gates, cuts other drivers off, and slams on the brakes, I felt rage against him boiling up inside me. He is endangering all other drivers in his proximity. Just becasue he might be able to cope well with speed and slaloming between cars it does not mean that everyone he encounters is able to do the same.
By doing what he does, he could easily cause accidents that other multiple cars are involved in. I think that drivers such as Bob Code should have their licenses taken away and suffer huge financial and prison penalties. People are killed and maimed by people such as him.
Two Points:
1. Regarding road rage, yes it is unacceptable. I get tailgaited and then passed by agressive drivers only to see them at the next red light. Where's the logic there?
2. Regarding "fast" drivers, an outlet is needed in the form of a public racing. Any city could easily build a dragstrip just out of town where no one would hear it. Then, allow licenced insured drivers to race there instead of on the street. This would not only remove a portion of dangerous driving from the street, but it would also encourage a sense of community.
I am not a mental health care provider but I have been a professional driver and as near as I have been able to determine, "road rage," or more properly infantile tantrum syndrome, which could be shortened to "its", is a relapse into the condition of a teenager who is incapable of seeing the result of his or her actions.
Or perhaps it even calls into question the notion of human intelligence, or at least its supremacy. As in so many other cases the very thin veneer of so-called intelligence is stripped away and discarded by more primal aggression.
Looked at in this way, road rage, its, could be regarded as an intelligence test.
Shane Ontario
— Posted on April 5, 2007 02:15 AM
I haven't even seen the entire show yet and already I want to speak out against such ludicrous stupidity as that which Bob Coad is demonstrating at this moment. I am appalled that a man like him was given, much less allowed to keep a license. He is a very real danger and menace to the public and should be treated with as much severity as a drunk driver, or as someone threatening another person with a syringe.
There are plenty of people who claim to be adrenaline addicts and can find safe, alternative ways of experiencing their 'fix' without endangering the lives of everyone else in a public space such as our roads.
Unfortunately some people still chose to be ridiculously dangerous (such as Bob Coad) to all of us including their own families and love to brag about these homicidal tendencies. I can only hope our law enforcement and politicians can get tougher laws passed against a very real and dangerous problem.
But at the individual level, every moment is a choice and we cannot deny our own responsibility to the situation, or our decision to participate, or not. If someone is being a jerk, cutting people off, behaving recklessly, we still have a choice to NOT respond, to not escalate it, to end that aggressive behaviour right there in that moment with us. It is a choice to keep perspective, and it is a choice to remain in our ability to reason with the situation. This choice is what separates us humans from aggressive, reactive animals such as Bob Coad.
Beth Toronto
— Posted on April 5, 2007 01:15 AM
One could hope insurance companies could flag such a menace but with this type of mentality it would likely create something worse; an uninsured menace.
Has there ever been a program that forced these offenders to take a course to learn about their victims?
Educating them could be an effective solution for those who repeatedly put us in danger, waste court time, and our money fighting justified tickets.
Educate the ignorant.
Paula Edmonton
— Posted on April 5, 2007 12:43 AM
I experienced a road rage incident a couple of weeks ago. I was coming off a secondary road onto Highway 20 in Vaudreuil outside of Montreal. This is a very interesting intersection. Basically you cross one side of the 20 highway then there is a little inlet in the middle where cars stop and merge onto the highway.
I was in this standing area waiting for the opportunity to safely enter onto the highway. A huge 18 Wheeler was in the lane that I was waiting to merge into. He wanted to turn onto the road I had just come off of. (I had never seen a big truck make that turn) Well because I was there he could not make the turn.
He started yelling and shaking his fist at me and I could make out the obsenities that were coming out of his mouth. He couldn't turn so he went by I merged onto the highway. I put my flasher on and was moving into the right hand lane (as I always do) As I was changing lanes he cut over to the right no signal nothing and cut me off Luckily there were no cars coming so I could veer back to the left.
I was really scared and I had my sleeping 3 year old daughter in the back seat. As I passed the truck he gave me the finger. I would think that a trucker should have more control or find another job.
I believe this is a serious issue and the choice to drive while looking and talking to a camera made an almost hypocritical statement on the importance of our road safety. Road rage isn't our only problem. What about these cell phone users, those who are viewing a DVD, or even worse those drivers with cameras rolling only giving occasional glances to the road?
Paula Edmonton
— Posted on April 5, 2007 12:14 AM
Watching this makes me feel unbelievably speechless. Sadly, a part of me is not surprised.
Living in Calgary, I see some of the worst drivers ever. I joke you not, every day I drive, I have had to swerve away from drivers or slam on the brakes because people don't know how to show a turning signal or change lanes much too quickly.
One woman was driving in her truck with her two daughters near a local mall. You'd think with her own children in the car she'd drive a little cautiously, regardless, she made a quick, sloppy (I have no idea how else to describe it) turn into may lane when I was right beside her. I was so surprised, I was speechless.
I can't believe people don't know how to drive sometimes. I hate using my horn because it provokes others, and alot of the time driving incidents that happen to me usually involve the elderly, I don't want to scare them with the horn or anything.
I see cars racing each other in broad daylight, motorcycles doing stunts on the road, again, the old scenerio of changing into lanes when cars are right beside them (and of course its always the perpetraitor who gives the finger), not stopping at stop signs, driving 20 km over the speed limit in neighbourhoods.
I think Calgary has some of the most aggresive, irresponsible drivers. People need to take a step back and think, "do I want to get to my office on time and kill someone, or can I be late and spare someone's life." The answer, I hope is simple.
During the documentary, the host mentioned that drunk driving rules have become stricter. I beg to differ. One woman I know apparently was caught driving under the influence. Her punishment? A month suspension of her driver's liscence. A month! I'm outraged at this. Another man was in the car with her, and I feel strongly that those in a car with a drunk driver should also be prosectued.
My brother's friend shadowed a police officer and experienced her mentor letting another woman off from a drunk driving sentence. Why is our legal system protecting this danger? Has anyone any idea the tragedies drunk driving causes? I am sickened by our legal system at times. And, I won't lie, it makes me have a negative image on some of our law enforcers in this city.
Angie Calgary
— Posted on April 5, 2007 12:09 AM
Over the years, I have seen a fair share of problems on the roads and still do. Now, I don't drive, due to a condition called Usher's Syndrome (already deaf and now partlly blind),and see more problems on the roads. Like failure to stop at a stop sign and if someone is crossing at the stop sign, must extra caution. I had this happen to more than five occasions. One of the worst, a big van from a big cable corp. went through without stopping and I felt wind and seeing a ladder inches from my face.
The point, I am getting across that "road warriors" are
Cab companies, Transit and Coach buses and some School buses (no kids-thank God) company cars and trucks, even a fire truck (no lights and siren) doesn't matter who it is. They, all broke the traffic laws-failure to stop, speeding, etc etc.
Here's a challenge, take a 5-10 minutes at a four way stop and count how many people actually make a full stop with no one else at the stop signs. I will tell you only 0-3 cars actually make a full stop.
Thank you for your time.
James Kitchener
— Posted on April 5, 2007 12:05 AM
I'm pretty laid back on the roads, but I can tell you that I experienced "living room rage" watching Bob demonstrating his absurd and wildly dangerous sense of entitlement on your program. My heart sank to see that he has two sons that he's modelling this behaviour to.
What kind of skill anyone thinks they have is irrelevant in relation to being allowed to break laws and take chances with other people's lives. The trouble is that every second meatball behind the wheel feels about the same as Bob, regardless of a history (or lack thereof) in stunt driving. They're called "accidents" for a reason - they weren't intended to happen. It's only a matter of time.
Revealing that he gambles for a living explains a lot. Bob is mistaking the grid of 400 series highways for a big roulette wheel. His self description of "adreneline junkie" is just another name for "addict". He basically verbalized that it's all a gamble - whether he'll get caught, whether the ticket will stick. He's betting himself on every fool move he makes on the roads. Bob has a gambling addiction problem and needs to drive his butt to a 12 step meeting and get some help with that.
Heidi Vancouver
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:54 PM
I viewed your program this evening.
Some interesting comments? I feel that drivers contribute to the aggressive driving problems. (I am not in anyway defending this 'dingbat' who risks his own life and the safety of others because of his serious neurosis) What I am saying that all of us (myself included) do not follow the law and drive properly all the time? that means stay right!!! Unless actively engaged in passing, vehicles should stay right.
In the commercials from B.C. they show that guy walking right behind someone. The natural instinct for the person in front is to move out of the way. Yet in our cars we hold our spot and never seem to move over.
When they first drew the chevrons on the 401 there were huge signs stating 'stay two chevrons from the car in front.' I always wondered why they never put some of the onus on the driver in front that if there is less that two chevrons between you and the car behind your in the wrong lane 'move over!
That means moving over as soon as you see that a lane is blocked? not racing up the inside and 'muscling' your way over. That was an interest comment from the interview with gentleman in California? if there was one cashier open at the local grocery store and 30 people in line you wouldn't dare cut in front. And if you tried rest assured people in line would rightly do more than just frown and let you in with a wave. I have to confess that is my one weakness?
Huge Flashing Arrows probably 2 km stretch of cars merging into one lane due to an accident or construction? a tight line bumper to bumper and yet someone feels that it's ok for them to race up the empty lane and cut in at the last moment. I will usually ride the dotted line and drive half in both lanes and I never - never let anyone in front of me. So watch out.
Carl Guelph
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:35 PM
Road rage is quite predictable, even natural, if it's perceived in the broader context of over-crowding. For instance, how many rats can you stuff into a cage before they start chewing each other to pieces? Or... how many millions of people can you cram into a city before they start killing each other with whatever happens to be at hand?
Tony Edmonton
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:28 PM
I have a couple of things to say to the braggart with such abhorent driving skills who got too much air time on your show tonight:
Stop! Get out of the car with your hands in the air!
Drop those keys!
You need urgent psychiatric help following the completion of your jail term.
lois Walkerton
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:26 PM
What is needed is a change in what is considered acceptable behaviour, and maybe this program is a start. Smoking used to be encouraged as "cool" behaviour. The second-hand smoking debate turned that right around to where other people's right to breathe is now more important that one's right to smoke. That is analogous to people's right to safer roads being more important that one driver's right to speed.
Seems like the low odds of getting caught by the police is not much of a deterrent. Justifying bad driving habits with comments like "I've only ever gotten two tickets and fought them in court" makes me want to campaign for a "black box" program. (Think of the technology used by airplanes whereby a trip's statistics are recorded.) Currently a handful of insurance companies offer this as a voluntary program with the incentive being lower insurance premiums for good driving habits. If these devices were mandatory and road-ragers knew that "big brother" was constantly monitoring them, then maybe they would drive better most of the time, and not only when they see the odd police car nearby.
P.S. - Taking a license away only works for moderately bad drivers who have a conscience. The really bad ones who drink-and-drive or who have that I'm-the-greatest-driver-so-I-don't-have-to-follow-the-rules attitude aren't deterred by losing their license for life. Instead, they keep on being that bad driver with the extra adjective of 'unlicensed' added to their driver description; that's all.
Astrix
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:13 PM
Cam Wooley you have your job cut out! Please take that Bob and grab his licence. I am appalled at how he nonchalantly shows us how little respect he has for his wife/family's lives, let alone the lives of any other person who has the misfortune to be on the road at the same time as he. He should respect his licence and use it accordingly.
I hope someone from his neighbourhood recognized him, as well as his insurance company.....and I hope I never meet him strapped to a backboard in the ER!
Joanne
— Posted on April 4, 2007 11:13 PM
Every day I shake my head. I find that most of the problem drivers that I encounter on the roads these days have no sense of driving skill.
On a daily basis, I deal with people who don't stop at stop signs, cut abruptly into a lane without signaling, use on-ramps as a passing lane, turn left on red signal lights, speed, and so on. The ones that you can actually see eye to eye look at you with that "Yeah, I'm stupid" look.
I think it's the new driving style; If I drive like an idiot and say "I'm sorry, I'm stupid," I can pass cars on the right, even drive on the curb to pass all the other cars and somewhere, up ahead, someone will let me in, because, I'm stupid and they'll feel sorry for me."
Richard Innisfil
— Posted on April 4, 2007 10:29 PM
Great story; but will Bob really change his aggresive driving habits? Not likely without rehabilitation or worse (a serious incident or accident). Maybe his wife should learn to drive and get her license. Couldn't help but think the next generation of 'road warriors' were sitting in the back seat observing and becoming totally desenitized to safe driving habits; all thanks to 'pops'. Just like other serious antisocial behaviors, these poor boys will probably fall into the same vicious cycle.
What if ALL licensed drivers are mandatorily retested every 5 years? Wouldn't this help cut down on aggresive, unsafe drivers or at least red flag these potentially dangerous motorists? You could take it one step further and legislate that drivers who 'fail' a mandatory driving test have their licensed suspended until they successfully pass another driving test and/or complete 'anger management courses'.
In my 30 some years of driving experience, I fear for the safety of myself and other motorists when I see senior citizens over 75 years old at the wheel of a vehicle. I have driven with my father-in-law many times when he was in his 80's and feared for our safety. I will not ride in the same vehicle with him now that he is 90+ (failing vision, nearly deaf, slow to react, etc., yet the Ministry of Transportation renews his licence every year! I don't get it!
Hopefully your program will have an impact and maybe even change the laws or introduce new ones or at the very least, open some doors for opportunities to address this serious antisocial behaviour. Bravo CBC!
My husband and I moved from Calgary 1.5 years ago. I have been driving for 21 years, and most of my driving experience was gained driving in BC and Alberta.
Sorry Ontarians (specifically GTA people), but you are the worst drivers on the planet. But it is not your fault because all the road signs need to be changed to accommodate you. Speed limits and red lights should have the word "suggestion" stamped on them, all-way stops need to be changed to all-way yields.
You know who you are...you are halfway across the intersection before the light changes green, you pass and drive on the shoulder when you are in a hurry, you constantly switch lanes back and forth thinking you are really getting somewhere and where do I find you?
At every single red light. I have been tailgated on the 400 doing 100km in the far right hand lane, like I have no right to be there. I thought I was being courteous by being where I am supposed to be.
Mr. Coad is the poster child for bad driving behaviour. The worst part is Mr. Coad thinks the whole thing is funny. And the weak, passive laws in our country do nothing to get morons like this off of the road. Mr. Coad claimed he thinks people might say he is arrogant. I have other words for you sir: dangerous, selfish, ignorant, egocentric, and oblivious should cover it.
Shawn Kelly Oakville
— Posted on April 4, 2007 10:18 PM
I really think that this fellow has got to be taken off the road before he kills someone.His attitude is terrible.
Brad
— Posted on April 4, 2007 10:10 PM
I would like to know why Bob isn't driving for a living making money to support his family instead of gambling? He has all the license qualifications.
I have been a profesional over the road driver for the past 9 years, and have seen and met his kind, and can only say he is what we in the industry call unemployable! He is going to kill someone if he doesn't grow up and be a real man and understand that as good as he thinks he is, it only takes one bad driver to ruin a good drivers record!
I know that he is going to end up killing someones mother, daughter, son, father, If he doesn't stop and think about his actions and the repercussions.
Please Bob from one driver to another SLOW DOWN!! Life is precious! Also you have your children in that mini van doing 180kph why not just put a loaded gun in their hands and pull the trigger. Thats child endagerment clear and simple!!
Grow up BOB!!!
John C. kitchener
— Posted on April 4, 2007 10:04 PM
Dear Bob. I too have quite a driving, history, as well, and at first I thought I could go looking for you, you know, play some bumper tag.
Now, I would probably use recent model Crown Vic. you know the kind with the grill gard and stuff already installed.(susp.brakes,ZR.tires,exhaust,chip.etc.
Now I need a large car because I`m quite large (6'2",235 lbs.) and I`ll need room for 3 friends, (who make look small) to make the ride smoother and stuff. No, maybe I`ll just sit here and wait for you to wreck. Probably get loose
at hi speed, or maybe some guy with 18 wheels, a rig ten times the size of yours,and was already having a bad day, and just got a "dear Bob" letter.
The possibiliities are endless. I pray you don`t take someone with you. As for you, well, were all gonna be better with youre type off the roads at any cost. Seeing cops just stand there while people incriminate themseves doesn`t suprise me either.
Kelly Hamilton
— Posted on April 4, 2007 09:58 PM
I arrived from France to establish in Quebec 1 year ago. I often drove in Frnace and UK, the traffic is very dense and you see all kind of behaviours, some just "risky", some who kill. But I thought it was a specificity of europeans to be aggressive on the road.
Then I arrived here, and 2 things stunned me :
1) The agressiveness of all the advertising of cars on TV. 99% of car brands show you cars driving at very high speed, with a maximum dose of adrenalin and testosterone. Maybe nice to make a dynamic TV spot, but i can not prevent from thinking showing this kind of behavior everyday as a "value" has not a impact on the individual and collective unconscious.
2) The speed most of the cars (and the trucks !!!) where driving. I was strangly one of the only one to respect the speed limits. Driving at 70 km/h in a residential district or at 150 km/h on a slippery road don't really seem to be something we can do without thinking : "am i really doing something safe for me, my passengers, for the other people, drivers, cyclists or pedestrians ?"
3) The toal absence of police controls on roads and highways. If people don't understand by themselves potential danger of cars.
I've watched the re-run of the show, hence the late comment.
I can't help thinking how people with no ability to think straight, being Coad or someone that hugs the left lane of a highway at 80km/h while the right lanes are open, or the ones banging their car doors into yours in parking lots and feeling no guilt, or countless other obviously stupid behaviours, get a driver's licence and get to keep it over the years.
Nowadays there are aptitude/psychological tests for almost any profession. Why not test people for driving licence? I assure you we'll have much less idiots on the road.
I'm still waiting to see the OPP enforcing ALL the rules of traffic not just their easy to cath favorites.
Good show. Sparked a lot of discussion. Maybe an daily morning one to educate the average crazy or incompetent driver will help too.
Dan Mississauga
— Posted on April 4, 2007 09:48 PM
After watching the show on Road Rage Bob, I cannot understand how someone like this is allowed to keep his license and remain on the road to kill people.
This individual is a bully very similar to the one in minor hockey, elementary school, high school, etc.
We cannot tolerate this type of individual in normal society.
Take his license away and unfortunately he will bully peoople on public transit. This guy is a criminal waiting to be sent to jail, the sooner the better.
Terry Sarnia
— Posted on April 4, 2007 09:40 PM
Road rage only affects me when people unsafely invade my driving space. Often people will intentionally tailgate even when there's a perfectly clear passing lane. This behaviour is an obvious attempt to annoy the driver in front who up until that point was entirely innocent of any malicious behaviour.
I am an extremely defensive driver until I am forced into a situation I feel is unsafe.If this occurs I become an agressive driver until I have releived myself of the dangerous predicament others generate. One example of dangerous driving is what I like to call 'pack driving'. People seem to be afraid to separate themselves from other drivers and have a tendency to clump together in large packs. Driving in the gaps between these 'packs' allows me a great deal of comfort and safety.
The Ontario Provincial Police have promised time and time again to crack down on irresponsible driving, but unfortunately their focus is primarily centered on speeding violations. I believe the largest cause of problems on the roads are from people following too closely, and failure to signal BEFORE changing lanes. The police need to be more aware of the specific driving habits of individuals and administer fines accordingly. Speed traps are merely a money grab, and an overall blind eye to the public's need for safe driving enforcement.
Wow, after watching the "road warriors" segment I find my self so emotionally overwhelmed. I am a service technician for a medical company and drive approx 75000 km a year all over sw Ontario. I encounter guys like "Bob Coad" all the time. What an Idiot. I have a good mind to hire someone to find where he lives and go to his house ,ring his doorbell and knock some sense into him. I feel that strongly about it. Driving 180 in a mini van with his kids in the car. Passing on the right? He should lose his liscence and custody of his kids. Let alone be locked away for a while to think about his actions. Guys like him endanger us everyday. I drive on the 401 all day at 110kph and guys like him pass me like i am parked. I dont like to drive much over that but sometimes with the flow of traffic, 120 is the norm. I see fellows like him passing on the right, weaving all over the road, cutting across 3 lanes of traffic to reach "their" exit. I routinely drive from Toronto to Windsor and if I see one patrol car it is a major event. Where are the OPP? I used to laugh at these traffic blitzes. Never see any extra patrol cars on the road. When I pass an OPP detachment all the cars are there, parked. If this were the USA there would be highway patrol cars under each overpass.
I have a friend who is an officer with the OPP and he has told me many times that if the public actually knew how many officers were actually out patrolling the highways they would be shocked. He has told me that sometimes in the daytime there may be 1 or two patrol cars between London and Windsor. Other officers are doing other things , like patroling several small towns that dont have their own patrols, doing paperwork, court duty etc.
when I drive on the secondary roads going up north to Owen Sound, I am constantly amazed by drivers that dont know what the double line in the middle of the road means. I have had people pass me on a hill, on a corner. Heaven help us if anyone is in the oncoming lane. We will all be dead, all because someone like Bob Coad was in a rush to get to his card game.
Take your time folks. Life is short. Enjoy the ride and the scenery and be careful getting there. Few people realize how much energy a car has going down the road at 100 kph. I have been lucky. 20 Years of driving and no tickets or accidents. Yet I passed my test to get my liscence over 20 yrs ago. I feel a retest every 5 years would be appropriate. What about everybody else?
Keep up the good work Fifth estate.......
Given the video evidence of the manner in which this stooge Coad (or whatever his name is)has operated a vehicle, the OPP now MUST do their job. That would be charge him with excessive speeding and dangerous driving. There's likely a couple of other things the OPP could throw in too. OR has the CBC promised Coad some kind of immunity from prosecution in the interest of glorifying his stupidity??
C'mon OPP what are you waiting for??
Bryan Kitchener
— Posted on February 13, 2007 05:12 PM
Background: 11 years driving experience, no accidents. Driven throughout Canada, Montreal, Toronto, Halifax, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver and Victoria. I had bad road rage in my early driving years (I'm a red head, I've always had a bad temper), but have become more temperate with time. I've driven cars, trucks and vans ranging from my old 86 Chevette to my 05 Mustang. Though I did not see the show, the state of drivers, especially in Victoria, is ABYSMAL! I have never had the problems here with drivers than I ever did east. I will admit, I have a heavier foot than some, and do suffer from mild rage, but the two are not related. I'm fine with slowing down for traffic, even if both lanes are blocked by traffic moving at the same speed. Irritating, but not the end of the world. Here's why I rage 1) People not using their signal lights when they cut me off: it's more rare to see someone use their signal lights here, when changing lanes or turning a corner. 2) People getting in the outside lane, knowing it's going to end or there's traffic parked, with the INTENTION of cutting you off. 3) People hitting my car while parked and not leaving insurance info: haven't had the car 2 yrs and it's happened 3 times, once hard enough to displace my cars rear end 1.5ft. 4) People throwing on their signal lights and pulling over without even checking your mirrors: just because your lights on doesn't mean I'm REQUIRED to give way, I will, but I'm sick of people using their junk cars and forcing me to give way to keep them from hitting my new car. 5) Control your car. Mine's bigger and stronger. It requires more to drive, but I can still manage to keep it in my own lane when cornering, vice taking up two lanes. I'm not saying that when I swear to myself about the ineptitude of other drivers that I'm right. What I am saying, is that the cumulative errors of people not using their signal lights, not yeilding, merging or giving way, not using their mirrors, sitting in the middle of two lanes and more, is more dangerous than my 5-10km/hr speeding.
NOTE TO CYCLISTS: Keep the air clean and keep fit. But if you want the same rights on the road as a motorist, than obey the same rules and remember, if you're driving like an idiot and obstructing traffic, if something happens, I'm encased in steel AND have air bags!
Commone sense and courtesy on the road would prevail, but these are lacking in our society regardless.
Rich Victoria
— Posted on February 13, 2007 02:32 PM
I enjoyed watching this program and as an experienced highway driver having driven in a number of countries have had my share of close encounters with road ragers and distracted drivers. I was however, immediately struck by the fact that Gillian was being interviewed while she was apparently driving. She took her eyes from the road for long periods of time while addressing the camera and in general role modeled a poor example of distractions while driving. Her concentration, in my opinion, was focused on her driving. Please be aware that programs such as this have an impact on how they portray subliminal messages as this one did.
As a frequent traveller to Toronto using the 401, I have noticed over the years that too many drivers do not move out of the left lane when they should. Yes, cars passing you on the right is usually a sign that you should have moved over earlier ! This is a root cause of the frustration and road rage that I have witnessed on the 401. On my last trip, there was an older male driver in a van that could barely stay within his lane (the left one for many kilometers), drifting within the lane and about a foot across into the middle lane many times. Many cars passed him on the right but he stayed in the left lane for 10 km. I would love to see the police prosecute such drivers. Personally, I do not mind at all allowing faster vehicles to pass me. Better having them in front of me than close behind.
Paul S Montreal
— Posted on February 13, 2007 02:16 AM
No offense here guys/ladies.. but i have driven across Europe, from romania, to Berlin Germany, across Italy, over Austria, and Hungary's Barbaric Auto Sztrada. But Gentlemen, if you guys get Road rage in these north american "highways" at rush hour where cars move no more then 50km/h because of the dense traffic, haha well thats kind of sad. Not to brag or anything, but im only 18, my background is pure hungarian/Austrian and a living in canada, i have driven in the most barbaricest and most aggressive countries known for speed and aggressiveness in driving. Try an avrage speed of 180km/h on the Auto Sztrada, AND GUESS WHAT??? Europe does not have Left lane blockers, like in north america/Canada.. SO THAT MEANS the traffic actually moves nice and un cloged in certain areas. So if you think about it, i completely understand Bob here's driving, yea he does some dumb stuff like bumper tag.. but hey, if he feels safe driving at a 180km/h move to the right lane like a smart person, and like the sign on your everyday highway tells you " Slower traffic keep right" and let em go by.. so simple.. dont get what all the "raod rage" is here??? If someone passing you on the highway gets u "raod raged"... sad.. really is.
Hopefully this isnt to "harsh" for the soft hearted Admin of this small disccussion, but some of you canadians need to kind of see that whining over a 50km/h traffic jam is nothing compared to some of the other driving in the world, and that people like Bob in the video, just need to be let go and forgoten about on the highways and roads.
end of rant. Now drive safe everyone and 10 - 2 on the wheel LOL!!
N/A
— Posted on February 13, 2007 01:07 AM
The seriousness and dangerousness of road rage, and careless driving in general, would have been better reported from somewhere other than from behind the wheel of a moving car, which Ms. Findlay did numerous times during the report.
Shame!
Tara Calgary
— Posted on February 12, 2007 06:34 PM
In driving, like in everything else, the best driver is the one which constantly asks "How can I become a better driver."
As soon as you stop asking this question you immediately become worse. Ask Tiger Woods in golf.
Ted Roberts Mississauga
— Posted on February 12, 2007 01:34 PM
I see guys like this all the time. I live in mississauga, work in scarboro, so i take the 401 daily.
Guys like coade need help, and they live in their own little fantasy world. The CBC should give him up to the OPP dude Cam Wooley and they should book him pronto. Also, it looked like he was running an illegal card game as well...He said it himself, "I have to win, at all costs", Maybe i should keep a copy of the tape and keep it in my car next time a cop stops me for going 20 over the limit! Cmon CBC do your civic duty here!
Michael G Mississauga
— Posted on February 12, 2007 01:14 PM
There have been a lot comments about Coad and I agree, OPP, insurance companies, etc. need to act.
I'd like to add a comment about the fellow who was dragged by the car. His injuries were terrible and recovery must have been difficuly but I can't help but think that he provoked the whole thing. He blocked the other guy in, he went up to the window to confront him (in response to honking), he stuck his face in the window when the other driver was arguing with his wife, and he hung-on to the widow/mirror for some reason, when the car started moving. Let go when the guy's car starts moving! Let go when it looks like he's leaving the parking lot! Let go when he speeds up! Why did he hold on ?!? He said it was because he didn't want to go under the back wheel. Well, he did anyway and it was at high speed!
It was irritating to see him playing the role of the poor victim when, at the same time, there was a certain smugness in the way he described the situation. Seems to me the other guy, though not excused for his actions, took all the blame and paid the price for what was a two-person conflict.
Dave Ottawa
— Posted on February 12, 2007 10:58 AM
After viewing your program about road rage, I became extremely agitated by the self proclamations of Mr. Coad that he is a "good" driver. No one, I repeat, no one with an "attitude" is a good driver. I seriously believe that he should enroll himself in an anger management class to resolve the underlying emotional issues of his behavior. I suspect that we will soon be hearing about the tragic end of his life, perhaps of his family, and whoever he decides to take out with him. Get some help Mr. Coad!!!
anne
— Posted on February 12, 2007 07:40 AM
As a professional driver with 3.5 million miles of safe driving behind me, I was appalled at this morons behavior! And with his wife and children in the van with him?? I have seen this behavior much too often and agree with the majority, he should have his PRIVILEGE to drive taken away from him, for all our sakes! I would (and do) urge everyone to note a lic plate when dangerous drivers are seen and an immediate call to 911 as this cannot be tolerated!
REGARDING CYCLISTS:
Sharing the road isn't working in this city nor the many others I've travelled to over the years in North America. Europe is different.
As a life-long cyclist I've been the victim of viscious road rage countless times and frankly, I feel lucky to be alive.
Have you ever been dragged on your heels by the scruff of your coat into a dark alley and an awaiting SUV by two testosterone-crazed steroid-monkeys even though you were 100% innocent? I have. I called 911 and waited for 2 hours for the police. They never came. They took a phone statement from me 6 hours later and nothing ever came of it.
Obvious solutions include:
- no more cell phone usage will driving (or biking for that matter!)
- investment in cycling infrastructure with clear division between cyclist and motorist.
- extremely strict enforcement when penalizing motor vehicle drivers that have been obviously aggressive to cyclists.
thank you for reading this.
Joe.
Joe Karthein Vancouver
— Posted on February 12, 2007 03:18 AM
If you find yourself on the receiving end of someones mistake, or deliberate action, while driving, don't "return fire" with guestures or agression. When someone else puts you in in a bad mood, they have already won the battle. The wrongdoer, naturally, will look to see if they have upset you and "won". If you smile, you win.
My husband and I watched the show and were appalled by this guy Coad's attitude. Society is full of people these days who care for no one but themselves and it's disgraceful.
To the commenter above who wrote that to sit in the passing lane while others are passing on the right smacks of "entitlement", I would have to ask what they think of the attitude of people who believe they have the right to break the law by whipping along at 140 km/h without having to be inconvenienced by someone who is obeying the limit? THAT sounds a little like "entitlement" to me, don't you think?
To all those self-righteous idiots who use the "left lane is for speeding" excuse for their road rage, I say the law is the law. The limit is 100 km/h on the 400 series of highways. If you don't like it, tough! Wanna do 150 km/h? Go to a racetrack and speed to your hearts' content.
I agree that this Bob fellow is dangerous, but we cannot ignore the fact that the people on the opposite spectrum are equally dangerous: the self-righteous and pious. Here are my opinions:
1. If you are not comfortable driving 100km/h stay off the highways!! As a young drivers' grad, one of the key lessons I remember is "go with the flow".
2. If you don't NEED to drive during peak times, DON'T.
3. If someone is tailgating you, DON'T slam on your brakes because you are just as bad as the tailgater. I am not condoning tailgating but honestly, what are you proving by slamming on the brakes?? You are just as bad!!
4. If you miss a turn or somehow make a navigational error while driving, suck it up and wait until the next turn.
5. If someone honks at you or engages in other types of road rage activities, IGNORE THEM!! While my heart goes out to the poor man in the show who was dragged by the moving car, let’s be honest: he brought that upon himself!!
I could go on ad nauseum but I just wanted to point out that while Bob's driving it totally unacceptable, some who think they are "cops in cognito" should take a critical look at their driving practices as well.
Carl Balcom Ottawa
— Posted on February 11, 2007 11:37 PM
We all have had situations arise that have made us react unfavorably. However, most of us realize what we are doing and return to normal. Unfortunately there are neanderthals like Bob Coad in every jurisdiction and you just have to hope that you don't encounter them as you go about your daily business. I am a retired tractor-trailer driver and I was able to see that common courtesy on the road was deterioting steadily. I am quite happy that I have been able to put that part of my life behind me.
This Bob Coad fellow is probably the biggest lowlife I have ever seen on television, aside from remorseless murderers. Its only a matter of time before he will kill someone and likely injure/kill himself in those "high-performance" vehicles of his. a mid-90s Windstar doing 200km/h are you for real? An early 90s Lumina weaving an and out of traffic and locking up the brakes. Clearly this guy had little to zero knowledge and has never been to a racing school, I heard nothing of skid control, threshold braking or any sort of technique at all. Wow, you can steer your car on the highway, real expert...when you tried the simulator you failed, miserably.
Bottom line, Coad is not alone there are plenty of heroes out there that test you. I myself really work hard at not getting sucked, as I am a trained race car driver with a 400hp BMW who could easily get in front of anyone I choose.
Since his plates were clearly visible on the show and there are dozens of examples of dangerous and careless driving, including taped confessions why is he not in jail again? At least the Insurance bureau of Canada should be blacklisting him.
I just wish some people would consider that there are other people on the road as well. I'm not necessarily speaking of road rage but speed in general.
You have some people who just thrive on speed and who rig up their cars to make them go faster and sound noisier. Do you want to race and test your car..... go down a dead end street and do it there where you know that you're not going to meet someone in a turn. If you're that crazy, just kill yourself and don't bring anyone else with you. But when you're on the road, there is always traffic and that means there's always a risk of something going wrong. Why take that chance?
Another thing is that there are just too many people who are in a rush all the time. Why not try leaving early and anticipate any problems or construction or congestion instead of trying to get someplace ten minutes ago. Saying that you have control of your vehicle when you're driving in excess of the speed limit is crap. You have control if everything is going fine. But you can't tell me that you can avoid another vehicle if you're tailgating and the vehicle in front of you puts their brakes quickly, of if you happen to accidentally hit the shoulder or a pothole or something. There are too many possibilities and as far as "what are the odds", like Bob Coad said, why would you want to risk it. If you're a gambler, it's one thing to risk your life but there are other drivers on the road as well. Maybe a family going for a nice drive, or just someone going for groceries, or taking their kids to a soccer game....it doesn't matter, just slow down. It could be "your" spouse or kids or parents in the other car. Think about that.
I had people say, "Well if he would ever hit someone and kill them, he'd kill himself because he could never live with himself after". How senseless!!! You have to kill someone before you realize that accidents like this could actually happen. No one is invincible and YES IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU.
I was lucky and I can be here to talk about it but the speeding driver (20 years old) wasn't as lucky, he was killed and I live with that picture in my mind everyday.
I feel that the police should stop giving warning and petty speeding tickets and take away the Privilege of driving. Cut up their license and make sure they don't get back behind the wheel.
Please slow down and respect the speed limits and the other drivers.
a victim
— Posted on February 11, 2007 08:50 PM
It is obvious from the video footage that Mr. Coad has very good driving skills. In fact his skill level is probably close to that of a Formula 1 driver. Unfortunatly, what Mr. Coad does not understand (probably from the low level education he has received), is that those driving skills should be used only on some sort of race track or private obstacle course.
Many people who have posted here, are understandably angry with Mr. Coad. They see him as an arrogant, dangerous person. However, in reality he is just scared. He obviously suffers from extremely low self esteem. He only "plays" the part of the "know it all". People should actually feel sorry for him. I am not a psychologist, far from it in fact, but anyone can see that he is just begging for attention. He thinks no one likes him, and that no one pays any serious attention to him. If people like Mr. Coad have their privilege to drive revoked, it should be because of the recognition of his mental illness, not because he is arrogant. Trust me, if one of his loved ones were ever hurt, or God forbid killed by someone like him, he would no doubt be singing a different song. I really hope Mr. Coad seeks some counseling, if not for himself, then he should do it for his family's sake. Even though he probably feels like a failure in his family's eyes, he should know they want the best for him.
Bobby Montreal
— Posted on February 11, 2007 08:38 PM
Just watched your show,and want people like Bob, to know that because of assholes like him,I don't feel safe visiting our daughter ,who is attending University Of Guelph.Send him to "The East Coast"and we will teach him some manners about how to drive.I also personally feel that Bob Coad received too much airtime.It made him cockier than he was before the show.Scares the heck out of me,to think that someone would throw ones' beloved animal into oncoming traffic.Would they do the same if the couple were travelling with a child??Sick world we live in,and I Thank God every day for living in Nova Scotia(the have not province)
Mary
Mary
— Posted on February 11, 2007 08:17 PM
I think everyone else has already said that i was thinking, and to be brutally frank if Bob doesn't care about the rest of us, I hope he cares about his kids.
(and I prey he pays to someone else to teach them to drive)
I would have liked to asked Bob what gives him the right
not only ignore the legal rules of the road, but to set them for the rest of us and play russian roulette with our lives.
I hope his insurance broker was watching this.
BTW way i've often heard "good" drivers state they've never had and at fault accident, but they always seem to
have a lot of close calls.
Wang Halifax
— Posted on February 11, 2007 08:14 PM
The root of the whole problem is Training Training Training....our driver training in this country is a joke!
We need to clamp down severly on our own government. No matter who you are, a new driver 16 to 86 years old needs to be trained correctly ,not just read a book and answer a few questions and off you go....
It should be a progressive series of cources that youngsters take as part of their schooling from grade 8 on up.
We as a society pay dearly for people that cause havoc with our lives because they are not trained correctly.
I am DISGUSTED by Mr. Coad's utter lack of consideration for the lives of other people. He should be allowed to drive ONLY on a CLOSED course - NEVER on public roads again. Does is take his wife or child being killed by him, or someone else to wake this idiot up?
I hope the OPP removes his license permanently. You have documented proof of his driving and his PRIDE in how he is such a good driver and it's "other people" who are the problem.
Wendy
— Posted on February 11, 2007 07:41 PM
So when is this guy going to lose his license? If there isn't plenty enough evidence already to put him in jail for pre-meditated endangerment the laws need to be changed.
Mark
— Posted on February 11, 2007 07:22 PM
When are we, society, going to stop talking about what we should do to those that flout the rules of the road and actually legislate laws that reflect our absolute refusal to accept such behavior? I'll tell you when, after we wean ourselves off of our big fat oil addiction. 1.2 million people world-wide die each year from car accidents and 40 times that amount are injured each year in while driving their cars. In 20 years that's almost a billion people injured from car accidents. Disgusting. Start writing your MPs and demanding for laws that reflect society's unwillingness to sit back and allow psychopaths to kill and injure people while driving their vehicles.
I hope that all police have his name and face locked in their memory. He must be taken off the road. What an arrogant....you know what.
Ken Downey Calgary
— Posted on February 11, 2007 01:35 PM
since every is so worried about speed why don't we get
the manufacture to govern all cars at 100km this would
cut down the need of expensive high speed radials and all speeding tickets the insurance company can reduce
the rates we would need less police .......oh ya sorry
I was just dreaming can you see it police driving used cars with no air conditioning and insurance companies
renting offices above bingo places sad to say it comes down to money
WOLF ont
— Posted on February 11, 2007 10:32 AM
I consider myself a pretty passive driver. I try and anticipate what happen's, before it happens. I guess it comes from years of motorcycle riding, where one mistake could lead to death, your death. Let's see them put good ol' Bob on a motorcycle! Besides once ol' Bob's insurance company gets a hold of his tickets, it will hit him where it hurts, in the wallet.
Anyway, I wanted to touch on something the program didn't. As I said, I'm a pretty passive driver, but my wife is brutal! She is the epitomy of the back seat driver. It is so bad that I can't go to a border crossing without her telling me which lane to drive in because she thinks it's going faster. She has no sense of direction, and gets lost backing out of the driveway, but is always forcing her opinion on which way to go. She is so opinionated, and is such a road rager, she tries to egg me on when I'm driving, reaching over to honk the horn at someone she believes to be offensive.
Frank Hamilton,Ontario
— Posted on February 11, 2007 04:11 AM
I hope this Bob Coad character was just sensationalizing his driving attitude and you were using him to dramatize his type. Like some have already said, "road rage" only occurs if you let it! If you're cut off or someone flips the bird at you, they've got the problem. Either from having a bad day or a previous driver, they want to take it out on someone or something. As soon as you react it becomes your problem too! So you should just recognize that and feel empathy for their small mindedness!
The one thing that did stick in my craw was when he said he liked to play bumper tag and "what makes that person think they are the police", does he think it's some kind of kids game out there! The reason someone flashes their brake lights at you is to remind you that you are impinging on their safety. SO BACK OFF! If you want to be reckless or live on the edge of danger. Get your thrills somewhere where you won't be jeopardizing the safety of others. Join the army and take your aggression out on the terroists. No wait we don't want your type there either!
Doug
— Posted on February 10, 2007 04:11 PM
One of the things that struck me when driving in most of the States is the religious obedience of the speed limit laws by the majority of drivers. The resultant reduction in driver tension is amazing. My American friends explained to me that the State troopers simply do not tolerate speeding.
Most drivers in Ontario feel that it's OK to speed. 20kph over the limit is common, with 140kph gaining popularity on 400. Then there are the drivers who insist on going faster than everyone else by 20kph or more. Many of the latter are the experienced road ragers.
As traffic volume increases, police speed enforcement becomes less effective. Radar traps becomes dangerous for the officers, and patrol cars becomes sparse and mainly ineffective. Photo radar was much hated because the overwhelming majority of Ontario drivers speed. I noticed that photo radar significantly reduced average speeds and I'm willing to bet that it also reduced the toll on the roads. Why doesn't anyone have the guts to publish the road accident statistics of before, during and after photo radar?
I'm calling the Fifth Estate chicken, if that'll help.
John Cook
— Posted on February 10, 2007 10:47 AM
Crowded road conditions cause irrational road rage symptoms in the majority of drivers.
The expressions "cut me off" and "cut in front of me" are emotional and mostly irrational fighting words. To the road rager the ultimate crime is someone changing lanes in front of him, even a mile ahead of him. Every rational driver must realize that he too "cut in front of" someone to get into the lane he is in. In crowded traffic, there is no other way to get on to a highway. In your example last week, the careful driver still changed lanes over a dozen times. In other words he "cut in front of someone" over a dozen times. The majority of drivers follow too closely just to try to avoid such a crime against themselves.
Try coming off 401 and merging on to the Don Valley Parkway in crowded traffic. A majority of people won't let you in. Once the resultant standoff is over, traffic usually picks up significantly.
How does one combat road rage? When someone wants to change into your lane, invite them to make a safe lane change. That way you'll both feel good, rather than mad.
John Cook
— Posted on February 10, 2007 10:15 AM
After watching your program featuring this charactor coad a few things come to mind.First I don't think you should of spend as much time focusing on this fool.It's obvious he's playing it up for the camera,I'm not doubting that he does drive the way he says he does from time to time but if he drove like this constantly one of a things would of happenned by now.He either wouldn't have a license or he would have so many traffic tickets he'd be impossible to insure.You can't constantly drive aggressive and not have had one of a few things happen like an accident.Ofcourse this fool would say he's to good of a driver and that's why he hasn't caused a major accident but that's just BS because even if he's not the one to start the series of events that lead up tp a major TC poorer or inexpierenced drivers who could'nt get out of the way or get cut off and can't respond quick or well enough to avoid hitting someone else would of caused it.I drive tractor trailer and have to admit doing a foolish thing or two in the heat of the moment but to drive like that constantly is impossible.This guys acting like a wrestler just putting on a big show.Hopefully one day he'll cross my path and want to act like the tough guy like he did in this show and like he's probably done with elderly people or people who he didn't feel offered him any threat,he'll get put in his place real quick.
Chris
— Posted on February 10, 2007 05:41 AM
To 'Anon' from Toronto (two posts above): I'm guessing you meant to say that you thought 80 MPH (and not 80 Km/hr) was a reasonable speed for 400 series highways ... I don't agree.
It took a while, but somebody made the comment that I always expect to hear (but I don't agree with): 'speed doesn't kill' ... but SPEED DIFFERENCE does though.
Lastly, it's interesting to read the comments from those who thought they had to use "anon" as a name (instead of at least using their first name).
... so with a posted speed limit, how much can you exceed it ... 5km, 10km, 15km, 20km, 10% ? Ask 5 people the question, you'll get 6 different answers! So before we talk about changing a speed limit because nobody is following the current speed limit, FOLLOW THE CURRENT LIMIT! Do you really think that by increasing the speed limit, that more people would follow it ... NOT! This is the type of logic that I expect from my teenager (and not from a responsible adult): I'm always late coming home because my curfew is too early ... make it later and I PROMISE I'll be more responsible and come home on time ...
So, if everybody DID follow the posted speed limit (whatever it is - not whatever you THINK it should be), then the left lane (of a multilane highway) could be used safely by those people trying to maintain the speed limit to get around those vehicles that are not physically able to maintain the posted speed (eg, trucks going up hill, campers, cars with trailers, etc) ... what a novel idea! As it is now, trying to drive the speed limit means being confined to the right lane, behind any slower moving vehicles, because using the left hand passing lane means having to accelerate to at least 15-25 km/hr over the speed limit (on the 400 series) and even then having to be very careful to not "cut off" those owners of the left lane who are allowed to drive 25-30 km/hr over the speed limit...!?
Yup, speed doesn't kill (on the 400 series highways), it's the DIFFERENCE in speeds between the vehicles that kills: slow moving cars vice fast moving cars. So how do we make all cars move the same speed ... how about posting a speed limit ... and following it!?
... But the autobahn doesn't have a posted limit ... I don't think you can compare our 400 series highways to the autobahn. Our (higher) traffic density combined with (much shorter) on/off ramps just don't compare ... therefore we NEED a speed limit to regulate traffic flow.
So once we show that we can follow the posted speed limit, why not increase it ... 'cause cars are designed to go fast and we feel that you can handle it? Well, if you believe that reducing 'speed difference' is the key, then we need to set a speed limit that the majority of vehicles can safely maintain given the traffic density. I can't see how increasing the speed limit would reduce the speed difference. 100 km/hr seems reasonable to me.
Happy driving!
Joe Doucet Trenton
— Posted on February 10, 2007 12:16 AM
Any Canadian who has driven in Europe quickly learns that the left lane on motorways is for passing only, NOT just for taking up space. Rather than a honking horn, however, one gets the headlight flash - a much more polite, but pointed reminder to get over to the right, where we belong.
Since I have to have my car "environmentally certified" every two years, why don't I have to take a drivers' tests at least every five? With a refresher course on how to drive safely, perhaps. Sure it would require more testers, but just think of the fees the government could charge for that!
There are only a few remaining sections of Ontario's 400 series highways where one can actually exceed the speed limit, due to traffic congestion. I happen to live near one, and have often wondered if the aggressive driving I've seen is the result of some doofus all excited about being able to actually drive 60KM over the speed limit without encountering three blocked lanes of traffic in front of him.
When there were cameras on Highway 400 north of Toronto several years ago, my impression was that the average speed was about 110-115km/hr. Now its easily 120+, with much heavier traffic. Lets raise the minimum speed to 110 and put the cameras back on the road. Perhaps Sgt. Wooley would not have to be as busy...
Rae Ontario
— Posted on February 9, 2007 11:32 PM
The segment featuring the hyper-aggressive driving habits of Bob Code serve to remind us of the laxness of our criminal justice system. People like him are totally irresponsible behind the wheel and when the severity of his driving violations are considered, his license should be suspended and his vehicle impounded. But this is Canada and until he kills someone, next to nothing will be done. I'm not talking strictly about this individual since there are many others in this category. The Americans seem willing to come down much harder on dangerous drivers than we do in this country. When I was in Phoenix two years ago, a case came to court involving a driver responsible for a freeway pileup that killed three people. He had been travelling 110 mph at the time, and his blood-alcohol reading was over double the limit. He was sentenced to 16 years in prison. In Canada I doubt if he'd get more than 16 months. So unless provincial and municipal governments are willing to take sterner measures against such road menaces, the highways will become increasingly hazardous, especially if the number of overall drivers continues to increase and new road construction can't keep up the pace.
Edward Katz Winnipeg
— Posted on February 9, 2007 08:52 PM
Dear Gillian,
on February 07,2007 I watched your program regarding Roadrage. I have a drivers licence since 1982, which I obtained in Germany. Over there, as you know, they have the Autobahn with no speed limit. I personally have driven legally over 250 km/h. However, before I received my drivers licence I had to learn a lot more regarding driving behavior, rules, defensive driving technics etc. than any canadian driver.
It is unbelievable and frightening to have a driver like Bob Coad, having been on Canada's worse drivers in 2006, going through the training and than reappearing on your program in 2007, doing exactly the same thing, such as 80 km over the speedlimit, cutting in and out of traffic, tailgating, hitting the brakes and endangouring other drivers on purpose. What amazed me even more was his attitude regarding our justice system. He totally disrespects law and order and behaves like a "Gladiator" of our highways, does not care about the life of anybody else (is constantly looking to get involved into a feast fight, like he mentioned in your video). My question is after you have shown your video to the Sergant Cam Woolley and you have provided him with the evidence in form of a video tape, with his own statement (Bob Coad) is the OPP finally going to do their job to charge him and is the justice system in this country going to take his drivers licence away for life ? (with his driving behavior he would have lost his driving priviliges for life in Germany, also he would have to pay an substantial amount in fines - in short, he would be a permanent TTC rider).
It is outragous that in the incident with the truck and the van that one driver received 3 years and served only 17 months and the other driver 5 years. Two innocent victims will never walk again, the Lady is in constant pain and has lost part of her memories and life goes on for the offenders. I would highly CBC recommend to investigate, if such an incident would have happened in Germany, what the consequences would have been, because there justice is not "blind" and the offenders would have paid for life - the same like their victims.
I hope, our police and justice system wake up and smell the blood of the victims, by eliminating driving priviliges from the"Roadbullis" and turning them into permanent public transportation customers.
Michael Mississauga
— Posted on February 9, 2007 07:18 PM
I think it is far too easy to get and retain a driver's licence in Canada. I can't say how many times I have either sat too long or have almost been hit at a four way stop because other drivers don't know the rules on who has the right of way. Similarly, people who travel for kilometres in passing lane, blocking traffic because they eventually need to turn left at some point, contribute enormously to the conditions that lead to road rage. These are just two examples of many that I could go on and on about.
I would like to see much stricter testing standards to obtain a licence and periodic testing to ensure that licenced drivers still know the rules of the road. Television programs like "Canada's Worst Driver" make the need for stricter regulation obvious. If I went out swinging a 2x4 as carelessly as many drivers, I would be arrested; so why aren't bad drivers who carelessly wield a weapon of several tons?
Was this Coad character for real or just a joke that 5th estate is trying to get a reaction from ?
Hard to believe that a neanderthal like that could for real.
Nice try !!
R Peterson Burlington,Ont
— Posted on February 9, 2007 04:45 PM
To Wolf Muench:
YOU are a prime example of why our roads are so dangerous.
YOU think it's ok to drive 100mph
YOU think the rules are not meant for YOU
YOU think YOU own the road
YOU think YOU are the perfect driver.
Cut the C**P!
A few things to consider as you terrorize others with your overpowered zoom-zoom:
YOU cannot react any faster than anyone else to situations around you.
YOU cannot slow down or stop any faster than anyone else, and in fact when you are going too fast, it takes you longer than everyone else to stop.
YOU are not above the law.
YOU are dangerous. Period.
When you have your accident, I hope it's with a tractor trailer and not a family on vacation.
By the way - please don't visit Ottawa - our roads are dangerous enough without you.
John
— Posted on February 9, 2007 04:26 PM
All in all, a topic worth discussing and exposing. I have some trouble with you being an accomplice to this Bob Coad's criminality. Are you taking measures to forward all of your evidence to the police? Or are you not responsible for any damage this moron does, especially now that you have made him a star? Pathetic. It is not pretty to see you behave as if you are morally superior in this matter, and not tell us the proper punchline: The amount of time this criminal will spend behind bars.
Pete Ontario
— Posted on February 9, 2007 03:12 PM
While I haven't had a chance to read all of the comments, nor have i had a chance to watch the show, i do have a few things to say.
First of all, I will admit that I suffer from road rage on occasion. I do tend to drive faster than the speed limit when conditions allow, and i will use my horn as it should be used, to alert other drivers to my presence when appear not to see me.
The other day I honked at a van after i signaled, checked my blind spot, and changed lanes. he was about to come into the lane and hit me. For preventing an accident, all i got from him was the finger.
To the commenter above who said that 80 km/h was a reasonable speed on the 400 highways, I agree. So do the OPP. They've reccomended the speed limit be raised a number of times, yet our society is fixed on the concept that speed kills. Tires, brakes, traction control and cars in general have gotten better and better, yet the speed limit was set with larger, heavier cars with worse brakes. speed limits need to reflect the reality of our roads. I fully agree that we need better driving standards, the lack of skill and lack of attention to driving most people display is truely frightening.
For all of us, if you find driving so hard and so scary that you are unable to keep up with traffic, unable to merge safely, do the world a favor and don't drive.
Anon Toronto
— Posted on February 9, 2007 02:35 PM
When I was driving in a small town, I experienced no ragers, as everyone knew everyone else & the RCMP would quickly talk to you if you were an idiot. Most rage is founded on the belief that someone has deliberately offended you, when in reality they probably had a blind spot.
I was almost killed last year by a guy I'd never met who chased me for 20+minutes. The police, when I called it in, authorized me to use deadly force if the fellow, who had threatened me several times and used his vehicle as a weapon, tried to enter my residence. The result? After discussing with the police, he had no priors, was a family man, and had a bad day - mistaking me for someone else. I let him off without charges. Like others, I don't drive as much as I used to due to lack of common sense on the roads.
Also, I drive a highly modified musclecar, & if the previous incident had happened with that vehicle, well it wouldn't have happened - I'd have the power to get well out of his way.
My father told me something when I bought the car. "It has enough power to save your life, and enough power to kill you. Respect it". Maybe all these "safe" systems leads to false driver confidence?
Pete Winnipeg
— Posted on February 9, 2007 01:58 PM
I commute everyday to Mississauga, driving along the 401. My opinion is that the root of road rage lies with people who do 100 km/h and less in the passing lane. To sit in the passing lane while others are passing on the right smacks of entitlement, and that provokes dangerous behaviour. In Europe, the passing lane is respected. In addition, there are many people who change lanes into others without even looking. I've had to lean on my horn many times to avoid being hit. Keep right except to pass, don't slam on your brakes on black ice, and do a shoulder check before you change lanes.
R Niechcial Kitchener
— Posted on February 9, 2007 01:49 PM
I felt that Coad received a lot of airtime and attention as he spouted his views, and therefore positive reinforcement of his attitudes. It was as though road rage was being showcased and glorified. It did however give us a glimpse into the mind of not a so-called road warrior but a common thug. The perfect ending would have been his unsurance company cutting him off as a customer and him being blacklisted for insurance anywhere.
Anne Kingston
— Posted on February 9, 2007 12:04 PM
I recall seeing Bob Coad from the other show a couple of years ago and being amazed that he drove the way that he did on film. I saw this show and was incensed that he still has his licence. As an officer patrolling the highways of Alberta I cannot fathom how this man still has his licence. I hope that there will be an outcry from the people of Ontario that will get the video from CBC to the OPP or the Crown to get this maniac a Criminal Code charge for Dangerous Driving. The footage from this broadcast and the prior show would prove an unchanging pattern of behaviour, I would hope that a court would grant a driving prohibition.
A note for the fellow who could drive 100 all day long and says that "80 is a good safe speed", you are deluded, if you were the only vehicle on the road, it still wouldn't be a good idea. I suggest that you volunteer with a Victim's unit of a police force so that you can see how many times we have to notify the family of someone who has come into contact with someone who feels that their skills and/or vehicles are superior. Nine NASCAR drivers have died in recent years, these are drivers with proven skills, on a closed course, without distractions, vehicles of the same size and power, and all going the same way ... please slow down and keep your rage in check, you are allowed to be frustrated, just don't act on it.
Anon
— Posted on February 9, 2007 02:17 AM
At the end of the day you will find thaty the common denomionator in Id say 99% of all road rage incidents, the accosted or subject of the road rage did something really ignorant , dangerous or antisocial in their driving.
I'm on thee road almost every day in the lower mainland and "most" people driving expensive fast cars do not know first , basic road skills second, the boundarys of their vehicle and last and most importantly ,in this very conjested set of roadways, "just plain courtesy".
I teat anybody on the road who cut me off ,as I would treat someone in a supermarket if they stuck their elbow in my ribs and took the lead in the queue,"badly!!!!"
I spend probably half my time on the road avoiding or indeed preventing accidents.
If just a few others would try the same ,things could be different!
After we finish with this topic lets open anther "hot" topic ,suicidal pedestrians!
I used to love to drive, but now find it to be a chore. People used to drive with courtesy, now it is everyone for himself. If I leave a safe distance between myself and the car ahead you have people jumping into that safe space. Tailgating is epidemic. My car stays parked most of the time, and have chosen my abode based on how much driving do I have to do. The price of fuel is not stopping me from driving, it is the behaviour of other drivers.
While watching your show last evening, I noted with horror that Bob Coad lives in Guelph - where my daughter is currently enrolled at University. That means that she is routinely sharing the road with this maniac as she has her own car and travels back and forth from Richmond Hill almost every week. She is still a fairly new driver and I fear that she may unintentionally do something to spark his crazed anger. I doubt very much that she would have the skill to fend him off.
To the OPP: Please take this man off the road. You have more than sufficient evidence of his criminal behaviour.
What does it say about traffic law enforcement and the licencing system in general when a guy like Bob can drive for decades the way he does with virtual impunity. I meet a dozen or so Bob's everyday on my way to and from work, which unfortunately has degraded over the years to a cross between Darwin's survival of the fittest and Sun Tzu's Art of War.
To add insult to injury, I was a road safety practitioner for over ten years and helped establish programs in both BC (the ads you dispayed on your show were the ones my team and I helped conceive and produce) and Manitoba. In my opinion, the GTA is in serious need of targeted, consistent enforcement through the use of properly applied technology in combination with conventional enforcement. To ask officers to effectively patrol the roads the same way they did 40 years ago is simply an ineffective waste of taxpayer dollars. And until such time as this happens, the Highway Traffic Act will be nothing more than a suggestion book that largely goes ignored.
On the plus side, more media attention on this issue is always welcome.
Paul Allen
Paul Allen Toronto
— Posted on February 8, 2007 06:39 PM
Bob Code is a clear and present danger to himself and others and should be removed from the road and barred from operating a motor vehicle. We need stronger laws to keep drives like Bob in check.
Anonymous
— Posted on February 8, 2007 06:34 PM
Mr Coad may think highly of his driving skills but I wasn't impressed. It seems that he doesn't even know that he should signal lane changes. The last thing that our busy roads need is another guy with a huge ego, a chip on his shoulder and a hair trigger temper. This guy needs to be taken off of the road a soon as possible. His right to drive should not outweigh someone's right to live. He is a ticking timebomb. If the only way to defuse him is to restrict his driving than that should be done immediately.
I enjoyed the program on road rage - found it informative and enlightening.
My only comment - Was the host really recording, speaking to a camera while she drove? Talk about a distracted driver! I'm sure Sgt Cam Woolley would no more approve of that than he does reading, eating, or applying makeup while driving.
It may seem an effective tool to grab our attention, but please, keep your eyes on the road, and pull over to the studio parking lot if you are producing a documentary!
Jan Ontario
— Posted on February 8, 2007 05:20 PM
I won't even get into the discussion regarding the egostictical star of the show, I think he was a paid actor otherwise he has serious problems.
I would like to see all these distractions taken away from drivers, cell phones, dictaphones etc:
When driving you don't have to turn to your passenger to talk to them keep your eyes on the road.
Use your turn signals.
Don't drive fast you may think you are in control but does your vehicle know, mechanical problems are the cause of many accidents.
One last mention to truckers, don't speed especally in the snow. Put the books and magazines away as you're driving, oh yes it's quite commonplace and don't tail gate it's idiotic.
Lets all respect other drivers and make the driving test harder so that drivers do have the experience and knowledge for todays roads.
I was about to say “wow, totally unbelievable that such mindless people exists” but having done a quick reality check sadly it is all too normal and the trend of present day. Several years ago I wrote the Minister of Transportation to alert him of this growing problem. I suggested there is a fundamental problem where we the current licensing system you can apply for a driver’s license as young as 17; once you jump through the hoops of graduated licensing you are not required to be tested for knowledge nor driving skills again until the age of 80.
To my surprise his Deputy Minister for Road Safety replied saying basically there is no problem and they exercise the best practice, that is “catch and fine” the drivers. As noted in your story, Constable Woley alluded to the lack of resource (traffic officers to drivers ratio) and the various ways that fines can be circumvented in the court system. In comparison to your story my video of events I capture is tame compared to asinine Road Warrior Bob Coad. It is petrifying to think there are people like Bob out there on the road thinking they own the road, they are judge and jury to other drivers and they can drive with impunity. How in the world can someone of this mindset be allowed to walk the streets let alone retain his license to operate a vehicle? If indeed this is his mindset then I ask what other psychotic thoughts is this idiot capable of? I am extremely concerned and especially for the safety of his wife and children who live with this thing day in day out.
Anonymous Ontario
— Posted on February 8, 2007 04:39 PM
Quite a show......I am sure we have all run across drivers like Mr. Coad, possibly not as extreme but nonetheless such arrogance...or is it stupidity!
To all those that wrote in stating reasons as to why they get road rage due to other drivers poor driving skills, slow speed, etc....come on....are you for real? There is one person in control of your vehicle and how you react to situations......yourself! Unfortunately you have never learned self-control! Although it is always easier to blame the other guy.
Instead of making vehicles safer, maybe we should modify all vehicles so there are absolutely no safety features that make us feel invincible.....if we knew that nothing was protecting us I am willing to bet that we would drive a bit differently. (Of course I am not serious).
I almost feel sorry for Mr. Coad, as it is sad to see someone so totally absorbed in themselves that they have no respect for those around them, not even his family as he submits them to his driving adventures. Hopefully Mr. Coad will never cause any harm to himself, his family, or others.
Stu Calgary
— Posted on February 8, 2007 03:31 PM
Wow! Watching this show last night, certainly made me think on my drive into work today.
This Bob fellow is just angry at the world and needs some serious help. To put his own family and children (let alone everyone else on the road) at risk is selfish behaviour. Hopefully, when he gets in his accident (and he definitely will at some point) his children are not in the car and he doesn't kill other people.
anonymous BC
— Posted on February 8, 2007 03:27 PM
I have seen several incidents of Road Rage by others,
both in London, Toronto, and Sudbury. It seems to me that some people seem to get unreasonably angry when they lose control over the situation, such as being stopped at a red light or in a traffic jam and it seems to me that they have no patience at alland no coping mechanisms.... I do a lot of highway and city driving and I have most definitely seen a marked increase in the incidence of aggressive driving in the 35 years that I have been driving...personally when I get annoyed by aggressive and careless drivers that seem to have no regard for other people, I may mildly curse them to myself, but that's the end of it...even if I'm late, I resign myself to the fact that I would rather arrive alive, than not arrive at all.... and that's what I've tried to instill in my children, who are both drivers now themselves...
I appreciated the show that aired last night. it was very clear to me that Bob, although a "professional" driver, he nonetheless is a very angry, controlling individual himself...and I wouldn't want to get in his way... I liked the idea that police should have the authority to relieve people of their licenses on the spot(suspensions). It could save many lives...
HI, I watched your show last night on Road Rage. I don't have a story but I am a driver and have been driving for 30 years, and I use to drive in the fast lane in Ottawa on the Qeensway, at 120km an hour, and I wasn't afraid of it, I use to drive a van, and since I now drive a GMC JIMMY, I drive in the slow lane unless I need to pass someone, but I always go back into the slow lane. I am so sick of drivers riding up on my bumper, honking at me, that I decided the slow lane is safer for me. I am at the point where I am actually afraid of driving on the Qeensway, people drive way to fast, and they are crazy. I am not a perfect driver, however, I value my life and the life of my daughter. Cathy Rollit
Amazing!
First of all I realize there is a Bob in Alberta, but I am sure glad that one is in Ontario.
For all of the comments on the high rate of speed for the left lane, originally this lane was for passing not to create a speedway, when you speed at these excessive rates in this lane an people need to change lanes to pass, many are not expecting someone (perhaps Bob) to be comming at a high rate of speed making this simple traffic movement the most dangerous part of thier lives. Seniors and new drivers especially have limitations when it comes to this judgement.
My last comment is that I really feel the police have a significant role to play in why people act the way they do. The lack of enforcement for the little things compounds. What was once a 5km/h lieway has become a 15km/h lieway. No signal lights, tinted windows, no mufflers, telivisions in cars and excesivly loud stereos. Perhaps they need to get back to the basics and start with the basics, pull them over when they are speeding 10km/h over. The rules are not because your car (as one writter indicated) can travel 100mph, its because there is all levels of drivers on the road!!!!
Withheld Edmonton
— Posted on February 8, 2007 01:54 PM
After viewing your program last evening on road rage, I was frustrated! I felt the shows celebrity was Mr. Coad! Interviewing this man took up a large amount of the program! His previously fed ego was heightened. Envision, after all the years exercising road rage, he was finally rewarded; Mr. Coad made it on television again! In my opinion there ought to have been additional time given to the victims and a lesser amount of time feeding this man's ego! Ms. Finley might have been more assertive in her interview with him. I recall when the Fifth Estate asked challenging questions, putting individuals like Mr. Coad in their place; there was no opportunity for smiles and niceties.
Glenna
— Posted on February 8, 2007 01:17 PM
Yes, Bob is arrogant maniac that should be taken off the road, but are we all that perfect. I think there are bad drivers and they are not always Bob. I think people like Bob are exceptions and you can't blame all accidents on guys like him. They will get in trouble because of their arrogance not lack of skills as the driving instructor said. I let guys like that just go by and watch my driving, especially those in big trucks or SUVs, inherently trying to show their muscle without any understanding of laws of physics.
Here are some good comments from other e-mails and some of my frustrations: you don't own the road (neither you nor Bob, nor because you own big SUV or truck and small Volvo would be no match for you), let faster drivers pass you, don't block the left lane, keep up with the traffic, don't talk on the cell phone (or eat breakfast or do your make up) while you are driving, use signal lights before you turn not when you are already turning, don't turn left from right lane, learn how to merge (adjust your speed to the traffic you are merging into), and I am sure there would be less accidents and road rage.
I love your shows and have a suggestion. Maybe Fifth Estate should do a show about driver training, driver etiquette, and speed (seems to be the center of enforcement) versus motor vehicle accidents, injuries and deaths in Canada, and compare it to some other countries. Because it is very surprising to me to find (from your link to IRTAD ) that there is less deaths and injuries on the road in Germany than in Canada, especially if you consider number of vehicles and speeds that are allowed in Germany.
I watched the beginning of the show last night and was astounded with the guy who proceeded cut off a semi truck because he felt he was being cut off. But the view I took was that there was plenty of room for the truck to move in to his lane. Then he went in front of the truck and hit the brakes. What a moron. That is exactly how jack knifes happen. As mentioned before, who insures this guy and now we know why all of our insurance has gone through the roof.
Trucks take a long time to speed up and should be given every opportunity to merge in traffic, even if you have to slow down. Every one needs to respect the roads and more importantly respect each other.
Bob Coad,
You may think you are the worlds best driver but if you are such an expert then surely you must know that there are a lot of bad, inexperienced and unskilled drivers out there. Even Mario Andretti said that driving on the road scares him, because there are so many unskilled drivers.
Now, what if one day you are cut off by not a bad driver but an unskilled driver who didn’t realize what they did?
You think they meant it and pull off one of your little jumping on the brakes trick. Well this unskilled driver panics, slams on the brakes and loses control at highway speeds and innocent lives are lost.
Do you want to live with that on your conscious?
I’m not saying you don’t have skills behind the wheel and I know you think 20 years of driving proves it. However, the truth behind people who brag that they have been driving for X number of years without an accident, is that sure they may have some skill but they also have been very lucky hundreds of times and one day that luck will wear out.
Please try and grow up to become a man with strength of mind and will to control your own emotions and not be controlled by the actions of others.
Cam Waterloo
— Posted on February 8, 2007 11:54 AM
Mr. Coad has some serious issues. I can understand the frustration we face each day on our roads, but who sets out to "play" with other people while driving.
This goes beyond Road Rage.
Mr. Coad needs some seroius counselling.
Mr. Coad is trageting people. He is a danger to not only ALL drivers on the road, but to his family.
What a frightening attitude!
Patricia Toronto
— Posted on February 8, 2007 11:45 AM
There is a website called "platewire(dot)com", click on the Canadian flag and you can read about, or register dangerous drivers.
C. Lauder Toronto
— Posted on February 8, 2007 10:35 AM
My ex-husband is a very aggressive driver and one day as we came to a 4-way stop outside our apartment bldg., a well dressed middle aged man in a red volvo stationwagon took our turn at the 4-way. My husband became enraged, flipped him the bird, and followed him on a street parallel to the one on which the volvo was driving and tried to catch up with him. All the while our 1 year old son was in the back in his child seat. The volvo would have been no match for our huge SUV and I begged him to stop. I pointed out to my husband that he was going in the opposite direction to which we were originally headed. I thank heavens he didn't catch up to that volvo. There had been previous similar incidents but I didn't drive with him unless I had to after that and we separated shortly thereafter. My son, now 11 and his father lets him sit in the front seat, has since told me of situations where they have gone after other drivers. Sadly, my son thinks it's fun.
Everytime there is one of these "road rage" stories on TV the journalist doing the story always seems to target the aggresive divers out there. Why is nothing ever said about the drivers who don't follow the other rules of the road when it comes to slower traffic staying right or people not speeding up to properly merge with traffic. When it comes to "owning the road" the media and police always target the people that are driving a little faster than the rest of the cars. Don't get me wrong, excessive speeding isn't right but when drivers are not following a couple of simple signs on highways like "slower traffic stay to the right" or "merge" (most drivers don't know how to properly do this) it is fruterating for the rest of us. Some simple solutions? Driver training should be manditory, learning how to drive from parents and friends is not the best idea when starting out. Also we should have a better graduated driver system. People that are scared to drive at higher speeds should not be allowed to drive on highways until they have the proper training or until they feel comfortable driving at that speed and can do so consistently. People should have to prove they can drive on certian roads.
Also I wish that the CBC (being a Canadian news source) could do a more well rounded story with more that one solution, on the subject rather than put a one sided spin on something that isn't getting any better.
Anonymous Vancouver
— Posted on February 8, 2007 10:16 AM
This show was excellent. Congratulations and thank you very much. Watching this Coad fellow gave me TV rage but it also led to a personal awakening for me. It made me stop and reflect on the frustration and agression I feel on the road (particularly when confronted by Coad-type drivers)and how dangerous these emotions can be/what horrible consequences they can lead to. I plan to reflect seriously on my driving and find a way to step out of this dangerous game of agression and anger on the road. Thanks to you, I don't have to wait for an accident or a fight or something worse to become conscious of how I fit into this dangerous game.
Patrick Fry Ottawa
— Posted on February 8, 2007 10:04 AM
I have a few road rage stories but I won't bore you with them. the real reason why there is road rage
and get ready........"slower traffic does not keep right" and that is why we ragers get into it with
the wannabe speed control cops, people don't mind
thier own bussiness on the road.
and you know who you are you sit in the left lane
on a the 401 passing nobody and when someone comes up
on you you won't pull over to the proper right lane
where you should be just to piss the faster car off
so you are really asking for it you bring it on yourself!
THE SOLUTION......HERE IT IS on our 400 series highways make the leftlane 80mph {given my age away}
centre lane 65mph and the rightlane 60mph and
make the OPP ENFORCE THE RULES if your in the leftlane
not doing 80mph throw the book at them.
I drive an Ifiniti that has 280horse highspeed radials
ABS, Traction control and could safely do 100mph all
fricken day long without a problem, but lets be reasonable 80 is a good safe speed. lets face it
dad used to be allowed to drive 70mph in a old dodge
with used tires and drum bakes come on see what I mean
and lets make people do a test to be in the fast lane
to get your sticker that way you filter out the
the people who are too sacared to do the speed limit in this lane. but the ministry won" do anything because
they are too dense to come up with real solution.
WOLF MUENCH london
— Posted on February 8, 2007 09:31 AM
What an arrogent pig, the driver who was proud of his agressivness. I pray he's alone when his stupidity takes him out, or he meets another as agressive as him.
Good work of Ms. Findlay for calling him out. He wasn't smart enough to answer her basic logic.
Thanks Fifth Estate, great!! work as usual.
J. Mark Detroit
— Posted on February 8, 2007 09:04 AM
Ah, Bob. He's stupid, immature, desperate for attention, and contradicts everything that he says.
Our real hope is that his auto insurance company was watching the program.
Maura Edmonton
— Posted on February 8, 2007 08:45 AM
That lunatic bragging about his driving skills ought to be banned from the roadways. PERMANENTLY! As for the others immediate license suspension for reckless driving is in order.
Oigen Montreal
— Posted on February 8, 2007 07:58 AM
First of all let me say what a great piece on road rage. I hope there are more programs like this that expose what a dangrerous thing it is to be angry and behind the wheel of a two ton weapon.
I'll admit that when I first recieved my drivers license when I was 16 I was an aggressive driver. That all ended when I was confronted in a mall parking lot by a very large man who was the husband of a woman that I was tailgating aggressively a few days earlier. Scince that day I have been a lot more patient behind the wheel.
There needs to be a lot of changes to laws, roads, regulations, insurance companies, government, police, training, society, and attitudes before the situation will get better. and before any of that happens, road rage is going to get a lot worse as more cars and people are put on the road.
Cody
— Posted on February 8, 2007 06:12 AM
Notice that Bob code (the "expert" driver) didn't use his signal light?
hello!
i`ve been working as a truck driver for a little
more than 5 years now, but let me tell you that
the first year was a complete nightmare.
people cutting me off in their cars, and me, behind
the wheel of a monster that weight 60 000 pounds,
sweathing bullets triying not to crush anybody to death.
after being involved in a serious accident, i had to
think about my future as a truck driver, over the top
stress and lack of sleep became too much for me to handle. i decided to "keep on truking" because i love
that job, now, if there`s a "road rager" crossing my path, i`ll try my best to stay away from him and if he
end`s up flat as a pancake under my truck, well, that`s
his problem, i dont want to die or kill an innocent
driver because of lunatic like that 20 year veteran
of stupidity i saw on your broadcast, ron, or is it don,
i cannot remember his name but the only thing i know he`s gonna die in a car crash sooner or later, let`s just hope he doesnt kill any innocent drivers.
thank you.
ROAD WARRIORS
To Bob Code. When you think you are the best driver in the world it is time for you to hang up your Keys.
If you keep up your aggressive driving you will kill your
self or a love one. I predict if you do not change the way
you drive you will have a unfortunate event. and it will be a love one that will be the victim.
I was stunned & amazed to watch your road rage program Wednesday evening.In fact I shut it off before it was over so don't know the result. There is something seriously wrong in our society when a deviant like Bob Coad is allowed to have a drivers license. I truly hope the program ended with two burly cops escorting him to the local mental health clinic & using his many class license for target practice.
No kidding.
Ebu Gogo Canada
— Posted on February 8, 2007 01:04 AM
I was amazed to hear all of the "road rage" stories from fellow Canadian drivers. Motorists like Bob Code, who was featured often in your show, should be taken off the road permanently. He is mortally dangerous, and even more scary, he seems completely unaware of his stupidity. He should never be allowed to drive his children. The only good that can come from his example to them, is that he has shown them how NOT to behave. I'm frightened to be on the road with anyone who is so out of control and ignorant. Unfortunately, Mr. Code, and drivers like him put all of our lives in danger everyday.
I'm scared to drive in small town Manitoba because of people with road rage. People should calm down, they will get to where they are going. If they're in a rush to get there, they should have left earilier. I have never honked my horn at someone, gave the finger, or anything like that. To release my anger, I talk it out in my car by myself. And I have a serious anger problem...I guess I realize that losing your temper behind the wheel is like losing your temper with a loaded gun!!!
Genna Manitoba
— Posted on February 8, 2007 12:27 AM
This fellow Road Rage Bob Koad needs to have his license revoked permantly. He is your Classic Idiot on the road believing he controls everything around him while he's behind the wheel. What is even more mind boggling is the evidence The Fifth Estate has on film and the Police won't do anything about this accident waiting to happen. I guess it's going to take the death's of innocent people before any action is taken against this menace on the road.
Rob Marson
Calgary, AB.
The left lane is for passing or faster traffic, there are signs but alot of people disregard it.
Anonymous
— Posted on February 7, 2007 11:34 PM
I have noticed a marked deterioration in civility in driving in Kitchener-Waterloo in just over 4 years that I have lived here. This city is growing fast and more and more cars are on streets and roads that are not equipped to handle the volume. The impatience and stupidity level are absolutely amazing here. I meet up with at least one idiot every day and usually more. There is tailgating, total disregard for speed limits even in school zones, and running yellow and red lights with impunity. I had a driver lay on his horn and shake a fist at me one day because I did not proceed through the intersection on a left turn when the light had turned red. Every other person seems to be yakking on a cell phone and holding a cup of coffee in the other and are on their way to a very important appointment that transcends in importance anyone else's reason for using the road. On slick, slippery wintry streets I still have people right on my tail who would not be able to stop if they had to. I expect to get rear-ended this winter. The emergency vehicles seem to be out on the roads every 5 minutes. I used to be an agresstive driver to the degree that I am ashamed of past behavior. I have been leaving my anger out of the equation when I am driving and making a concerted effort to drive according to road rules and conditions. I feel like I don't have much company.
My daughter recently earned her G2. She is 17. As she was learning to drive, I noticed her applying skills, techniques and knowledge of traffic rules that are unheard of and unused in the daily experience I have on the roads. I commented to her how sad it is that young people take driver's ed and learn how to drive properly only to get out on the roads and have to set their own rules like other drivers in order to survive on the road. That aggressive driver featured on the show is a scary individual but he is by no means alone in his arrogance, incivility, and danger that he poses. He has plenty of company. There are days when I would not mind turning in my driver's license. I am not mean enough, it seems, to be out there.
I was a victim of road rage late in 2006. Being 2007 Feb it wasn't too far back. There was an instance of road rage on the way to work. I drive a civic 1.5 liter that ways less then 1800 kg And was hit by a hummer. You do the math. This started in a quiet part of cote-st-luc where this guy with no respect of life or law decided to rear end me at over 60km/h in a 30km/h school zone. He ran a stop singe to be able to do this completely destroying my rear hatch and causing me to lose three days of work and 2 weeks use of my car. Yes insurance may have paid for an half ass-ed job for my car to be returned but it's not the same, plus the fact that no damage what so ever happened to the hummer. Besides the fact that I lost days off work and my car for almost 2 weeks I was left thinking that if I was to pull the guy out and kick the crape out of him I'd be more satisfied. Being African American when the cops finally arrived they just laughed like it was a joke. These are the same cops that work for commmity relations then they treat me like I was a joke. They didn't bother taking a report just hustle me off to the hospital. After a series of x-rays and hours of waiting I was allowed to go home. All this because of an ass that took the law into his own hands and in my eyes the law allowing him to and in turn I think about if it happens again I won't be so subtle.I tried to be the reasonable one when I gave up my position and even turned off of the road it all begane to only be chased downed and crased into. If there is ever a next time which I hope to god not I will not hold back.What that may lead too takes only the next ass too cross me cause the law is a joke when comes to certain things. That I have learned and trust me next time they will listen.
I haven't even finished watching the show and I already have to comment. It's time like this I do not mind one bit living in a smaller rural area, actually a little proud of it.
Let's just remember a few things:
you do not own the road
you are not the center of the universe
you are not that important over all other drivers
take the bus and get another car off the road
give yourself more time and take some B stress vitamins
just because someone gave you a licence and you are behind the wheel does not make you invincible, safe, or right.
I will preface this response by stating that I have never written to any media outlet regarding a story. I enjoyed the program for exposing the outcome of Road Rage. I hope that it will make people think before reacting in a reckless manner when they get behind the wheel. I am no different than most drivers on the road and have done stupid things when I felt infringed upon by other less than "perfect" drivers.
The question that kept coming to mind, as I watched Mr. Coad, was, who is willing to insure this man? With the number of traffic violations the cost for his insurance must be astronomical. I hope for his own safety and for all of us on the road, he will change his driving habits.
Thank you for allowing me to respond to your program.
While many road ragers may think that they are able to drive faster and are more skilfull at driving than others on the road, they do not realise that those others may not have the same reaction time and skills as they do. Someone who is driving carefully and responsibly and within legal limits can suddenly be overtaken by another aggressive driver resulting in panic and poor judgment on the part of both drivers. It's no wonder we have such spectacular accidents occuring on our highways.
Having just watched the program, and Mr. Coad's videotaped confessions and evidence of his behaviour, I hope that the OPP is able to remove his menace from our roadways before he seriously injures or kills someone...if he has not already done so. Unfortunately the program may have fed his ego even more.
It is too late after someone is killed. Remove his driving privileges while there is time. It might be you or your family that he decides to play with next.
Hopefully at a minimum, the Insurance companies will flag his name and deny him coverage.
Rod Newfoundland
— Posted on February 7, 2007 09:02 PM