CBCnews
Story Tools: EMAIL | PRINT | Text Size: S M L XL | REPORT TYPO | SEND YOUR FEEDBACK | Bookmark and Share

This story contains disturbing details

Greyhound bus killer found not criminally responsible

Last Updated: Thursday, March 5, 2009 | 10:56 AM CT

Tim McLean, 22, was on his way home to Winnipeg when he was slain on a Greyhound bus last July 30. Tim McLean, 22, was on his way home to Winnipeg when he was slain on a Greyhound bus last July 30. (Family photo)

Vince Li has been found not criminally responsible for the unprovoked killing and beheading of fellow passenger Timothy McLean on a Greyhound bus last summer.

Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench Judge John Scurfield said Thursday that Li, 40, could not be found guilty of murder and is not criminally responsible for the crime because he was mentally ill at the time of the killing.

"These grotesque acts are appalling... but are suggestive of a mental disorder," the judge said.

"He did not appreciate the act he committed was wrong."

Li had pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder. Psychiatric evidence at his trial suggested he is a schizophrenic who suffered a major psychotic episode last July 30 when he fatally stabbed McLean, 22, ate some of the body parts, and cut off McLean's head.

For five hours after the killing, Li wandered around on the bus, defiling the body while an RCMP tactical team waited to subdue him.

Rather than go to prison, Li will be kept in a secure psychiatric facility, most likely in Selkirk, Man.

McLean, a carnival worker, was returning home to Winnipeg on the bus from Edmonton. Listening to his iPod while sitting in the back row of Greyhound bus 1170, he gave Li a friendly greeting as the stranger sat down beside him.

Then, around 8:30 p.m. CT, when the bus was near Portage La Prairie, Man., Li pulled a buck knife from his side and began stabbing McLean — for no apparent reason, witnesses said. After passengers fled the bus, by then on the side of the Trans-Canada Highway, Li was barricaded inside the vehicle.

During the stabbing, Li was heard to say, "get emergency." During the five-hour standoff, he walked around the bus carrying the severed head in one hand, the knife in the other. At one point, he threw McLean's head into the bus's stairwell.

When police finally subdued him, Li repeatedly said he was sorry but could not say what he was sorry for, officers said. He told police he had changed his name to Vince Day. And he said, "I'm guilty, please kill me."

Psychiatrists testified Li was schizophrenic and suffering a major psychotic episode at the time of the killing.

Li heard voices from God telling him that McLean was an evil threat that needed to be eliminated, the psychiatrists said. Even after the killing, Li believed McLean might come back to life and threaten him. The psychiatrists testified Li fit the criteria for someone who was not criminally responsible for their actions due to mental illness.

That means he will be sent to a provincial psychiatric facility rather than to prison. He comes under the jurisdiction of Manitoba's provincial review board, which will decide whether he poses a risk to the public. The review board has the power to keep Li locked up indefinitely or, if he is no longer considered a risk, discharge him.

In his written ruling, the judge said those who are profoundly ill do not have the mental capacity to intentionally commit a crime. "It is clear that since the 19th century the law has distinguished between those persons who commit criminal acts because of a mental disorder and sane persons," Scurfield said.

McLean's family had been lobbying for a change in the Criminal Code to prevent mentally ill killers from eventually being returned to the community. His mother, Carol de Delley, said after the ruling that she would do everything in her power to ensure Li is never released from secure custody.

"I think it's ridiculous that we've not only had to endure this procedure but we get to endure it every year again for the rest of Mr. Li's natural life," de Delley said, describing Li as dangerous. She urged Canadians to lobby politicians for changes to the Criminal Code.

"Bear in mind, this isn't going to be saving any of us, we've already had our loss," she said. "It's to save everybody else. And that's been put on us now. And we sure as hell didn't volunteer for that job, but it is ours now."

Li's lawyer, Gordon Bates, said after the ruling that his client has felt remorse and understands what has occurred. He said Li had no message for the McLean family on Thursday but that he has in the past expressed a wish to make amends and is looking forward to treatment of his illness.

  •  
Story Tools: EMAIL | PRINT | Text Size: S M L XL | REPORT TYPO | SEND YOUR FEEDBACK | Bookmark and Share
 

Related

Video

Marisa Dragani reports: Greyhound bus killer found not criminally responsible (Runs: 2:17)
Play: QuickTime »
Play: Real Media »
Marisa Dragani updates: Greyhound bus killer found not criminally responsible (Runs: 2:35)
Play: QuickTime »
Play: Real Media »
Muhammad Lila reports: Greyhound bus killer found not criminally responsible (Runs: 2:35)
Play: QuickTime »
Play: Real Media »

Manitoba Headlines

Winnipeg police target people sheltering runaways
Police in Winnipeg say they are concerned about the number of times they find people sheltering vulnerable runaways, instead of getting the children back to their families.
H1N1 vaccine runs out in Winnipeg
Swine flu vaccine clinics in Winnipeg ran out of the adjuvanted vaccine dose on Friday but officials say a new shipment is expected to arrive early next week. In the meantime, the health region is allowing certain people to get the shot using the unadjuvanted dose.
Police seize $1.4M worth of marijuana
A pair of marijuana grow-ops have been uncovered by Winnipeg police, resulting in the seizure of more than $1.4 million worth of marijuana.
Man, 55, charged with attempted murder
A 55-year-old man has been charged with attempted murder in connection with a 17-hour standoff in northern Manitoba.
Trash and recycling bins blown apart in Winnipeg
No one was hurt, but there was considerable damage to a couple of containers in Winnipeg's Grant Park area where two explosive devices were detonated in recent days.

Canada Headlines

Flood forces Vancouver Island evacuations Video
Dozens of homes have water "up to the doorknobs" and others are under evacuation alert after heavy rain combined with high tides to flood low-lying parts of Duncan, B.C., an hour's drive north of Victoria.
Ottawa will stay course on stimulus: Flaherty Video
Rather than turning off the stimulus taps or pouring more fuel on the economic fire, Ottawa will stand pat with the $61 billion in stimulus spending announced in January, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty says.
CAW, Johnson Controls reach tentative deal Video
After a successful late-night bargaining session, the Canadian Auto Workers Union and management at Johnson Controls have reached a tentative agreement on a new three-year labour deal.
Sponsorship scandal nets man 2 years in prison
Gilles-Andre Gosselin, a key player in the federal sponsorship scandal, pleaded guilty Friday to several charges related to fraud totalling $655,276.
Toronto's ROM crystal on ugliest buildings list
A conspicuous addition to Toronto's Royal Ontario Museum has made it onto a toursim website's list of the "World's Top 10 Ugly Buildings."

People who read this also read …

Top CBCNews.ca Headlines

Headlines

Ottawa will stay course on stimulus: Flaherty Video
Rather than turning off the stimulus taps or pouring more fuel on the economic fire, Ottawa will stand pat with the $61 billion in stimulus spending announced in January, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty says.
Flood forces Vancouver Island evacuations Video
Dozens of homes have water "up to the doorknobs" and others are under evacuation alert after heavy rain combined with high tides to flood low-lying parts of Duncan, B.C., an hour's drive north of Victoria.
Colvin's job safe despite Afghan torture testimony Video
The Conservatives will not try to remove Richard Colvin from his post in Washington, Defence Minister Peter MacKay says, even though they question the credibility of his testimony on Afghan prisoners.
UN human rights committee votes to censure Iran Video
A United Nations committee has approved a Canadian-led resolution urging Iran to stop harassing political opponents in the wake of its disputed presidential elections.
Hundreds rescued from U.K. flooding Video
Raging floods engulfed northern England's picturesque Lake District on Friday following the heaviest rainfall ever recorded in Britain. A police officer died and hundreds of people were forced to evacuate.