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Fort McMurray Rap Sheet
Four other murders in Fort McMurray, Alta. -- including Abdinasir Dirie -- dating back to 2008 of young men from Toronto remain unsolved. So far, this is all the information the RCMP has released: |
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His parents came to Canada to build a new life. He made the choice to be involved in importing drugs. If you want to live dangerously, then you die dangerously. I feel for his parents.
I watched your program on PROFUNC this Friday. It was ironic to hear "communists" speaking out against surveillance. Surveillance is synonymous with communism. In Canada they may have been under surveillance, in a communist state they would have been incarcerated or even shot dead.
Ameria where do you are from yourself with a name like that.
Cut the crap go back to where ur from no one needs your bulls***.. if ur gonna take ishh !
I have sympathy for the Somali families who have lost a member. What I don't have is understanding about how you can blame the police force???? Take a look in the mirror. I just read about Edmonton's 25th murder & how it also may go unsolved because no one will come forth with information. Why are so many Somalians involved in high risk activity? If you are going to blame the police force, the government, and Canada, you could always go back to Somalia :)
I just want to say that my family lived in Jamestown during the 70's to the 90's and and we all have become successful productive people! Yes it was crime ridden and yes it had it's problems but what we had there was a close community! Distrust amongst a community always causes tensions! Believe me I have nothing but fond memories of living there!
are you kidding?? give me a break. just because the police cant solve these murders now its a conspiracy? try going into your own community and applying pressure to those who have info that will help solve these crimes and possibly bust up the gangs. look to your communities flaws and faults before casting about for others to blame.
don't blame alberta or canada for the mistakes and choices these young somali's are making. and dont complain about the police if the community doesnt step up and cooperate and land some convictions or report some tips at the very least. It is so crazy with all the murders in the news that alone is not stopping and scaring more young somali's from going to alberta just to sell drugs. The somali community must do more to support the system and not expect everything to happen for them.
best comment i have read so far and agreed with you 100% i too come to albert to look for better life but i didnt take the easy way i chose to do the 9=5 instead of the easy fast money. For all the somalia families liked or not you part of this canadian cutlture which you guys choose for us so please acepted
While I find this story interesting and my thoughts go out to the family of these children, I find the reporter's comment on the two girls naiveness to be naive in itself. They didn't tell anyone where they where going and I seriously doubt any drug running operation is stupid enough to hide drugs in fish to be carried through customs. I think this reporter needs to understand that most modern young woman lie about and are unrepentant about everything. I personally do not believe their shabby story as I'm sure anyone who gives a little thought about it would.
As heartbreaking as this is for the families of these young men, anyone who gets involved in the illegal drug trade is taking a knife to a gun fight. We know that it is lucrative but with that money comes a lot of violence. To avoid being killed just stay away from drugs and go get a job at Tim Horton's or go to university, get educated and be a contributing member of society. There are a lot of caucasians who are involved in the drug trade that end up dead also.
As for the two girls in prison in Jamaica....most young people live with their parents, go to school (university, college) do their homework, respect the rules of the house and stay out of trouble. You are in the minority that want to live on the wild side and with that comes consequences. If something (i.e. an all expense paid trip) seems too good to be true....that is because it usually has some underlying issue. Stay away from such offers. The police advise against such "deals" all the time. Maybe other young people will learn from your mistakes and stay home, study, and do something productive with their lives. Those of you that get yourselves into trouble are in the minority.
Very well documented story. It really put Abdenazir and his sister and family in a good light. The unfortunate truth is that he was involved in a serious drug trade, out of his territory, and he was a nice guy who probably trusted people, the wrong people. I think his friend who left for food set him up. Three hours to go get food in the wee hours of the morning? Oh yes that makes perfect sense.
As for the sister, come on, who is she kidding? Obviously not the Jamaican judge. She probably thought with her angelic little face she could one-up her brother and show off once she got it home. It looks to me like someone set her up to get caught. Come on, fish? "It's just fish". Do you know how much that would stink and tip off customs that she's concealing marijuana (giggle giggle)?
Do you think dealers would be that stupid? Someone wanted these kids dead and out of site and the girls know it. It's why they won't say who sent them, and it's why they're willing to due 10 years. Look at the facts: she gets busted in Jamaica, then a few days later dad gets the phone call that Ab is dead. It's just a regular day in organized crime-ville.
Bless you for being a responsible person. Everything you have written should be made into a manual for single and/or struggling parents everywhere.
It's responsible parents like you that make this world a better place for tomorrow. We as humans have choice, and we must be responsible with our choices and actions. Thank you for writing this.
I know, and why doesn't CBC question that. It sounds to me like his friend set him up. Where did he go to get the food that it took three hours? I
So...if I understand correctly...they immigrated to Canada to escape from the violence, death, and destruction in their native country. In turn, their child voluntarily gets involved in the drug trade seeking power, and money by way of illegal drugs, and violence. Got it, I'm all caught up.
somaliya
What the police and the media must stop doing is depicting these murders as drug related incidents when in regards to the case their is no clear evidence showing that they are related. they must stopping blamming and start solving, its kinda embarassing for any law inforcement to have 31 unsolved murders all from the same youth status and ethnicity, or can be that its as if the alberta police system has arranged for these cases to be unsolved. further more the media is rediculously based towards the side against solving these case these people who died might have been different ethnic backround but all are still canadian citizens just like you and I and have the right to justice.And as long as I live i would not rest until justice is resolved in the case of belovingly departed especially the one of brother. God rest his soul
100% correct.
I appreciate, cause I found just what I was looking for. You have ended my 4 day long hunt! God Bless you man. Have a nice day. Bye
There are some attention-grabbing cut-off dates in this article but I don’t know if I see all of them heart to heart. There's some validity but I'll take maintain opinion until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we want extra! Added to FeedBurner as effectively
The drug trade exists for one purpose - to serve the 'user' - the foundation of the trade and each of whom is as much a part of the problem as Abdinasir was. There is so much more going on here than parenting or policing or friends. We've become a society that accepts illegal drug use as part of its culture and we dig in our heels to defend our right to get high. This young man was providing a product - he would not have been able to do that without a market.
the one friend who left abdinasir with those guys....seems a bit suspicious. He returned from a food run "several hours later"? really?
Recently we have had another Somolian man killed in Edmonton I am so sick of this and I am so sick of people having the privledge to flee there country and become or not become a canadian citizen and you choose to break the law. It is time for the Somolian community to stand together and stop this themselves and stop asking the government for help when a person born and raised in Canada commits a crime they are sent to jail or if they choose to be involved with the drug trade they lose there lives. What makes all these 30 or so Somolian men think so little of themselves as well as there lives that they take these risks? When you come from another country you are given so much help money and chances why are you making a mockery of your community and why are you making it so hard for other hard working honest Somolians what are you gaining by this? STOP BLAMING OTHERS ITS TIME WE SOMOLIANS TAKE A STAND AGAINST OUR OWN AND SAY NO MORE.....I BEG ANYONE WHO WAS AT THE PUB AND WITNESSED ANYTHING STAND UP BE BRAVE AND LETs JOIN TOGETHER AND STOP THIS OURSELVES PLEASE.......
Pretty cut and dry... Pocket full of cash no job arrested for drugs in Fort McMurray 2+2+4.I lived in worked in Fort Mac for 5 years i know all about the life style such as drugs ,gambling and everything else that goes on there.Take a hint people dont try and get into the drug trade in a province where your not from !
allaha u naxariisto.. we somali we must change,,its same probleme here in OSLO norway ,gangs everywhere but we have much better justice than U, so god helpppppppppppppp
I can't disagree any of your insights. You should write more often!
Its was my first time watching the fifth and i watched this show and i was sad because everyone suffers through this i feel parents should adopt this culture and be open with their kids so that they know what their kids upto and try to build a community , mosque, or a church so that they learn their culture and religion and know right and wrong most of the time bad guys are targeting Specially we Africans i hope this stops soon and parents try to be open minded and postive, do not force ur kids for anything try to explain in a postive way spend time as much as u can w , your big investmnet is ur kids not the money Rest In Peace my fellow africans
Our mothers and fater take stand and be a parent. Now a days, you will see a child or young tell their parent, what to do. i go down the list of many mistakes. its sad to see, you are just openning yours eyes. allah said to teach your child the best your knowledge, he know you are not perfect. but to try your. In the many in my life, i talked too many moms and dads. The one some are best at drink tea and talking about other, when they're support to teach and watch kids. its pretty sad to see that. we as a somali people need to grown and teach better for our kids. the whole point you brought them here, was to have a better living and education. start do just that and allah will help you along the way. if not, you will heard stories like this one everyday. my heart goes to the parents. i feel that the parent were un-educated about there kids on a daily basics. otherwise they seemed smart to me in other hand. Teaching starts from home not friends. Stop blaming the friends, start blaming youself and your child. 30% is friends influence a friend, 20% is school or a teacher and the big part goes to the parents. which is 50%, so stop watch tv and start teach your child. sometimes parent runaway from there kid and thinking they are doing the best thing for them, which their not. well in eyez i thats crazy. but i happy to say, im so proud of those who are doing well for them by teaching. long story short, im praying for all the somali and the muslim people to do great and better things. may allah be with you all. last thing, lets start teaching our kids please, for a better days. one love and peace to you.
I really think the Somali boys should stop doing what they are doing and should stop dropping out of school and the parent should start learning how to say ,no"" and many Allah free there sister and my allah help the family .amen
Sarah,
I wish you had stayed. While it is true that racism in Alberta is extreme when a person who is educated and needed leaves it not only doesn't help. It makes things worse for those of us who are from here. We ahve to live on here with the fall-out from all of the good people who leave us because of the racism or underemployment of those who are trying to contribute to our society. We have the ones who are left to enjoy bad actions and bad behaviour or who decide to go to drug dealing or to a living with gang violence. I wish you peace and I hope that you are well employed where you are now. A First Nations woman.
May Abdinasirs soul rest in peace ameen. Why do u brothers get involved with the fast cash. Everybody nowadays wants the quick cash. Nobody wants to struggle at all. They say NO pain NO gain...
R.I.P Abdinasir Dirie we all going to miss you.......
rest in peace g-baby
y.g.c doomztown,rexdale we luv and miss you b
Not all Somali men (fathers) talk about tribe (qabil)or sit down coffe shops. I know myself and many other somalian fathers rise their kids very serius and very good job of doing that. so please before you generalize and say that all somalian fathers are failurs get your facts straight.thanks
After first watching this documentary, I was under the impression that Abdinasir and his family were cheated of justice and are the victims in this. But after coming back and reading these comments again I'm ashamed to say that I only feel sorry for the mother in this case. The girls, God only knows if they were naive enough to believe their "good friend's" offer for the free trip. This incident scares me because any given young lady would in her right mind run away to a known to be very dangerous country. Besides the fact, which ever way you would like to perceive this documentary it is only made clear that Abdinasir, may he rest in peace, was a drug dealer and for a lack of better words is responsible for his own actions. The only person in this documentary I feel for is the mother of the 2 teens. Myself, being a young Somali-Canadian can only take so much away from this eye-opening report: to better myself for my family, community and younger siblings. Better myself for my parents who came to this country not knowing a thing and risking everything they've ever worked for back home to better our future, our lives and give us everything they never had.
To conclude this on-going response I would just like to acknowledge the decrease in the violence and drug trade in the upcoming generation of young Somalis living in Ottawa and Toronto. I can't speak for Edmonton but I hope the same is going on over there. This/my generation of younger Somali teens have been the highest number of high school graduates, male and female, and are now pursuing a post-secondary education. More than I have ever witnessed in my 11 years living in Canada.
And God willing, we will not have to face this kind of tragedy in the Somali community ever again.
Thank you CBC for airing this piece. It is a story that should be told, not because of ratings as some may suggest, but to raise awareness to the plight of the Somali community. As an immigrant myself, I brought my young son to this country for a better opportunity. I was a teenage mother that dropped out of school in my country, but once in Canada, I soon realize that I had to educate myself in Canada to be on somewhat of a leveled playing field (Note: I was still a teenager when I immigrated). Today, my son is 26 yrs old and I have never had to deal with the police on his behalf. I too know about community parenting, but when you live in such close quarters to your fellow countryman, problems do arise. I made a very conscious decision not to raise my boy in densely populated neighbourhoods; I stayed away from areas with subsidized housing (such as Jamestown) paying a little extra rent to live in a place that I felt safe and decent. I do realize that I had one child not 5, but that was my decision to make. In my thought process, "why must have more children when I can barely take care of 1?" I do also realise that the mother in this scenario had a well educated husband, but I do feel that a woman has power and I myself exercised it. Overall, I emphatize with the parents, afterall, no parent fleeing a war torn country ever had the asperation for their child to: a) bury them, or b), bail them out of jail or in this case, visit them in jail. But parents that do immigrate must be that more vigilant. It's a tough job, but there isn't any other alternative. We can't sit back and hope that our children would find us: hardworking, diligent, and ambitious and aspire to emulate that. No! We have to hold them accountable and responsible. I believe now as I did when I raised my own son, that volunteering is a key factor. These kids have to learn how fortunate they are and that they should give back to a country that for better or worst, gave much to them. I am a black mother and I know racism, but as a minority, one should always use education as an arsenal, not guns! To the parents, rest assured, you did all you could in your circumstances, but stop being naive! I hope you find peace. As for law enforcement in Ft McMurray, they can only do so much when there town is being torn apart by violence an uncorporative citizens. Like a reader suggests, the tables would be turned if they spoke to a family afficted by a loved one suffering from drug addiction. RIP to the young man that has lost his life so senselessly! My hope is that this story acts as a catalyst to start the dialogue for change in the communities (for any community, because some form of violence is happening in every immigrant community).
so true CJ, CBC is racist we are good ppl some are bad, yes, but we are not all violent, he deserves justice like any other canadian citizen
I can only say that he made his bed and lay in it as for many other human in this situation no matter the color of your skin. You have to choice in life he choose the wrong one.
AMEEN!!!!!!!
This generation of Somali's h are corrupt not knowing what is best for them. I'm in this group but I despise all who do wrong. These people disgrace the nation that was amazing at once
I believe those girls were innocent. Justice was NOT served. And too often isn't, even in Canada.
Can't our government intervene?
What a heartbroken and sad story. Somali parents please study where you want to raise your children, because some cities is full of filthy crimes. it is all about the enviroment,as a parent please pay attention to the neigberhood stayaway the big cities.
TO MY BROTHER AND SISTER WAKE UP AND SMILE THE REAL WORLD LIFE IS WHAT U MAKE IT, U HAVE TWO CHOICE TO GO ON TWO WAY STREET IF THAT IS TO HARD FOR U THERE IS A ONE WAY STREET ON YOUR OWN.SO STOP POINTING FINGER THAT PERSON AROUND U, WHEN U POINT YOUR FINGER AT SOMEONE THERE IS THREE FINGER POINT AT U?? AND U HAVE TO STAND LIKE A ROCK OR MEAL LIKE ICE SO PICK ONE????
YES
Well said Ali,, they need to understand where this People are coming from before they make any Judgment
Talaabacade
MAY allah Forgive him for his sins . as everybody on this earth makes makes but only can forgive . soo instead of saying "this and that" ask allah for forgive on behalf of the brother that has dead. one day may he enter paradise AMEEN .
One Less Gangster, Another Prevented Crime. I Personally Think It's Good, These'' Thugs '' Are A Neusence To Society. The Government Is Trying To Clean Up The Country By Getting Rid Of Them, It's All Rigged..( Meaning Its Set Up ) Why Do You Think They All Just Keep Dying One After The Other In The Area..Fort Mcmurray, It's Rigged Thats Why They Claim They Have Evidence, Yet They Know The Murderer..Who Is Still Free. Maybe The Government Should Be Considerd The Murderer. Food For Thought.....
I thought We were a save Country, a place we can call second home,, a place that will never forgive the criminal,, were is the LAW. im hearing this is the 31 young Somali who has been killed in AB, what's happening ,, Its very fortunate to see a cases like this which has not been resolved....
Thank you Gillian Findlay for bringing this issue to light - I had no idea, until the program, that close to THIRTY young men of Somali descent lost their lives recently in Alberta. I think Ms. Findlay did a good job of presenting several sides of the story including the heart of a mother, the naivety of youth, the behaviour of individuals involved in the drug/crime culture and the lack of trust that still exists towards law enforcement and the justice system.
Perhaps Ms. Findlay considered that it would be spoon feeding the audience, but the history of minorities in Canada could have been presented more explicitly as it is relevant and may have shed some light on why this is, in some respects, happening again. Unsolved cases with known perpetrators is not new, though the numbers presented here are simply shocking. Canada, sadly, has not always been the land of opportunity for some minority groups. Just look to African Nova Scotians who have been in Canada for hundreds of years and First Nations people who have been here, well, much longer. Look to the experiences of relatively new immigrant communities as well.
At the end of the day, whether we are religious or not religious, we are all God's children. My heart goes out to the family members and friends who lost a loved one. While some are tempted to label these youth as so called bad people, aren't we all just human beings who can exercise bad judgement and who, at the same time, are still loving sons, daughters and friends.
Shame on cbc. Drug dealers live by the
Gun and die by it also.good riddance
I say ,the family knows exactly what's
Going on $$,how many lives did he help
Destroy with cocaine? Perhaps cbc should
Try writing stories about people who
Don't set out to break the law and feel
Entitlement and the right to destroy
Lives in the process
I have read all the comments just to see the diferences of opinions and I'm quite shocked by your opinions. First of all, CBC reproached or critized the Somalie comminity that they don't want to talk .So, is it an excuse for law enforcement to not catch the killer? Secondly, Is not only on case unsolved but thirdy one cases unsolved,and nobody will beleive that the Alberta Law Enforcement don't know who is behind all the killings.You must be blind or delluded to beleive this version. Thirdly the perception this documentary has given to viewers is clear. It says somaliens are by nature violent. Especialy,how the journalist is making the link betwen what's going on in Somalia and this young man who has never been in Somalia. Shame on You CBC . I'm sure if it was a white caucasions family,the case would be diferent and all white people wouldn't be considerate as bad people,although their ancestors had commited the worst atrocities in the world. we,yellow, black and white, citizen have to be carefull about this kind of documentary which I call the danger of a single story. Indeed, this documentary has reduced the entire comminity as only one thing which is definitely all Somaliens are drug dealer and put down the whole family instead of criticizing and urging the Alberta Law Enforcement to find who is behind the death of Abdi Naser. Shame on you again CBC. Anyways , I hope you might see the point but please don't be a narrow minded and jump in a conclusion which is expected by the people who have made this documentary.
As a somali immigrant I can relate to this story however it was ultimately the type of crowd he involved himself with that lead to his downfall, which in my opinion is 100% his fault. Living in jamestown also doesnt help the situation either.
Its time to wake up
my heart goes to the mother, she worked as a cleaner, put her self through school to get a better job, to provide for children and then they thank her for breaking her heart, the worst nightmare any parent could go through. as for the father, it is his job to follow up his children, make sure they are doing what are doing. abdinasir is dead, and am sorry he was old enough to choose the right path but then he did what he had to. as for the girls--u made your bed, its time to lie no it. my sympathy is with the mother.
as for Canada--they should do more to solve these murders. by the way am from the uk
In reply to a comment from Deqa.
Sister you took the words out off my mouth.
Somali men = Qabil[tribalim]at coffee time.
Where are the children, doing what ever they want to do, by the time he comes home, some of the children are a sleep, some are still out, the mother is a sleep because she is so tired from cleaning, cooking, ranning after the young ones[ maybe 5 of them under the age of 10] what do u expect from a home of no communication, with no father to help the mother & the children?
It is well known in the somali community that fathers do not know what is going on in home, he thinks by bringing in the bread, all the rest of the problems are fixed.The mothers are the ones who deal with most of the problems, and i as a young woman say, hands up for somali women.
I understand there is a problem of communication between the kids and their parents but parenting is not a part time job. Not only for Somali people but for every mothers and fathers if you can not take care of one child 100 per cent, don't have 2,3,4,5 or 13. Yes, there is a language barrier but most Somali kids don't even speak the language well. To that I say this take your child back home let him or her understand where they come from and maybe they will have some understanding to be better and do better as a human being.
Like what the old saying say. You live by the gun you die by the gun. I am sorry but the mother obviously knew that her son was not doing the right thing. We call all say that he is educated and nice but the reality is that his parents are in denial. They all need to face the truth and accept restponsibilty for the kids not doing the right thing. Lets put it this way; your child coming in with hundreds of dollars and he only work at MD. We all know that MD dont pay that much so the question that should be asked is where did you get it from? The mother took it anyway. I dont feel sorry for them at all. I am sorry for the fact that they are dead but as for the sister in Jail in Jamaica she is foolish and deserve it. She knew what she was doing. She claim she was given the ticket but she never asked why was the guy giving her ticket? Plain and straight the family knew what was going on.
M & Me
I agree that these types of stories prompt more viewers to tune into the Fifth Estate. However, the Fifth Estate is one of the only remaining critical pieces of journalism left. As much as I agree that the media uses cases that are exaggerated and out of the norm of most crime committed, I still believe that this program and Peter Mansbridge are a blessing to Canadian journalism.
Go rag on a program like Glenn Beck, or the O'Reilly factor.
According to my Prof at UofT, CBC reported this because our society is obsessed with stories of deviance and crime. Fifth Estate would not be watched if they showed us a documentary on a young successful Somali man who contributes positively because that would be boring story. How would you sit through to listen to Ali going to Kindergarten To Med school with straight As and is now a doctor? That is very common.
On the other hand, how many times do you heard about one family whose son was shot in the head in Alberta for drug related issues and their daughter in jail in Jamaica? The story almost qualifies for a holy wood movie and you are asking why CBC aired this? Come on man !
I have been working in Toronto as a Somali Interpreter for the last 2 years and what I witnessed myself regarding Somali parents and their kids here perplexed me. In my opinion, there is a problem of communication between the kids and their parents in terms of parenting and guidance due to language barrier. In some of the most bizarre cases I have covered, I had interpreted for two Somalis (i.e a child and a parent). They do not understand each other at a level where a parent can truly advise, connect with and guide their kid. So when some conflict arose and there was misunderstanding and the police was involved, I had to be called to help bridge the language barrier. So who do you blame? The parent? the kid? the police? I would not rush to conclusion unless you studied the Somali community in Toronto and found out for yourself what is going on.
I watched the documentary my heart definitely goes out to the parents and my deepest condolences are with them. I feel one major thing lacking in our communities is the involvements parents are lacking with there chldren. I feel that the deceased mother worked hard went to school but I agree with one of the above comments in regards to investing input children. These subsidized low income houses should be a temporary thing not permanent. I'm not yet a parent but if I had a child who went away I could have made a visit to see where he is staying what he is doing and I believe every parent knows whether there child is doing something good or up to no good. I think this documentary was an eye opener for our community we need to be accountable fir what is happening with our children and stop being in denial for the people who have expressed there opinions in a positive way kudos to you for those who have Bern negative please get a life.
I feel for the mother of this young man...a hardworking woman trying to do the best for her family.But it is naive of this family to continue to protest the innocence of the young man. The drug trade is a deadly game and the reward is often what we see here. Until the Somali community is ready as a whole to condemm this lifestyle and its so-called easy money what we have seen here will continue to happen. One important issue was not covered in your very excellent coverage of this story. The damage done every day to Canadian children in our elementary and high schools where these young men ply their drug trade. As a resident of Fort Mcmurray, every day we hear about the Somali Toronto Drug connection. A police force will be ineffective if it does not have the support of the law abiding citizens. The Somali community cannot hide its collective head in the sand here and hope the problem goes away. It will not. You cannot have the attitude that the drug trade is not a crime and that it is only a crime to get caught at it.
Accepting the money from it is condoning it. So don't be surprised when you become part of the misery it also brings.
What do you mean by "Why do Somalis fail" there are so many educated and successful Somalis all around the world, and here in Canada as well. Every immigrant community in Canada has its own share of problems, and this documentary only highlights some of the problems facing the Somali Community. This does not mean that these problems are exclusive to the Somali community. This documentary is coming form one side, and only tells half the story. There are countless success stories as well. The Somali people have only been for about 20 years now, and they are working on their problems and trying to find solutions, but it takes time. SO, before you generalize and say that Somalis are failures get your facts straight.
Ilaahey ha u naxariisto, I first have to thank CBC for broadcasting this so one day there maybe a solution for these young men be drug free. It also time for all Canadian help out our young men to find something usefull in life.Ye there are good Somali young men in Canada too but these youngmen are victims of drug dealers and it a time we all work together to stop it. Drugs are not what many people like us Somali-Canadians came to Canada for. After all this is a Canadian painfull stories and it should be deal as such. If we don't do something know, it is going to get all our children. Every child's a good child but what makes different is choice one makes and Somali parents need to realized this is serous business. We should know we have a huge broblems then I'm sure Canada will help. Somali parents should do more to save their children from joining drug world first place and the Government of Canada and police should do more to stop this kind of situtation continues.
I believe it's time for Somalis to stop being in denial, stop blaming authorities and take responsibility for your actions and lack thereof.
We spend our time worrying about what people will say and neglect our children. We are so focused on QABIIL (tribalism), and making money to build houses or purchases houses and cars and don't put effort into our kids. Let's stop the blame and support each other as Somalis. Let those lousy fathers who leave a mother alone with bunch of kids take responsibility for their children and their family.
May Allah have Mercy on all of us.
these kids choose to be gangsta wanna bes..family begins at home..
Its easy for someone to say..."why dont you just tell the police" when your not the one who is in fear of their life. I agree yes the parents should take responsibility, but the police are not blameless! Like mentioned in the video, the police know who did it they have finger prints, YET, THATS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE! SO.... if the police aren't doing anything about it, then why should one snitch, so that their lives and their families lives can be in danger??
LOOK HERE, SOMALIS ALWAYS PUT BLAME ON OTHERS, THE BOY WENT TO ALBERT TO LOOK FOR A BETTER LIFE,HE DID NOT FIND THAT BETTER LIFE, SO HE JOINED A GROUP OF YOUNG MEN WHO WERE MAKING EASY MONEY.OUR CHILDREN LUCK FATHER FIGURE, MOST OF THIS KIDS COME FROM BROKEN HOMES.
AS THE SISTER INLAW SAID , HE HAD LOTS OF MONEY ON THAT DAY HE VISITED THEM, BUT AS A MUSLIM I HAVE TO PRAY AND ASK ALLAH TO FORGIVE HIM OF HIS SINS AND OUR SINS TOO, AMEEN
As a Canadian born of Somali descent, I am pleased to see that CBC has shed light of this crisis that has plagued my community for years. As I scroll through the comments, there are many conclusions that my fellow Canadians have formulated which I would like to clarify. For those who quickly jump the gun on immigration, I would like to say that the vast majority of the Somalis killed were either born and arrived in Canada at a young age; meaning they were brought up in a Canadian lifestyle, having little or no connection to Somalia. Secondly, for those who ridicule the Somali Community for not cooperating with police, you must take into consideration many factors. For starters, by fingering a murder suspect, you are classified in the criminal underworld as a "snitch". By being a "snitch", you are now at the mercy of ruthless murderers who can either kill you, or your loved ones. So imagine you as a Somali witnessing a murder of another Somali, you damn well do not want to be a "snitch" if it means the killer's "homeboys" will go after your mother any other loved one in your family. As well, many Somali-Canadians who left Somalia at an older age grew up in a society where police were known to be corrupt and ruthless to the general public; which left a scar of distrust towards the police within the community. Thirdly, many who have commented dismissed Abdinasir as just another gangster, him resorting to the gangster lifestyle like many of the other dead Somalis have could have been prevented. In this documentary, it stated how Abdinasir grew up in low-income housing with an absent father. This has been status quo for many in the Somali diaspora. As stated by many others, Somalis traditionally have their children brought up by the community without the need of fathers. Here Abdinasir did grow up by the traditional standards of the Somali culture, he was raised by the community. This community however, was the "hood" in which he was indeed a product of his environment. This is a quiet but deadly cycle that requires the parents to step up and intervene to break this status quo. To wrap up my rather long comment, I would like to say to those in the Somali Community that we are not in Somalia, we are in Canada and we need to abide by the proactive standards of this land; which includes having a father figure and monitoring the development of your children. You can still teach dhaqanka iyo afka hooyo (culture and mother tongue) while being Canadian citizens. I would also like to say to my fellow Canadians who are not of Somali descent to not quickly jump to conclusions and play the blame game, but rather help our community with solutions that may finally put an end to this crisis.
I too like to thank the fifth state and CBC for their piece on the Somali-Canadian community. I always had no understanding of how/why youth are getting shot/murder in the West. Its sad the stories and rumors people make up, and mix of little facts and lots of lies. Now, there is clear prospective of the story, and I hope people and youth especially learn from this story. I hope the two girls come back safely home to their families, I hope God forgives all the 31 youth that died in the Alberta, to forgive us, and all our deceased. And please stop being so judgmental and enough with the generalization. Take from it what can change you to the better!!!!
What more evidence do you require when the actual witness came forward? If your system is rejecting what would the best evidence, then you are not in this world. Thank god we are in europe not in north america...
a great piece of JOURNALISM. showing his story and remaining independent. It is sad to hear about youth who choose this path, esp from this doc, one that had potential. This raises a huge question about the role of our police and government...and education.
"be patient when something befalls you, for surely allah is with all of us", may you reach paradise someday abdinasir.
As a member of the Somali-Canadian society, I must say that we the Somali community must look within first, before blaming the police for not solving these murders. Its is almost indoctrinated into us as young adults that "snitching" is the one of the worst thing you can do, and thru that attitude we are less inclined to cooperate with police investigations, ultimately leading to a no murders being solved. My fellow Somalians we must work together with the police, and stop harboring people who commit crimes within our community. Also a finale note to those of you on this thread who have taken time to assassinate abdinasir character, and life choices. Did abdinasir choose a life style that would lead to one's inevitable murder, yes. But at the end of the day his was someones child, brother, cousin. So before you demonize him and other Somalians who have died before him, remember they were human beings and there were apart of a family,just like you and me. So do these families a favor and keep your lack of empathy to yourself.
I am rerlated to Abdinasir , to see him all over the T.V just breaks my heart :( WE MISS YOU ♥
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I watched it last night. If that was my relative/brother/friend I'd be ashamed to go on TV and tell the world he was innocent. Come on!!!
The typical story:
He was at the wrong place at the wrong time- drug bust in an apartment.
He claimed to be working at Tim Horton's but had tons of cash to spread around
He was planning on going back to school....although I didn't hear anyone say the typical "he was turning his life around".
The guy got busted for coke distribution. Plain and simple. He got shot because he was selling said coke at local bars known to be H.A. territory. You think you can just walk into an established gang territory and there won't be any repercussions?
Same with the 2 Somali girls who got busted at the airport in Jamaica. A "good friend" of yours gives you plane tickets, 2 strangers pack your bags with "fish" and ask you to bring it back to Toronto. And you claim you had no idea what was going on??? If you're that ignorant, you deserve to be sheltered from normal society.
Gimme a break.
The worst part is the Somali community were holding protests because they felt the authorities weren't doing enough to solve the crimes and yet most of them were unwilling to cooperate in the investigations or answer any questions about said crimes when questioned by police.
There is not much I can add, but give my condolences to the mother and father who have fled from their home to another country, thinking that they could a more secure and more stable life for themselves and their children. Loosing a child who died under controversial circumstances at such a young age must be the worst experience for any parent. I cannot critizise your parenting and say you did this and you did that wrong, because truth be told every parent always does for his child what he thinks is best.
At the same time I cannot disagree with some people's comments here, because no matter how hard this is going to sound; they are right! Parents need to be more demanding and more in the know of their childrens whereabouts and also be more consequent with them from a young age on, without invading their personal space nor their privacy.
But who am I to give advice to anyone? I cried watching this documentary. I cried, because I know that we somalians are to blame. We are killing each other not only back home but also in the west. Sad...
Like the lady said: Its time we all stop lying to each other! ''Wake up and smell the coffee!'' And stop being a coward - stop protecting those who cause nothing but trouble in the communities. SNITCH, if you die as a result of that at least you died for something, because sooner or later we all have to die and stand infront of the almighty where you will have to explain why you kept quiet and didnt do anything about it!
As for Abdinasirs family; I hope that Allah gives you all the the strenght you need to carry on with life and May Allah forgive that gorgeous handsome boy for whatever he did. The good die young, that is not lie. Do not let those beautiful memories you have of him be tainted by someone who is only full of stereotypes and prejeduce. Whatever Abdinasir did or didnt do will not bring him back. Allah knows best and it is between Him and Abdinasir.
i hope those cowards who run arround with guns and knives and think they are men, those gangsters, thugs and wanna be pimps; YOU ALL ARE TRUELY DISGUSTING and i hope that at least SOME of you have LEARNED THEIR LESSON from this. You live by the Gun, You die By the Gun.
Very well said, Foreigner Sir. Canadian employers continue to underserve recent immigrants at their own peril, yes--but meanwhile the fallout in humans terms is huge and underreported. Canada's disconnect between its immigration policy and its private sector's hiring practices is preposterous.
Thanks for sharing, mo--families that drift apart need to find ways to work through it, and that includes seeking support in a new country. Parents will never know if help was available unless they ask.
as a somali, an immigrant and a canadian,i agree with you wholeheartedly..the truth sometimes is a bitter pill for some people to swallow but that is the cure our community needs to get itself out of this mess!!
For the family of Abdinasir and all the like families who are going though the same trials and tribulations, May Allah be with you in your darkest hours. May peace and prosperity find your hearts insh’allah. For all the people coming on here to leave behind negative comments, although I can understand the root of your anger, being detained by such anger myself at times, I hope you’re not so heartened that you cannot find an ounce of humanity and compassion left in you.
For all the little hard core wanna be thugs running around, I hope you wake up to the reality that awaits you if you make this your SAD reality and choose to travel this road paved with false riches. Because if you live by the gun, then surely you shall die by the same means. Your better than this fate, you really are. There’s nothing glamorous about death. And contrary to the misconception glorified by hood mentality, “THE GOOD DO NOT DIE YOUNG” For they choose to preserve life, they choose to live and be productive members of society. They go on to become real men; fathers, husbands, teachers, examples, role models. Life is hard, and I am sure double hard for a young black man, but who the hell said it’s was suppose to be easy. Please understand that there is nothing glamorous about death. Are you guys really that determined to speed its process up?
To all the young men who lost their lives, regardless of how you met your demise, it hurts me to see you remain faceless in death as you were in life, and unrepresented. As much as I hate to throw in the race card, some truths you can never escape. And some people will forever hold misguided notions that some lives are worth more than others due to color, creed and religion, when clearly that is not the case.
To all my fellow Somali’s juggling two identities and in sometime conflicting cultures you got to do more than try. To all the Somali mothers everywhere who have been failed by majority of our men, the system and by their children, keep trying and please keep your head up and PLEASE, PLEASE open your eyes to what’s taking place under your roof. It’s not always the friend, as hard as it is to accept more often than not the problem maybe your child. May Allah watch over all of us, those who are already gone and those of us soon to follow. For everyone must taste death at some point.
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'oon. May Allah give them an easy and pleasant journey to the other side. Ameen
Yes I agree with most of the comments said. It is sad to see how somalis of this generation are. I'm a somali from Ottawa and we have the same problem here with west side east side and south side gangs and how so many somalis are murdering each other over nothing sometimes and these are people in my age group (19 to 26) that I try to stay away from. Really what we need is a strong community base for which these kids who are in the crowd could come to in order to get help. This is a growing epidemic and we need to remember we are no longer in somalia but in beautiful canada. I feel for Abdinasir's family and for Abdinasir himself. Allahu naxareesto
god forgive him
I watched this documentary and i don't believe them. A good boy does not hang around with drug dealers, he does not get caught drug trafficking. The parents of this boy are in denial and quite frankly ignorant of who their son was. I am sure he was a loving son but he was also a drug dealer who ended up getting killed. They need to stop deluding themselves. The police don't care about a dead drug dealer who's from an immigrant family.
As to all of the Somali families who's children are caught up in the drug trade, don't cry foul when your loved ones get shot when all along you knew he was involved in some kind of criminal activity.
I too went to Alberta with my degree looking for a good job but when i couldn't find much opportunity, i just left. They need to do the same thing too, racism in Alberta won't get change just because they are present there
It is sad to see our youth kill each other and it also sad as a community to stay silence when we know the outcome of selling drug:death.why are we on denial,who are we kidding?
Some people on this forum are questioning why the police have not made any arrests in these killings. Our court system requires the police to have evidence to convict someone and when no one is willing to testify against someone, that evidence is lacking. The victim's sister says that everyone on the street knows who killed her brother and that one of the three men in his apartment talked. Unfortunately he won't talk to the police or testify in court. She says that the police have fingerprints - well they have a lot of fingerprints in the apartment. It doesn't prove who shot her brother. The victim's sister could identify the Toronto drug dealer, but she won't. Until people are willing to stand up to the violence, it will continue unfortunately and you can not blame the police when no one will stand up for the victim.
What really sends me around the bend is the collective mindset of this national publicly funded broadcaster. Undeniably, the main thrust of this story is how regrettable it is that Canadians have failed their fellow ethnic Canadians, subtly suggesting "Systemic Racism"...their usual and predictable lefty propaganda. Oh sure, the question came up, "Is it possible this guy was involved in the drug trade?" Not the point in this story. It's all about the failing by the rest of us. Makes me gag!
And hey....if you know who did it, make it your ambition to convince anyone who may have witnessed anything, to do the right thing. This "No Snitch" righteousness is quickly killing civilization.
I was deeply saddened about his murder not because of his death or the gang baning or the drug dealing that is going on in our Somali community But only the ignorance that is going on in my Somali families. This is not only a problem in St. Jamestown neighbourhood. It is going on in Regent Park, West Mall/ East Mall and we as Somali- Canadian sit and watch our youth murder them self. Somali mothers/fathers lets be honest about who we are raising. Those kids are not a victims of western world culture. They are a victim of an absent parents. Over stress mothers and fathers who are not being fathers to their daughters and sons and living a BIG FAT LIE. "ONLY IF YOU KNOW BETTER YOU DO BETTER". We fled civil war to come to this, to be this, to see this. May Allah help us all. We know what is going on but it's very easy to point to someone else and say "it's his friends", BS it was him/her! or "wrong place at the wrong time", BS him/her again. Stop the lies mothers and fathers. For those with good kids well done and for others you know who you are, it's on you mom/dad. But unless we tell the truth to ourself and say what I am doing wrong as mother, as a father nothing will change.
The government provides you with FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTHCARE, FREE POLICING. IF YOU CHOOSE TO DROPOUT YOU CHOSE TO BE A LOSER. ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP YOUR KIDS IN SCHOOL NOT THE GOVERNMENT. IF YOU KID IS PUSHING DRUGS, DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL OR MURDERED ITS YOUR FAULT, ITS YOUR PARENTING THAT PROGRAMMED A CHILD TO THINK THAT WAY. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
They came with plans of making big money, they were young smart and strong.... No.. No.. they came to sell drugs, threaten people, to become drug lords & thought they were 10 feet tall and bullet proof.
If you put yourself in the game, remember there's a loser every time and eventually your number will be up.
Your right tho if it were a Caucasian person it may be solved now. Because people would tell the truth. This war is a Somali Dealers war amongst themselves. Yet all the families deny it. If you deny yourself the truth, you are at fault! Don't blame others you are responsible for raising, protecting educating your family, and when you choose to lie to protect the memory of your children then you can't expect to find any truth.
None of these people are victims, the victims are the ones that have to live, love and work in this environment.
Just because you don't want to believe the truth does not make it any less true. Stand up and take responsibility.
May Allah guide the somali community to the true path and accept their prayers. our youngers who got killed will be lessons for us to learn from and achieve our safety. lets united and protect our communities.
this is very tragic. my heart goes out to the families. i can only imagine what they're going through:( lets take a moment and pray for our young people because they're the future. may allah guide all of us to the straight path....
May allah have mercy on all of our lost loved ones insha allah, and may allah guide us. AMEEN
If our young Somali kids were given responsibility at a young age and not treated like little boys even as young adults, maybe then they wouldn't jump the gun and get soo ahead of themselves. Our mothers need to realize that its important to give these kids duties, maybe then they can become men and not act like little boys who can't make simple choices in life. Its easy STAY OUT OF TROUBLE, STOP BEING FOLLOWERS AND BE LEADERS, IF YOU WANT VIOLENCE AND HARDSHIP SOMALIA IS ONLY A TICKET AWAY>>>>>>> GO THERE!
It's extremely frustrating that my comments most likely will not be posted as they go against a "news story" with such a one-sided view on the side of a Somali drug dealer. I love the way that most of the comments allowed to be posted support this. Thankfully most Canadians don't think this way.
Oh, please. I wish you bleading hearts would accept the fact that if they hadn't chosen the lifestyle they had they would most likely still be alive. I may feel sorry for their families but why should I feel sorry for a drug dealer who got shot? Our country let him down...we let him down...give me a break. As for "racial discrimination' I love how that card gets played and the double standards it gets played for when things don't go in favor of ethnic minorities.
Mila and everyone else on this list condemning the parenting. You are correct, in that there is a lack of sustained parenting but you are not correct in implying that it's somehow the result of a mother and father that do not care about their children. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Let me give some background and explain ...
The third-world countries that these families come from (as did mine) are reminiscent of Canada pre-1970's in terms of their view of women. The ideal woman in these countries is one that has good domestic qualities and not one that is expected to earn an income for their families - that is left for the father. As a result, the men of these countries finish high school, go to college, and become professionals like many in this country. Meanwhile, the women forgo higher education and get married at a young age instead. This is not only the case with Abdinasir's family (his father was a professor back in Somalia) but it's also the same story for *thousands* of other Canadian immigrants (perhaps millions).
Now, after these families come to Canada, the education that the father received is quickly dubbed "foreign" by Canadian employers thus virtually nullifying years of experience and education that sustained these families for years. With zero money, these once-respected men have to make the decision of whether to "upgrade" their education to "Canadian standards" so that they can compete with 22 year-old Suzy Q, neighbour of Mr.XYZ, for an entry-level position at Firm XYZ or earn some income to put food on the table to feed their 3+ children that they brought with them to escape their war-torn country. Each time, they make the obvious decision.
What's next? Well, the father has to take jobs often reserved for Canadian high-school underachievers since the poisonous words "foreign educated" has essentially relegated him to one; regardless of his experience or education. His 20-hour days as a cab-driver helps put a roof over the heads of the family and food on the kitchen table. Meanwhile, with a need to put clothes on her kids back and a table in the kitchen to place the food on, the mother also works. With zero understanding of the English language, and no "foreign education" to ceremoniously call her own, the mother takes jobs that Suzy Q would have laughed at at the age of 14 - minimum wage jobs that shield this woman from interacting with "real" Canadians. Cleaners, custodians, kitchen staff, etc... that start their day by cleaning out your office as you're heading out at 5pm. You know, the women you say thank-you to if you're happy with how your day went or quietly get upset with if they enter your space to clean your garbage on a bad day.
With dad home intermittently 4 hours of the day (to rest), and mom away all night, who takes care of the kids? Who teaches them right from wrong? Who takes them to soccer at 6pm? Who asks them what they learned in school? Who asks them about the friends that they're hanging out with? Who? Nobody.
Another dead drug dealer. Let them wipe-out each other. Good riddance.
I live and work in Ft. McMurray and this episode makes our city look like we are all racial rednecks and our police force as racist skin heads. We are hard working Canadians providing natural resources to the country and abroad.
The deaths of these young men as tragic as it is, was brought on by greed. You play in the snake pit you get bitten. They are drug dealers, they deal poison and death to our children. They were not killed in an accident, they were executed by their own community for the poison and the illegal money gained from drug dealing.
I listened to the families talk of how wonderful this young man was. Maybe you should interview the families of crack addicted children, and the horrors that these families face.
I know my comments made will face scrutiny, but is it not time that we start to stand up and stop our streets being taken over by thugs who call themselves gangsters. A comment posted here said 50% of the Somalia cab drivers are drug dealers, that is the truth. Citizenship in this country is a privledge. It is up to the Somalia community to deal with this issue and not to blame the authorities when the community will not come forward to assist them in their investigation. It is easy to blame the city of Ft. McMurray and the Province of Alberta. Lets put the blame where blame is due, on the thugs.
I just want the parents of the up coming somali canadians to wake like one of the presenters said and smell the coffee...Easy money comes from dirty places short and simple...Being generous with money to share with your family is part of somali culture but when there is no legitimate origin of the money that means trouble is brewing..There is nothing wrong with asking your child where the money is coming from....
Next point please publish this...Jamestown residents need to move out of the low income housing as they have been ghettoized by this society if your friend is a gangster guess what the apple doesn't fall far from the tree you are more likely to join the ranks...this is what happens time and again in ghetto communities...so move and disperse...
War trauma, racism, poverty, poor education (in Toronto school), living in the ghetto, no positive role models, and finally the Media such as the BET music videos that glorify the bling, bling life. Kids in grades 8 &9 are heard say "I am going to make money or die trying". So I guess these young men and women are well into the journey of dying.
The Somalis are going through the same tragedy that the Jamaicans experienced. I appreciate the fact that the Fifth Estate did this documentary, but I do not think the governments of Canada, Alberta, and Ontario is going to do anything about it. After all what have they done for the Jamaicans; nothing in my opinion? So the Somalis should not expect anything from the RCMP or local police agencies.
It's so sad after all we have been through to get to where we are that right now our boys , our youths are lost. We need to admit as Somalis that our boys are not just influenced by their friends, and that they maybe are the problem. We have to shine a light on that fact that our youths are lacking the guidance needed to become productive in the society. The root of the problem is our ignorance to the fact that our youths are at lost. There is no structure in the homes of Somali youths either being the absence of the parents or the influence of drugs and violence. We have to become aware of this problem and make a change.
i am so saddened by this trend..somalis have to stop burying their heads in the sand..this is a failure of parenting ..parents are not getting involved in their kids lives..we cannot behind the excuse of being immigrants and expect the government to raise our young men in prison.
May Allah Help Us All (Amiin)
I, too, applaud the Fifth Estate for shining a light on this story. In response to many of the thoughtful comments below, this is a complicated issue. The roots of the problem run deep – historical, gang and drug connections, the challenges of rearing children in ghetto-like conditions and poverty. I am a strong supporter of immigration in Canada. It strengthens our cultural mosaic adding a rich diversity, expands the economy infusing new ideas and creativity. Yet it takes time for immigrant populations in Canada to adjust, and often historical problems from their homeland affect communities here. An example would be the conflicts between a portion of Sikh and Hindu communities in Vancouver during the late 80's and early 90's. While we can deplore such tragedies, empathize with and convey sympathy to the families, insist that police forces and government do all they can to investigate, establish justice and provide the resources for better universal access to effect modes of education, this kind of violence will only end when all of us learn how to rise above the conditions and chances of our lives, learn to peacefully co-exist and thrive in unity.
uhm , your comment was well rude who cares?
well his sister does , One less gangster its so funny how you people can judge a person with out knowing them !
Why cant Somalis outside of Canada see this video too??
So sad. Allaha u naxaristo and I wonder what happened to his sister and her friend.
As if you just said that. Put yourself in somebody else's shoes, and see how that feels. Gosh, people like you are so insensitive. Not cute at all.
Abdinasir Abdulkadir Dirie was out on bail, charged with 4 other men with dealing cocaine, and due in court when he said he'd be flying back to Toronto, and apparently had unexplained funds, just before his murder in his apartment complex on April 21, apparently by 3 men he knew (the program implies they were also of Somalian origin)...
Meanwhile, his older sister, Iman Ali (and her girlfriend), languishes in a Jamaican jail, convicted of attempting to smuggle 20 kilos of marijuana on a flight to Canada, after a "friend" from Jamaica had offered them a free all-expenses paid trip...
Definitely, Canadian authorities should be doing more to solve the murders of Somalian-Canadian youths in Alberta. But I also wonder what are some of the other reasons behind these problems?? Canada has provided a great deal of help, support, financial aid and education to refugees from Somalia and elsewhere; why are these young men (and some women) turning to gangs and a life of crime?
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People are can be so ignorant. "He was a good kid". He had no job yet he was able to send hundreds of dollars every month....... the "job" he supposedly had was at a Tim Horton's.
The whole family structure of Somali families are falling apart with husbands divorcing there wives, the religion abandoned, and the police left to blame.
Well, it's about time the Somali gangsters tell their side of the story and let the authorities know the perpetrators. It's only you, who can bring this tragic to an end. As long as killers are outside, the massacre of Somali youth will continue. Just come forward and bring this to a close,,you will be better, the society will be better and this tragic face of young Somalis will finally be the thing of the past...don't wait..be a man and point fingers...
Leave the hate and the violence and the crime behind, this is Canada and YOU have a choice! From a limited perspective you may not believe this. But YOU have a choice to deny the influences that cripple your generation, you can stand up to lead a successful and honest life, free from the corruption and greed and war that plagued your parent's generation in Somalia.
Take advantage of every chance you have to be a pro active positive influence on your community!
This is such a sad story. May they all find peace.
My condolences to all the friends and family members.
First of all, most of the Somaili young men do not come from Toronto to work in the oil fields and get rich, they in fact come to deal drugs to oil field workers to get rich.
There is an extensive network from Toronto through Winnipeg to Alberta of organized crime ie Somali and Sudanese street gangs. These young men and women are selling Crack Cocaine at rates that would alarm regular law abiding Albertans. They carry firearms, know how to use them and are not afraid to kill.
Police love nothing more than to solve crime and put dangerous criminals in jail. Police need cooperation from first hand witnesses in order to solve murders, third party information does not cut it. Some murders take years to solve, the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt seems to be overlooked by people in this documentary.
I do not blame witnesses for not coming forward, these gangsters are ruthless and extremely dangerous. The fear of greater loss of life and or bodily harm is obviously more important to witnesses than justice.
Those of you posting that blame police for not solving the crime need to wake up, Mr Dirie was a drug dealer with charges to prove it, he had what others wanted and they took it. Dealing drugs is a dangerous game as well as being criminal. You can only play with fire for so long before you get burned.
Thanks Gillian Findlay.
My prayers go out to the families,a tears run down my cheek as I watch this documentary how sad is it to know that most of these families run away from their homeland for a batter life and brighter future for their children. It didn’t unfortunately make any different for these families. If they knew how carless the government could be not being involved the crimes that happened all the time and not solving the molder of these young people dying all the time, they would have stayed their homeland, where there is not government. It sad and heart breaking to knew my young brothers are dying and no one cares for them. How is it that more than 20 young men die and no one was arrested, how could the government let criminals get away. My heart breaking, when I was 8 I saw young teenage boy burning to death, because the bomb he find and he kept on this pocket I never thought I will see other young man dying a reason of weapon again but I was wrong.
Why?Why?Why? Has the CBC wasted the tax payers money on produceing a story about a family that has done NOTHING what so ever to add to the qulity of the life in this country. EVERY good quality reported of these two young people is complete unfounded conjecture and hyperbole. They made wide eyed freeedom choices and got EXACTLY what they sought ot and deserevred. Anyone can sat that they WANTED to go to college or I WAS GOING TO BECOME this or that. That is ALL the producers could feebily come up with in an attempt to paint this two losers in any kind of favourable light. The producers should be ASHAMED of themselves for trying to seel this as a "Tug at your heart strings" story
It sad story! my prayer to all these kids and their families. I am sure these kind of sad story and senseless killings will repeat more often unless Somali parents (specially fathers)get heavily involve their children life. Please read carefully the time-line of the story and see the frequency of crimes committed by these youngsters and bails. How do we explain when our kids commit these horrible crimes while they suppose to be at home with parents under the bail conditions? I am not justifying authorities failure of apprehending those who kill our children but we should emphasize the role of parenting.
After watching the report its clear that the concern and attention should be equally divided between the police and the Somali community.
How can the police catch people when no one is talking? How can these mothers and sister keep saying "he was a good boy" when it was clear what he was up to?
While I agree the police can make more arrests it doesn't necessarily lead to convictions. Closed communities do nothing to get crimes solved.
"If this was a white Canadian victim, the case would have been closed by now." - maybe and if it was, it would be because the 'white' Canadian community wouldn't be lying through its teeth and covering up and making behind the scenes deals with each other. Through this whole story all I saw was liars lying and trying to shift the blame to law enforcement and the dead dealer's friends. The willful blindness to the behavior of the young people is as disgusting as the crimes they commit. And so long as some true innocent doesn't get caught in the crossfire, carry on killing each other. New country, same fighting, same lack of morals and discipline, same result. Die in Somalia, die here, rot in prison somewhere, I don't feel sorry for any of them. One less gangster is correct!
When you come to Canada for a better life you better leave your old ways behind. We all came from somewhere else and we are here because we left the past behind and started a new and better life. We didn't have to lose our culture, our identity, our religion. But we didn't self-segregate as I see this group doing. You only want the law to validate your lies, but not dig to the truth.
@ ciska i hope u loose a family member so i can say something offensive and heartless to you....
People's remarks that this case remains unsolved because of race are rediculous. It remains unsolved because of the violent drug culture in which Dirie died. It is unfair to say that the police don't care - more accurate to say that the other gangsters don't care.
And nothing of value was lost, bunch of criminals should be sent back to Somalia in a crate.
It's really sad situation we all as Somalis live. Kids out of control whatever reason. I don't know what different parents could do.
i am so sorry whats going on in canada specaily for young somalis killing each other......actually those somalis diaspora is da only survival part of our community but this is another damn case my allah help us
I am not a somalian, but this story brought tears to my eyes. It's so sad how immigrants migrate to Canada for a better life, but our life keep getting cut short for a problem that was not created by us, but those who have been here as big bosses. No jobs, a lot of racism in employment and lazy authorities who spice up their heart with strong racism against coloured migrants, blacks especially. We all are not bad, it is the silence we get at home, where parents forget that there are other duties than making money to feed the kids and the acceptance from gangs that gives some of our youths the joy. More interaction, talk to your children. Don't spare the rod! that is how we were brought up. I dare not have my hands in some crazy thing, the fear of my mother, is the beginning of wisdom. I dare not and all that have made me a better person. We all learn from our mistakes sometimes and most times we don't get that chance to retrace our steps. It was just too late. Accept my deepest sympathy. I can feel he is in a better place where such violence wont come to him. Rest in peace.
This is not a movie this is real life individuals with families who love them and miss them. to the people who are making negative comments. let me play devils advocate. clearly sympathy is not on your minds. but think about it this way. would you really want some one who can pull a trigger and put a bullet in another human beeings head walkin around in the streets sharing a sidewalk with your children. it is in everyones best intrest that these killers are brought to justice. weather or not you care about these poor victims stories
god helps somali childen
this is a bad news, i am very sorry mother
hi every one out there, i would like to send my condolences to the family of Abdinasir Dirie and at large Somalis in Canada and around the word,
Secondly i live in South Africa where by we get killed and robbed dailly and i have a relative in Canada iam very sory sorry to Somalians who get the chance to live in peace and freedom country like Canada not benefiting.
I would like to urge Somalians in Canada to set up communities who work properly their people and fellow up those who commit crimes to face justice and those of you who bussy criminal activities i said come on guys get a life and get ride of dirty jobs be role models .
Finally i would like to share ideas as youth my fellow brothers and sisters in Canada and around and around the world how we promote peace and stability in home land and overseas...
I thank you all
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It's sad that such young lives have been lost...But let's all remove the wool from our eyes and stop the ghettorization of somalis in jamestown...if you want a better life for your child move out of the pit, dungeon and death hole called jamestown...gun shots are the order of the day and lives go missing...If you escaped violence then don't let the so called cheap government housing be the grave of your children....invest in them and make sacrifices...it's better to pay a thousand $ for rent than the death sentence 300$...Say bye bye ghetto..because it's never going to get better whether all the neighbours are somali or not...it's a ghetto...
Here and there people die for many reasons ,,, the media is too much also racist pointing out the whole Somali community I know nobody likes nobody and we are Somalis here need to be stronger and stronger for ever he says she says keep saying
Eveytime I hear about a death of somali youth in Canada,i have flashbacks when one of ours was beaten to death by a mob of 30 or more drunked biskets and many on the street did not even bother to call the police.I am reminded by a remark that was made by someone who heard about the savage beating and he wrote on the news paper"If that was a dog who was getting this kind of beating,We as Canadians whould have been up in arms and angry as hell". Ofcourse that was not a dog,It was a Somali Immigrant by the name of Mr.Ahmed Hashi.....may alah rest his soul in peace.
Thirty two somali Immigrant youth are killed in Alberta in the last five years....Imagine if that was thirty two dogs in a span of five years that was killed by fellow humans...how angry would the rest of Canada be? iS NOT NOT TIME THAT HUMAN LIVES REGARDLESS OF THEIR COLOR OR CREED ARE TREATED AS EQUAL AND VALUED AND WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE WORDS THAT ARE ENGRAVED TO OUR POLICE LOGO TO PROTECT AND SERVE.....UNLESS THIS MURDER CASES ARE SOLVED THOSE WORDS WOULD ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANING TO SOMALI CANADIANS........
my heart shatters into million pieces trying to imagine the pain and agony the families of those young victims are feelings.it must be imbearable for them. so my heart felt condolences go out to each one of their families.
this is a national tragedy and a shameful secrete that should disgrace us all. i am a somali who lived in montreal for a decade, and i can say that those murders have a long reach and they touched me so deeply. i have brothers who day in and day out strive so hard to accomplish their career and family goals despite the harsh realities that young black men are faced with in every turn. i am proud of them.
what's happening here is a failure by the government, the law enforcement, the somali community and the education system. young black men are disproportionaltely vulnerable to criminal lifesytle influences, racism , abuse my the police in the form of racial profiling, and abject sense of hopelessness. somali parents have also been slacking in their parental responsibilities. many of them dont follow their children's school progress, dont enrol them in afterschool activities and quite frankly dont show much interest in who their children associate with until it is much too late.
untill all concerned parties wake up from the apathy induced comas, the situation will only worsen. it is high time we did something to improve the odds for these young boys who if not nurtured right , will fall victim to senseless violence that we see today.
I think its the Somali parents that failed on their responsibilities: Some one is involved in crime, drug dealing and all the bad stuff that the relatives of these young men know about. I dont see how the police are to blame for this. Why wait for a policeman to do the investigation? In this video alone you can see how Somalis silence the truth.Why are we also protecting the murderers? Hand them in to the police one by one till none is left. You can't just keep quiet and watch because you fear for your life.
May Abdinasir rest in peace. The big problem with the documentary is that it places blame largely on the police. People should realize it is in the police's interest to close cases, the problem is the witness factor. If one of the three talked, then he should testify in open court and see the murderer convicted. Also, the biggest problem with the somali community is they always act like their kids are angels who do no damage. Abdinasirs story is not unique, i know many young somalis with above average intelligence and who are easily college material, but decide to waste their lives selling drugs and not investing in their future. That being said, snitching is the opposite of cowardice.
@anne , its not good to talk about things that we both know don't exist. BTW ,There is no internet cafe in fort mcmurray . don't bring cabiies into this, they are grown old men and women who work hard for their money. They have no part in this. This is about young men who resort to selling drugs. Very sad, these kids have families, a child of a mother. No place for ignorance please.
It is sad to see young kids killing one another this way in the streets of Canada. What also amazes me is how little the parents know about about their kids. As for the two girls in jail, come on!!! how can you expect anyone will believe you were carrying a dead fish loaded with drugs for a tolal stranger. I hope the rest of my Somali community will take a lesson through this tragedy and get involved in their kids' lifes. We know how to give birth, but we don't know how to raise them. I guess the mother of the killer is also thinking that her kid is a good kid. Lets wake up people. We had already distoyed one perfectly good country, lets not repeat stupidty every where we go.
Abdi Farah
Since this community has no protection from law enforcement, it should be allowed to establish its own policing system, like a Guardian Angels who would patrol their tough neighbourhoods, clean them off drugs and gangs. Alternative policing is the key.
May god forgive him and grant him heaven...this is a very sad story..i knew Abdinasir and upon hearing his death i was mortified..why the RCMP hasnt done anything about it i will never know but the canadian police need to take a better approach in finding who his killers are..this has gone on way too long and something needs to be fixed..these boys need a better rolemodel..the parents need to step up their game..i honestly dont think they are doing a good of a job raising these boys...enough is enough the somali community needs to do something now
Just one thing l really hope that you CISKA never lost a son that would be the worth thing ever,honestly you comment made me very sick
I have lived in Ft. McMurray for 27 years and seen many people from all over the world come here to take what they can from the community and give nothing back. While I'm sure there are peaceful, honest Somalis I have yet to meet them. I have no sympathy for this young man who came here to deal drugs, nor for his foolish parents that chose to hide their heads in the sand regarding his involvement in criminal activities. They were more than willing to accept car payments from him, and watch him parade around with wads of cash all from his "job at Tim Horton's". These people let their son down, plain and simple. They blame the "bad crowd" he was involved with. Did it not occur to them he was himself bad?
Wow, you are just heartless.
omg this gurl is a dyme in my point of view she does not deserve to be jailed iman i will miss u honey
If we do not care about immigrants then the immigrants should go back to the country they came from...i think Canada cares very much about anyone who is a citizen and you are quite ignorant for saying such a thing. If ANYONE in Canada is contributing to taxes and a working class citizen they have respect....
Great piece of journalism, but Fifth Estate you definately have your blinders on!!!! I live in Fort McMurray and have so for 5 years and my husband has been here for 15, you are the company you keep, if you are involved with crime, no matter what colour or religion you practice, in due time you will either end up in jail or 6 feet under.
I cannot believe that people are so naive to think that people are murdered for no reason, there is usually a "trigger" for such an act. In response to this being a colour or race issue...my friend...i dont care if you are green, blue, black or yellow...if you are murderered...80% of the time there is a reason for it.
People seek refuge to Canada on a daily basis, so if you do not like our justice system or bring your way of life and corruption to our country...LEAVE!!!!! No one is holding you here, just go back to where you came from. And in all honesty, when refugees and immigrants come to Canada they get access to the same healthcare and emenities as those who are already citizens.
My heart goes out to any mother and/or family dealing with the loss of a child, i cannot even attempt to understand your pain...but do not bash the country that let you in to try and better your lives...that is pure ignorance and is disgusting!!!
Everyone has choice in the direction of their lives...you reap what you sow...
Out of the countless communities in Canada. Why do so many Somalis fail. That is the question you should be asking. Why in a country of opportunities do they descend into drug dealing and crime. Is the state of their ruined nation enough problematic for them.
Thank you Fifth Estate for shedding some light on this polarizing issue, I'm a 27 Somali-Canadian who is familiar with some of the young men that were taken, and despite the short comings of these young men, they were people who went down the wrong road, no deserves to die the way they did at the end of a gun. Law Enforcement in Alberta should be ashamed in how they have handled these cases, and that being said we as a COMMUNITY need to assist the authorities in such cases because they cant and wont do it alone.!
Y.K
There is no finger pointing in the cases of these young murdered Somali men except for self-responsibility. As immigrants from a war ravished country we come to the West to live a better life. Yet these young males choose a path that ends up leaving them facing severe repercussions (jail or murder). I'm sure there are plenty of positive young somali men who are law abiding citizens that work hard and take advantage of the resources given to them why couldn't they follow those footsteps?
I do agree justice should be served to those who commit these crimes, however how can the police do that if everyone is afraid of "snitching" and coming forward? These young men are not kids they make life changing decisions to be part of a culture that they know leads to two destinations so instead of pointing fingers at outside sources there needs to be responsibility within the community.
May Allah have mercy on the souls of the deceased.
Thanks to fifth estate for this story. I feel very bad for all the families that had to go through this. No need to blame the police for the deaths of these kids. The problem is deep rooted and we need to address many issues before pointing the finger at the police. Somalis need to take the share of the blame and raise their kids in ways that will make them productive members of the society. That is where it starts.
In Toronto we've lived in public housing next to a Somali family with many children. They were not friendly, felt they were better than "whites" and many times we've noticed, they laughed at the "whites" behind their back, mocking them. They stuck together. Their children were very inconsiderate and rude to their neighbours, trespassing on their property, hanging around smoking pot.... finally, many of us just moved away. Being an emigrant myself, that kind of behavior was NOT how you create a better place for yourself. Has NOTHING to do with one's color. Don't even try that one! It's the attitude, willing to adjust to new people, customs and a country. You've an attitude, you'll get into all kinds of situations attracting the same people to you. Everyone creates their own reality. That is my experience.
There is luxury in self reproach. When we blame ourselves, we feel no one else has a right to blame us. so first place those who live ghetto place or goverment housing your kids are more likely to be drug dealers and more likely die early thats how they see life easy money be gangast drug dealer end up where they belong surprise eh
A Mother, you are so ignorant to what actual goes on. What G baby and his friends are involved in. The family states that they know who killed him, why then do they not tell the police? Its weird that all of his friends are either dead or in jail because they choose to live the life of criminals and get what they deserve.
Somalis are the problem, not the system. All these boys grew up here and they are Canadians, half of them never even seen Somalia before. Somalis are a messed up community so many examples in the docu showed us this. It's Somalis killing Somali's and no justice system will help us if we cannot help ourselves.
This documentry is nothing short plain racism cards played by the canadian judiciary system which is basid on recism.....How in the world you could have 30+ fatalities and no single arrest..come on who are we kidding here...Canada is today where America was some 200 years ago...Shame...Shame.
What canada Did about this?
NON. Zib
tank u cbc but the police and goverment dont care about somalian young people in alberta they just prove it how they want to make us look like whey all
gangters r.i.p to all my brothers and god bless their souls police never now wath happen when a somaliand person die
Sad! I received a call from a non Somali friend, about what I missed on CBC last night, was speechless. I pray for our Somali boys.
if only u had a heart then there would be one less cold hearted person off our streets. I think his life will be cherished for a very long time. and this is coming from a 7th grader.
g-baby was like a brother to me i love him soo much and to hear that he has passed away my heart went into shock he will be loved ='( THIS IS FOR U ABDINASIR I LOVE U SOOO MUCH
I have heard some people refer to gang members and/or drug dealers as nice people with nice families, I was apalled to hear this. These are not nice people, or they only think of their families and not the community or country at large. We have to work together to make a better country. I am sure that many kids involved in crime may be respectful and loving toward their families. I have met a few Somali young men thru my work and I was impressed that were so very polite and friendly. As for anyone dealing in criminal activities they have to know that this is very wrong and that dealing with drugs, gangs or violence only tears apart society. We must all care about each other to make this country safe and a good place to live.
After watching the program. I wanted to thank the CBC's Fifth Estate for this coverage. My heart goes out the families of these young men, who were killed. Being young Somali youth seems to be somehow synonymous with trouble. But, it is only human nature that we gravitate towards the heartbreaking stories. Rather,than the uplifting ones. It is good that we can see ourselves in these lights. It is too easy to blame, however, more logical to understand causes and outcomes. May Allah have mercy on AbdiNassir. His murder is still a crime on Canada soil and that should make every CANADIAN question the ethics and complacency of Alberta law enforcement. Courage over fear.
You need to have balls to ask Real Questions. Stop beating around the BUSH. They are not telling the truth, everyone including them knows this. Goddamn. You're using clips from "The Real Toronto", if it was done in this format there would be nothing to watch.
Why are the somolies doing so little to help the authorities? It seems it's all you hear is how bad Canada is to them and nothing about what the are doing to rectify their situation. How many other immigrant groups have this problem?
I want say the root couse of this problem is when we come to Canada we couldn't afford to rent,so we applied low income housing and who lives there "The Projects" drug dealers or the way my community activist put it in "THE CANADIAN WAY OF LIVE" kids go to school with them, play with them and become one of them. Also,most of fathers were kicked out the house(good or bad reason).Then you have single mothers trying to rise kids specially(boys) on her own and you see the result. The sad thing of all,is the insant kids pay the price becouse of the environment they were rise. Therefore, I'm disappointed with CBC for batching the wound and not adressing the real issues.
May Allah have mercy on Abdinasir and all of the other youth who passed away in Edmonton and FM.
Families will miss them. No one has the right to take another person’s life. And the one who killed him will kill more. Have some respect for him and for his family.
Let's be real for a moment, DRUGS had everything to do with all those deaths and maybe some were innocent; GOD knows. The fast life has a short road and two ugly sides...1...JAIL...2...DEATH. In order for the Somali Community to safe the next generation we need to talk about DRUGS, ALCOHOL and SEX.
My heart goes out to this family for their loss. But this goes on through the generations and it is not only Somali families. I was born in Canada, am 52 years old and most of the people that I grew up with are deceased from drug involvement/use, or alcohol abuse. The drug problem is not restricted to Somalis. It covers all generations, walks of lives. It does not matter if you are born Canadian, Somali, East Indian etc. As the youth worker said on the program "wake up and smell the coffee". We are all born innocent. Certain circumstances,or who we chum with, may change our life paths. As for the RCMP....it does not matter what nationality you are....if you are involved with drugs and die because of your involvement, it is one more off their list of problems to deal with.
This video will go over a lot of people's heads...
CBC isn't trying to help us...They don’t give a shit about Abdinasir (may Allah have mercy on his soul)...they never made this documentary because they’re trying to solve his case...truth be told, they could care less about him or us....All they're doing is shining a light on Somali people - attempting to make us look like we are “THE” problem in Canadian society...
Ask yourself what exactly this video has accomplished? It sent out one message to all its viewers...Somali people are violent people that have somehow entered the Canadian society; brining all their aggression and hostility with them...The media wants to make us look like were all “gangsters” and “thugs”.
My sympathies to the young man's family, but as a skilled union worker who works mainly in the oil sands of Fort McMurray. What was this young man doing in such a place? It was clear to me that he was indeed not a skilled worker. I've seen a lot of chaos and drug use in that town which is why I do not live there anymore...its like being on another planet in that town. But in this young man's case, I have to assume it is drug related. It is about time news like this hits mainstream media...good work.
it takes a village to raise child(African say), we are also a product of our environment (North American say), god bless.
it takes a village to raise child(African say), we are also a product of our environment (North American say), god bless.
This is a lesson to be learned from..
yeah so the breif intro writing thing that says "his own way from the rough streets of Toronto's St. Jamestown neighbourhood" its not St. Jamestown that is a neighbourhood downtown its just Jamestown cresent. thnx May Allah Grant Abdinasir Janaah, Ameen
I lived in Edmonton on Northside for most of my life and seen the influx on Somalians to Canada. These parents often are struggling to deal with living in a new country, many have no support network; no family, not a strong community support connection. These parents are often caught up in their own issues they fail to see their children are just as equally struggling. They think their children should be grateful, abide my all traditions, be honor students. But a lot of the parents are often unavailable emotionally and sometimes physically and their children are left to their own demise. Parents are so emotionally detached that many of these kids are doing things they should not be right under their parents eye. Tis sad!
I found this documentary to be characteristic of Canada to camouflage the systematic racism that its government and institutions so quietly maintain. In the 1980’s and 1990’s the media would parade similar documentaries showing (representing not even a fraction of the community) Jamaican youths being killed in the “streets”. And parallel to the reporter in this documentary, they would cleverly allude to the inability of Jamaican youths (many of whom where born in Canada) to assimilate into the Canadian system because they were somehow importing the “lawlessness” and “violent” culture from their native country. There were also numerous documentaries that featured indigenous communities who too were failing to integrate into the Canadian society and resulted with similar fate. Now, it is the Somali community who are unable to compromise their Somali (Muslim) culture with that of a Canadian one.
Why don’t we ever see documentaries that show how institutionalize racism operates in this country and how that said system marginalizes and shut out Black and Indigenous youths from opportunities.
Allahu Naxirsto Abdinasir Abdulqadir Dirie we are mourning till we join u its sad how u left wish u didn't leave so early
This is a tragedy for the family, but it is not a surprising ending. This young man (not a "boy" as the documentary described him) who had previously been arrested for cocaine trafficking (a serious crime) and by all accounts (except of course to his family who claims he is an innocent) was a drug dealer who made a choice to live outside the law and unfortunately this choice cost him his life like so many other Somali young men who chose lives of crime and easy money rather than working for a living in Alberta where they could all have secured real jobs albeit for less money. Many other Somalis have made lives in Canada without turning to drug dealing. It is ridiculous to assume all young Somali men are drug dealers just as it is ridiculous to suggest that somehow "society" or law enforcement failed Abdinisir. And it is equally ridiculous to feel any pity for his sister who is a convicted drug courier rightly imprisoned in Jamaica.