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No End in Sight

March 14, 2008 10:13 AM

The first film of its kind to chronicle the reasons behind Iraq's descent into guerilla war, warlord rule, criminality and anarchy, NO END IN SIGHT is a jaw-dropping, insider's tale of wholesale incompetence, recklessness and venality.

Based on over 200 hours of footage, the film provides a candid retelling of the events following the fall of Baghdad in 2003 by high ranking officials such as former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Ambassador Barbara Bodine (in charge of Baghdad during the Spring of 2003), Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, and General Jay Garner (in charge of the occupation of Iraq through May 2003), as well as Iraqi civilians, American soldiers and prominent analysts.

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Comments

Dale wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:01 AM

Having just watched this film I cant help but wonder if it would ever be shown on network tv in the US
during primetime ?

Joseph Quesnel wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:01 AM

The only "jaw dropping" aspect of this documentary is its demonstration that CBC is simply unable to detach itself from its obsession with the anti-Bush narrative. Seriously people-- diversify your ideologies in your documentaries. I am sick of my tax money to fund another hate-Bush fest.

I am fond of Bush and it would be nice if you were capable of broadcasting documentaries that actually presented other perspectives on his administration. During the last election, you had quite the field day with anti-Bush and anti-Cheney documentaries. Then, your patently unfair Sticks and Stones about Fox. Maybe you should look in the mirrors. I think Fox has more liberal commentators than you have conservative ones, and Rex Murphy does not count. He is just sane.

I just want diversity, as your code of journalistic standards requires. Is that too much to ask from my tax-funded "public" (haha) broadcaster?
Remember-- you're not only supposed to speak for left wing Torononians, but EVERYBODY..

Doug Ross wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:02 AM

It is absolutely unthinkable that a small group of incompetents can wreak such havoc on a country, a region and ultimately the whole world. Where are the checks and balances? Where is the morality of it all? Where is goodness? How do egomaniacal and uninformed poor decison-makers get to such places of import? Woe betide us all!!!

g sylvester wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:03 AM

'no end in site' should be loaned to pbs for a greater chance that it will be seen by american a larger american audience. As an alternative, maybe this documentary could become a video podcast available from CBC.ca

Rob wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:03 AM

Why is it that Clinton was impeached for a scandle where he lied about an affair with an intern, and then Bush can create the biggest social and economic mess in a long time if not ever and still be in office?

bpc wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:03 AM

How is it that only now are the american public only becoming aware of the Bush's administration incompetencies, and yet the still will not hold him a war criminal even with this knowlege

jim senka wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:03 AM

let me be the first to congratulate cbc on this very important documentary.
i suggest we pass this link on to all our friends in the us .
fitch

Zoran wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:04 AM

This documentary is fantastic. It showcases the vulgar disregard for human life and suffering the Bush Administration has. Certainly highlights the fact that the U.S. is seen as the terrorist in the world, and why. Very scary.

We need to sharpen our foreign relations operating theatre, in dealing with the U.S. especially in view of their operations in Iraq/ Kosovo/ etc. Injustice abounds.

Phyllis Gillanders wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:04 AM

I cannot believe the incompetence of the American administration. They have created the insurgency with their foolish decisions and as a result life for the Iraqis is hell on earth. Since there is already a civil war, and the very presence of the American army only seems to create more insurgents, it is really time for them to leave. How could it be any worse than it is now?

Cathy wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:04 AM

The Bush Administration MUST be charged with Crimes Against Humanity for this inhumane debacle in Iraq, this rash inconsideration for the quality of human life in a foreign country that they illegally invaded for selfish oil interests and under fraudulent pretenses.
The Canadian government must stop aligning with this evil administration. Our presence in Afghanistan is a similar crime and a winless battle.

Beverly wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:04 AM

How can this be happening on our watch and more importantly what can I as one person do about it. As a Canadian I worry about our participation in Afghanistan and any resemblance we may have to the US by the rest of the world. When I look back on history I am shocked that people watched the Holocaust and other atrocities unfold and did nothing. Now I see how it happens and I don't know what to do other than watch and be very sad.

Lenora E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:07 AM

It is absolutely amazing what atrocities can be commited in the name of 'freedom and democracy" Lets see, Iraq is home to 20% of the worlds oil and Darfur is not. I think I see a pattern. What a bunch of pompous , self serving , morally bereft excuses foor leadership. Regardless of how inept our poloticians can be, I am thankful that Canada doesn't have the wherewithall to run roughshod over another country's autonomy.

Gary Sweet wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:08 AM

It becomes more apparent with each passing day how the US Govt under Bush is determined to destroy the peace of the world with their apparent ignorance and arragance. I have believed for quite some time that there was a story that we as the general public were going to hear that would only confirm what many have believed , and that is that the war in Irac was and is a huge mistake. I just wonder if everyone that has watched this excellent documetary is as sickened as I am to see what is really going on. As always CBC does wonderfull job in bringing this to us. Unfortualtely I would expect very few Americans will ever see it.

reginald burns wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:10 AM

i missed part of it but a great documentary on the war in iraq. ive always thought that the war in iraq was not about oil or anything else other than raising the price of haliburton stock and making a ton of money for the stock holders. why din't the admin not let the inspectors finish their job of inspecting for weapons in iraq. they brought them out because they knew they wouldn't find any weapons and their reason for war was blown. can anybody tell me why the three musketeers were not impeached. is their an end to this debacle. has anybody ever asked the question we are protecting american interest what that interest is . soon bush will be out of office and we will see if anything changes . i hope it does for the sake of the iraqui people . i rest my case .

sage wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:11 AM

What a sad thing that has gone on in the raped and ransacked country of Iraq. It seems unreal, that such blatant crime has taken place in Iraq done by the United States government. And... Gone unpunished. I guess one can say, my opinions are bitter. And im not out protesting on the streets. But I honestly believe that everyone who can see that the blind are leading the blind, has a duty to, for the very least pipe up and say something. Hopefully this documentary opened one or two peoples eyes. It opened mine. CBC, keep up the good work

Lauren wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:11 AM

To paint the operations in Iraq as the result of incompetence or arrogance misses the point. The administration had a purpose and they executed on it, they opened Iraq for corporate profit without government regulation. All costs of the operation were borne by the taxpayer and all profits were gained by private corporations since the military had been privatized. Cheney won. Halliburton won. The people who lost don't matter, they didn't own shares.

Keith Koetter wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:16 AM

Pres Bush rather enjoys declaring to the masses, the he is the Commander In chief, yet he appears to have been total oblivious to what was unfolding in Iraq. His uninformed decisions have been the DIRECT cause of the loss of far more lives in Iraq, both Iraqi and American, than could ever be pinned on Saddam.

His wake of uncaring destruction will leave Iraq in upheaval and disarray for decades to come. What Bush has done in Iraq is of no less consequence than what Saddam did, nor, for that matter, what Hitler did in different times. Sure the list of specific crimes may vary slightly, but Bush is a criminal and should be tried for war crimes. But I fear that there is no one in the UN, or on the face of the planet for that matter, that has the balls to take up that cause.

Will Bush be allowed to drive off into the sunset in his gas guzzling cowboy 4x4, believing he actually did the world some good, or is there someone out there willing to make him accountable for his actions?

v mulhall wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:16 AM

Very good doc could you submit it to the PBS net in the US ? America needs this

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David wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:18 AM

It made me gag to see the faces of these important people in Washington. Sometimes I find myself sympathize numerous suicide bombers who did not possess any means to express their anger and frustrations. I only saw the statistics on these suicide bombers, but now I understood what triggered this tragic onslaught.

While watching this documentary, I seriously questioned the validity of democracy. I always questioned the quality of so called 'politicians', but it motivated me to pay more attention to politics to monitor their activities.

I can not imagine what the Iraqis have to put up with in daily basis. And I think this idiotic occupation of Iraq by US, ironically, will permanently put us in danger of facing the war in terror. Thank you.

K. Irvine wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:18 AM

Does anyone think, that replacing Jay with Bremner, was perhaps a way to extend the occupation? When all the Civil and Military advisors, say it's a bad idea to disband the Iraqi army, and no one listens...to the people you have put on the ground...what could possibly be the agenda?? There was no priority put on restructing Irag or protecting any cultural sites.
What could possibly the agenda?

1.8 trillion dollar...unbelievable.

Sonny wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:24 AM

The American society is as poignant and admirable as it is an example of extreme stupidity, arrogance, and corruption.

It is so unfortunate that millions of people and arguably the world has to pay for the greed of a few.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Bremer, and Wolfowitz - when will these individuals be brought to trial for the most severe war crimes of all time?

If there is ever such a thing as retribution, judgment, or karma in this world or the hereafter - these individuals will pay for their heinous crimes. This is the only consolation I can have to a society unwilling to take these individuals out of power.

It is certainly daunting when society is more concerned with adultery in politics and the impeachment of those than the obvious crimes against humanity.

Keith Hobson wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:27 AM

An excellent documentary. The story was as informative with the interviewees as it was with those who declined comment.

The great tragedy of the Bush admistration legacy in Iraq will be that Rumsfled, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bush,Pearl, Rove, Bremer, and Rice ( and other lesser mortals) will never see jail time. They committed war crimes as potent as any we have seen in the last century. Instead, they will enjoy fat pensions and the proceeds of other opportunities afforded by the spoils of war.

The image of a grinning Rumsfeld mouthing the line abnout carrying vases during the looting phase of the war should haunt us all.

Craig Osborn wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:31 AM

Just additional confirmation that we live next to the craziest country on the planet today. They truly are a fearful bunch.

Dave wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:40 AM

Excellent excellent documentary.

If anyone wants to find out just exactly what a complete mess the war in Iraq really is you need look no further than this doc.

I had opinions and observations about Bush's inner circle before the war. They were pretty much confirmed by this documentary. Just about every one of Don Rumsfeld or Paul Wolfowitzs' media responses to the goings on of the war come off as looking like absolute and complete uninformed idiots. The ignorance and hubris shown by those in high level of command is simply stunning.

The documentary left me angry at watch the smug George Bush declare in his phoney down home way "and most of all we are bringing freedom to Iraq" I wanted smack him.

How anyone in the United States could have voted for this idiot or his Polit Bureau of fools is beyond me.

Leonard wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:48 AM

I was very intrigued by this documentary and I strongly feel that the entire Bush Administration should have their feet held to the fire and taken to the Hague and charged with war crimes against humanity.

How can the entire world be Blinded by stupidity and brainwashed by what is reported in the news and in the press. This is a joke. Why are more documentries like these not aired on the 6:00 news? The blood and death's of American's and Iraqui's and the billions of dollars stolen from hard working American tax payers not to mention the billions stolen from Iraq's is unaccounted for nor will it ever be.

What country in this world will have the guts to stand up for the silent majority and bring these cowards to justice. We are all paying the price for our silence. Just look at the price of gas and food lately, not to mention the downward trend in the economy. Did all this just happen by chance you think? You mean to tell me that no one saw this coming? I guess that we all have been brainwashed real well.

Thank you, and keep up the good work and please try airing documentaries like these more often, they will never be aired in the US that's for sure.
Leonard

D Tedesco wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:49 AM

I've always considered myself an informed individual, bothering to know what goes on locally, nationally and internationally.

And I've long since condemned the US invasion of Iraq; clear on the fact that this was an invasion of, and not a (justifiable) war with...

And yet I apparently knew nothing - really nothing - until now; until seeing this documentary.

The entirety of this US-inflicted wrong seemed easier to ingest when it boiled down to insider construction contracts, oil control or even exacting "Daddy's revenge".

I never once understood just to what extent inflated egos and blatant incompetence played a role.

How the US isn't brought before a global tribunal and charged with war crimes is beyond me.

As far as I see, every family member of any US soldier served, serving or lost in service, should see GWB personally charged with depraved indifference to human life.

Speaking from Canada, I can only urge all Canadians to demand a re-working of our relationship with the US, and at every level.

I'm no fool; I know how trade-entrenched we are with our southern neighbours. But Iraq is one issue that Canada's stand on, MUST be driven by more than economics.

Shaun G wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:51 AM

This tied even more facts together. Everyone should be made aware that the US war in Iraq is not meant to be won, it is meant to be sustained for profit.

Ask. Where does 1.86 trillion dollars come from? It comes from the world banking dynasties funneling it into the US central bank. Understand that EVERY dollar borrowed from the central bank is loaned with interest. There is nothing more profitable then war.

The destabilization of Iraq is controlled and done on purpose. Statements made in this documentary add facts to that. The disbanning of the army being the most direct, with completely obvious consequences.

The assassination of the UN expert from Brazil is the next. Someone was on the ground who could report on and contribute to fixing this mistake. But is killed, and at the same time the event provides leverage to forward the agenda of destabilization. I mean, how did a truck with that much explosives get inside "the green zone"? I would like to see more evidence from this incident.

There are people behind the Bush administration guiding this war in the pursuit of pure, inhumane power and profit.

Walter wrote:

March 17, 2008 1:09 AM

I think this documentary was insightful, for it highlighted not only the completely misguided policies of the Bush administration towards Iraq but also the largely malicious and incompetent character of most of those who were in charge.

It seems rather ironic that those directly responsible for the atrocities and the full fledged insurgency in Iraq, like Bush and Rumsfeld (dodged war drafts ) and always managed to pass the buck down the command structure or onto the expendable foot soldiers, while they themselves professionally engaged in operations of deliberate deceit and misinforming the US public to further their own hegemonic and imperial ambitions.

I am not surprised though about the hegemonic impulses of US administrations,after all the plan to topple Saddam had been in the works since 1990 (The New American Century Project under Wolfowitz). But as a great power to entirely rely on hard power (military) to battle the insurgency seems total folly and futile. It is known that winning the Iraqi people`s minds and hearts, was something the British at least tried in their areas of occupation (Basra , Southern Iraq) whereas Bush remained completely arrogant, seemingly or insanely driven by a blind uncritical commitment to fulfill their manifest destiny in the world by whatever means necessary.

This documentary really showed how little they care about people or countries with reasonable objections or about the improper conduct of war and the lack of post conflict preparation. I think the documentary also correctly highlighted that Iran stands to be the main beneficiary of the invasion, seeing their Shia brethren in Iraq take control of Baghdad under US auspices. Again quite an irony that America`s arch nemesis reap the spoils of war in that way, while US is battling Iraqi militants daily.

One thing the documentary though should have highlighted is whether democracy ( if intended at all) can be imposed on a people who have only known in recent times known and experienced forms of government with strong autocratic political figures at the helm, like under the constitutional monarchy (1932 -1958) with the king or President Saddam`s tyrannical Baath regime (1979 - 2003). The quagmire in Iraq doesn`t bode well for promoting democratision in the region, because of the deterring image of misery, chaos and hardship it has caused in the Arab - Persian ( global )mind.

If you look at Iran this has galvanized the clerics there into defending their regime at all costs and basking in the failures of imperial American adventurism. Overall I think its great that as Canadians (like Europeans etc) we can consider ourselves to be lucky to be able access critical media, so we get a wider array of information and can view international affairs issues from different vantage points. Americans in contrast haven`t got that option.

There is no muck raking media, and I find this belies the problem of why morally bankrupt Bush and his corrupt cohorts can get away with murder, without fearing a real upheaval or public backlash in USA, even the Democrats out of fear of being labeled unpatriotic have toed along the government line. How can America talk about democracy to others when it only professes an imperial presidency of deceit and lies that disregards the US citizens and the world and is only bent on expanding the profits of Enron and Haliburton, defense industries etc ( through all means including starting and waging war).

Moreover I think the documentary should have also discussed if the insurgency and evidence itself warrants to haul G Bush and his criminal White house cohorts before international war crimes tribunal. Many in the world would agree about such a prospect, given their crimes against humanity and against the American people.

A. Miller wrote:

March 17, 2008 1:24 AM

This is a powerful documentary and it is too bad it did not go on to win an Academy Award. A real eye-opener and frightening in some ways. How can the elected government leaders of a "democracy" get away with misleading their own people, condone the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and send a country back to the stone age without facing criminal charges ? In my opinion, all those responsible for starting this illegal war should be facing war crime charges in The Hague.

Brian Quring wrote:

March 17, 2008 1:38 AM

"No End in Sight" is another confirmation that the United States of America is a nation that has lost it's moral compass. The incompetence of the people "running" the post-war effort is jaw-dropping. The Iraq war was initiated by Bush to colonize the country, and secure cheap oil, and the opposite has happened.

Bringing democracy to the Iraqi people was never on their agenda. The facts in this documentary speak for themselves. I hope it is not too late for citizens of the U.S. to wake up, and realize that not everyone wants to emulate them, their life-style or government.

Sabina Abrams wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:13 AM

I found the program very well done considering the obvious constrictions that were most certainly placed on all who were invoved in this documentary.
I recently finished reading a book written by
Rajiv Chandrasekaran, published in 2006. The book was called Imerial Life In The Emerald City, and presented a remarkably similar picture. Very interesting reading and if even half of that which was written, was true, it relealed that what occurred in Iraq since America's claim of victory in March 2003 was very thoroughly planned by the inner circle of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Bremer and any attempts by anyone or anything were removed one way or another. Their subsequent claims that now they realized that mistakes had unfortunately made but the overall mission was a success. No doubt!

Kurt Karlemon wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:20 AM

Great documentary movie that I hope a lot of people are able to see. There are even more information in Naomi Kleins book "the shock doctrine" It's a chapter in the book that's not only talks about about how badly the War was handled. She also writes about all those companies who profits from this War and it's possible there were no mistakes made. It's maybe all part of the disaster capitalism that the US gouverment backed by big oil and other companies is involved in.

Barb wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:28 AM

I am no foreign policy expert. I have no experience in the military. I've never been to the Middle East and likely will never have the opportunity. And yet even I would know the consequences of such actions as taken by Messrs Rumsfeld and Bremer.

Fundamentalism is embraced by those with nothing else to hold on to. We saw this in Iran. Facing the tyranny of the Shah who's response to opposing views was assasination and excution, an entire nation chose the promise of fundamentalism.

What more could be expected by a people attempting to survive chaos but to align themselves with anyone willing to deliver on America's unkept promise of peace and freedom?

This is the reason that I have continued to support Canada's role in Afghanistan. We entered that conflict promising to depose a ruthless regime and create an environment where freedom and democracy could take root. For us to abandon the mission, would be to abandon that promise and we would see rather fertile ground for a hatred of the West and an even more vehement form of fundamentalist rule.

Norman Amundson wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:59 AM

This is so incredible! This explains so much of what has been happening. How can the Americans possibly find their way out of this self-inflicted crisis. There is a real need here for some critical reflection.

lawrence knox wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:03 AM

INCREDIBLE!!!! How is it that the American journalistic community who have been embedded and lived and existed through this world have not

Kate wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:10 AM

This documentary chronicles the events that took place and were made public at the time. I don't understand how Bush got re-elected and remains in office to this day. I hope this, the US economy, the US actions' effect on gas prices, the US reputation throughout the world and the US self analysis brings Obama into presidency. He should be granted complete non-partisan support. I suspect he's a good, intelligent man who will use all the resouces around him before taking irreversible actions - unlike the idiot in office now.

The excellent documentary explains to me that the motive behind invasion of Iraq was to flex muscle, control gas reserves, and an opportunity to send US corporations into the country to pad the wallets of white house connections. (Haliburton).

I hope the US can turn itself around but I have a bad feeling about it.

Kate wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:11 AM

I was sickened by this show. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and friends should be charged for their evil, arrogance, incompetence or ignorance. Do Americans know this is what happened/is happening? Policy must be changed so so few can no longer have so much power to affect the lives the the planet earth.

E . Hughes wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:12 AM

No End in Sight, You are RIGHT probably not any time soon.

It will take the next President to bring the US troops home and then we will have a civil war for 2-3-5 years maybe longer. Number of Iraq dead; most liklely in the millions over the years. Poor people.

That will be the George Bush legacy, God Bless America...in God we Trust..... give me a break. I feel sad, very SAD for all the wasted lives and and all the injured men and women soldiers. I grew up during the Vietnam war and thought this would never happen again in my life time. Great show.

lawrence knox wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:14 AM

INCREDIBLE!!!! How is it that the American journalistic community who have been embedded and lived and existed through this world have not presented this perspective to the American public. Are they that controlled by the adminstration of George W Bush or are outlets let CNN apart of the problem.

I challenge someone like Anderson Cooper, who up to now a person who I have viewed as an openminded fair journalist so controled by the American government. Why hasnt this documentary been shown to the Amercian public so they can get an outsid che perspective. Why hasnt Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama used this information to prove that the fab four, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice not openly challenge this administration. It proves to me and many Canadians that our neighbours to tje south are so out of control and non trustworthy with safeguarding all that the world once believed was worldly good.

Bill Farley wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:15 AM

A very scary documentary. In this age of instant communications, it is unnerving to know that in a major confrontation like Iraq the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. The Americans learned nothing from the Vietnam fiasco in that major policy decisions covering military operations were made by civilians at the top with no consultation with military personnel on the ground. In addition, like Vietnam, these civilians at the top had no military background whatsoever. This inner group, in my view, indirectly killed more American and coalition troops and Iraqi civilians thru their political agenda than all the insurgents put together.
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the like should be tried as war criminals.

Barbara E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:19 AM

From the beginning of Bush and the war, I did not believe his lies, and have constantly read and researched the disturbing information about Bush's gang, who have basically been lurking since the 60's and 70's.. so it wasn't long before you could easily find information about the gang who put Bush in place and controlled him.

If a middle aged Canadian woman knew the truth from the beginning, where were the American voters? They just don't care to look for the truth. And as I watched this documentary I was even more stunned to see all of these years of "mistakes" (I believe it was all intentional) revealed and put together so eloquently. It all falls into place.

I think all Americans should be forced to watch this documentary. They owe it to themselves, they owe it to the world. With the final tally likely to be $1.8 trillion, the U.S. will not get over this war, even if they leave now, for decades. Everyone who has a chance should research Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush and his dad, Wolfowitz and the rest, the fellows who designed this situation, and all their friends. Arrogant, greedy, dumb men, a gang who had something else in mind, for their own profits, and should never have been at the helm. Now they are all part of world businesses that are reaping the profits, and Iraq is ruined.

Worse, Bush and his cronies, and you can look this all up to see that these guys ARE all in businesses together that profit from the war, but I won't name them here, that are larger and more filthy rich than the imagination can take. They did it. If the next administration doesn't try to have these men put on trial, that will be a great disservice to Iraq and America.

This documentary is disturbing, real, and I hope CBC will repeat it many more times in the future, as I know Americans watch CBC. I feel very bad for Iraq. America must get a grip, put real people in charge, and rebuild that country, no matter what.
Try the site hereinreality as it's one place to start.

Charles Taylor wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:19 AM

What amazes me is that many Americans wanted to impeach Clinton (for having extra-marital oral sex in the White House) but not George Bush whose incompetence weakened his country economically and militarily, aided in the resumption of the cold war and in the resurgence of Russian influence, empowered Iran, made a mess of Iraq, and smarter people than I can add a good deal more to the list. I hope Americans get the chance to watch "No End In Sight"

Jim Fitzpatrick wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:20 AM

I feel sorry for the Iraqi people and can better understand their rage and hatred for Americans. I am further amazed that Bush and his pathetic cronies have escaped impeachment and prison for the lies and duplicity behind the invasion and for their complicity in helping to create the insurgence.

I am grateful that Canada was not dragged into this catastrophe.

MR.KK wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:26 AM

Everyone has a boss. So does George W. Bush. From the fact he didnt send his troops to protect 7000-year-long heritage of human kinds in Iraq, but just the Oil Ministry, we could tell he was working for his behind him. Who should he be?

Chairman MAO ZeTung was obviously a dictator too, but before he went into BeiPing (now BeiJing) in 1949, he even thought about ending the Chinese civil war by negotiation to protect historical relices of his own. Was George thinking of his own people addited to oil or just his boss in the group of same interests?

Everyone has a Dad. So does George W. Bush. He stated the war to get rid of Sadam to get some personal revenge just because Sadam tried to assassinate his Dad? But who started it to make this wacko and bandit Sadam become mad about not being able to run his bandit country? Why couldnt George try to assassinate this guy for personal reason by sending just some of his special forces instead of the whole troop, costing 1860 trillion dollars from all parties? Was he thinking of his own people? the taxer's money? the so-called "most-advanced democratic system so far"?

Think twice, Yankees. How could you vote this stupid guy for his presidency? Would you try to make the same mistake again this year? It's nothing to do with us on the surface. But it has influenced all of us in this Global Village" wherever we are: China or Canada.

M. Lutz wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:27 AM

Thanks for airing this excellent documentary.

If only there had been fewer yes-men at the top in the U.S. military command and the U.S. government departments, the men (Runsfeld, Wolfowitz), Cheney) who were running Bush and who were making the decisions about the Iraq invasion, might have been stopped in their tracks.

There was a bit of hope when listening in the documentary to the few who had spoken out at the time.

It seems that nothing ever changes.

James L. Byrd wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:36 AM

This film left me something at a loss for words.
I have to say that I was shocked at the level of poor planning, mismanagement and simply irrational thinking demonstrated on the part of the senior officials charged with the responsibility of the occupation and restructuring of Iraq. Most of the facts brought to light, such as an almost complete lack of pre-war planning for occupation and reconstruction, were things that just never even crossed my mind. I just took for granted that one of the most powerful nations on the planet would put a little more thought in to an action that would directly impact the rest of the world.

I very highly recommend this film.
I would especially say that anyone who thinks they know what is going on in Iraq will find this documentary to be quite enlightening. I truly thought I was informed and educated, as much as a private citizen can be, in regards to Iraq. Watching this film showed me just exactly how much I didn't know. So many of the events that were happening in Iraq during the initial occupation were glossed over by Rumsfeld and much of the media that I honestly felt shocked to learn of the extent of looting and social breakdown. The fact that this information is being relayed by the people who were actually a part of the events added a sense of power to the film that I was not expecting.

I really gained a lot of respect for some of the people tasked with the rebuilding of Iraq during the early days; individuals such as Ambassador Bodine and General Garner who truly and sincerely wanted to help in ways which were best for the Iraqi people. I also lost a lot of respect for individuals such as Rumsfeld, Bremer and Bush.

I think that what is happening in Iraq will be remembered as one of the saddest events in world history. I am thankful, however, that we have film makers with enough courage and vision to no flinch from the truth so that we will always have an impartial account of what happened in Iraq.

Sincerely,

James L. Byrd

Sweet Jane wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:47 AM

Thank you for airing this excellent documentary. It is the most informative program I have ever seen about Iraq, and I now feel that I finally understand in detail what went wrong.

I have daily contact with real, live Americans voters because they are always calling me up to sell me stuff. Before they have a chance to pitch, I strike first with oh so informative answering machine messages about the war. You've given me lots of new ammo. Cheers!

Dave S wrote:

March 17, 2008 5:54 AM

This was a great film. I see why it was nominated for an oscar. Unfortunately, they failed to touch on the most important aspect. It seemed as if everyone in this film that revealed all of the horrendous errors made by the administration are either incredibly naive or don't want to say what they really think. For instance - they are constantly claiming that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,...and the others, all made very stupid mistakes. One after another. The problem is that mistake or error implies that it didn't go as planned. But the administration has never admitted this. Why? Because things have gone exactly as they planned. Sure, eventually they may have taken actions to imply things haven't gone totally right, such as firing Rumsfeld. But would that have happened if public opinion was still on their side?

I think its much more likely that the administration knew exactly what would happen when they "liberated" Iraq from Saddam and they wanted the country to slip into chaos and anarchy. They wanted Iraq to crumble and break so they could start a new Iraq - their version - where their good friends get huge contracts to rebuild and the american taxpayer gets stuck with the bill.

Also, if they create an enemy, such as they did, they can continue to spin the news and convince the public that they should keep fighting. Why? Because they're war profiteers and they have many powerful friends in the weapons industry that need more $billions in their pockets.
Of course we can't forget the real reason they went there - OIL. This is the biggest money-grab/atrocity in the history of the world.
Excuse me, I have to go vomit.

Grey Taylor wrote:

March 17, 2008 12:13 PM

I have viewed over a dozen docs on Iraq from around the world, this film is at the forefront of all of them. When I watched the first two weeks of the primary battle, I knew that the military aspect of the war had been achieved. It is the postwar control that clearly defines actual victory and the use by Allied military command, of german/japanese troops was very common in postwar W.W.II, with positive results in maintaining civilian order.

Now the majority of regular Iraqi military & civilian government disliked the Hussian dictatorship and proved this by allowing the US & British troops to advance unopposed, except by the special republican guard & secret police.

So in late april 2003 you have an indigenous army of 300,000 that is volunteering to be under US military command, that is acceptable to the Iraqi people, effectively doubles your Coalition force to almost 600,000, or the amount recommended by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, back in the spring of 2002, and you still lose the postwar battle?!?!

Dian wrote:

March 17, 2008 1:01 PM

I agree with Dave S.

They didn't plan post-war because it turned out exactly as they planned it to!

They went there to steal Iraq's oil, not to liberate anyone!
The reason they want to stay there for years is because it will take that long to kill 80% of Iraqis! I read that a few years ago that they said they had to get rid of 80% of Iraqis.

And what about Blackwater? How come we don't hear anything more about them?
There were a few errors (I thought).

One was that Saddam killed thousands of his own people.
It was the US that was behind Iraq invading Iran. Then the US supplied both countries with weapons.

The Kurds who were killed, died of Cianide, which the US gave to Iran, not mustard gas that Iraq used!

The doc mentioned women being raped & murdered. It sounded like it was the Iraqis who were doing it. No! It was the US military doing it!

We keep hearing the US version of how the Sunnies & Shiias were always fighting. Not true!

Saddam said he would not hear about sects. He said, "We're all Iraqis!"

Iraqis all lived together in the same areas. Many married each other. No one asked what sect they were.
Its the US who is separating them!

Iraq was the most progressive middle east country in spite of US bombings & UN sanctions.

Women were encouraged to get an education & good jobs.
People went there from all over the world to study.

It kills me to read what the US has done to Mesopotamia, the libraries & museums!

But, the US thinks if they get rid of another countrie's culture & history, everyone will forget it!

Sorry, Bush! WE WON'T FORGET what you've done in Iraq & Afghanistan!

You & your ilk should be tried for war crimes. Why you haven't is beyond me!

The whole world should be outraged by what you've done.
And Canada is being taken over, too!

Why are we supporting the worst terrorists? ...the USA!

Edward wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:16 PM

This was a superb documentary.Now you should have someone do a similar program on the invasion (and I do mean invasion) of Afghanistan.

CJ wrote:

March 17, 2008 2:49 PM

This is a good documentary for people who have not been paying close attention to this war. As an avid reader of the blogosphere I have read many articles discussing these same issues. This documentary does a good job of linking the pieces together along with the expert commentary. PBS's Frontline has done some eye-opening productions as well and you can watch them on-line through their website.

But I disagree with the premise that arrogance and ignorance of the Bush Aministration is to blame for this disaster. Arrogance--sure--but ignorance? I don't buy it. Although I believe Bush is genuinely ignorant (the perfect puppet president), I can't believe the others are. I believe it's more sinister than that. Incompetence was a means to an end. It all boils down to power, money, and ideology and keeping it all where it's at. As long as this war keeps going certain sectors keep getting rich. The ongoing war also keeps fearmongering as part of the republican election strategy. Lets hope it doesn't work this time.

Atef Salih wrote:

March 17, 2008 3:47 PM

One of the greatest things I'm proud of as Canadian; is the quality of Journalism work the CBC produces.
Great document. Keep up the good work

Karl wrote:

March 17, 2008 4:58 PM

Perhaps a re-broadcast is in order for this documentary, say every week for the next year. Followed by Redacted (see interview with De Palma in special features)and finish off with Noam C. in Power & Terror. Perhaps repeated viewings could somehow be used as offsets---you know...offset the fact we did nothing (oops..I mean, I did nothing)

BARB E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 5:35 PM

Canada was kept out of the war in Iraq by a clear thinking Jean Chretien who stood up for what is right, when he defied President Bush at a time when it was not safe to do so, but he did. He stated his reasons clearly and he held up the values of Canadians. Chretien stood up to the U.S. on softwood too. He did the right thing, even under pressure, and I am grateful.

I shudder at the thought if our Prime Minister then, had been the present one, because this "new" one would have gone right along with Bush and his emissaries, just like he did when he compromised us in that all-for-show softwood maneuver, as soon as he got into power, two long years ago, giving Bush what he wanted.

Now, I think Canadians are figuring out just how lucky we were, and that two years is enough punishment time.

Yes, judging the "new" man, we would definitely be in Iraq, and it would be a lot more than 81.

That web site hereinreality.com helps links the people who would, and are, benefitting from the War in Iraq.. the Who's Who.

And another easy look, is to take a few seconds to google the PNAC. Just go for it. You'll quickly find out something amazing. The following men verify it themselves, that this war, was hoped for and planned. You can look at their website of the PNAC who clearly stated their goals of Americanizing the world. I'm not pulling your leg, this is all public information. Their information.

I still can't believe my eyes when I read their words. The document was signed June 3, 1997 .. look it up, it takes ten seconds to do so. It's undersigned men include: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, William J. Bennett, Dan Quayle and more, including the infamous Lewis Libby ("Scooter") the traitor, who did the treasonous act on behalf of his co-signer Vice Pres. Cheney by "outing" a top American female spy, Valerie Plame Wilson. This gang wanted revenge against her truth-telling U.S. Ambassador husband who spoke out, and wrote an editorial, proving the War in Iraq was unfounded, and proving that Bush lied in his state of the union address. So this gang punished Mr. Wilson for speaking the truth and got away with it. They got away with treason.. Libby got supervised release for the lesser act of making false statements to federal investigators. Heck, when the real law got mad at Martha for the same thing .. she got prison.

My late American Uncle, a very smart man, knew about this above gang long before the war, long before 911, so it's been many years of interesting reading for us, far scarier than any movie you can rent. Ask CBC to run this documentary again. Even myself, having had the time to read up on these truths about the Iraq War, this documentary makes things clear.

This documentary will give you one of your saddest days. But.. knowing... is better than not knowing. The truth is so important, it's everything, and we should all get our heads out of the sand. How did we get so smug, and allow profiteers to let innocent people get so hurt.

Have we lost our way?

Now that we know, should we admit that we wouldn't be in Afghanistan if it weren't for that pipeline that no one talks about? The U.S. went there and could have done a better job, but no, they instead couldn't wait to move on to Iraq, and left others with the Afghanistan mess. They were never interested in the people there, nor in catching their #1 fugitive there. So also google "War on Terrorism or Oil War? See the Map of the Pipeline!" and it will give you a new direction to start checking.

I don't know much, but I know something stinks. Why aren't we helping other countries who don't have proposed oil and gas pipeline access routes? There are people in countries that are in equal or greater need, with worse dictators and warlords. Our leaders and their cronies are purely interested in helping oil interests, and helping themselves to the bounty. They don't care who they destroy. This documentary proves that.

And if the world doesn't get our Alternative Energy ducks lined up, I'm sure Canada will be in this gang's sights within the decade. Although they'll probably want to take over our water first..

:o

Peace.

Barb E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 5:55 PM

New saying: "Make profits, without war"

In answer to those who have asked here, this documentary was shown on PBS last year, on the show called NOW, aired 20th of April 2007.

We could all ask CBC and PBS to play it again.. and again.

I like what lawrence said, that we should challenge a few of these "news" channels in the U.S. like CNN to show this amazing documentary. Americans need to know what they've done. The truth hurts but it must be told.

grant wrote:

March 17, 2008 6:20 PM

this documentary is incredible.journalism at its best.how can you get this story to the average american.i can,t see it ever happening.is it not too late?

B.E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 6:35 PM

Mr. Quesnel,

CBC is neither left nor right, if you watched you'd see the Conservative agenda is always rearing it's head on CBC.

This silly, constantly peddled right wing saying "liberal media" is a false, and purely propaganda spin, and should be examined further whenever spoken, since most of the so-called liberal media, in fact nearly all media, are owned by the right wing friends. That one's easy to look up.

CBC is probably free to write and show what people want to see, simply because they are not privately owned. Look up those newspapers and almost all of the U.S. media stations.. it explains why they allowed Bush and friends to get away with what they are doing. The media is controlled by a very few worldwide. We're lucky we still have CBC.

In looking up your name, I see this is your bag, that the truth is actually just some left wing spin machine, as I see in your Winnipeg Sun article. The right wing is so eager to spin, that you probably believe that everyone else is like that.

I feel fortunate to have an open mind, and the will, to really research, and think for myself, and to get the facts.

It seems as though the right wing died a while ago. In it's place, and the diehards won't admit it, or can't, because overseeing it is a group who wish to take advantage of the uninformed. That's an agenda that one can only equate with dragging us all into bad plans. They take advantage of the innocent, the uninformed and the impressionable. That's their bag. If you submit to such subservience, please open your eyes, give truth a chance. The truth is not a bad agenda. The other political parties do have more inclusive, honest and worthwhile agendas. If you think that sucks, that it's some sort of left or middle politic trick, then I don't know what to think of you. The public is trusting, and we see what happens when it is too trusting. So don't pick on the CBC for airing a show, which by the way, I don't think has anything to do with your tax money, since Ferguson funded this documentary out of his own pocket. But you want people to think that. That's just your spin. Hope nobody believes it, but then, they can look it up for themselves, if they have the time.

Dian wrote:

March 17, 2008 6:46 PM

PNAC
I forgot one point when I wrote this morning.
This all started long before Bush became Pres.
Has anyone heard of PNAC?
Project for a New American Century.
The original document is online. Just Google PNAC.
I'm amazed at how many people haven't heard of it.
All the 30 or so signees are at the bottom of the document.
Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bush, Pearl...etc.
They planned years ago how they were going to invade the middle east & eventually take over the world.
Wolfowitz even said (before 911) that what they needed was another Pearl Harbour. (page 51) Six months later they got their wish & did nothing to stop it!
And we seldom hear that the Bushes & bin Ladens started the Carlyle Group. No wonder he didn't want to catch bin Laden!
And then there's the Bilderberg Group...secret meetings...
I read recently that they would make sure oil went up to $200 a barrel by the end of this year.
Well... Harper is taking us down the tube with his friend, Bush!

Barb E. wrote:

March 17, 2008 8:51 PM

Dian,

I totally agree.

What Dian said about the PNAC is all true. They admit it.

And this documentary is all too true.

I wish so very much, that everyone would just simply look up these facts for themselves.

Thank goodness for this documentary and hopefully it will be viewed forever. Otherwise, history repeats itself.

And as D. Tedesco said, will the U.S. be brave enough to bring these men before a global tribunal and charged with war crimes?

Joseph Quesnel wrote:

March 18, 2008 1:13 AM

This is a response to B.E. from Calgary:

I don't think you have the "open mind" that you claim to have. If you did, you would see that CBC has problems in the slant of its documentary coverage. This is definitely one area where empirical data can be collected. Your problem is you cannot look at this from the point of view of someone who does not share your anti-Bush perspective.

I don't mind this doc airing at all. I just want diversity in docs being aired period. Take a look. Just go to the website of the Passionate Eye and Fifth Estate and count the number of anti-Bush Administration docs.

Now, this is a problem because CBC, in its own policies, is supposed to present "dissenting views" on all issues.
If you only broadcast docs that present one perspective, is that meeting this standard?

Looking at the responses here, you can see that CBC is only serving to "preach to the converted."

Here is an idea about the Iraq War. Much has been written about the number of states on the Security Council that benefitted from Saddam Hussein's regime. Through the discredited "Oil for Food" program, France, Russia and China ALL were implicated in receiving money for selling oil to Iraq. This, to many, suggests that the countries voting against the Iraq invasion had more of an "oil" motive for opposing the invasion than the U.S. had for invading. Why is this not being covered in CBC? There are documentaries about this. But, CBC is not interested in.

About tax money, CBC does spend money (our money) to purchase broadcasting rights for docs. I do not support my taxes going towards docs that are clearly tilted in one direction. I support CBC's own mandate of diversity. Once it fulfills, I will be happy to support them.

Dian wrote:

March 19, 2008 2:13 PM

What happened to the DOC about the Poppies in Afghanistan discussion group?
I was waiting to see it because I had a lot to say about that!
Anyone know where to find it?
Thanks.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sorry, we're not planning on having a discussion for that one.

Dave S wrote:

March 20, 2008 10:15 AM

I'd like to comment further on the need for the US to continue to be involved in a war (any war really).
Sure you've got your common reasons for the US to go to war such as OIL, the lucrative contracts to rebuild but something that most don't think of is the fact that they can use fear as a weapon against their own people in order to sway political decisions to fit with their agenda. For instance, would they have ever been able to pass the PATRIOT ACT if the country wasn't so terrified? I hope you all realize that soon the PATRIOT act will be ratified to include a stipulation that makes it illegal to read the PATRIOT act.

Trust me, it won't stop there. PsyOps, are already taking place in the US, with the intention of preparing the US public to accept a full domestic military takeover. Checkpoints will be setup at major highways, where you will be forced to prove your identity and that they've got no reason to arrest you. Dissent will be the main reason people will be arrested. All of this would not be possible if the public were not willing to give up freedoms for safety, as they are told to do during a time of war.

If this war continues, expect to see more politics of fear, whether its from the republicans or democrats. They all have the same agenda, and its to control the minds of the masses. 1984 has come and gone but the ideas from that important book are trying to be realized.

Barb wrote:

March 20, 2008 2:14 PM

There is "no end in sight." Don't be surprised when you see the shock and awe of bombs in Iran before Bush "the Commander-in-Grief" leaves office. The current US govt will not stop until the middle east is completely annihilated or the "end times occurs" whichever comes first.

The previous writer is correct the Bush neo-cons used "fear" - interesting it was one of the same tactics used by Hitler. Tell lies and scare the daylights out of people and they will do anything their government says. Oh and keep invoking 9/11.

160 people arrested in "peace protests" is this a free society? I don't think so! If you're in power and if you disagree with the current political goons you get fired or outed. The whole scheme is to get rid of the Arabs so Israel/USA can control the middle east.

Israel has "secret" nuclear weapons and won't abide by UN rules. How come they can get away with it? Why would it surprise anyone that other small nations on the US hit list would want to have nukes too.

The US government is arrogant, self-serving and hypocritical. They want to rule the world. I reckon if there are 6 billion people in the world and they are only 350 million they haven't got a chance. At least I hope they don't. I encourage everyone who wants to know the truth to check out www.antiwar.com, especially read articles by Prof Juan Cole.

Anonymous wrote:

March 22, 2008 2:01 AM

All of you people are blinded by your anti-American ideologies. You need to put down your Chomsky and start looking at the dangers in this world. The international community supported using force against Saddam for violating UN Security Council resolutions, on the grounds that he removed UN weapons inspectors, in violation of his terms of surrender. For that alone, an invasion was permissible.

You people cannot get over that a country like the US actually implemented those resolutions. Countries like France, China and Russia did not want Saddam ousted because they benefitted from Oil for Food contracts. This was not a problem of international law as there was plenty of UN justification for removing Saddam. This was a question of lack of will from international powers to finally deal with Saddam, or they were benefitting from having him in power.

Your blind and stupid anti-American narrative can only get you so far.

Hajduk wrote:

June 23, 2008 12:09 AM

I just finished watching this doc. A vary good piece of work by the CBC. GWB and his admin. are a bunch of incompetent idiots who went into this war without a real clue as to what they were going to do. The end result being that a great many -- perhaps even million --- people lost their lives for nothing. And in the process have made the world a much more dangerous place for us and probably a few generations to come.

Lorne Hilliard wrote:

June 23, 2008 12:12 AM

After watcing this doc, I can easily understand the hatred for America and the reasons why one would join an insurgent group.When oh When are we to put these people on trial for Crimes against Humanity? When we finally awake and mutually invade them! Just think of the secrets the world would discover that this country has perpetrated for over 40 years of direct fascism

Aaron Blanche wrote:

June 23, 2008 12:17 AM

This was a very well constructed, well thought out doc. Much praise to the director and producers.

It hit the nail on the head for filling in all the gaps, and bringing u the questions and issues we all as citizens had in mind.

François Privé wrote:

June 23, 2008 12:32 AM

What will the U.S. do with all the radio active waste they have poured into Iraq?

Somebody should ask to Barak Obama, John McCain and all the Americans if they intend to clean the Depleted uranium they bombed Iraq with before leaving the country. Who pays for cleaning all this carcinogenic and teratogenic uranium?

To know what I mean, look at one of the following videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCmthsTEGA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRIa0_ah8sI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2NHfoC2pc

How long will it take before journalists can walk across Bagdad and all Iraq with Geiger counters to measure the radio activity of each ruin, every building and every street?

François Privé


Que feront les USA des déchets radio actifs qu’ils ont répandu en Irak?

Il faudrait demander à Barak Obama, John McCain et aux Américains si ils ont l’intention de nettoyer l’Uranium appauvri dont ils ont bombardé l’Irak avant de quitter le pays. Qui paye pour le nettoyage de tout cet uranium cancérigène et tératogène?

Pour savoir de quoi je parle, regardez l’une des vidéos suivantes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCmthsTEGA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRIa0_ah8sI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2NHfoC2pc

Combien de temps faudra-t-il attendre avant que des journalistes puissent marcher dans toute la ville de Bagdad avec des compteurs Geiger pour mesurer la radio activité de chaque ruine, de chaque édifice et de chaque rue?

François Privé

http://cangrejoconnection.blogspot.com/

Deborah wrote:

June 23, 2008 12:41 AM

I can certainly see why this doc was entitled "No End In Sight" - did the USA disband the only support Iraq would have when insurgencies revolted after Saddam Hussein was over-thrown? One-half million Iraq soldiers - who like Canadian soldiers are always available for in-house disasters - there designation to protect their country - GONE, their rank taken away. After watching this doc USA took steps I believe to STAY in Iraq (and area), however, the reasons WHY they went in are still baffling.

Ornella wrote:

June 23, 2008 1:03 AM

WOW. since the war started i never like the united states. now i simply detest them . a more corrupt government does'nt exist: they go around the world destroying billions of people's lives all for profit and they leave their own citizens in the darkest of dark. with Irak it was vengeance and profit, for Darfur and Zimbabwe its lack of profit (oil). I feel so angry but the fact that the desaster in Irak was perfectly organised by less than 5 clueless people gives me hope that maybe I can do difference if I put my mind into it.
Americans, please get out of your nutshell and react!!!!!!

Subir Guin wrote:

June 23, 2008 1:08 AM

Evidently this brilliant documentarywas shown tonight June22 - but not for the first time.

It is astonishingly candid about the obvious incompetence , arrogance and refusal to look reality in the eye that has enabled our leaders to abuse the resources we have willingly granted them. The mainstream media have helped to keep the general public blissfully uninformed about the folly that continues to bring chaos and misery to people in Iraq and other battle-zones across the globe.

What is perhaps worse si the fact that there are some among us who still regard documentaries of hhis nature as anti-American propaganda!!

Keep up the wonderful work you do to keep us better informed! = SG

KG from US wrote:

June 23, 2008 1:37 AM

Keeping oil flowing from the middle east is a matter of national security for the US and Canada (your welcome).

I see all the comments about the war just being all about oil. If all you lefties really believe the US invaded to steal the oil - why is the price of oil at record highs? You can't have it both ways. Either the US went in to steal the oil or the war is causing the high prices. Which is it?
You won't answer and can't explain it because it's simply a case of blaming Bush for everything wrong in the world.
According to you Bush-haters - it was the war-mongering Bush that personally sank the Lusitanian just so the US could join in WW I

Wasan wrote:

June 23, 2008 1:41 AM

I being a Iraqi Catholic born there and was there in the Golf War and being a little kid just 4, can remember everything. i believe that what is happening to Iraq is close to the Holocaust, cause people are dieing for no reason, what good has out? I feel that Bush Administrative felt they needed to do something after 911 and took out on Iraqi. Iraq had nothing to do the Bin Ladan and there were no weapons and Bush still went in, i believe it was just for the oil, it shows that in the documentary it was the only thing they protected. thank god i have no family there now, but it doesn't matter people are dieing even non Iraqi's how many solders die? How many people are going to die, money spend on this war? I'm not just say this because i happen to be Iraqi. It's a scary thing that the US plays world police, the UN told them there no weapons and they still in.???? Oh of course people are going to seal anything they can, to sell so they can to get out of there. i believe that Canada should've helped them. I hate George Bush and i believe hes hasn't done ANY good, and SHOULD'VE gone to find Bin Laden.

Mary N. wrote:

June 23, 2008 2:42 AM

I have waited the whole week for this documentary after seeing a preview and I am so shaken and so enraged and so ...powerless that the only thing I can do is to write here a few words at 2 a.m. June 23, 2008.

I’ve seen many documentaries and read many books in the attempt and hope to find the TRUTH. This documentary is one of the best I’ve ever seen. Thank you CBC for making this possible along with so many other shows that I’m enjoying. I am sure that a rerun would be much appreciated by many of your viewers and by others who missed this occasion.

About the content of the film what can I say?
What was to be expected after the November 2000 elections in USA? If a bunch of thieves and profiteers were allowed to steel the elections and to form the government and this went unchallenged by any real power, how could anything be a surprise?
I’m sad, sad, sad. And I don’t see any light any time soon.
In a few months Bush and his gang will be all “honorably” discharged no matter what other atrocities might happen, in 30 years from now all will be dead anyway, but the consequences of these last 8 years will last forever. Everywhere.
And for what?

Ashley wrote:

June 23, 2008 3:12 AM

President Bush's entire presidency in general and the Iraq war in particular are a joke. What we have lost in this "humour" is the fact that millions of people are suffering in Iraq as a result of those many failures of the Bush administration that we poke fun at on a daily basis. It is absolutely disgusting how much suffering the invasion and "occupation" of Iraq has created yet this is not something that we ever hear about in our media. Thank-you for airing this sobering documentary; I hope to see it again soon!

Brad wrote:

June 23, 2008 3:12 AM

Anti-american rants aside, the US is stuck there and there no easy way out for them. The US did act on a UN resolution to oust the Iraqi leadership. However, if the Bush Administration is guilty of anything, it's acting with far too much conviction in regard to UN resolutions. What was the intention was to clear out Saddam's regime and pave the way for a governing UN body and peacekeepers. When that did not arrive (because Iraq had fallen into chaos and civil war) the US was caught there. And, no, the US could not get up and leave because because that would leave the door open from Iran to draw Shia Iraq into their orbit. Imagine the bloodbath if that happened. In the end, the solution remains that there must be a massive international effort to stabilize Iraq, including pan-muslim involvement in reconstructing Iraq, and a greater effort on the part of the international community to isolate Iran. Otherwise, the rest of the world should be thankful that the US is willing to do the dirty work. But how long is the rest of the world willing to wait? The US cannot endure in the region forever.

Wayne wrote:

June 23, 2008 11:26 AM

And the only place the USA guarded after the fall of IRAQ was the Ministry Of Oil ..kinda let's you know what Bush & his Gang had on their minds !!!

Je wrote:

June 23, 2008 11:40 AM

I've always enjoyed watching your documentary. Thanks guys.

I hope more american can watch this documentary and realize what their goverment's been done in Iraq. We are talking about so many lost of innocent lives in Iraq. I love American but I am losing my faith about their future.

KG from US wrote:

June 23, 2008 5:40 PM

WOW - what a left-wing mouth piece CBC has proven to be - just as I thought. I knew you would not publish my comments. As expected CBC is censoring all comments that express a differing opinion than the propaganda spouted in this so called documentary. This is proof positive that you have a left wing agenda and are not interested in providing news. Your only interest is to promote your political agenda.

Typical of the far-left: preach deversity and free speach, call conservatives facists then censor comments you don't agree with. Your so afraid of an opposing opinion you suppress posts that you dont agree with. Whats next burning books? you should be ashamed.

Adrian Labrosse wrote:

June 23, 2008 6:05 PM

I don't know if I would have the courage to risk my neck & head, like protesters did in the 60s, marching against the VietNam war. That is what the American people should be doing, though it probably would not change anything. Truly, what they need is a revolution to oust the war criminals who stole their democracy after WW2. Only the American people can do it & we in Canada had better be on guard to prevent it from happening here.

G. Graff wrote:

June 23, 2008 10:42 PM

I watched last night, and have been blown away all day. The widespread level of incompetence at the civilian level within the Bush administration is incomprehensible. What those abject amateurs attempted in Iraq was nothing less than a Community Playhouse attempting to host the Oscars - only this debacle deals with real human life, the global economy and the future of mankind as we know it.

What a bunch of ignorant, self-serving foreign policy neophytes.

Amateur Hour at the Bijou !

Steve T. wrote:

June 24, 2008 1:33 AM

Wow: It looks like the States really screwed that up. What do you expect from a bunch of political idiots? Just think about the regular Joe over ther who just wants to raise a family. I'm sure he will not forget or forgive, and some other regular Joe somewhere in the world will pay for these atrosites. I love how the real die hards say it is to make the world safer. Ha Ha Ha Thanks alot. What are they going to do when they go bankrupt next year, and places with real crazies decide to take their billions of dollar worth of oil and start building nasty things for us. Hey Bozo; The price of oil has increased in the world because the customer base has increased with China and India. There is also one less oil producer in the world, Iraq. The price is also being driven up by global speculators. Some of the best people in the world I've met are Americans; but this administration in no less than Nazi. They have even betrayed their ownyoung men and women who are heros in every sense of the word. What reason do they have to be there? They''ll pull out like they did in Vietnam and leave an absolute genocide behind. What a shame; from the worlds greatest leader to the worlds biggest Bully. PS If they go into Iran....Stock up on groceries.

Ornella N. wrote:

June 24, 2008 2:47 AM

response to KG from US:

I will answer. If you read all those comments you will realise that everybody agrees Bush went to war not only for oil profit but also for daddy's revenge and the all american belief that U.S. knows best. With that in mind nobody i believe is saying that bush is responsible for every thing bad in the world but since he seems intent on proving that he can fix it single handedly, why not blame him?

Isn't an american who said that with great power comes great responsability?

The fact is, there is always two side to a story. One sid e is what the americans have been led to believe and the other is what the doc is saying. I can thus understand how any body can be stuck on the first side but fortunately I and many people who commented have come from your side(the first) and taken position on the other one.
The world is not separated in pro-bush and anti-bush it is grayer than that. This docs certainly give a lot of point to the anti-Bush: He goes in Irak promising freedom for its people but instead give them a taste of hell on earth.
I guess we all miss understood: when he said people maybe he meant his business and political chums and the dark manupilative side.


I agree with Brad. the U.S. messed up big time and the rest of the capable world should step in and try to limit the damage as best as they can.

With that should come a trial to prosecute all those people involved in the poorest decision making in of the century starting with Bush.

Maybe then I, as a citizen of this world, will be able to sleep at night.

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